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Possible Collusion on Full Tilt (Perry Friedman, please read)

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Omaholic

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Dec 6, 2005, 11:10:06 PM12/6/05
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FYI, I don't know what limits people play on FTP, but I believe
samsonite433 and MourningHeat23 are colluding in the shorthanded 15-30
holdem game. If you happen to see them online, you will probably want
to avoid them.

Below is a copy of the email I sent to support. Perry, if you are
around to read this, can you make sure it is properly investigated?

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Dear Support,

I am writing to report a case of suspected collusion involving
samsonite433 and MourningHeat23.

I have been playing online poker since the early days of Planet Poker,
and I have only made one other report of collusion. I trust you will
seriously investigate this matter.

I was playing on table Maryland (6 max 15-30 holdem) when MourningHeat
posted saying come help start a new table at Redwood, where he was
sitting with samsonite.

I sat and played for a while, and when the game filled up they took
off.

You should closely investigate the hand histories from when this table
began playing at about 7:30 pm pacific. Of particular interest is hand
number 324147890, where MourningHeat jammed the pot with 36s preflop
and on a gutshot draw postflop when his partner had JJ (I had TT). I'm
sure MourningHeat would have mucked on the river but I unexpectedly
checked on the end.

Another hand that may be of interest is no. 324158825, although I'm not
sure what MourningHeat held. Once again his partner had JJ, and I had
a flush draw. The pot was jammed preflop, but I don't know what
MourningHeat held so I don't know if it is a mere coincidence, although
I don't believe it is. During the hand MourningHeat was raised and he
said "you guys caught me" and folded.

It may also be worthwhile to note that after the players left, one
other player at the table also stated that he felt the two were
colluding.

I am sure that you are as interested as I am in making sure your site
is free of collusion. As I am sure you are aware, I play on your site
in trust that I am safe from this kind of danger. As such, I would
appreciate it if you investigate this matter and, if you find that
collusion has in fact taken place, I would appreciate being made whole.

Please feel free to contact me by email or at 818-481-1144 if you have
any questions.

Thanks,
Omaholic

Eric802

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Dec 6, 2005, 11:21:24 PM12/6/05
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I'm sure the semi-trained chimps in FTP support will get right on it.

And the semi-trained chimps on RGP will soon be calling you all night long.

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Necron99

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Dec 6, 2005, 11:41:18 PM12/6/05
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On Dec 7 2005 3:21 PM, Eric802 wrote:

> I'm sure the semi-trained chimps in FTP support will get right on it.

I take offence to that comment, I know many of them personally.
Your ill conceived and uneducated comments make a mockery of their dedication to
their task, dedication which, I might add, can be viewed here.
http://pokeromnibus.blogspot.com/


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FreakPoker

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Dec 7, 2005, 12:42:00 AM12/7/05
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Get a life bro

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Kevin Grant

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Dec 7, 2005, 12:44:37 AM12/7/05
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That was fucking hilarious

On Dec 6 2005 11:41 PM, Necron99 wrote:

> On Dec 7 2005 3:21 PM, Eric802 wrote:
>
> > I'm sure the semi-trained chimps in FTP support will get right on it.
>
> I take offence to that comment, I know many of them personally.
> Your ill conceived and uneducated comments make a mockery of their dedication
> to
> their task, dedication which, I might add, can be viewed here.
> http://pokeromnibus.blogspot.com/
>
>
>

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FtWorthKid

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Dec 7, 2005, 4:53:13 PM12/7/05
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On Dec 6 2005 8:41 PM, Necron99 wrote:

> On Dec 7 2005 3:21 PM, Eric802 wrote:
>
> > I'm sure the semi-trained chimps in FTP support will get right on it.
>
> I take offence to that comment, I know many of them personally.
> Your ill conceived and uneducated comments make a mockery of their dedication


> to
> their task, dedication which, I might add, can be viewed here.
> http://pokeromnibus.blogspot.com/
>

> Now THAT'S funny, I don't care who you are.....
>

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Necron99

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Dec 7, 2005, 5:01:33 PM12/7/05
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I had been saving that up, seems to have been wasted on this thread, perhaps it
was a timing issue
*sigh*

On Dec 8 2005 8:53 AM, FtWorthKid wrote:

>
> On Dec 6 2005 8:41 PM, Necron99 wrote:
>
> > On Dec 7 2005 3:21 PM, Eric802 wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sure the semi-trained chimps in FTP support will get right on it.
> >
> > I take offence to that comment, I know many of them personally.
> > Your ill conceived and uneducated comments make a mockery of their
> > dedication
>
>
> > to
> > their task, dedication which, I might add, can be viewed here.
> > http://pokeromnibus.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Now THAT'S funny, I don't care who you are.....
> >
>
>

** insert witty/funny original comment **

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Omaholic

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Dec 7, 2005, 6:44:05 PM12/7/05
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Well I appreciated it at least. :)

Omaholic

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Dec 8, 2005, 3:53:46 AM12/8/05
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I am pleased to report that FTP's investigation department has come
through big time. Here is their response:

We are writing in response to your request for investigation into
possible collusion by players MourningHeat23 and samsonite433.

After a thorough investigation of these two players, it has become very

clear that:

a) they know each other and play together at the same tables often; and
b) in our opinion, they were indeed colluding together in hand numbers
324147890 and 324158825, the two hands that you brought to our
attention.

Further investigation of all hands during that session at that table
revealed that these were the only two hands during which these two
players colluded against you and cost you any money.

As a result of our findings, we have permanently banned both players
from Full Tilt Poker, and have reimbursed you, from the accounts of the

guilty players, all funds that you contributed to the pot in hand
numbers 324147890 and 324158825. A credit of $285.00 will be made to
your Full Tilt account within 24 hours.

We take all requests for investigation very seriously at Full Tilt
Poker. As we're sure you are well aware, our reputation and our
business depends on maintaining an environment in which the safety and
comfort of our players is not compromised in any way; your efforts in
assisting us in our objective are appreciated more than you know. Our
most effective weapon in the battle against cheating and collusion of
any type is the ongoing vigilance of our players; we cannot thank you
enough for your help.

Best of luck at the tables, and please don't hesitate to contact us if
we can be of any further assistance.


Regards,

Mike
Team Full Tilt

Necron99

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Dec 8, 2005, 4:38:01 AM12/8/05
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On Dec 8 2005 7:53 PM, Omaholic wrote:

> I am pleased to report that FTP's investigation department has come
> through big time. Here is their response:
>

Images of this result in action are available here
http://pokeromnibus.blogspot.com/


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igotskillz com

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Dec 11, 2005, 4:12:36 PM12/11/05
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Nice


Thank YOU

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