OT: Is anyone else as sick of Penn Jillette as I am?
Popinjay
This fat fuck is so MILITANT about being an atheist. He's almost
religious about it.
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Mossingen
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>I am so fucking sick of Penn Jillette!
>
> This fat fuck is so MILITANT about being an atheist. He's almost
> religious about it.
I don't care that he's an atheist, I've always considered him to be an
abrasive asshole who thought that he was much smarter than he actually is.
I guess he's done something recently to push your buttons, but I have not
seen it.
When I was in Vegas for the WSOP I saw him walking down the hallway in the
Rio. I suppose I should have just sucker-punched Jillette when I had the
chance. He's a huge guy, though. He might be able to kick some ass. The
celebrity that I've always wanted to fistfight is Axl Rose. I will pick a
fight with Axl if I see him anywhere.
Popinjay
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Named his daughter, his DAUGHTER, Moxie CrimeFighter Jillette. What an
asshole! The more I read about him, the more I can't stand him. Don't
count on me EVER going to see their show.
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Popinjay
>
> I don't care that he's an atheist, I've always considered him to be an
> abrasive asshole who thought that he was much smarter than he actually is.
> I guess he's done something recently to push your buttons, but I have not
> seen it.
>
What he's done to push my buttons is that he is EVERYWHERE promoting his
atheist line and his "libertarian" bullshit. He's so in-your-face about
it all. Why not keep that shit to himself?
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Will in New Haven
Why not keep your stupidity to yourself? I realize that he has can
reach a wider audience than you can, because of his celebrity status.
And because he isn't an immensely stupid, superstitious piece of shit.
Nothing personal.
--
Will in New Haven
BillB
>I've always considered him to be an
> abrasive asshole who thought that he was much smarter than he actually is.
Sounds like my kind of guy.
Will in New Haven
Don't let the flatterers and sycophants among your fans on RGP fool
you. You're no Penn Gillette. At best, you are a third-rate version.
--
Will in New Haven
"With a shiver in my bones just thinking about the weather"
From "Like the Weather," by Natalie Merchant
Album: In My Tribe by 10,000 maniacs
Wilhelm Kuhlmann
Another blasphemous atheist???
Fuck him!
William Coleman (ramashiva)
BillB
> You're no Penn Gillette.
Most definitely not. He is a blasphemous atheist and a libertarian
wingnut. Those are characteristics most commonly found in people with
IQs in the 100-110 range. Actually, that pretty much describes you too,
doesn't it? Maybe you're Penn Gillette.
Mark Doubt
LOL!! This is so Beldin'ish... as I've tried to point out before, you
HAVE to be his father, the pics show a likeness, the posting style is
the same although admittedly yours is more sophisticated, these two
are related and the father/son thing just fits!!
mo_charles
> > wingnut. Those are characteristics most commonly found in people with
> > IQs in the 100-110 range. Actually, that pretty much describes you too,
> > doesn't it? Maybe you're Penn Gillette.
>
> LOL!! This is so Beldin'ish... as I've tried to point out before, you
> HAVE to be his father, the pics show a likeness, the posting style is
> the same although admittedly yours is more sophisticated, these two
> are related and the father/son thing just fits!!
blasphemous atheist? sometimes it's tough keeping those online identities
straight.
mo_charles
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VegasJerry
Holly shit! maybe I'M Penn Gillette!
Penn 'n Vegas
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fffurken1
> > IQs in the 100-110 range.
> Holly shit! maybe I'M Penn Gillette!
Don't flatter yourself.
(I apologise in advance to all parties concerned for the snip).
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Tim Norfolk
Interesting question. You can't be a heretic as an atheist. Can you
blaspheme?
phlash74
"Blasphemy is irreverence[1] toward holy personages, religious artifacts,
customs, and beliefs."
I would think most atheists would be irreverent toward holy personages,
religious artifacts, customs, and beliefs.
Michael
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"> phlash
On your circle jerk k00l kidz email list. Should be disqualified for
that, but I'll give him a pass because he is smart." - ramashiva,
8/22/2010
"Hitler has already been forgiven, but you have not." - Reptillian AKA
Igotskillz, 4/6/2011
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necron99
I want to smack out the pope. Spear tackle actually.
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fffurken1
> I want to smack out the pope. Spear tackle actually.
That shit's nasty.
Just 'splainin it for the group.
Paul can file it ...
Defn
Spear Tackle -
That shit's nasty.
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Robert Ladd
"Popinjay" <a52...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
you. No one is promoting religion in atheist's faces at all.
Robert Ladd
fffurken1
> Yeah, one atheist out promoting atheism, I can see where it would bother
> you. No one is promoting religion in atheist's faces at all.
Robert, will you do me a favour? I don't want to get involved in this
thread but will you whisper in Paul's ear - "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING
FEEL!"
Thanks.
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Popinjay
> Yeah, one atheist out promoting atheism, I can see where it would bother
> you. No one is promoting religion in atheist's faces at all.
>
I'd like to see Penn Jillette perform some of his magic when he is
roasting his chestnuts on an open fire for eternity and see if he can
escape like Houdini, that will be some fucking trick.
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necron99
If he was around 2000 years ago they would have called him Messiah..
