Ramashiva's Annie Duke Post
Daniel Negreanu
the inner circles of the poker world knows. He goes on to describe a
similar experience to my encounter with her back in 1996. Fascinating
stuff:
Ramashiva wrote:
Well, on one occasion of several when I played at the same table with
Annie,
she was lording it over the table about the fact that she was a doctoral
candidate in linguistics, and I am pretty sure she said University of
Chicago. But that was nine years ago or so. My memory is certainly not
perfect.
I just happen to have been in the linguistics Ph.D. program at the
University of Arizona at one time myself, so I tried to strike up a
conversation with her about linguistics. As soon as she realized she was
in
a conversation with a man who was more intelligent than she was, and better
educated than she was, and who knew more about linguistics than she did,
she
suddenly lost all interest in the conversation and said something to the
effect of "I am here to play poker, not to discuss linguistics." I felt
like saying "Then why did you bring up linguistics, if you did not want to
discuss it?" But I said nothing. It was obvious why she brought up the
subject of linguistics. It was part of her general attitude of
intellectual
superiority over a bunch of stupid, uneducated low-limit holdem players.
I have never said another word to Annie since her rude brusque remark to
me,
but I subsequently played at the same table with her on several occasions,
both at the Mirage and the Horseshoe. I have had ample opportunity to
observe her rude, obnoxious, totally self-centered behavior. If you are
not
a poker celebrity, you do not even exist, as far as Annie is concerned. I
was an eyewitness on the rail, about six feet from Annie, to the 2000 WSOP
incident when she was screaming hysterically about the string bet incident
being the worst thing that had ever happened to her in a tournament.
Several spectators made comments about what a rude obnoxious bitch she was.
I have also observed confirmatory examples of other behavior which Danny
cites, such as her propensity to talk ABOUT other players in their
presence.
If you are going to insult someone, as Annie frequently does, at least
direct your comments to the person you are insulting. After the little
linguistics incident, on another occasion, she talked ABOUT me in a very
insulting and derogatory manner to the other players. This rude behavior
went on for many hours, during which time I was staring holes through her
every time she started talking ABOUT me. She never once made eye contact
with me. One of my friends, who was also in the game, reported that after
I
left, someone asked her who I was. Even though she knew my name, or at
least we had introduced ourselves when we were still on speaking terms, and
had played with me on several occasions, she replied that she had no idea
who I was, and that she had never seen me before in her life.
Like I said, if you are not a poker celebrity, you do not even exist as far
as Annie is concerned, except as an object of derision and ridicule.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
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Gary Carson
wrote:
>In this post, Ramashiva eloquently paints a picture of the Annie Duke
that
>the inner circles of the poker world knows. He goes on to describe a
>similar experience to my encounter with her back in 1996.
Fascinating
>stuff:
What's really fascinating is that 4 years after your encounter you
said one thing about her, now you say something different.
Wherre you lying then, or are you lying now?
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
Can'tHelpMyself
Before you went into the psych ward, you at least were funny. Now, you are
just bitter.
Omar
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j.canz
> In this post, Ramashiva eloquently paints a picture of the Annie Duke that
> the inner circles of the poker world knows. He goes on to describe a
> similar experience to my encounter with her back in 1996. Fascinating
> stuff:
Danny,
In the RPG Supreme Court of Poker, Civil and Civilities Branch,
calling upon Ramashiva for corroboration of your defense is tantamount to
a plea of "no contest".........................
whiskeytown
I think I've figured it out....Daniel was Annie's friend at first cause
he's a bad initial judge of character, and then he got smarter.
To back up my assessment, I point out that Daniel has quoted Ramashiva as
voicing a similiar opinion.
Think I'd just rather stand alone then be supported by Ramashiva in my
arguments...LOL
Ramashiva's a moron who will voice a reluctance to accept a fact as well
documented as the Holocaust just to seem like he's intelligent....Up next,
Ramashiva debates the existance of gravity. He says he has witnesses who
say they never saw proof of gravity, so it must be a reason to keep an
open mind on it...
Bad call, Dan N...almost character assassination by association...LOL
RB
William Coleman
fucking idiot? Are you questioning my veracity or truthfulness? You need
to get a clue. This is the typical idiotic nonsense from the typical
idiotic troll. I am not the issue here. Annie Duke is the issue. Like the
typical anonymous troll, you want to make me the issue, because you do not
want to deal with the real issue.
The real issue is Annie Duke. I am just one of many, many people with
first-hand experiences of Annie Duke who can tell similar stories. Why
don't you want to come to terms with who and what she is?
I don't think you are going to get much support here on RGP for questioning
my truthfulness. In fact, I predict you will get zero support. Even my
bitter enemies will tell you that whatever else I may or may not be, I am
definitely not a liar. Were you around when I published my essay on Doug
Dalton? I made many very damaging statements about Doug in that essay and
to the best of my recollection, no one has ever questioned the truthfulness
of any of my statements about Doug. In fact, the best Doug's supporters
could do to support his lies that I stalked female Mirage employees was to
concoct the famous tree masturbation fantasy. I stated flatly that I had
never stalked any female Mirage poker room employee, or anyone else for that
matter. You don't think that the minions of the Evil Empire have done
everything possible to dig up some dirt on me, or to find something,
anything in my writings which could be shown to be a lie? They have found
nothing. That is because I do not lie. I always tell the truth to the best
of my knowledge and belief. As I have previously stated, I am sure there
are false statements in my posts. I think most people will agree with me
that it is reasonable to distinguish between a lie and a false statement. I
define a lie as a false statement which is known to be false by the speaker
at the time he makes the statement. In other words, all lies are false
statements, but not all false statements are lies.
