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RussGe...@aol.com

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Jul 10, 2008, 10:35:53 PM7/10/08
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You get whoever you want to play me. The game will be 5 card stud NL.
It will be at a casino of my choice.

Sound familiar?

Did someone die and make you and your buddy dictator?

I already have stated I don't play on FT
100000000000000000000000000000 times.

Now if your buddy want to NEGOTIATE (do you understand the word)? This
means the following, he doesn't get to pick the game or the place to
play. It's a mutuel agreement. I'll tell you what I'll do. I will play
Russian roulette with your buddy for a million and take the first
shot. If he doesn't take the second, I win. Last one to take a shot
loses. Revolver only, no automatics:)

Russ Georgiev

www.pokermafia.com
www.pokerunchecked.com
www.russgerogiev.com

da pickle no spam

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Jul 10, 2008, 10:43:34 PM7/10/08
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On Jul 10, 7:35 pm, "RussGeorg...@aol.com" <RussGeorg...@aol.com>
wrote:

Sounds familiar. lol

FellKnight

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Jul 10, 2008, 10:45:55 PM7/10/08
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On Jul 10 2008 10:35 PM, RussGe...@aol.com wrote:

> Now if your buddy want to NEGOTIATE (do you understand the word)?

Irony, thy name is Russ.

Fell
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XaQ Morphy

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Jul 10, 2008, 10:57:27 PM7/10/08
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> You get whoever you want to play me. The game will be 5 card stud NL.
> It will be at a casino of my choice.

This won't happen for 2 reasons: 1) he's 20 years old and can't get in
most casinos, 2) we've already seen your famous backing down from Barry
Greenstein's challenge. This is an online challenge.

> Sound familiar?
>
> Did someone die and make you and your buddy dictator?

No, but we are offering the terms of a challenge. Listen, we know that no
matter what we say you're going to back down, so we're just going to show
RGP once again how ridiculous you can be.

> I already have stated I don't play on FT
> 100000000000000000000000000000 times.
>
> Now if your buddy want to NEGOTIATE (do you understand the word)? This
> means the following, he doesn't get to pick the game or the place to
> play. It's a mutuel agreement. I'll tell you what I'll do. I will play
> Russian roulette with your buddy for a million and take the first
> shot. If he doesn't take the second, I win. Last one to take a shot
> loses. Revolver only, no automatics:)

Ok, same challenge, but $25/$50 for 5 buyins on PokerStars. He isn't sure
if he can get money to Stars, but if you accept the challenge he will get
it there.

As for game, he is a NLHE specialist and doesn't play other games. His
challenge is headsup NLHE. What's your next excuse?

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RussGe...@aol.com

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Jul 10, 2008, 11:06:03 PM7/10/08
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On Jul 10, 7:57�pm, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > You get whoever you want to play me. The game will be 5 card stud NL.
> > It will be at a casino of my choice.
>
> This won't happen for 2 reasons: �1) he's 20 years old and can't get in
> most casinos, 2) we've already seen your famous backing down from Barry
> Greenstein's challenge. �This is an online challenge.
>
> > Sound familiar?
>
> > Did someone die and make you and your buddy dictator?
>
> No, but we are offering the terms of a challenge. �Listen, we know that no
> matter what we say you're going to back down, so we're just going to show
> RGP once again how ridiculous you can be.
>
> > I already have stated I don't play on FT
> > 100000000000000000000000000000 times.
>
> > Now if your buddy want to NEGOTIATE (do you understand the word)? This
> > means the following, he doesn't get to pick the game or the place to
> > play. It's a mutuel agreement. I'll tell you what I'll do. I will play
> > Russian roulette with your buddy for a million and take the first
> > shot. If he doesn't take the second, I win. Last one to take a shot
> > loses. Revolver only, no automatics:)
>
> Ok, same challenge, but $25/$50 for 5 buyins on PokerStars. �He isn't sure
> if he can get money to Stars, but if you accept the challenge he will get
> it there.
>

I don't have a FT account and I don't care to play coin flip games.
Plus, so many people have complained about it taking weeks to cash out
on FT.

I'd really be smart to open an account on a site, being I live in WA.
State where it's a 3rd class Felony to play online. Giving lessons is
not:).

I know you have mental problems Mo ron phy, but I have stated just in
my previous posts on all the side bets that HOLDEM was not to be
played.

Unlike you, I'm retired, not retarted.

> As for game, he is a NLHE specialist and doesn't play other games. �His
> challenge is headsup NLHE. �What's your next excuse?
>
> ---
> Morphy

> xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.comhttp://www.donkeymanifesto.com

XaQ Morphy

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Jul 10, 2008, 11:17:34 PM7/10/08
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On Jul 10 2008 10:06 PM, RussGe...@aol.com wrote:

> > Ok, same challenge, but $25/$50 for 5 buyins on PokerStars. �He isn't
sure

> I don't have a FT account and I don't care to play coin flip games.


> Plus, so many people have complained about it taking weeks to cash out
> on FT.

Well it's funny you mention retarded, because I clearly mentioned
PokerStars above. Please try and keep up.

> I'd really be smart to open an account on a site, being I live in WA.
> State where it's a 3rd class Felony to play online. Giving lessons is
> not:).

Giving lessons also allows you not to have to put up any of your own money.

