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mo_ntresor
Jun 13, 2013, 11:45:58 AM6/13/13
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-13/college-serial-rapists-evade-antiquated-campus-responses.html
"At least one-quarter of women are sexually assaulted during their college
years, according to studies published as recently as 2000 by the U.S.
Justice Department and crime researchers. About 27 percent of college
women are raped or suffer attempted rape, according to researchers at
Wayne State University."
before we challenge the research capabilities of the justice department
and wayne state (or any other state for that matter), let's explore the
specific case referenced:
"Mee had been at Occidental College (78100MF) about two weeks in 2009 when
she went to a party and became intoxicated. A male student separated her
from her friends, led her back to her room and raped her, she said."
she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
"separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
research findings:
27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
mo_ntresor
"At least one-quarter of women are sexually assaulted during their college
years, according to studies published as recently as 2000 by the U.S.
Justice Department and crime researchers. About 27 percent of college
women are raped or suffer attempted rape, according to researchers at
Wayne State University."
before we challenge the research capabilities of the justice department
and wayne state (or any other state for that matter), let's explore the
specific case referenced:
"Mee had been at Occidental College (78100MF) about two weeks in 2009 when
she went to a party and became intoxicated. A male student separated her
from her friends, led her back to her room and raped her, she said."
she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
"separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
research findings:
27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
mo_ntresor
brewmaster
Jun 13, 2013, 12:13:10 PM6/13/13
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morning...
>
> mo_ntresor
brattt
Jun 13, 2013, 12:42:47 PM6/13/13
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Nothing like ruining a young man's life.
ChrisRobin
Jun 13, 2013, 12:52:29 PM6/13/13
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asshole, just for a few hours?
mo_ntresor
Jun 13, 2013, 2:00:45 PM6/13/13
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On Jun 13 2013 10:13 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> > 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
>
> 100% of college women get drunk and have sex...27% regret it in the
> morning...
sounds like it's a function of the guy. some girls wake up, are sure they
> > 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
>
> 100% of college women get drunk and have sex...27% regret it in the
> morning...
regret having sex, then see who's with them and change their minds.
mo_ntresor
mo_ntresor
Jun 13, 2013, 1:58:52 PM6/13/13
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On Jun 13 2013 10:52 AM, ChrisRobin wrote:
> I know it goes against your basic nature, but can you try not to be an
> asshole, just for a few hours?
there was a girl at my school who was "raped". she was quite promiscuous,
> I know it goes against your basic nature, but can you try not to be an
> asshole, just for a few hours?
got loaded one night, got drilled by some frat idiot in front of his
friends -- just him. she decided later the next week she was "raped", so
complained to the administration. the accused and several viewers were
expelled. does this sound right to you?
mo_ntresor
ChrisRobin
Jun 13, 2013, 3:59:38 PM6/13/13
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On Jun 13 2013 1:58 PM, mo_ntresor wrote:
> there was a girl at my school who was "raped". she was quite promiscuous,
> got loaded one night, got drilled by some frat idiot in front of his
> friends -- just him. she decided later the next week she was "raped", so
> complained to the administration. the accused and several viewers were
> expelled. does this sound right to you?
No, it doesn't. This is not an example of a common college rape
> there was a girl at my school who was "raped". she was quite promiscuous,
> got loaded one night, got drilled by some frat idiot in front of his
> friends -- just him. she decided later the next week she was "raped", so
> complained to the administration. the accused and several viewers were
> expelled. does this sound right to you?
experience. Usually the perpetrators are good friends or even boyfriends
of the victim, and most victims never report the crimes to police or
school administrators. I'd post some common sense statistics to back this
up, but I'd rather not further stimulate your unfulfilled frat boy
fantasies.
mo_ntresor
Jun 13, 2013, 4:09:26 PM6/13/13
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mo_ntresor
ChrisRobin
Jun 13, 2013, 5:25:43 PM6/13/13
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risky biz
Jun 13, 2013, 6:59:14 PM6/13/13
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Yuk, yuk, yuk.
Bill Vanek
Jun 13, 2013, 11:41:15 PM6/13/13
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definition.
O-PGManager
Jun 13, 2013, 11:38:06 PM6/13/13
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On Jun 13 2013 11:45 AM, mo_ntresor wrote:
>
>
suffers from selection error in who responds to the survey. That doesn't
mean it's not a real issue. It certainly is. Whatever the number is,
it's way higher than it should be.