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DDawgster
you mean like the christians do ?
> Apparently I see no reason for Perry to have lied well over a year ago..
Another gem from Alim Nassor
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pltr...@xhost.org
>On Aug 25 2011 8:38 AM, Popinjay wrote:
>
>> I am so fucking sick of Penn Jillette!
>>
>> This fat fuck is so MILITANT about being an atheist. He's almost
>> religious about it.
We saw his show at the Rio in January, and heard him do an extended Q&A at the
local Center for Inquiry last week -- it was very entertaining.
His whole approach is based on being humble, actually. Though he believes that
both religious people and atheists have a responsibility to their fellow man to
prosyletize.
Read his new book -- it's funny, entertaining, and probably shocking to a lot of
people.
>Named his daughter, his DAUGHTER, Moxie CrimeFighter Jillette. What an
>asshole! The more I read about him, the more I can't stand him. Don't
>count on me EVER going to see their show.
And his son is Zz.
BTW, there's no chance of him coming to rgp to listen to you, either. For
exactly the same reasons.
-- Larry
VegasJerry
> On Aug 25 2011 11:09 AM, Popinjay wrote:
>
> > On Aug 25 2011 8:56 AM, Mossingen wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't care that he's an atheist, I've always considered him to be an
> > > abrasive asshole who thought that he was much smarter than he actually
is.
> > > I guess he's done something recently to push your buttons, but I have
not
> > > seen it.
> > >
> >
> >
> > What he's done to push my buttons is that he is EVERYWHERE promoting his
> > atheist line and his "libertarian" bullshit. He's so in-your-face about
> > it all. Why not keep that shit to himself?
> >
> > ------
>
> you mean like the christians do ?
Dam(nation), that was good. Four AM and I lol and woke the dogs.
>
>
>
> > Apparently I see no reason for Perry to have lied well over a year ago..
>
> Another gem from Alim Nassor
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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Popinjay
> On Aug 25 2011 5:47 PM, DDawgster wrote:
>
> >
> > you mean like the christians do ?
>
>
> Dam(nation), that was good. Four AM and I lol and woke the dogs.
>
No it wasn't. He's got it entirely wrong. Christians are trying to help
mankind. People like Penn Jillette are trying to gather followers on
their futile path to nowhere. Penn Jillette is lost, and he wants company.
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mo_charles
>
> No it wasn't. He's got it entirely wrong. Christians are trying to help
> mankind. People like Penn Jillette are trying to gather followers on
> their futile path to nowhere. Penn Jillette is lost, and he wants company.
atheists just can't shut their mouths about their faith; it's impossible
for them. a lot of religious nuts moralize, but they've got shit on the
atheists proselytizing.
mo_charles
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John the Savage
> a lot of religious nuts moralize, but they've got shit on the
> atheists proselytizing.
Here's another one for mo's big book of stupid quotations.
mo_charles
> > atheists proselytizing.
>
> Here's another one for mo's big book of stupid quotations.
it's in english.
mo_charles
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Popinjay
> > > a lot of religious nuts moralize, but they've got shit on the
> > > atheists proselytizing.
> >
> > Here's another one for mo's big book of stupid quotations.
>
> it's in english.
>
And it's true. That's my point about Penn Jillette, the fat heathen fuck
can't keep his mouth shut. It would be different if Jennifer Aniston was
running around talking about atheism, but Penn Jillette is hard on the
eyes. I just can't stand listening to him, or looking at him.
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John the Savage
> On Aug 26 2011 7:57 AM, mo_charles wrote:
>
>>>> a lot of religious nuts moralize, but they've got shit on the
>>>> atheists proselytizing.
>>>
>>> Here's another one for mo's big book of stupid quotations.
>>
>> it's in english.
>>
>
>
> And it's true.
LOL. If you believe that statement is true, you either --
(1) have no idea what the word proselytize means.
(2) have no knowledge of history, and little knowledge of the current
world in which you live.
(3) are being a jackass on purpose.
I'll put you down for (3). Not so sure about mo.
Will in New Haven
If your stupid superstitious premises were correct, you would be
helping people. Since you have no evidence for all this god business,
you would do much more for mankind by simply trying to be good to
people.
John the Savage
> If your stupid superstitious premises were correct, you would be
> helping people.
If Christianity is true, I believe it would be every Christian's duty to
murder young children, especially your own! Just think about it --
small children and babies, when they die, go directly to heaven. No
questions asked! So, what would YOU rather have for your child, a free
pass into heaven forever, or a risky adventure through mod life, perhaps
as sinful as it has ever been?
You'd have to be a total lunatic to risk it. I understand, God might
judge you harshly, but it is the ultimate sacrifice to protect the
children -- your own children -- from eternal damnation. And you can!
Just murder them before they become old enough to fuck it up!
Based on my understanding of Christianity, abortion is actually every
parent's pious duty. Send that kid up to heaven. Do you really think
God would punish you for committing such a selfless act? I don't.
BeaForoni
>
> If Christianity is true,...
For two thousand years people have believed in zombies and cannibalism as
divine. Today we have George A. Romero and Wes Craven.