> I know you have mental problems Mo ron phy, but I have stated just in
> my previous posts on all the side bets that HOLDEM was not to be
> played.
>
> Unlike you, I'm retired, not retarted.

So what game were you going to play against Barry Greenstein? 50/100
Chicken?

Like I said, we all knew you were going to back down from the challenge.
It's ok. You don't want to be outclassed by a 20 year old kid, and even
if you did, you don't have the money to play. We get it. Just remember
this post when you start whining in other posts about people not playing
seriously on RGP.

It's now official, you've backed down from the challenge.

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ruylopez

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Jul 10, 2008, 11:27:02 PM7/10/08
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On Jul 10 2008 11:17 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

>
> It's now official, you've backed down from the challenge.
>

You really take the Russ thing a little far sometimes. You invent some
high dollar challenge and dictate the terms and then criticize him for
backing down when he doesn't immediately agree. I doubt there is anyone
on the planet who would have accepted this challenge, this quickly, in
this manner.

I have to say you do seem a little obsessed.

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XaQ Morphy

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Jul 10, 2008, 11:39:46 PM7/10/08
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On Jul 10 2008 10:27 PM, ruylopez wrote:

> You really take the Russ thing a little far sometimes. You invent some
> high dollar challenge and dictate the terms and then criticize him for
> backing down when he doesn't immediately agree. I doubt there is anyone
> on the planet who would have accepted this challenge, this quickly, in
> this manner.
>
> I have to say you do seem a little obsessed.

I'm just showing RGP once again what joke Russ is. I knew there would be
people like yourself who would blindly follow Russ no matter what. Let's
face it, Russ has ruined RGP with his ridiculous bullshit, and it's time
someone stood up for RGP as a whole.

Also the challenge was not invented. I was on IM with esko discussing the
terms the entire time.

I also find it funny that you don't have any issues with how Russ has put
together his challenges, but show up out of no where when he backs down
from mine. Russ's dictating was way more over the top than mine was.
Mine is simply a NLHE headsup challenge for stakes that Russ complains no
one will play against him. Do you see the difference?

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ruylopez

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Jul 10, 2008, 11:54:19 PM7/10/08
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On Jul 10 2008 11:39 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:


> I'm just showing RGP once again what joke Russ is. I knew there would be
> people like yourself who would blindly follow Russ no matter what. Let's
> face it, Russ has ruined RGP with his ridiculous bullshit, and it's time
> someone stood up for RGP as a whole.
>

When have I "blindly followed Russ"?

> I also find it funny that you don't have any issues with how Russ has put
> together his challenges, but show up out of no where when he backs down
> from mine. Russ's dictating was way more over the top than mine was.
> Mine is simply a NLHE headsup challenge for stakes that Russ complains no
> one will play against him. Do you see the difference?
>

I didn't mean to show up out of nowhere. Recgroups won't let me reply to
the perp motion thread anymore for some reason so I got disenchanted
yesterday and took the day off. We all know what Russ is by now; I'm sure
everybody has made up their minds. I just don't think you achieved much
of anything in this thread besides seeming a little too interested.

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Arlo-Payne

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:18:55 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 10 2008 7:35 PM, RussGe...@aol.com wrote:

> You get whoever you want to play me. The game will be 5 card stud NL.
> It will be at a casino of my choice.

Can I play?
5 stud NL was my road game when Roy Bobbie and I played the bars in
Colorado ski towns.
Main game in Breckenridge 1972.

Love ya Russ
AND
I really loved the take down you did with the cash bet.
Nothing like betting a sure thing
Well goes to run before RGP sucks me in again
work work work

BTW
Anyone without guns and amno..; start stocking up for the civil war
commmmming in December

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johnny_t

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:35:13 AM7/11/08
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Arlo-Payne wrote:

> BTW
> Anyone without guns and amno..; start stocking up for the civil war
> commmmming in December

NO, Way. What do you think happens when oil snaps back to 40 dollars a
barrel in December.

Don't you think the real power knows?

Great relief for awhile, and then we start over again. Cycles, lots of
cycles. (12/12/12 though... Ask Gotskillz!)

gtech1

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:40:36 AM7/11/08
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I agree.
On Jul 10 2008 11:27 PM, ruylopez wrote:

> On Jul 10 2008 11:17 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> >
> > It's now official, you've backed down from the challenge.
> >
>
> You really take the Russ thing a little far sometimes. You invent some
> high dollar challenge and dictate the terms and then criticize him for
> backing down when he doesn't immediately agree. I doubt there is anyone
> on the planet who would have accepted this challenge, this quickly, in
> this manner.
>
> I have to say you do seem a little obsessed.

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Paul Popinjay

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:39:51 AM7/11/08
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"johnny_t" <nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> NO, Way. What do you think happens when oil snaps back to 40 dollars a
> barrel in December.
>
> Don't you think the real power knows?
>

The real power is inflating the money supply. Are they all of a sudden
going to stop doing that? Get real!


ruylopez

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Jul 11, 2008, 1:01:15 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 11 2008 12:35 AM, johnny_t wrote:

> Arlo-Payne wrote:
>
> > BTW
> > Anyone without guns and amno..; start stocking up for the civil war
> > commmmming in December
>
> NO, Way. What do you think happens when oil snaps back to 40 dollars a
> barrel in December.
>

Willing to bet on this? I'm sure we could find someone here in RGP's
sucker exploitation department who would be willing to offer you sizable
odds, let's say 5 to 1? 10?