Opie G. Manager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator Emeritus (2009-2011)
Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 12:08:05 AM6/14/13
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"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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<...>
> 100% of college women get raped if you go by Catherine McKinnon's
> definition.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mackinnon.asp
Jim
Bill Vanek
Jun 14, 2013, 12:42:11 AM6/14/13
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http://www.menweb.org/urbanleg.htm
And don't forget to click the link towards the bottom for further
enlightenment.
Snopes. You've got to be kidding me. Not the least bit politicized. No
siree.
Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 1:12:56 AM6/14/13
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"No direct quote, but a position I can claim if I parse
her co-authored words like a he-man woman-hating weasel."
Nowhere does MacKinnon say *OR* imply all sex is rape. Period.
Dworkin, apart from MacKinnon, might have (and ISTR did), but she hasn't
been relevant for 20 years if she ever was.
You get this shit from soc.men, right? The place divorced loserbois go to
get comfort from other divorced loserbois who were all victimized by the
EEEEEEEVil womenfolk with their confounding ladyparts?
Interesting too that the "Urban Legends" (not Snopes) author mentioned
doesn't find this misogynistic crank's "analysis" credible enough to change
the web page.
Jim
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:08:05 -0700, "Clave"
> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>news:354lr85t0coopql22...@4ax.com...
>>
>><...>
>>
>>> 100% of college women get raped if you go by Catherine McKinnon's
>>> definition.
>>
>>Ignorant horseshit.
>>
>>http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mackinnon.asp
>
> Sorry, but yours is the ignorant horse shit:
> http://www.menweb.org/urbanleg.htm
Menweb? Bert Fucking Hoff??? Are you fucking kidding me?
> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>news:354lr85t0coopql22...@4ax.com...
>>
>><...>
>>
>>> 100% of college women get raped if you go by Catherine McKinnon's
>>> definition.
>>
>>Ignorant horseshit.
>>
>>http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mackinnon.asp
>
> Sorry, but yours is the ignorant horse shit:
> http://www.menweb.org/urbanleg.htm
"No direct quote, but a position I can claim if I parse
her co-authored words like a he-man woman-hating weasel."
Nowhere does MacKinnon say *OR* imply all sex is rape. Period.
Dworkin, apart from MacKinnon, might have (and ISTR did), but she hasn't
been relevant for 20 years if she ever was.
You get this shit from soc.men, right? The place divorced loserbois go to
get comfort from other divorced loserbois who were all victimized by the
EEEEEEEVil womenfolk with their confounding ladyparts?
Interesting too that the "Urban Legends" (not Snopes) author mentioned
doesn't find this misogynistic crank's "analysis" credible enough to change
the web page.
Jim
da pickle
Jun 14, 2013, 8:50:18 AM6/14/13
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Bill Vanek
Jun 14, 2013, 9:47:21 AM6/14/13
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:12:56 -0700, "Clave"
<ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
>Menweb? Bert Fucking Hoff??? Are you fucking kidding me?
Right. I should go to unimpeachable sources like snopes, or maybe
<ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
>Menweb? Bert Fucking Hoff??? Are you fucking kidding me?
factcheck. They are so unbiased that no one, and I mean no one, can
possibly dispute anything they say. They are the final arbiters of...
The Truth.
Bill Vanek
Jun 14, 2013, 9:49:11 AM6/14/13
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:50:18 -0500, da pickle
<jcpi...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>Further proof, if any was needed, that no good comes from claving.
He's kind of like Jerry, except that you don't have to feel sorry for
<jcpi...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>Further proof, if any was needed, that no good comes from claving.
him. So, what the hell.
Travel A
Jun 14, 2013, 10:43:25 AM6/14/13
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What percentage are left wing lesbians, chomping at the bit to claim
they were raped. Then high-fiving their lesbian roommates.
27%, lol, how many are prosecuted? There would be nothing but rape
trials all over the country if these stats were even anywhere near being
of legitimate rapes.
Just check the court records convictions in all the vast and various
jurisdictions of these schools for your poll. That's your real poll.
Totally, and absolutely bogus poll.
With this dumb-assed poll, all they're doing is asking the question, and
the responses are random and anonymous.
How about the "woman scorned" aspect. How many had boyfriends for say
two years and the boyfriend dumped them. How many, given an anonymous
ballot, wouldn't jump at the opportunity to claim thery were raped for
two years by "this bastard" they knew (chortle).
they were raped. Then high-fiving their lesbian roommates.