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mo_charles
>
> For two thousand years people have believed in zombies and cannibalism as
> divine. Today we have George A. Romero and Wes Craven.
.. and here they come, paul!
mo_charles
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Popinjay
>
> ... and here they come, paul!
>
They're taking this opportunity to be silly, and fuck with my head.
That's ok, and as long as I know what motivates them it is all harmless.
But whereas they are fucking around, I am serious. And they know I'm
serious. Will from New Haven talks about not having evidence of God's
existence. But I have the same evidence he does. I see evidence of God's
work all around me, every minute of every day. Will from New Haven
doesn't see it like that. What can I say? God made dumb asses too.
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BeaForoni
Can't find God if you don't look for it.
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mo_charles
> > That's ok, and as long as I know what motivates them it is all harmless.
> > But whereas they are fucking around, I am serious. And they know I'm
> > serious. Will from New Haven talks about not having evidence of God's
> > existence. But I have the same evidence he does. I see evidence of God's
> > work all around me, every minute of every day. Will from New Haven
> > doesn't see it like that. What can I say? God made dumb asses too.
>
any atheists unheard from?
mo_charles
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VegasJerry
Or even if you do look.
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Pepe Papon
<mark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Aug 25, 1:03 pm, BillB <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
>> On 25/08/2011 10:30 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
>>
>> > You're no Penn Gillette.
>>
>> Most definitely not. He is a blasphemous atheist and a libertarian
>> wingnut. Those are characteristics most commonly found in people with
>> IQs in the 100-110 range. Actually, that pretty much describes you too,
>> doesn't it? Maybe you're Penn Gillette.
>
>LOL!! This is so Beldin'ish... as I've tried to point out before, you
>HAVE to be his father, the pics show a likeness, the posting style is
>the same although admittedly yours is more sophisticated, these two
>are related and the father/son thing just fits!!
Now all we need is to identify the holy ghost.
Pepe Papon
wrote:
>On Aug 25 2011 11:03 AM, BillB wrote:
>
>> On 25/08/2011 10:30 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
>>
>> > You're no Penn Gillette.
>>
>> Most definitely not. He is a blasphemous atheist and a libertarian
>> wingnut. Those are characteristics most commonly found in people with
>> IQs in the 100-110 range. Actually, that pretty much describes you too,
>> doesn't it? Maybe you're Penn Gillette.
>
>Holly shit! maybe I'M Penn Gillette!
>
>
>Penn 'n Vegas
If you could just raise that IQ score 10 points or so.
Pepe Papon
<a52...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>On Aug 25 2011 2:48 PM, Robert Ladd wrote:
>
>> Yeah, one atheist out promoting atheism, I can see where it would bother
>> you. No one is promoting religion in atheist's faces at all.
>>
>
>I'd like to see Penn Jillette perform some of his magic when he is
>roasting his chestnuts on an open fire for eternity and see if he can
>escape like Houdini, that will be some fucking trick.
That loving God is going to send us to Hell for eternity for not
figuring out which is the One True Religion? Such Fatherly love!
At least he'll provide an infinite supply of chestnuts.
pltr...@xhost.org
>atheists just can't shut their mouths about their faith; it's impossible
>for them. a lot of religious nuts moralize, but they've got shit on the
>atheists proselytizing.
That's interesting. Penn Jillette is the only atheist I've ever heard
proselytizing vocally in my life. People like Dawkins and Hitchins, you have to
seek out in print.
-- Larry
fffurken1
I don't really want to get involved in this thread poltergeist but please
tell mo to tell Paul that he see's communists and Al Qaeda and now
atheists everywhere!
LOL! What a fucking idiot.
Thanks.
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Popinjay
>
> I don't really want to get involved in this thread poltergeist but please
> tell mo to tell Paul that he see's communists and Al Qaeda and now
> atheists everywhere!
>
> LOL! What a fucking idiot.
>
Let's review.
1. Martin Luther King = communist. FACT!
2. Libyan rebels = Al Queda FACT!
3. Penn Jillette = atheist. FACT!
4. Fucking idiot = fffurken FACT!
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fffurken1
> On Aug 26 2011 3:10 PM, fffurken1 wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't really want to get involved in this thread poltergeist but please
> > tell mo to tell Paul that he see's communists and Al Qaeda and now
> > atheists everywhere!
> >
> > LOL! What a fucking idiot.
> >
>
>
> Let's review.
>
> 1. Martin Luther King = communist. FACT!
>
> 2. Libyan rebels = Al Queda FACT!
>
> 3. Penn Jillette = atheist. FACT!
>
>
> 4. Fucking idiot = fffurken FACT!
I don't even know who the dude is. I assume he's an atheist, I assume he's
a loudmouth, get over it!
As for the rest, get real.
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David Monaghan
wrote:
>I'd like to see Penn Jillette perform some of his magic when he is
>roasting his chestnuts on an open fire for eternity and see if he can
>escape like Houdini, that will be some fucking trick.
You wouldn't, you know...
DaveM
BeaForoni
>
>
> Let's review.
>
> 1. Martin Luther King = communist. FACT!
>
Not sure by what you mean, communist. I suppose it is a bad word you
learned as a child and hang on people you don't like.