Do you know oil production has already apparently peaked in non-OPEC
countries?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves

In OPEC countries, well, we usually don't know what the hell is going on.
So, since increasing production does not really seem to be possible (GET
USED TO IT), I take it you are predicting an order of magnitude reduction
in demand by December? Or you're just nuts.

da pickle

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Jul 11, 2008, 7:35:53 AM7/11/08
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"da pickle no spam" wrote [but "da pickle" did not write]

> Sounds familiar. lol

I have no bone to pick with Russ.


Jachomo

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Xaq is obsessed and jealous of everyone. He can't stand anyone getting
attention and he has to jump in and try to get in the mix... like he's
a playa. I pretty much forgot about RGP for several months, and the
first time I check in... this is what's going on. Typical Xaqpussy
bullshit.

Ron Dworkin

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Jul 11, 2008, 9:24:12 AM7/11/08
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> bullshit.- Hide quoted text -

I can vouch for Xaq here. This is a legitmate challenge - I know for
a fact that this friend of Xaq's plays NLHE for those stakes, and that
he would be willing to play Russ. I also know that the kid is only 20
and specializes in NLHE online, so would not accept a live challenge -
why would he? Trying to turn this into a live challenge in a game
other than NLHE is absurd - if Russ doesn't want to play because he
doesn't like the terms, or thinks the kid will win, or if he can't
come up with the money, or whatever reason - then no problem, Russ
does not accept; but it is what it is - an offer to play NLHE online
for 25-50 stakes. I haven't talked to Xaq about this but I know both
him and his friend and the challenge is legit. How is that bullshit?


>
> - Show quoted text -

Abbey Johnsson

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Jul 11, 2008, 10:11:30 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 10 2008 11:39 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

Let's
> face it, Russ has ruined RGP with his ridiculous bullshit, and it's time
> someone stood up for RGP as a whole.

I dont think so. I think rgp changed ("ruined" isnt the corrrect word)
when all the "tv scooters" showed up (tanya, fell, morphy,cincikid,
estabanaa, etc) and turned rgp into a chat room instead of a poker
discussion group.

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GrouchySmurf1002

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Jul 11, 2008, 10:14:33 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 11 2008 8:51 AM, Jachomo wrote:

> Xaq is obsessed and jealous of everyone.

Says the guy whose posts are 97% replies to XaQ or in threads about him.

> I pretty much forgot about RGP for several months

Or several weeks, whatever.

Get a grip hammer.

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FellKnight

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Jul 11, 2008, 10:14:23 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 11 2008 10:11 AM, Abbey Johnsson wrote:

> On Jul 10 2008 11:39 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> Let's
> > face it, Russ has ruined RGP with his ridiculous bullshit, and it's time
> > someone stood up for RGP as a whole.
>
> I dont think so. I think rgp changed ("ruined" isnt the corrrect word)
> when all the "tv scooters" showed up (tanya, fell, morphy,cincikid,
> estabanaa, etc) and turned rgp into a chat room instead of a poker
> discussion group.

RGP was long gone well before I showed up in 2004.

Fell
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XaQ Morphy

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On Jul 11 2008 8:24 AM, Ron Dworkin wrote:

> I can vouch for Xaq here. This is a legitmate challenge - I know for
> a fact that this friend of Xaq's plays NLHE for those stakes, and that
> he would be willing to play Russ. I also know that the kid is only 20
> and specializes in NLHE online, so would not accept a live challenge -
> why would he? Trying to turn this into a live challenge in a game
> other than NLHE is absurd - if Russ doesn't want to play because he
> doesn't like the terms, or thinks the kid will win, or if he can't
> come up with the money, or whatever reason - then no problem, Russ
> does not accept; but it is what it is - an offer to play NLHE online
> for 25-50 stakes. I haven't talked to Xaq about this but I know both
> him and his friend and the challenge is legit. How is that bullshit?

LOL is that poor pathetic fucker Jachomo still around? I killfiled him a
while ago after he refused to accept the fact that I'm not interested in
his homosexual advances. Poor guy, almost pity him now.

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Ron Dworkin

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Jul 11, 2008, 11:04:03 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 11, 11:01 am, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Jul 11 2008 8:24 AM, Ron Dworkin wrote:
>
> > I can vouch for Xaq here.  This is a legitmate challenge - I know for
> > a fact that this friend of Xaq's plays NLHE for those stakes, and that
> > he would be willing to play Russ.  I also know that the kid is only 20
> > and specializes in NLHE online, so would not accept a live challenge -
> > why would he?  Trying to turn this into a live challenge in a game
> > other than NLHE is absurd -  if Russ doesn't want to play because he
> > doesn't like the terms, or thinks the kid will win, or if he can't
> > come up with the money, or whatever reason - then no problem, Russ
> > does not accept; but it is what it is - an offer to play NLHE online
> > for 25-50 stakes.  I haven't talked to Xaq about this but I know both
> > him and his friend and the challenge is legit.  How is that bullshit?
>
> LOL is that poor pathetic fucker Jachomo still around?  I killfiled him a
> while ago after he refused to accept the fact that I'm not interested in
> his homosexual advances.  Poor guy, almost pity him now.

heh. I didn't know you guys had a history. I would have just ignored
him :)

>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.comhttp://www.donkeymanifesto.com

XaQ Morphy

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Jul 11, 2008, 11:30:58 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 11 2008 10:04 AM, Ron Dworkin wrote:

> heh. I didn't know you guys had a history. I would have just ignored
> him :)

Where's the fun in that?

