Wendeen Eolis Rat
dave keiser
job Mike
Some of your insites were really good. A request, next time have Linda
Johnson, instead of Wendeen the New York rat that had the Mayfair
raided and closed just because the players refused to play with her. I
grew up in the catskills and played at the Mayfair off and on for 25
years. It was a famous club that charged a fee rather than rake. I'd
stop in to see lifelong friends. This is gone because she had a bad
personality, people didn't like her and she got her payback. Not only
gamble but a social place for poker players. You got money but not a
clue on how to be a decent human being. Tho world does not revolve
around your sorry ass. dave
Gary Carson
>I liked TOC final table on my computer. Good job Mark, you did a
great
>job Mike
>Some of your insites were really good. A request, next time have
Linda
>Johnson, instead of Wendeen the New York rat that had the Mayfair
>raided and closed just because the players refused to play with her.
I
>grew up in the catskills and played at the Mayfair off and on for 25
>years. It was a famous club that charged a fee rather than rake. I'd
>stop in to see lifelong friends.
It was a famous club that any rational observer could see had become a
public cardroom with only a thin pretense as a private club. Had it
This is gone because she had a bad
If the management of the club had not chosen to openly operate an
illegal cardroom it might not have been raided. I don't understand
why that's such a tough concept for some of y'all.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
AuthorAndy
<<Wendeen the New York rat that had the Mayfair
raided and closed just because the players refused to play with her. I
grew up in the catskills and played at the Mayfair off and on for 25
years. It was a famous club that charged a fee rather than rake. I'd
stop in to see lifelong friends. This is gone because she had a bad
personality, people didn't like her and she got her payback. Not only
gamble but a social place for poker players. You got money but not a
clue on how to be a decent human being. Tho world does not revolve
around your sorry ass. >>
This is old false gossip. Wendeen Eolis is person of very high character and
integrity and I consider her a valued friend as well as an asset to the poker
world. Were I a floorman ruling on your post, I would give you a 2-year away
from table penalty for making defamatory false statements that, to someone who
does not know the truth, might sound like facts.
Andy Glazer
Nat Silver
> It was a famous club that any rational observer could see had
> become a public cardroom with only a thin pretense as a private
> operate an illegal cardroom it might not have been raided.
> I don't understand why that's such a tough concept for some
> of y'all.
NYC, maybe, is different from other parts of the country.
(I've also lived in Las Vegas, Nashville, and Hartford.)
There is an extensive patronage system here. Everybody
down the line gets their share. Permit me to go off on a
tangent to give you the flavor of it all. Skip it otherwise.
TANGENT:
For example, there is an acute housing shortage.
If you want to make your house legal for a
tenant, it easily could cost $60,000 for the
extra apartment. So people have plumbers
install fixtures and run lines from a existing
gas meters, etc., without obtaining
expensive permits. Yet it's not the permits
that are the problem! No, once you start down a
legal road, you must bring in an architect, yes
an architect, to draft plans for the new apartment
so that the size of the windows, etc. and other
aspects of the space, comply with law. And not
just any architect, you need an architect, who is
familiar with the local officials, say, in Bronx
(which, in itself, is larger than most all cities)
to speed along the paperwork so that your
apartment is legal before the next millenium.
Then, if ConEd (electric company) repairmen
should show up to read meters or fix something,
they would receive a $500 reward for reporting you.
Next, you would go to court, get into a revolving
door of large fines, unannounced visits to check
if you had a tenant or were still illegal, back to court,
etc. until the apartment is demolished or becomes legal...
Trust me that poker will never be legalized in NY
unless casinos are too. People in high places would
have to be motivated for that to happen, which means
giving them their share, big share, megabucks.
In NYC, there are powerful corporations in competition
for public dollars that have vested interests in conflict
with having local casinos, for example, Trump's properties
in AC and other casinos in AC, racetracks, OTB, maybe
major league baseball, and who knows what other amusement
centers. Some of these interests have super-powerful lobbies.
END OF TANGENT
There may have been "private" clubs where poker was
played. Do you think if I called the police, they would
raid these clubs? Noooo. They would laugh and hang
up or they would say, "Yes sir, we'll look into it, sir."