As far as Rev King being someone you don't like, remember that the 60's
were a time of turmoil, and black people were looking for a leader. They
could have gone with Elijah Muhammad. If they would have, things would be
much different.
"Accept your place in the sun as it was originally before the creation of
this world . . . The black man is the first and last, maker and owner of
the universe."
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Popinjay
>
> As for the rest, get real.
>
No, YOU get real! Martin Luther King was SURROUNDED by communists! Here
he is at the infamous Highlander Communist School.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/king_jr-communist_school.jpg
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Popinjay
> Not sure by what you mean, communist. I suppose it is a bad word you
> learned as a child and hang on people you don't like.
>
Let me clear it up for you what communist means, since you apparently were
sleeping through the first 60 years of your life.
Communism MURDERED over a 100,000,000 million human beings in the last
century! Is that enough of a reason for me not to like communism? What
the fuck is wrong with people like you and Chris Robin and Opie Manager
and Iceman?
Can you or anyone else on this newsgroup think of ONE example where the
people did not live in absolute misery wherever communism existed? Even
ONE? Why are you people so soft on a system that has caused so much
misery?
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HoneyMonster
> Communism MURDERED over a 100,000,000 million human beings
Wow. That's a pretty large number. I did not realise there had ever been
that many on the planet. I thought there were only about 7 billion. Maybe
that's how few are left left after the commie killing spree. Just goes to
show.
Clave
news:00jli8x...@recgroups.com...
> On Aug 26 2011 3:10 PM, fffurken1 wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't really want to get involved in this thread poltergeist but please
>> tell mo to tell Paul that he see's communists and Al Qaeda and now
>> atheists everywhere!
>>
>> LOL! What a fucking idiot.
>>
>
>
> Let's review.
>
> 1. Martin Luther King = communist. FACT!
Pop-Tard sees Bolsheviks in his soup. FACT!
Jim
BeaForoni
> Can you or anyone else on this newsgroup think of ONE example where the
> people did not live in absolute misery wherever communism existed?
Indian reservations? Uh... no.
Inner city slums? Uh ... no.
Slave camps, chain gangs and American prisons? No?
How about "Shock and Awed" Baghdad? No?
Well, how about Aprtheid South Africa? No ?
Haiti?
Central America?
Viet Nam, 1961 to 1974 ?
Cambodia and Laos at that time?
I thought the USSR won WWII ? Am I wrong?
People dying of starvation because they can't afford food?
Industrial accidents because capitalists cut corners to make a profit.
Here is a list of famines caused in India by British Capitalists. It
gives a number of 85 million dead due to Capitalism.
http://jambudveep.wordpress.com/2010/12/12/appendix-i-breakup-of-the-famine-death-total-with-a-list-of-good-books-on-the-subject/
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fffurken1
> On Aug 26 2011 3:30 PM, fffurken1 wrote:
>
> >
> > As for the rest, get real.
> >
>
>
> No, YOU get real! Martin Luther King was SURROUNDED by communists! Here
> he is at the infamous Highlander Communist School.
Oh, SURROUNDED by communists. Well that's a little different, isn't it
numbnuts.
I dunno Paul, national holiday justified or not, he will always have a
historic and most people would consider inspirational part to play in the
civil rights movement.
It even effected Irish folks enough to write a song about it many years
later.
Here's a bunch of them singing about him and his assassination -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHcP4MWABGY&ob=av2e
PS. I really am not that much of a U2 fan!
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Patti Beadles
John the Savage <savag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>If Christianity is true, I believe it would be every Christian's duty to
>murder young children, especially your own!
I'm not buying your logic, but I'm currently about halfway through
Penn's book "God, No". He starts it with an interesting gambit:
If you're Christian, and God spoke to you and told you to kill your
child, would you do it? If the answer is no, then you're not really
a Christian.
-Patti
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Patti Beadles, Oakland, CA |
pattib~pattib.org | All religions are equally
http://www.pattib.org/ | ludicrous, and should be ridiculed
http://stopshootingauto.com | as often as possible. C. Bond
Patti Beadles
Popinjay <a52...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>This fat fuck is so MILITANT about being an atheist. He's almost
>religious about it.
Yeah, it really sucks when someone who is smarter than you
doesn't agree with you, doesn't it?
Are you just as sick of Christians who evangelize? If not, what's
the difference?
Popinjay
>
> I dunno Paul, national holiday justified or not, he will always have a
> historic and most people would consider inspirational part to play in the
> civil rights movement.
>
> It even effected Irish folks enough to write a song about it many years
> later.
>
> Here's a bunch of them singing about him and his assassination -
>
Oh, what a big surprise, a fucking rock group, a bunch of leftwing
degenerate rock musicians are glorifying a fucking communist icon.
I susppose now you're going to tell me that the friggin IRA assholes
aren't communist?
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John the Savage
> In article<lf6dnURG_tlDWsrT...@giganews.com>,
> John the Savage<savag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If Christianity is true, I believe it would be every Christian's duty to
>> murder young children, especially your own!
>
> I'm not buying your logic, but I'm currently about halfway through
> Penn's book "God, No". He starts it with an interesting gambit:
>
> If you're Christian, and God spoke to you and told you to kill your
> child, would you do it? If the answer is no, then you're not really
> a Christian.