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Paul Popinjay

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Jul 11, 2008, 11:39:43 AM7/11/08
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"Abbey Johnsson" <ac6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Jul 10 2008 11:39 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> Let's
>> face it, Russ has ruined RGP with his ridiculous bullshit, and it's time
>> someone stood up for RGP as a whole.
>
> I dont think so. I think rgp changed ("ruined" isnt the corrrect word)
> when all the "tv scooters" showed up (tanya, fell, morphy,cincikid,
> estabanaa, etc) and turned rgp into a chat room instead of a poker
> discussion group.
>

That's the SAME thing I was thinking, it's that FellKnight! If ANYBODY has
ruined RGP, it's that FellKnight. He has almost single-handedly RUINED IT,
more than anyone else in all of RGP history! RUINED IT, I say!
He and Da Pickle. RUINED IT!

-PP


K9way

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Jul 11, 2008, 11:48:38 AM7/11/08
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NOW THATS A FUCKING CHALLENGE!!

MORPHY NEVER INTENDS TO HAVE ANYTHING HAPPEN. HE ONLY WANTS TO DO WHAT HE
DOES BEST ..TYPE.

HE HAS ATTAINED HIS HIGHEST STATURE IN POKER IN JUST DISCUSSING THIS
CHALLENGE.

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K9way

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:03:03 PM7/11/08
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On Jul 11 2008 9:11 AM, Abbey Johnsson wrote:

> On Jul 10 2008 11:39 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> Let's
> > face it, Russ has ruined RGP with his ridiculous bullshit, and it's time
> > someone stood up for RGP as a whole.
>
> I dont think so. I think rgp changed ("ruined" isnt the corrrect word)
> when all the "tv scooters" showed up (tanya, fell, morphy,cincikid,
> estabanaa, etc) and turned rgp into a chat room instead of a poker
> discussion group.

Now you are getting the hang of it !!

and i will expect a 'royalty" for your using the term 'TV scooter" TM@

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K9way

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:00:28 PM7/11/08
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Your challenge had a list of specific 'hoops" to jump through.

Russ has simply said .. no holdem .. you pick the game and the amount!!
Thats a bold offer and we know Russ will play.

So far we know nothing about a 'mystery guest" with a list of requests
longer than what Modonna wants in her dressing room.

Morphy .. you are as lame at this as you are at trying to play poker !!
back to the Cub Scout meetings and leave the gambling to the grown ups !!

I have arranged HU matches , and taken financial pieces in some , and I
can tell you that there is absolutely always negotiations. Anyone who
would not negotiate would be a fool .. not a coward!!

XaQ Morphy

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:10:30 PM7/11/08
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On Jul 11 2008 10:48 AM, K9way wrote:

> NOW THATS A FUCKING CHALLENGE!!
>
> MORPHY NEVER INTENDS TO HAVE ANYTHING HAPPEN. HE ONLY WANTS TO DO WHAT HE
> DOES BEST ..TYPE.
>
> HE HAS ATTAINED HIS HIGHEST STATURE IN POKER IN JUST DISCUSSING THIS
> CHALLENGE.

Once again you are wrong. Feel free to put up some money and I'll put you
in a game with Esko on FullTilt. You have enough there from your SNG
wins, right?

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XaQ Morphy

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:09:29 PM7/11/08
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On Jul 11 2008 11:00 AM, K9way wrote:

> Your challenge had a list of specific 'hoops" to jump through.
>
> Russ has simply said .. no holdem .. you pick the game and the amount!!
> Thats a bold offer and we know Russ will play.
>
> So far we know nothing about a 'mystery guest" with a list of requests
> longer than what Modonna wants in her dressing room.
>
> Morphy .. you are as lame at this as you are at trying to play poker !!
> back to the Cub Scout meetings and leave the gambling to the grown ups !!
>
> I have arranged HU matches , and taken financial pieces in some , and I
> can tell you that there is absolutely always negotiations. Anyone who
> would not negotiate would be a fool .. not a coward!!

I never said there weren't any negotiations. I posted a list of proposed
terms, and Russ was more than able to counter offer. There are 2 things
that can't change: 1) the game is headsup NLHE, 2) nothing over $50/$100.

Everything else is negotiable.

I'm sorry that Russ feels he cannot play NLHE vs. a 20 year old kid. I'm
also sorry that Esko (said 20 year old kid) doesn't play games other than
headsup NLHE. Unfortunately I can't control either of those.

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K9way

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:19:56 PM7/11/08
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On Jul 11 2008 8:24 AM, Ron Dworkin wrote:

> Xaq is obsessed and jealous of everyone. He can't stand anyone getting
> > attention and he has to jump in and try to get in the mix... like he's
> > a playa. I pretty much forgot about RGP for several months, and the
> > first time I check in... this is what's going on. Typical Xaqpussy
> > bullshit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> I can vouch for Xaq here. This is a legitmate challenge - I know for
> a fact that this friend of Xaq's plays NLHE for those stakes, and that
> he would be willing to play Russ. I also know that the kid is only 20
> and specializes in NLHE online, so would not accept a live challenge -
> why would he? Trying to turn this into a live challenge in a game
> other than NLHE is absurd - if Russ doesn't want to play because he
> doesn't like the terms, or thinks the kid will win, or if he can't
> come up with the money, or whatever reason - then no problem, Russ
> does not accept; but it is what it is - an offer to play NLHE online
> for 25-50 stakes. I haven't talked to Xaq about this but I know both
> him and his friend and the challenge is legit. How is that bullshit?