27%, lol, how many are prosecuted? There would be nothing but rape
trials all over the country if these stats were even anywhere near being
of legitimate rapes.
Just check the court records convictions in all the vast and various
jurisdictions of these schools for your poll. That's your real poll.
Totally, and absolutely bogus poll.
With this dumb-assed poll, all they're doing is asking the question, and
the responses are random and anonymous.
How about the "woman scorned" aspect. How many had boyfriends for say
two years and the boyfriend dumped them. How many, given an anonymous
ballot, wouldn't jump at the opportunity to claim thery were raped for
two years by "this bastard" they knew (chortle).
Dave the Clueless
Jun 14, 2013, 12:29:58 PM6/14/13
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On Jun 13 2013 12:45 PM, mo_ntresor wrote:
> she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
> "separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
> research findings:
>
> 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
>
> mo_ntresor
Roughly 100% of college "women" present themselves as consequence-free cum
> she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
> "separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
> research findings:
>
> 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
>
> mo_ntresor
dumps. If they feel used after some drunken frat boy pumps a load of spunk
in them and wanders off, welll.... duh.
-------
JerryFOREX the retard thinks "Cornel Ronald West (born June 2, 1953) is an
American philosopher, academic, activist, author and prominent member of
the Democratic Socialists of America" is a right-winger! LOL! HAHAHAHAH!
What a moron!!!
Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 1:14:07 PM6/14/13
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No, you should go to the sources you know agree with you, regardless of how
biased they've been proven, over and over and over.
They're really all you have.
Jim
biased they've been proven, over and over and over.
They're really all you have.
Jim
Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 1:21:04 PM6/14/13
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> He's kind of like Jerry, except that you don't have to feel sorry for
> him. So, what the hell.
So show me where she says all sex is rape. IN HER WORDS.
Should be easy if she said it.
Jim
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:50:18 -0500, da pickle
> <jcpi...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Further proof, if any was needed, that no good comes from claving.
ie kicking pickle's ass.
> <jcpi...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Further proof, if any was needed, that no good comes from claving.
> He's kind of like Jerry, except that you don't have to feel sorry for
> him. So, what the hell.
Should be easy if she said it.
Jim
Bill Vanek
Jun 14, 2013, 9:18:53 PM6/14/13
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>Should be easy if she said it.
Bill Vanek
Jun 14, 2013, 9:19:47 PM6/14/13
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Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 9:43:10 PM6/14/13
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Jim
definition.
"100% of college women get raped if you go by
Catherine McKinnon's definition"
Are you denying you said that?
Catherine McKinnon's definition"
Jim
definition.
Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 9:44:44 PM6/14/13
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In this particular case, yes.
Jim
Jim
Edward A. Falk
Jun 14, 2013, 10:16:18 PM6/14/13
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In article <6j7lr8tgl93huu2go...@4ax.com>,
Snopes says she never said it.
Menweb says that Daphne Patai & Noretta Koertge once implied she did
Nobody has ever *actually* found evidence she said it.
Personal data point: When I was in college, I knew the president of the
local N.O.W. chapter. She'd heard the "all sex is rape" trope from a
fellow feminist, but a) it was nobody anybody had ever heard of, and b)
my friend thought it was a rather "out there" opinion and definitely
not in line with the mainstream of feminist thinking.
--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
Bill Vanek <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>Sorry, but yours is the ignorant horse shit:
>http://www.menweb.org/urbanleg.htm
Executive summary:
>
>Sorry, but yours is the ignorant horse shit:
>http://www.menweb.org/urbanleg.htm
Snopes says she never said it.
Menweb says that Daphne Patai & Noretta Koertge once implied she did
Nobody has ever *actually* found evidence she said it.
Personal data point: When I was in college, I knew the president of the
local N.O.W. chapter. She'd heard the "all sex is rape" trope from a
fellow feminist, but a) it was nobody anybody had ever heard of, and b)
my friend thought it was a rather "out there" opinion and definitely
not in line with the mainstream of feminist thinking.
--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
Bill Vanek
Jun 14, 2013, 10:34:40 PM6/14/13
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:43:10 -0700, "Clave"
no one can paraphrase MacKinnon. Am I following along properly?
<ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:h6gnr8lt7ja33jp5u...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:21:04 -0700, "Clave"
>> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>news:po7mr8ddqnbt447no...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:50:18 -0500, da pickle
>>>> <jcpi...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Further proof, if any was needed, that no good comes from claving.
>>>
>>>ie kicking pickle's ass.
>>>
>>>
>>>> He's kind of like Jerry, except that you don't have to feel sorry for
>>>> him. So, what the hell.
>>>
>>>So show me where she says all sex is rape. IN HER WORDS.
>>
>> Show me where I said she said those exact words.
>>
>>>Should be easy if she said it.
>>
>> Ditto, if I said it.
>
> "100% of college women get raped if you go by
> Catherine McKinnon's definition"
>
>Are you denying you said that?
I see. So you can paraphrase what I said into "all sex is rape", but
>
>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:h6gnr8lt7ja33jp5u...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:21:04 -0700, "Clave"
>> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>news:po7mr8ddqnbt447no...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:50:18 -0500, da pickle
>>>> <jcpi...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Further proof, if any was needed, that no good comes from claving.
>>>
>>>ie kicking pickle's ass.
>>>
>>>
>>>> He's kind of like Jerry, except that you don't have to feel sorry for
>>>> him. So, what the hell.
>>>
>>>So show me where she says all sex is rape. IN HER WORDS.
>>
>> Show me where I said she said those exact words.
>>
>>>Should be easy if she said it.
>>
>> Ditto, if I said it.
>
> "100% of college women get raped if you go by
> Catherine McKinnon's definition"
>
>Are you denying you said that?
no one can paraphrase MacKinnon. Am I following along properly?
Bill Vanek
Jun 14, 2013, 10:35:16 PM6/14/13
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:44:44 -0700, "Clave"
<ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:o8gnr813gtj4fh7ci...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:14:07 -0700, "Clave"
>> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>news:8i7mr8557hg6oq55t...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:12:56 -0700, "Clave"
>>>> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Menweb? Bert Fucking Hoff??? Are you fucking kidding me?
>>>>
>>>> Right. I should go to unimpeachable sources like snopes, or maybe
>>>> factcheck. They are so unbiased that no one, and I mean no one, can
>>>> possibly dispute anything they say. They are the final arbiters of...
>>>> The Truth.
>>>
>>>No, you should go to the sources you know agree with you, regardless of
>>>how
>>>biased they've been proven, over and over and over.
>>
>> So Snopes is unbiased? Is that what you're claiming?
>
>In this particular case, yes.
>
>Jim
Who gets to decide?
>
>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:o8gnr813gtj4fh7ci...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:14:07 -0700, "Clave"
>> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>news:8i7mr8557hg6oq55t...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:12:56 -0700, "Clave"
>>>> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Menweb? Bert Fucking Hoff??? Are you fucking kidding me?
>>>>
>>>> Right. I should go to unimpeachable sources like snopes, or maybe
>>>> factcheck. They are so unbiased that no one, and I mean no one, can
>>>> possibly dispute anything they say. They are the final arbiters of...
>>>> The Truth.
>>>
>>>No, you should go to the sources you know agree with you, regardless of
>>>how
>>>biased they've been proven, over and over and over.
>>
>> So Snopes is unbiased? Is that what you're claiming?
>
>In this particular case, yes.
>
>Jim
Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 10:36:25 PM6/14/13
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> I see. So you can paraphrase what I said into "all sex is rape"...
Tell me what semantic difference exists in your mind.
Jim
Tell me what semantic difference exists in your mind.
Jim
Bill Vanek
Jun 14, 2013, 10:38:06 PM6/14/13
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:16:18 +0000 (UTC), fa...@rahul.net (Edward A.
Falk) wrote:
>In article <6j7lr8tgl93huu2go...@4ax.com>,
>Bill Vanek <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>Sorry, but yours is the ignorant horse shit:
>>http://www.menweb.org/urbanleg.htm
>
>Executive summary:
>
>Snopes says she never said it.
>
>Menweb says that Daphne Patai & Noretta Koertge once implied she did
>
>Nobody has ever *actually* found evidence she said it.
No one is claiming she said those exact words. And what those two
Falk) wrote:
>In article <6j7lr8tgl93huu2go...@4ax.com>,
>Bill Vanek <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>Sorry, but yours is the ignorant horse shit:
>>http://www.menweb.org/urbanleg.htm
>
>Executive summary:
>
>Snopes says she never said it.