>
Uhh, this "gambit" is sort of old. You know, God asked Abraham to
sacrifice his son Isaac, just as one final test. Then he stops him when
the axe is lifted, about to strike a death blow, and announces, "Just a
test!!" (in some ancient language) I guess you missed that day in
Sunday School?
Besides that, what's wrong with me logic? Simple questions for
Christians, beginning with this hypothetical.
Imagine I am a zealous Christian, and a truly selfless parent. My
child's welfare is the most important thing in the universe. Nothing
else matters, comparatively. Something many parents would agree with!
I kill my child at the age of 4 months, believing I'm guaranteeing my
child eternal life in heaven. The questions for Christians --
(1) Have I sinned? -- surely they'll say yes, and maybe I'm going to
hell forever, but..
(2) Does my child go to heaven? -- surely, he does.
(3) Were my child's chances of going to heaven something less than 100%,
if he was allowed to live out his full life in sinful America? You had
better believe it, I'd think.
(4) HAVEN'T I DONE AN AWESOME THING FOR MY 4 MONTH OLD SON? Why have
none of you Christians ever taken this noble, selfless step to ensure
eternal heavenly life for your offspring? DO YOU NOT BELIEVE? Or
you're just selfish pricks?
Bradley K. Sherman
>
>Communism MURDERED over a 100,000,000 million human beings in the last
>century! Is that enough of a reason for me not to like communism? What
That's nearly as many as George W. Bush MURDERED before breakfast
each day.
--bks
Popinjay
> On Aug 26 2011 5:06 PM, Popinjay wrote:
>
> > Can you or anyone else on this newsgroup think of ONE example where the
> > people did not live in absolute misery wherever communism existed?
>
> Indian reservations? Uh... no.
>
> Inner city slums? Uh ... no.
>
> Slave camps, chain gangs and American prisons? No?
>
> How about "Shock and Awed" Baghdad? No?
>
> Well, how about Aprtheid South Africa? No ?
>
> Haiti?
>
> Central America?
>
> Viet Nam, 1961 to 1974 ?
>
> Cambodia and Laos at that time?
>
> I thought the USSR won WWII ? Am I wrong?
>
> People dying of starvation because they can't afford food?
>
> Industrial accidents because capitalists cut corners to make a profit.
>
Can you read fucking English? Is this what I asked about?
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Popinjay
>
> I'm not buying your logic, but I'm currently about halfway through
> Penn's book "God, No". He starts it with an interesting gambit:
>
> If you're Christian, and God spoke to you and told you to kill your
> child, would you do it? If the answer is no, then you're not really
> a Christian.
>
Oh, that is such a deep argument. So cerebral.
What if God told you that no matter what He says to do, don't do it?
Would you do that?
Wow, heavy, man.
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fffurken1
> Oh, what a big surprise, a fucking rock group, a bunch of leftwing
> degenerate rock musicians are glorifying a fucking communist icon.
>
> I susppose now you're going to tell me that the friggin IRA assholes
> aren't communist?
This one's for Irish Mike -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KusYkIiCws
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Popinjay
> In article <rs6ii8x...@recgroups.com>,
> Popinjay <a52...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >This fat fuck is so MILITANT about being an atheist. He's almost
> >religious about it.
>
> Yeah, it really sucks when someone who is smarter than you
> doesn't agree with you, doesn't it?
>
I don't think the disagreeing part is what sucks. What sucks is that they
are so arrogant that they think they are smarter than God. I wouldn't
want to be THAT smart.
Anyway, it's a good thing for Penn Jillete that I am not God. I would be
much less forgiving and probably would have already smited that
mutherfucker a long time ago. I like Teller, though.
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– David Rockefeller (Chairman, Chase Manhattan Bank)
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David Monaghan
wrote:
>On 8/26/2011 7:24 PM, Patti Beadles wrote:
>> In article<lf6dnURG_tlDWsrT...@giganews.com>,
>> John the Savage<savag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If Christianity is true, I believe it would be every Christian's duty to
>>> murder young children, especially your own!
>>
>> I'm not buying your logic, but I'm currently about halfway through
>> Penn's book "God, No". He starts it with an interesting gambit:
>>
>> If you're Christian, and God spoke to you and told you to kill your
>> child, would you do it? If the answer is no, then you're not really
>> a Christian.
>>
>
>Uhh, this "gambit" is sort of old. You know, God asked Abraham to
>sacrifice his son Isaac, just as one final test. Then he stops him when
>the axe is lifted, about to strike a death blow, and announces, "Just a
>test!!" (in some ancient language) I guess you missed that day in
>Sunday School?
I think the problem is harder than that: Why should mortal man be able to
distinguish between divine good and evil when he can be fooled so easily by
his fellow man. What if God isn't God, but Satan in disguise? Would you be
excused an evil act if you truly believed you were following God's commands,
and would you be condemned for disobeying God, if you suspected his id was
forged?
DaveM
David Monaghan
wrote:
Because he keeps his mouth shut?
DaveM
Tim Norfolk
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:39:49 -0700, "mo_charles" <harrybal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >atheists just can't shut their mouths about their faith; it's impossible
> >for them. a lot of religious nuts moralize, but they've got shit on the
> >atheists proselytizing.