It takes a powerful person or a person, connected
to the powerful to bring down such an establishment.
There have to be some moneyed interests at work, okay?
RazzO
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PokerDog2001
>raided and closed
Don't be ridiculous. Even the ignoramuses know that Wendeen had nothing to do
with any poker club closing in New York. Dave's post was wrong and mean.
Everyone who wants to know the real story about what happened to poker in NYC
can read it in Poker Digest from last fall.
Wendeen has a lot of juice in this town, so people know she could get action.
She's also the smartest best connected gal you're ever gonna meet. Meanwhile
let me tell you how she used her power for me. She heard my son has Hodgkins
and that he loves football. She got us owner seats for the Giants last year
when everyone was dying to get them.
btw... She and Mike Sexton did a great broadcast and Wendeen mentioned often
that Linda Johnson was part of the team, hard at work at the final table, in
the middle of the TV camera action. Wendeen goes out of her way to give
other people credit as she did often during the broadcast.
PokerDog
Bobby (usually a lurker
HSKINNY
>integrity and I consider her a valued friend as well as an asset to the poker
>world. Were I a floorman ruling on your post, I would give you a 2-year away
>from table penalty for making defamatory false statements that, to someone
>who
>does not know the truth, might sound like facts.
>
>Andy Glazer
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Proves what you know.....nothing. Better keep to writing articles which you
may know a little about rather that giving opinions you know nothing about.
Miketsmithjr
>and
>>integrity and I consider her a valued friend as well as an asset to the
>poker
>>world. Were I a floorman ruling on your post, I would give you a 2-year
>away
>>from table penalty for making defamatory false statements that, to someone
>>who
>>does not know the truth, might sound like facts.
>>
>>Andy Glazer
>From: hsk...@aol.com (HSKINNY)
Proves what you know.....nothing. Better keep to writing articles which you
>may know a little about rather that giving opinions you know nothing about.
Hello Hskinny,
You are a jerk. Andy Glazer is the best reporter we got on the whole poker
planet and I'd go with his judgment about someone he knows before I'd go with
yours or anyone else who hides behind a screen name when attacking people or
just as bad, attack for sport because they have no assets to protect.
Wendeen, some of those people don't like that you are smart and have a life
before and after poker games. Don't pay them any mind.
Mike T
SGelwarg
Glazer...
>Wendeen Eolis is person of very high character and
>integrity and I consider her a valued friend as well as an asset to the poker
>world.
The worst thing about the internet seems to be the propogation of tired old
rumors. Call us when you get some proof. Until then.........
Stuart
BTJohnE
She walks around and talks like she's the grand dame of poker, but she's a
LOSING player [I cashed her out for 2 years], and she's a rude inconsiderate
person. Half the time she has some nasty body odor. She has a scab on the top
of her head that she picks at, then touches the cards with her nasty hands.
Then, she always plays the victim. She is very smart, and can act very sweet,
but deep inside she a mean spirited, lonely woman. On RGP she uses several
different "names" to get her point across. And she was kicked out of the
Mayfair Club & Diamond Club long before the clubs closed.
John Hanley
dave keiser
> Dave Keiser wrote:
>
>
> This is old false gossip. Wendeen Eolis is person of very high character and
> integrity and I consider her a valued friend as well as an asset to the poker
> world. Were I a floorman ruling on your post, I would give you a 2-year away
> from table penalty for making defamatory false statements that, to someone who
> does not know the truth, might sound like facts.
>
> Andy Glazer
I like your writing Andy but you called it wrong. She is a
powerful person in New York and used it for payback. Period. No if
ands or buts. As for the article in poker digest she wrote it to try
to cover her ass. Maby she do a little kissy assy with you cause your
a somebody. Stick to writing current history rather helping a
revisionist change it.
eolis
Hanley's post below is not worthy of him. His penchant to spread false and
mean-spirited gossip is well documented on RGP and his abusive conduct has
been the subject of management warnings and ejection in both private and
public cardrooms. I do not believe decent RGPers want to be saddled with
his unfortunate posts nor will I contribute time with needless point by
point replies to them. . . "BTJohnE" <btj...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010801091727...@ng-dd1.aol.com...