>
>Menweb says that Daphne Patai & Noretta Koertge once implied she did
>
>Nobody has ever *actually* found evidence she said it.
authors are really saying is that MacKinnon's words imply the "quote".
Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 10:42:11 PM6/14/13
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You claim bias. Prove it.
Jim
Jim
Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 10:43:52 PM6/14/13
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So you're hanging your hat on what other people say she implied, not her
actual words or your own actual reasoning.
Jim
actual words or your own actual reasoning.
Jim
Travel
Jun 14, 2013, 11:19:52 PM6/14/13
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Clave
Jun 14, 2013, 11:37:32 PM6/14/13
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Jim
Bill Vanek
Jun 15, 2013, 3:19:45 AM6/15/13
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Bill Vanek
Jun 15, 2013, 3:20:24 AM6/15/13
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:36:25 -0700, "Clave"
I think you would need to do the same, right?
Bill Vanek
Jun 15, 2013, 3:21:30 AM6/15/13
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Clave
Jun 15, 2013, 3:39:08 AM6/15/13
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I prove the negative? Surrender accepted.
Jim
Jim
Clave
Jun 15, 2013, 3:39:42 AM6/15/13
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You can't since none exists. Concession accepted.
Jim
Jim
Clave
Jun 15, 2013, 3:43:16 AM6/15/13
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You haven't added one original thought to the thread. Your "contributions"
are exactly as I characterized them.
Jim
--
I'm not defensive -- YOU'RE defensive.
-- Vanek
are exactly as I characterized them.
Jim
--
I'm not defensive -- YOU'RE defensive.
-- Vanek
Pepe Papon
Jun 15, 2013, 3:59:10 AM6/15/13
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:21:30 -0700, Bill Vanek <bilv...@invalid.com>
wrote:
--
Pepe Papon
wrote:
When you said:
>> No one is claiming she said those exact words. And what those two
>> authors are really saying is that MacKinnon's words imply the "quote".
HTH.
>> No one is claiming she said those exact words. And what those two
>> authors are really saying is that MacKinnon's words imply the "quote".
--
Pepe Papon
mo_ntresor
Jun 15, 2013, 10:03:03 AM6/15/13
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On Jun 14 2013 7:19 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
> >No, you should go to the sources you know agree with you, regardless of how
> >biased they've been proven, over and over and over.
>
> So Snopes is unbiased? Is that what you're claiming?
it is when it agrees with clam.
> >No, you should go to the sources you know agree with you, regardless of how
> >biased they've been proven, over and over and over.
>
> So Snopes is unbiased? Is that what you're claiming?
mo_ntresor
Bill Vanek
Jun 15, 2013, 12:26:21 PM6/15/13
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:43:16 -0700, "Clave"
Where did I claim to be doing anything other than pointing you to
others with some information you badly need? Do you think I'm going to
research this for you - someone who has no interest in learning
anything? You have never admitted you're wrong about anything, but
that's understandable. Like so many others of your ilk, you're not
here to discuss, just to win a debate no matter how wrong you might
be.
You write better than Jerry, but you're no more interesting.
others with some information you badly need? Do you think I'm going to
research this for you - someone who has no interest in learning
anything? You have never admitted you're wrong about anything, but
that's understandable. Like so many others of your ilk, you're not
here to discuss, just to win a debate no matter how wrong you might
be.
You write better than Jerry, but you're no more interesting.
Bill Vanek
Jun 15, 2013, 12:28:57 PM6/15/13
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:39:08 -0700, "Clave"
"Unbiased" is a negative? How about "honest", or "fair", or "neutral"?
Are those negative words too?
Are those negative words too?
Bill Vanek
Jun 15, 2013, 12:30:57 PM6/15/13
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:39:42 -0700, "Clave"
And I will accept your concession. I realize you didn't actually say
the words, "I, Clave, am 100% wrong", but there's really no semantic
difference in what you did say.
the words, "I, Clave, am 100% wrong", but there's really no semantic
difference in what you did say.
Clave
Jun 15, 2013, 9:21:38 PM6/15/13
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Jim
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:39:42 -0700, "Clave"
<...>
>>>>>>>Tell me what semantic difference exists in your mind.
>>>
>>>>>>>Tell me what semantic difference exists in your mind.
>>>
>>> I think you would need to do the same, right?