>
> That's interesting. Penn Jillette is the only atheist I've ever heard
> proselytizing vocally in my life. People like Dawkins and Hitchins, you have to
> seek out in print.
>
> -- Larry
No you don't, and I've talked with both.
Tim Norfolk
> On Aug 26 2011 4:25 PM, Patti Beadles wrote:
>
> > Popinjay <a52f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> > >This fat fuck is so MILITANT about being an atheist. He's almost
> > >religious about it.
>
> > Yeah, it really sucks when someone who is smarter than you
> > doesn't agree with you, doesn't it?
>
> I don't think the disagreeing part is what sucks. What sucks is that they
> are so arrogant that they think they are smarter than God. I wouldn't
> want to be THAT smart.
>
> Anyway, it's a good thing for Penn Jillete that I am not God. I would be
> much less forgiving and probably would have already smited that
> mutherfucker a long time ago. I like Teller, though.
>
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I want to see some well-directed smitings. Nothing like that to
restore the faith.
Tim Norfolk
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:22:35 -0700, "Popinjay" <a52f...@webnntp.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Aug 26 2011 4:25 PM, Patti Beadles wrote:
>
> >> Popinjay <a52f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> >This fat fuck is so MILITANT about being an atheist. He's almost
> >> >religious about it.
>
> >> Yeah, it really sucks when someone who is smarter than you
> >> doesn't agree with you, doesn't it?
>
> >I don't think the disagreeing part is what sucks. What sucks is that they
> >are so arrogant that they think they are smarter than God. I wouldn't
> >want to be THAT smart.
>
> >Anyway, it's a good thing for Penn Jillete that I am not God. I would be
> >much less forgiving and probably would have already smited that
> >mutherfucker a long time ago. I like Teller, though.
>
> Because he keeps his mouth shut?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've met both of them too, and he doesn't in public.
RichD
> I'd like to see Penn Jillette perform some of his magic when he is
> roasting his chestnuts on an open fire for eternity and see if he can
> escape like Houdini, that will be some fucking trick.
Only atheists wil go to heaven.
The Lord is testing you, PJ, and you flunked -
--
Rich
brewmaster
Not really...we had an American hero named Joseph McCarthy to help us
through a difficult and dangerous period. Not so many people want
communism now that they know what it is like.
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Pepe Papon
This reminds me of the scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail where
King Arthur talks directly to God. The arrogant ones are people like
Paul who assume they know what God wants.
Pepe Papon
>Can you or anyone else on this newsgroup think of ONE example where the
>people did not live in absolute misery wherever communism existed? Even
>ONE?
Let me guess - anyone who answers "yes" is clearly a commie who
doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
Pepe Papon
<savag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>You'd have to be a total lunatic to risk it. I understand, God might
>judge you harshly, but it is the ultimate sacrifice to protect the
>children -- your own children -- from eternal damnation. And you can!
>Just murder them before they become old enough to fuck it up!
Would God really judge you harshly knowing that you were acting in the
best interests of your children? And even if he did, you can confess
your sins and receive forgiveness as long as you acknowledge Jesus
Christ as your personal savior.
Pepe Papon
<a52...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>But whereas they are fucking around, I am serious. And they know I'm
>serious.
That's what makes it so funny.
Pepe Papon
The problem is hard only if you question your faith. True believers
have no such problem. They *know* the truth. It's in the Bible.
Period.
bo dark
> In article <lf6dnURG_tlDWsrTnZ2dnUVZ_i2dn...@giganews.com>,
************************************************************************************
Think Penn has his religions mixed up , he must be using Abraham as an
example . There is no example of God asking such a thing but once , a
unique situation . Penn knows who butters his bread and his stage
partner is Jewish. Never seen Talmudic Judaism used as examples or
mocked by the comedian/atheist types.
Clave
news:608h5791sdfqo12h5...@4ax.com...
<...>
> The problem is hard only if you question your faith. True believers
> have no such problem. They *know* the truth. It's in the Bible.
> Period.
Actually, they have certainty, not knowledge.
Many of them are unaware there's a difference though.
Jim
Popinjay
I'm all ears, fuck face. Tell me which example of living under communism
did the population enjoy?
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Popinjay
>
> Think Penn has his religions mixed up , he must be using Abraham as an
> example . There is no example of God asking such a thing but once , a
> unique situation . Penn knows who butters his bread and his stage
> partner is Jewish. Never seen Talmudic Judaism used as examples or
> mocked by the comedian/atheist types.
That's pretty interesting. Why doesn't Patti the atheist talk shit about
the GOD that Jews believe in? It's the same GOD that Christians believe
in. These phony bigots are just anti-CHRISTIAN! It's not so much
anti-God, they're anti-CHRISTIAN. They don't like CHRISTIANS. Jews are
ok, though, but they don't like CHRISTIANS!
How about Moslems? Does Penn Jillette or Patti Beadles have a problem
with ALLAH? If they do, I've never seen them squawking about it.
Bo has posted the best post in this whole thread. When is Penn Jillette
going to start traveling the interview circuit and ridicule JEWS? It will
never happen.