I ALWAYS LOVE THESE DEALS WHERE SOMEONE 20 YEARS OLD CLAIMS TO BE A
'SPECIALIST" IN POKER.

There are no 20 year old 'specialists " in poker. There are tons of 20
year olds who have been on a streak, some that coin flipped their way into
a score. but there are no 20 year old poker pros. Helmuth backed into a
score when he was like 23 .. he was broke several times after that , and
now recovered thru marketing, and promotion.

YOU AINT A SPECIALIST IN POKER TILL AFTER YOU HAVE FOUGHT BACK FROM
ADVERSITY AND ACNE IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ADVERSITY(no offense MorphDork)


>
>
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

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XaQ Morphy

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:23:24 PM7/11/08
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On Jul 11 2008 11:19 AM, K9way wrote:

> I ALWAYS LOVE THESE DEALS WHERE SOMEONE 20 YEARS OLD CLAIMS TO BE A
> 'SPECIALIST" IN POKER.
>
> There are no 20 year old 'specialists " in poker. There are tons of 20
> year olds who have been on a streak, some that coin flipped their way into
> a score. but there are no 20 year old poker pros. Helmuth backed into a
> score when he was like 23 .. he was broke several times after that , and
> now recovered thru marketing, and promotion.
>
> YOU AINT A SPECIALIST IN POKER TILL AFTER YOU HAVE FOUGHT BACK FROM
> ADVERSITY AND ACNE IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ADVERSITY(no offense MorphDork)

Ok nitpick the terms all you want, but he's one of the best headsup
players on FullTilt at those stakes (25/50 and 50/100), he's been playing
since he was 15, and he won more money in poker last month than you ever
will in your life.

Sorry to use the word specialist there, sparky.

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Ron Dworkin

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Would you feel better if instead of saying that Esko is a NLHE
specialist he said that he only plays NLHE and is not nearly as good
at the other games?

Kind of like instead of saying that you are an old broke bitter loser,
I could just say that you are past your prime, can't keep up with the
game any more and are upset about it - but really they make the same
point, don't they?

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"FellKnight" <jordand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Jul 11 2008 10:11 AM, Abbey Johnsson wrote:
>
>> On Jul 10 2008 11:39 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>>
>> Let's
>> > face it, Russ has ruined RGP with his ridiculous bullshit, and it's time
>> > someone stood up for RGP as a whole.
>>
>> I dont think so. I think rgp changed ("ruined" isnt the corrrect word)
>> when all the "tv scooters" showed up (tanya, fell, morphy,cincikid,
>> estabanaa, etc) and turned rgp into a chat room instead of a poker
>> discussion group.
>
>RGP was long gone well before I showed up in 2004.
>
>Fell

RGP went down the tubes when the web interfaces were created. Prior
to that you had to know about Usenet and figure out how to use a
newsreader. This kept the average IQ on the group considerably
higher. There are still some excellent posters, but very little is
new and the level of adolescent prattling is very high.

Despite that, with the help of a good set of filters, I read the group
every day and value the contributions of quite a number of posters.

Best,

Peter
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johnny_t

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Cycles my man.

And considering the near 100% view that this will not happen, I can sit
here and nearly guarantee it.

The public is NEVER this right. This is precisely the time to start
investing the other way.

Paul Popinjay

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"johnny_t" <nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> Cycles my man.
>

The weather goes in cycles. The economy is manipulated consciously and
deliberately.


johnny_t

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Agreed, fully. Truly. This is why $40 dollar oil is coming. Keep the
proles off balance.

charrison100

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How much is "$40 dollar"

RussGe...@aol.com

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Explain th IRONY, for those of us who are below your level? You who
are about to TAKE ORDERS for the next 2-3 years of when you can shit,
eat, read, sleep and whatever.

I am not of the same cloth. I don't take orders nor demands.

If you care to wage war with me on RGP, feel free. I've stated the
same thing for over 7 years now, online poker is crooked. The high
ends they are getting to. The low end will be exposed, but you broke
morons who want to go fight for? go ahead.

I've stated, even in the last few prop bets, HOLDEM was out. Guess
this doesn't sink into some of you.

Might be the reason many of you are broke.

Why do you think they put the HORSE into the WSOP? See any scooters
winning that event? How about the MAIN EVENT? Odds on, it's another
scooter again.

Russ Georgiev

www.pokerunchecked.com
www.pokermafia.com
www.russgeorgiev.com


On Jul 10, 7:45�pm, "FellKnight" <jordandevenp...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> On Jul 10 2008 10:35 PM, RussGeorg...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Now if your buddy want to NEGOTIATE (do you understand the word)?
>

> Irony, thy name is Russ.


>
> Fell
> --
> "One should always play fairly - when one has the winning cards."
> Oscar Wilde
>

FellKnight

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Well, shit.

If you can't be famous, you may as well be infamous.