>>
>>You can't since none exists. Concession accepted.
>
>>
>>You can't since none exists. Concession accepted.
>
> And I will accept your concession. I realize you didn't actually say
> the words, "I, Clave, am 100% wrong", but there's really no semantic
> difference in what you did say.
IKYABWAI and cheap dodge noted.
> the words, "I, Clave, am 100% wrong", but there's really no semantic
> difference in what you did say.
Jim
Clave
Jun 15, 2013, 9:24:21 PM6/15/13
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>>You haven't added one original thought to the thread. Your
>>"contributions"
>>are exactly as I characterized them.
>
little lies, but I certainly don't.
Jim
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:43:16 -0700, "Clave"
> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
<...>
> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>You haven't added one original thought to the thread. Your
>>"contributions"
>>are exactly as I characterized them.
>
> Where did I claim to be doing anything other than pointing you to
> others with some information you badly need?
Maybe you need the He-Man Woman-Hater's Club chairman to tell you comforting
> others with some information you badly need?
little lies, but I certainly don't.
Jim
Bill Vanek
Jun 15, 2013, 9:32:27 PM6/15/13
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Clave
Jun 15, 2013, 9:50:39 PM6/15/13
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Sure thing, Beldin.
Time for you to beat your chest, declare victory and quit.
Jim
Time for you to beat your chest, declare victory and quit.
Jim
mo_ntresor
Jun 16, 2013, 8:40:24 AM6/16/13
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On Jun 15 2013 7:32 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
> You have become tedious. You have become very small.
become? LOL. when has he EVER been anything but?
> You have become tedious. You have become very small.
mo_ntresor
VegasJerry
Jun 16, 2013, 9:20:59 AM6/16/13
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.> You write better than Jerry, but you're no more interesting.
LOL @ you making it about the messenger because you can't address the message.
Poor loser.
Bill Vanek
Jun 16, 2013, 11:08:24 AM6/16/13
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 06:20:59 -0700 (PDT), VegasJerry <jer...@cox.net>
wrote:
Just answer the question.
wrote:
Bill Vanek
Jun 16, 2013, 11:09:03 AM6/16/13
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Clave
Jun 16, 2013, 2:14:31 PM6/16/13
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No surprise there -- neither of you learn terribly well having your noses
rubbed in your own ignorance.
Jim
rubbed in your own ignorance.
Jim
Dave the Clueless
Jun 17, 2013, 8:37:07 AM6/17/13
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-------
JerryFOREX the retard thinks "Cornel Ronald West (born June 2, 1953) is an
American philosopher, academic, activist, author and prominent member of
the Democratic Socialists of America" is a right-winger! LOL! HAHAHAHAH!
What a moron!!!
Edward A. Falk
Jun 17, 2013, 7:25:48 PM6/17/13
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In article <8oknr8dkukrnnuoau...@4ax.com>,
that implies it.
--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
Bill Vanek <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>No one is claiming she said those exact words. And what those two
>authors are really saying is that MacKinnon's words imply the "quote".
Then let them point out whatever it was that MacKinnon *did* say
>
>No one is claiming she said those exact words. And what those two
>authors are really saying is that MacKinnon's words imply the "quote".
that implies it.
--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
Bill Vanek
Jun 17, 2013, 9:43:21 PM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:25:48 +0000 (UTC), fa...@rahul.net (Edward A.
Falk) wrote:
>In article <8oknr8dkukrnnuoau...@4ax.com>,
>Bill Vanek <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>No one is claiming she said those exact words. And what those two
>>authors are really saying is that MacKinnon's words imply the "quote".
>
>Then let them point out whatever it was that MacKinnon *did* say
>that implies it.
They do.
Falk) wrote:
>In article <8oknr8dkukrnnuoau...@4ax.com>,
>Bill Vanek <bilv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>No one is claiming she said those exact words. And what those two
>>authors are really saying is that MacKinnon's words imply the "quote".
>
>Then let them point out whatever it was that MacKinnon *did* say
>that implies it.
Pepe Papon
Jun 18, 2013, 2:18:35 AM6/18/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:43:21 -0700, Bill Vanek <bilv...@invalid.com>
wrote:
Which is...?
--
Pepe Papon
wrote:
--
Pepe Papon
da pickle
Jun 18, 2013, 8:29:27 AM6/18/13
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The paraphrase was presented as a quote when first used and it was not a
quote and an apology was issued. However, her "idea" is aptly described
by the words, even if they were never spoken or written by her.