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David Monaghan
wrote:
Uh, Paul:
Jewish God = Christian God = Moslem God. If God exists, he/she/it is going
to be angered no matter which version of themself you mock. It's only the
faithful who miss that important point
DaveM
brewmaster
China in 2011 appears to be doing ok (after Mao killed his millions), but
that's the only one I can think of
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brewmaster
God said to Abraham "kill me a son"
Abe said "God you gotta be puttin' me on"
God said "no"
Abe said "what?"
God said "you can do what you want Abe, but, next time you see me coming
you better run"
Abe said "where do you want this killing done?"
God said <exercise left for rgp viewer>
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brewmaster
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 12:56:56 -0700, "VegasJerry" <jer...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 25 2011 11:03 AM, BillB wrote:
> >
> >> On 25/08/2011 10:30 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
> >>
> >> > You're no Penn Gillette.
> >>
> >> Most definitely not. He is a blasphemous atheist and a libertarian
> >> wingnut. Those are characteristics most commonly found in people with
> >> IQs in the 100-110 range. Actually, that pretty much describes you too,
> >> doesn't it? Maybe you're Penn Gillette.
> >
> >Holly shit! maybe I'M Penn Gillette!
> >
> >
> >Penn 'n Vegas
>
> If you could just raise that IQ score 10 points or so.
His IQ goes to 11!
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brewmaster
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 12:16:39 -0700 (PDT), Mark Doubt
> <mark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 25, 1:03 pm, BillB <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
> >> On 25/08/2011 10:30 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
> >>
> >> > You're no Penn Gillette.
> >>
> >> Most definitely not. He is a blasphemous atheist and a libertarian
> >> wingnut. Those are characteristics most commonly found in people with
> >> IQs in the 100-110 range. Actually, that pretty much describes you too,
> >> doesn't it? Maybe you're Penn Gillette.
> >
> >LOL!! This is so Beldin'ish... as I've tried to point out before, you
> >HAVE to be his father, the pics show a likeness, the posting style is
> >the same although admittedly yours is more sophisticated, these two
> >are related and the father/son thing just fits!!
>
> Now all we need is to identify the holy ghost.
When I attended a Church of England primary school I was taught that
"father, son, and holy ghost" (aka the Trinity) are one and the same.
i.e. all 3 are the same entity (although I think the Catholics believe
they are separate)
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brewmaster
I saw their show in Vegas circa 1996 and I thought it was pretty good. I
had no idea Penn was a vocal atheist until this thread. Either a) I live
under a rock or b) Paul is vastly overstating Penn's in-your-face-ness.
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brewmaster
Wouldn't it suck to kill your children and have that heartache in life
only to discover that there is only nothingness after death. Oh wait, you
wouldn't discover that would you.
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brewmaster
> On Aug 25 2011 1:14 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
>
> > On Aug 25, 1:45 pm, Wilhelm Kuhlmann <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 25, 8:38 am, "Popinjay" <a52f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am so fucking sick of Penn Jillette!
> > > > This fat fuck is so MILITANT about being an atheist. He's almost
> > > > religious about it.
> > >
> > > Another blasphemous atheist???
> > >
> > > Fuck him!
> > >
> > > William Coleman (ramashiva)
> >
> > Interesting question. You can't be a heretic as an atheist. Can you
> > blaspheme?
>
>
> "Blasphemy is irreverence[1] toward holy personages, religious artifacts,
> customs, and beliefs."
>
> I would think most atheists would be irreverent toward holy personages,
> religious artifacts, customs, and beliefs.
Hmmm..I dunno about that. I'm atheist and I respect other's beliefs and
don't feel the need to denigrate them. I actually think about whether
what I say will offend a religious person before I speak (most of the
time...sometimes I'm drunk).
>
> Michael
>
> -----------------
> "> phlash
> On your circle jerk k00l kidz email list. Should be disqualified for
> that, but I'll give him a pass because he is smart." - ramashiva,
> 8/22/2010
>
> "Hitler has already been forgiven, but you have not." - Reptillian AKA
> Igotskillz, 4/6/2011
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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brewmaster
Jews: still waiting for the Messiah
Christians: believe Jesus is the Messiah
Muslims: believe the Messiah has come twice (Mohammed should do porn!)
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Travel A
all evens out.
On a more serious note, (the above was a humorous comment) the left wing
is using "a Jillette" to give Atheists "exposure." Ya know, that left
wing "public awareness" agitprop crap they always use when they're
beginning a new attack-angle on American society; in this case, it's an
attack on religion again.
They start out with a seemingly harmless comic type, "just talking about
himself," but the idea is to get the public softened-up to hearing about
Atheists' "views:" which is anti-religion, of course, but Jillette makes
it sound like fun.
Then, the ACLU will be representing Atheists in attack-law suits against
religion before left-wing activist judges. With a rigged jury, of
course.
Popinjay
>
> China in 2011 appears to be doing ok (after Mao killed his millions), but
> that's the only one I can think of
>
Oh really? Please tell that to the worker who makes $40 a month! Or the
women who are FORCED to have abortions. Or the persecuted Buddhists, or
the people who try to ESCAPE from China in ship containers. Or the
millions of people imprisoned for minor crimes, even executed for
misdemeanors. Try writing a column critical of the Communist Party and
see what happens there. Or the restricted use of the internet, the
state-controlled press. The total government control over every aspect of
their lives.