Fell
--
"One should always play fairly - when one has the winning cards."
Oscar Wilde

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FellKnight

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On Jul 11 2008 12:19 PM, K9way wrote:

> I ALWAYS LOVE THESE DEALS WHERE SOMEONE 20 YEARS OLD CLAIMS TO BE A
> 'SPECIALIST" IN POKER.
>
> There are no 20 year old 'specialists " in poker. There are tons of 20
> year olds who have been on a streak, some that coin flipped their way into
> a score. but there are no 20 year old poker pros. Helmuth backed into a
> score when he was like 23 .. he was broke several times after that , and
> now recovered thru marketing, and promotion.
>
> YOU AINT A SPECIALIST IN POKER TILL AFTER YOU HAVE FOUGHT BACK FROM
> ADVERSITY AND ACNE IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ADVERSITY(no offense MorphDork)

Seems like a good reason for Russ to take the challenge, then, no?

Fell
--
"One should always play fairly - when one has the winning cards."
Oscar Wilde

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FellKnight

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On Jul 11 2008 3:18 PM, RussGe...@aol.com wrote:

> Explain th IRONY, for those of us who are below your level? You who
> are about to TAKE ORDERS for the next 2-3 years of when you can shit,
> eat, read, sleep and whatever.

The irony is that you shat all over Morphy for not knowing how to
negotiate, when you did the exact same thing during the Barry Greenstein
affair.

I will not be taking orders on such simple things, Russ, I am not in boot
camp anymore, and once we pass boot camp and trade school, they actually
treat us like human beings, hard to believe, I know.

> I am not of the same cloth. I don't take orders nor demands.
>
> If you care to wage war with me on RGP, feel free.

I have no desire to wage war with you, but I will defend myself and not
back down when you shoot your mouth of claiming that I only beat you
because I got lucky.

Fell
--
"One should always play fairly - when one has the winning cards."
Oscar Wilde

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RussGe...@aol.com

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Fell Knight

You tried going pro and couldn't do it. The reason was probably your
game selection (HOLDEM). I'm not interested in playing a game with a
little skill, I want to play a poker chess game.

Next, I have friends waiting for quite a while for money from Full
Tilt. So it makes lots of sense for me to put $25,000 on the site? NOT

They can't even get their few measly K off, yet I would get mine off
instantly should I win? I don't want glory. I want the cash. See me
$50,000 and I'll never post on RGP again.

I can see you military career. I stated a dozen times in the prop bets
HOLDEM was out, yet here you come with holdem. Hell Fell, you can make
50-100k playing 3-5 blinds with a $300 buy-in. Guess you can't even do
that:)?

You and T make a great pair. She knew better than to send me one of
her form emails begging for backing last year and this.

Russ Georgiev

www.pokermafia.com
www.pokerunchecked.com
www.russgeorgiev.com

XaQ Morphy

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On Jul 11 2008 3:10 PM, RussGe...@aol.com wrote:

> Next, I have friends waiting for quite a while for money from Full
> Tilt. So it makes lots of sense for me to put $25,000 on the site? NOT

I've already stated the match could be played on PokerStars. However, if
you are unwilling to show off your WCP NLHE skills, I'm afraid I don't
have anyone for you to play.

________________________________________________________________________ 

trang...@hotmail.com

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On Jul 11, 3:10 pm, "RussGeorg...@aol.com" <RussGeorg...@aol.com>
wrote:

> Fell Knight
>
> You tried going pro and couldn't do it. The reason was probably your
> game selection (HOLDEM). I'm not interested in playing a game with a
> little skill, I want to play a poker chess game.
>
> Next, I have friends waiting for quite a while for money from Full
> Tilt. So it makes lots of sense for me to put $25,000 on the site? NOT

Wow, you're really fucking stupid Russ. They've said Pokerstars
multiple times now. Can you tie your own shoes?

> They can't even get their few measly K off, yet I would get mine off
> instantly should I win? I don't want glory. I want the cash.

"See me $50,000 and I'll never post on RGP again." What the fuck does
this even mean. Are you drunk?

> I can see you military career. I stated a dozen times in the prop bets
> HOLDEM was out, yet here you come with holdem. Hell Fell, you can make
> 50-100k playing 3-5 blinds with a $300 buy-in. Guess you can't even do
> that:)?
>
> You and T make a great pair. She knew better than to send me one of
> her form emails begging for backing last year and this.
>
> Russ Georgiev
>
> www.pokermafia.comwww.pokerunchecked.comwww.russgeorgiev.com
>
> On Jul 11, 7:14�am, "FellKnight" <jordandevenp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 11 2008 10:11 AM, Abbey Johnsson wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 10 2008 11:39 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > > � Let's
> > > > face it, Russ has ruined RGP with his ridiculous bullshit, and it's time
> > > > someone stood up for RGP as a whole.
>
> > > � �I dont think so. I think rgp changed ("ruined" isnt the corrrect word)
> > > when all the "tv scooters" showed up (tanya, fell, morphy,cincikid,
> > > estabanaa, etc) and turned rgp into a chat room instead of a poker
> > > discussion group.
>
> > RGP was long gone well before I showed up in 2004.
>
> > Fell
> > --
> > "One should always play fairly - when one has the winning cards."
> > Oscar Wilde
>
> > ----�

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FellKnight

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On Jul 11 2008 4:10 PM, RussGe...@aol.com wrote:

> Fell Knight
>
> You tried going pro and couldn't do it. The reason was probably your
> game selection (HOLDEM). I'm not interested in playing a game with a
> little skill, I want to play a poker chess game.
>
> Next, I have friends waiting for quite a while for money from Full
> Tilt. So it makes lots of sense for me to put $25,000 on the site? NOT
>
> They can't even get their few measly K off, yet I would get mine off
> instantly should I win? I don't want glory. I want the cash. See me
> $50,000 and I'll never post on RGP again.
>
> I can see you military career. I stated a dozen times in the prop bets
> HOLDEM was out, yet here you come with holdem. Hell Fell, you can make
> 50-100k playing 3-5 blinds with a $300 buy-in. Guess you can't even do
> that:)?
>
> You and T make a great pair. She knew better than to send me one of
> her form emails begging for backing last year and this.
>
> Russ Georgiev

I don't even know where to begin with this post, so I won't.

Fell
--
"One should always play fairly - when one has the winning cards."
Oscar Wilde

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Robert Ladd

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"XaQ Morphy" <a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Jul 11 2008 11:00 AM, K9way wrote:
>
>> Your challenge had a list of specific 'hoops" to jump through.
>>
>> Russ has simply said .. no holdem .. you pick the game and the amount!!
>> Thats a bold offer and we know Russ will play.
>>
>> So far we know nothing about a 'mystery guest" with a list of requests
>> longer than what Modonna wants in her dressing room.
>>
>> Morphy .. you are as lame at this as you are at trying to play poker !!
>> back to the Cub Scout meetings and leave the gambling to the grown ups !!
>>
>> I have arranged HU matches , and taken financial pieces in some , and I
>> can tell you that there is absolutely always negotiations. Anyone who
>> would not negotiate would be a fool .. not a coward!!
>
> I never said there weren't any negotiations. I posted a list of proposed
> terms, and Russ was more than able to counter offer. There are 2 things
> that can't change: 1) the game is headsup NLHE, 2) nothing over $50/$100.
>
> Everything else is negotiable.
>
> I'm sorry that Russ feels he cannot play NLHE vs. a 20 year old kid. I'm
> also sorry that Esko (said 20 year old kid) doesn't play games other than
> headsup NLHE. Unfortunately I can't control either of those.
>

I believe you're misrepresenting what Russ is saying he can't play against.
I'm pretty sure he didn't say he had a problem playing against a 20 year old
kid. I think he said he's not going to play NLHE. The difference, which
you're not seeing is that NLHE is a coin flip. Agressiveness, board
reading, bet reading are all skills that definitely make a difference if the
cards came to both players equally, but that seldom happens. One player or
the other will get the cards at the right times and walks away the winner.
One skill that Russ seems to possess is that he can turn down a situation
that puts too much money at risk in a coin flip situation. From reading the
stories that Russ tells, that was a skill he acquired through losing his
Bankroll more than once. That would be a good skill for the (said 20 year
old kid) to acquire while he still has the money he's won while on the good
side of those coin flips. Only time will tell if he continues to keep the
luck or if it catches up with him. Hopefully he'll learn to understand that
and take a good portion of what he's acquired so far and put it in something
that will still be there in 20 years. The problem is that ego inflates the
perception of skill in these instances and it's usually too late before the
realization hits home.

Robert Ladd

XaQ Morphy

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On Jul 11 2008 3:57 PM, Robert Ladd wrote:

> I believe you're misrepresenting what Russ is saying he can't play against.
> I'm pretty sure he didn't say he had a problem playing against a 20 year old
> kid. I think he said he's not going to play NLHE. The difference, which
> you're not seeing is that NLHE is a coin flip. Agressiveness, board
> reading, bet reading are all skills that definitely make a difference if the
> cards came to both players equally, but that seldom happens. One player or
> the other will get the cards at the right times and walks away the winner.
> One skill that Russ seems to possess is that he can turn down a situation
> that puts too much money at risk in a coin flip situation. From reading the
> stories that Russ tells, that was a skill he acquired through losing his
> Bankroll more than once. That would be a good skill for the (said 20 year
> old kid) to acquire while he still has the money he's won while on the good
> side of those coin flips. Only time will tell if he continues to keep the
> luck or if it catches up with him. Hopefully he'll learn to understand that
> and take a good portion of what he's acquired so far and put it in something
> that will still be there in 20 years. The problem is that ego inflates the
> perception of skill in these instances and it's usually too late before the
> realization hits home.

All I see in the above super-paragraph is one big excuse for why Russ
won't play. Russ has posted that he's the only WCP on RGP. He has posted
"countless" poker strategy posts, several dealing with NLHE. Yet, there's
a 20 year old kid who only plays NLHE who is willing to play him for WCP
money and he refuses to play, making up excuse after excuse.

This has nothing to do with the 20 year old kid's bankroll or game, so the
last 5-6 sentences in your post are irrelevant. This has everything to do
with Russ's claims of greatness and now nitpicking details and making
excuses for backing out of a challenge. Notice how he didn't even try to
negotiate, instead made up crazy excuses and situations and immediately
backed out?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: those of us who know what Russ
is about know exactly what he would say to this challenge. Those who
blindly follow him, are in love with him, or in some cases are actually
Russ himself obviously don't see this.