Go ahead and have the last word on the words.
Bill Vanek
Jun 18, 2013, 9:54:16 AM6/18/13
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number, but it might be easier for both of us if you just read it
yourself.
O-PGManager
Jun 30, 2013, 5:52:37 PM6/30/13
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On Jun 14 2013 12:29 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
> On Jun 13 2013 12:45 PM, mo_ntresor wrote:
>
> > she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
> > "separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
> > research findings:
> >
> > 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
> >
> > mo_ntresor
>
> Roughly 100% of college "women" present themselves as consequence-free cum
> dumps. If they feel used after some drunken frat boy pumps a load of spunk
> in them and wanders off, welll.... duh.
Why so much hatred for women?
>
> -------
> JerryFOREX the retard thinks "Cornel Ronald West (born June 2, 1953) is an
> American philosopher, academic, activist, author and prominent member of
> the Democratic Socialists of America" is a right-winger! LOL! HAHAHAHAH!
> What a moron!!!
Opie G. Manager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator Emeritus (2009-2011)
> On Jun 13 2013 12:45 PM, mo_ntresor wrote:
>
> > she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
> > "separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
> > research findings:
> >
> > 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
> >
> > mo_ntresor
>
> Roughly 100% of college "women" present themselves as consequence-free cum
> dumps. If they feel used after some drunken frat boy pumps a load of spunk
> in them and wanders off, welll.... duh.
Why so much hatred for women?
>
> -------
> JerryFOREX the retard thinks "Cornel Ronald West (born June 2, 1953) is an
> American philosopher, academic, activist, author and prominent member of
> the Democratic Socialists of America" is a right-winger! LOL! HAHAHAHAH!
> What a moron!!!
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator Emeritus (2009-2011)
Clave
Jun 30, 2013, 6:11:23 PM6/30/13
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"O-PGManager" <ad6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:5ul6aax...@news.ezprovider.com...
> On Jun 14 2013 12:29 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
>
>> On Jun 13 2013 12:45 PM, mo_ntresor wrote:
>>
>> > she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
>> > "separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
>> > research findings:
>> >
>> > 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
>> >
>> > mo_ntresor
>>
>> Roughly 100% of college "women" present themselves as consequence-free
>> cum
>> dumps. If they feel used after some drunken frat boy pumps a load of
>> spunk
>> in them and wanders off, welll.... duh.
>
> Why so much hatred for women?
Pretty obvious -- he never got any 20-year-old tail in his life.
>
>> On Jun 13 2013 12:45 PM, mo_ntresor wrote:
>>
>> > she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
>> > "separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
>> > research findings:
>> >
>> > 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
>> >
>> > mo_ntresor
>>
>> Roughly 100% of college "women" present themselves as consequence-free
>> cum
>> dumps. If they feel used after some drunken frat boy pumps a load of
>> spunk
>> in them and wanders off, welll.... duh.
>
> Why so much hatred for women?
Jim
Pepe Papon
Jul 1, 2013, 1:01:06 AM7/1/13
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On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 14:52:37 -0700, "O-PGManager"
<ad6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>On Jun 14 2013 12:29 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
>
>> On Jun 13 2013 12:45 PM, mo_ntresor wrote:
>>
>> > she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
>> > "separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
>> > research findings:
>> >
>> > 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
>> >
>> > mo_ntresor
>>
>> Roughly 100% of college "women" present themselves as consequence-free cum
>> dumps. If they feel used after some drunken frat boy pumps a load of spunk
>> in them and wanders off, welll.... duh.
>
>Why so much hatred for women?
Dave seems to pretty much hate everyone and everything.
<ad6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>On Jun 14 2013 12:29 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
>
>> On Jun 13 2013 12:45 PM, mo_ntresor wrote:
>>
>> > she "went" to a party and "became" intoxicated. the male student
>> > "separated" her from her friends and "raped" her. can we restate the
>> > research findings:
>> >
>> > 27% of college women get drunk, have sex, and regret it in the morning?
>> >
>> > mo_ntresor
>>
>> Roughly 100% of college "women" present themselves as consequence-free cum
>> dumps. If they feel used after some drunken frat boy pumps a load of spunk
>> in them and wanders off, welll.... duh.
>
>Why so much hatred for women?
--
Pepe Papon
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