China sounds like a wonderful place. It is a perfect prototype for what
our country is going to become.
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brewmaster
Well they are 1 of the only few remaining communist countries, and of the
few left, they seem to be doing the best (they have lots of money anyway).
What other commie countries are there, Cuba, Vietnam, Korea? All those
suck ass.
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Popinjay
>
> Uh, Paul:
>
> Jewish God = Christian God = Moslem God. If God exists, he/she/it is going
> to be angered no matter which version of themself you mock. It's only the
> faithful who miss that important point
>
Uhh, I think I SAID that already.
But any objective person would recognize that the general attack on
religion by people like Patti Beadles or Penn Jillete is directed against
CHRISTIANS! If I am wrong, then please direct me to where Patti Beadles
has ever gotten on her soap box about Jews. I'll pay you a dollar for
every time she has done it. But you cannot show me that because she has
never done it. However, you give ME a dollar for every time she has
joined in a thread where Christianity is being attacked. I use PayPal,
thanks.
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fffurken1
> Hmmm..I dunno about that. I'm atheist and I respect other's beliefs and
> don't feel the need to denigrate them. I actually think about whether
> what I say will offend a religious person before I speak (most of the
> time...sometimes I'm drunk).
That's probably a good idea.
I always remeber during a rest bite for my mother at home (she was dying
of cancer at the time) we were chatting, my mother, one of her friends and
myself. My mother was religious and was taking a lot of solace in that in
her impending death. Anyway, my mother and her friend were talking about
God and I just unthinkingly made some stupid, mocking comment that
believing in God was about the same as believing in Santa Claus.
It was like one of those situations where you hear what you just said with
a 1 second time delay and I just stopped dead in my tracks with
realisation. My mother (an emotionally unstable person as it was) burst
into tears.
That happened 8 years ago. On so many occassions since I've wished so
fucking much that I could take it back. But I can't.
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brewmaster
I must be viewing atheism wrong then. I view myself as atheist, because,
I don't believe there is a god or higher power (hence a-theist). However,
I don't pass judgement on anybody else's belief's, and I don't feel the
need or even desire to try to convince people to not believe what they
want to. In other words, I don't think all atheists are "anti-religion".
I don't even think atheist means that.
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brewmaster
Yeah, that's what I mean.
On a completely unrelated note about mother's death....
I have heart problems, and the first occurrence of such years ago landed
me in the emergency room. My mother called that night when I was home to
ask how I was, and I didn't want to talk about it, so I let it go to the
machine. At 6 am the next morning my father called to tell me my mother
had died during the night. I have always felt that had I answered that
call perhaps she would have gone to be earlier, or later, or worrying
less, or something, and might have lived a bit longer.
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Re: Is anyone else as sick of Penn Jillette as I am?
Group: rec.gambling.poker
Date: Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 4:06pm
From: Popinjay <a52...@webnntp.invalid>
On Aug 26 2011 3:59 PM, BeaForoni wrote:
Not sure by what you mean, communist. I suppose it is a bad word you
learned as a child and hang on people you don't like.
Let me clear it up for you what communist means, since you apparently
were sleeping through the first 60 years of your life.
Communism MURDERED over a 100,000,000 million human beings in the last
century! Is that enough of a reason for me not to like communism? What
the fuck is wrong with people like you and Chris Robin and Opie Manager
and Iceman?
Can you or anyone else on this newsgroup think of ONE example where the
people did not live in absolute misery wherever communism existed? Even
ONE? Why are you people so soft on a system that has caused so much
misery?
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I wrote:
Because they think that they'll get to be one of the "Brownshirts" and
get to put Christians in camps.
Popinjay
>
> Well they are 1 of the only few remaining communist countries, and of the
> few left, they seem to be doing the best (they have lots of money anyway).
> What other commie countries are there, Cuba, Vietnam, Korea? All those
> suck ass.
>
Plenty others. Plenty you generally don't hear about. Start with the
African continent, and you'll find almost every country there is
communist. Mozambique, Angola, Zimbabwe, etc. No communist country has
the word "communism" in its title. But look at who is running the show,
who controls the government, the economy, the means of production.
Suriname is communist, but I'll give you a dollar for every RGPer who can
identify Suriname on the map.
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Travel A
Re: Is anyone else as sick of Penn Jillette as I am?
Group: rec.gambling.poker
From: Pepe Papon <hitme...@mindspring.com>
...................................................................
I wrote:
Hey Poupon, how come you never snark-ridicule The Burning Bush, or Moses
parting the sea?
Travel A
Re: Is anyone else as sick of Penn Jillette as I am?
Group: rec.gambling.poker
From: brewmaster <a1...@webnntp.invalid>
I wrote:
It's not about you, it's about power politics. It's a trap to even
discuss religion on this issue. It's all about the left wing trying to
destroy religion in this country to gain more control: that's the issue,
not religion itself.
Popinjay
> Either a) I live
> under a rock or b) Paul is vastly overstating Penn's in-your-face-ness.
>
a.)
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