The truth is that unless there's some parlor trick involved, Russ won't
play it when it comes to poker.

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Raider Fan

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On Jul 11 2008 4:17 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

>
> I've said it before and I'll say it again: those of us who know what Russ
> is about know exactly what he would say to this challenge. Those who
> blindly follow him, are in love with him, or in some cases are actually
> Russ himself obviously don't see this.

Hey Morphy. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

____________________________________________________________________ 

A Man Beaten by Jacks

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:23:24 -0700, "XaQ Morphy"
<a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

>On Jul 11 2008 11:19 AM, K9way wrote:

[Doggy droppings]

>Ok nitpick the terms all you want, but he's one of the best headsup
>players on FullTilt at those stakes (25/50 and 50/100), he's been playing
>since he was 15, and he won more money in poker last month than you ever
>will in your life.

People who have never played poker have won more than doggystyle.
Even 0 is higher than a negative number.

A Man Beaten by Jacks

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:40:00 -0700, Peter Secor <pe...@scfrey.com>
wrote:

>RGP went down the tubes when the web interfaces were created.

Usenet went down the tubes when they allowed AOL on it.

It has been September since 1993.

XaQ Morphy

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On Jul 11 2008 4:25 PM, Raider Fan wrote:

> Hey Morphy. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Choose one of the following: in the PLO8 tournament that Russ bet RGP he
would cash in, did Russ:

A) Play optimal tournament poker trying to win as much as possible

or

B) From the very beginning, do whatever it would take to barely scrape by
and cash, just to fullfill the bet?

Note that I'm not saying which one is right or wrong, I'm merely asking a
question.

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Susan

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"A Man Beaten by Jacks" <nob...@fool.foo> wrote in message
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Wow, you know him too? Do you have *evidence* of that too?


XaQ Morphy

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On Jul 11 2008 4:33 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:

> Usenet went down the tubes when they allowed AOL on it.
>
> It has been September since 1993.

Hmmm...what email address does Russ post here with? Interesting little
coincidence there.

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XaQ Morphy

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On Jul 11 2008 4:51 PM, Raider Fan wrote:

> Obviously B. So what's the point?

Not sure, still working on that part of it.

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Raider Fan

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On Jul 11 2008 4:38 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Jul 11 2008 4:25 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > Hey Morphy. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!
>
> Choose one of the following: in the PLO8 tournament that Russ bet RGP he
> would cash in, did Russ:
>
> A) Play optimal tournament poker trying to win as much as possible
>
> or
>
> B) From the very beginning, do whatever it would take to barely scrape by
> and cash, just to fullfill the bet?
>
> Note that I'm not saying which one is right or wrong, I'm merely asking a
> question.

Obviously B. So what's the point?

____________________________________________________________________ 

johnny_t

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charrison100 wrote:
> On Jul 11 2008 2:31 PM, johnny_t wrote:
>
>> Paul Popinjay wrote:
>>> "johnny_t" <nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
>>> news:48779048$0$18584$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>>> Cycles my man.
>>>>
>>> The weather goes in cycles. The economy is manipulated consciously and
>>> deliberately.
>>>
>> Agreed, fully. Truly. This is why $40 dollar oil is coming. Keep the
>> proles off balance.
>
> How much is "$40 dollar"


How stupid are you? Uh oh. I had a typo. I am willing to bet that
Irish Mike retard squirrels could figure it out.

Rob

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"Raider Fan" <raidersgo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 11 2008 4:38 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
>> On Jul 11 2008 4:25 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Morphy. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!
>>
>> Choose one of the following: in the PLO8 tournament that Russ bet RGP he
>> would cash in, did Russ:
>>
>> A) Play optimal tournament poker trying to win as much as possible
>>
>> or
>>
>> B) From the very beginning, do whatever it would take to barely scrape by
>> and cash, just to fullfill the bet?
>>
>> Note that I'm not saying which one is right or wrong, I'm merely asking a
>> question.
>
> Obviously B. So what's the point?
>

Depending on the amount of the bet, and the tourney payout, A and B may well
be the same.


Bill Vanek

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Jul 12, 2008, 2:16:25 AM7/12/08
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:17:24 -0700, "XaQ Morphy"
<a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

>I've said it before and I'll say it again: those of us who know what Russ
>is about

How does one gain your wisdom, your vision, your perception? You see
where the rest of us are blind. We should all worship you, not Russ.

Paul Popinjay

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<RussGe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Explain th IRONY, for those of us who are below your level? You who
> are about to TAKE ORDERS for the next 2-3 years of when you can shit,
> eat, read, sleep and whatever.


This is one of the things I don't get either. What the fuck was Fell
thinking about? Not long ago he was a free spirit, an easy-going poker pro
and part-time businessman. And now, voluntarily, he joins the freaking
Army. Is he out of his fucking mind? He's not a kid anymore. It ain't
like he's 18 or something. Somebody should slap Fell.

-PP


XaQ Morphy

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On Jul 12 2008 1:16 AM, Bill Vanek wrote:

> How does one gain your wisdom, your vision, your perception? You see
> where the rest of us are blind. We should all worship you, not Russ.

Now you're starting to get it. In time you will understand. The process
of enlightenment cannot be rushed.

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charrison100

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Jul 14, 2008, 9:29:23 AM7/14/08
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Do you get them from the ATM Machine?

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