It is well known that John Hanley and I had personal differences when he ran
the Diamond Club. I believe that the vast majority of RGPers agree that
his post above is not worthy-either of him or of a point by point reply.
Rhino53076
i know will leave the game.
FirstLadyOfPoker
those players. They played poker... they didn't play this pussified "smile for
the camera with my website's hat on" crap that I see going on. Do we not just
enjoy the game anymore? Is the playing field really so narrow that we deem it
necessary to have corporate sponsorship to entice new players? Call it
immaturity, ignorance or inexperience but I do feel poker does just fine on
it's own.
And as far as Wendeen... I don't know the facts. I've only heard the
stories... and my thought are... I care not who she is, what she looks like or
what she's done. But this is a free country and I'm allowed to think whatever
I'd like. And I would think more of her, if she didn't find it was so
necessary to defend herself from such "ridiculous" accusations.
PegSmithNow
>...They played poker... they didn't play this pussified...
Is this a new word? I like it. Has anyone notified William Safire?
Peg
BTJohnE
almost anything. You always talk behind peoples back. I'm sick of all the lies
and rumors you spread. If anyone is mean spirited it's you! Wendeen, if your
such a great person, when are you going to pay me the $500 you owe me? When are
you going to pay back the Mayfair? Should I keep on going?
John Hanley
Joel Spencer
I was a Mayfair and Diamond Club player for more than ten years, up
until their closings. The idea that Wendeen is being portrayed as
anything other than the mean spirited, morally bankrupt, abhorrent,
conspiratorial, haughty, person, THAT SHE IS, is crazy. The fact is
that few if any of the people that she has ever played with enjoyed
her presence, and I'm not just talking about her lack of personal
hygiene. Wendeen acts, and probably therefore thinks that she is
superior to everyone. She has done a wonderful job of self promotion,
which has fooled some of the people for some of the time, but I invite
those that know her superficially to take the time to get to know her
to discover the real Wendeen. Oh yeah, Wendeen, by the way, care to
explain why you were barred not only from the Diamond Club but the
Mayfair Club as well?
Kjell Roksvåg
> >...They played poker... they didn't play this pussified...
>
> Is this a new word? I like it.
A recent episode of "Arli$$" used the phrase "the pussification of America."
Nat Silver
> >firstladyofpoker wrote:
> >...They played poker... they didn't play this pussified...
> Is this a new word? I like it. Has anyone notified William Safire?
With one question, you reveal how sheltered you are.
tenseven
He was loud, coarse,cheap and abrasive.(his brother billy is
generous and quiet)(his brother robert is meek as a mouse) He was also
fair, honest and ran as clean a place as can be found. "Decent "
RGPers in NYC miss John Hanley desperately. John Hanley let Wendeen
play on the cuff for 2 years, the diamond club became non smoking at
her insistence (THIS is not bad). He never cheated her or anyone else.
His brother and he bent over backwards for her comfort for at least
two years. She was there 5 nights a week playing many, many hours. In
fact when his brother died she helped organize the visits to his
house.What happened between them and the closing of the DC and the
clover is a matter of gossip and conjecture. What happened at Foxwoods
to cause Johns being barred and what precipitated what is not clear
from the many eye witness accounts. It too is conjecture. John has
spread NO mean spirited gossip, if at all, except about Wendeen. This
I find curious. My personal feelings about wendeen are my business
based on my personal experience. But to attack John Hanley is spurious
and incorrect. Besides soon he will be up to his ass in baby dodo,
dirty diapers, and desetin.
Michael S Mantel
New York City
"eolis" <eo...@eolis.com> wrote in message news:<9k9bm6$9...@dispatch.concentric.net>...
Rhino53076
the lapel of the blue blazer some kind of badge with the inscription New York
Governor's dept(or something to that effect) which Werndeen so proudly
diplayed. I am at the table looking at Wendeen with this "Governors badge",
and I am thinking to myself, "Wow give me a break".... I thought I would relate
this true story to you cause I found it funny (perhaps pathetic) at the time.
kma
[snip]
>But to attack John Hanley is spurious
> and incorrect. Besides soon he will be up to his ass in baby dodo,
> dirty diapers, and desetin.
> Michael S Mantel
> New York City
I'm going to assume that was not intended as a threat.