If Annie Duke or anyone else wants to question the accuracy of the incidents
I have narrated, I will supply a few more confirmatory details which will
perhaps jog Annie's memory, since I am pretty sure that Annie will deny that
these incidents took place, or that she has ever met me. She already lied
about this once, when she said she had never seen me before in her life.
So you silly anonymous troll, if you are going to question my truthfulness,
are you going to supply some proof that I am a liar, or that the incidents I
related did not take place exactly as I have said?
Or is that your entire contribution to the discussion -- Ramashiva is a
liar, don't believe anything he says. I am sure that will carry a lot of
weight in the court of public opinion on RGP. LOL. Go back under your
rock, you slimy, anonymous troll. Next time we want your opinion on
anything, we will ask for it.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
You are really pissing in the wind if you are going to question my
credibility on RGP
"j.canz" <anon...@aol.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
deal with the real issue. Tell me something. At anonymous troll school, do
they have special classes on ad hominem arguments? Because that is all you
anonymous trolls know how to do. You always attack me. You never address
the issues or arguments I raise.
By your own admission, you are a drunk. With this post, you show yourself
to be the consummate moron as well. You call me a moron, and the evidence
that you offer is that I question the accepted version of the Holocaust?
And you claim that I did this to seem intelligent? How stupid can you be?
People who just accept whatever they are told as true are the real morons.
I never said the accepted version of the Holocaust was false. I just
questioned it. I questioned the accepted account, because there are written
accounts by survivors of the Nazi concentration camps which cast serious
doubts on whether the accepted version is true. That makes me a moron?
Listen, you drunken piece of dog shit. If you think I am a moron, I
challenge you to an IQ test. How much money do you want to wager on who
will get the higher score if we both take the same IQ test at the same time?
LOL. You would never dare to take an IQ test with me, because despite your
drunken anonymous claim that I am a moron, you know in your anonymous troll
heart that my intelligence level is so far above yours, that you cannot even
imagine how stupid and ignorant you are compared to me.
JFC, these anonymous trolls freak me out. It is really hard to believe that
such worthless, subhuman scum exists in the form of a human body. Before I
got involved in the Danny/Annie flap, I told another RGP poster in an email
that I was reluctant to get involved, because everytime I get involved in an
issue, the anonymous trolls come out of the woodwork and attack me. They
never attack my issues, facts, or arguments, mind you. They have no answer
for what I say. Instead, they always attack me.
Go guzzle another fifth of whiskey, whiskeytown. Hopefully your brain and
liver will rot soon, and we won't have to listen to any more of your
anonymous spew.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
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Gary Carson
<rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Who the fuck appointed you the supreme court justice of RGP (not RPG)
you
>fucking idiot? Are you questioning my veracity or truthfulness? You
need
>to get a clue. This is the typical idiotic nonsense from the typical
>idiotic troll. I am not the issue here. Annie Duke is the issue.
Uh, you don't get to pick the issue, son.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
William Coleman
Neither do you, Gary. You know exactly what I am talking about. You know
exactly what an ad hominem argument is. I just find it extremely amusing
that frequently when I post on a topic -- and the poster does pick the
issue he wants to discuss -- these anonymous trolls, like the ones in this
thread, respond to my post with personal attacks, and simply will not
address the issues or points I have discussed. A perfect example of this is
the long subthread "Attention Ramashiva", which I know you have been
following, because you just posted in that subthread. This idiot greatbrit
has been relentlessly hounding me with claims that I am a bigot because of
my negative opinions about faggots. I have responded to him with what I
consider to be perfectly valid reasons for my opinions, but he doesn't want
to discuss my reasons, he just keeps telling me over and over that I am a
bigot.
Like I said, it is extremely amusing, because when someone attacks you with
an ad hominem argument, and refuses to address any of your issues or
arguments, it is a pretty good indication that they have no effective
response other than to attack you.
Basically, all these anonymous trolls who attack me in this way are
conceding that I am correct on the issues. I don't think any of them are
intelligent enough to realize that.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
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> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
Gary Carson
<rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>address the issues or points I have discussed. A perfect example of
this is
>the long subthread "Attention Ramashiva", which I know you have been
>following, because you just posted in that subthread. This idiot
greatbrit
>has been relentlessly hounding me with claims that I am a bigot
because of
>my negative opinions about faggots.
Well, he's right.
I have responded to him with what I
>consider to be perfectly valid reasons for my opinions,
Yes, that's what's so funny about it. Your reasons just demonstrate
your bigotry.
but he doesn't want
>to discuss my reasons, he just keeps telling me over and over that I
am a
>bigot.
Your reasons are ludicrious, ignorant, and not worth discussing. And,
you are a bigiot.
>Like I said, it is extremely amusing, because when someone attacks
you with
>an ad hominem argument, and refuses to address any of your issues or
>arguments, it is a pretty good indication that they have no effective
>response other than to attack you.
It's not an attack on you. It's just an observation of the obvious.
You are a bigot. That's not an attack.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
Nat Silver
> [Annie] said something to the effect of "I am here to play poker,
> not to discuss linguistics." I felt like saying "Then why did you
> bring up linguistics, if you did not want to discuss it?" But I said
> nothing...
William Coleman, the great Ramashiva,
whipped into silence. Incredible.
> I have never said another word to Annie since her
> rude brusque remark to me...
You describe your own behavior as if
it were scripted according to Emily Post.
Incredible.
> After the little linguistics incident, on another occasion,
> she talked ABOUT me in a very insulting and
> derogatory manner to the other players. This rude
> behavior went on...
Pobrecito; and you took it...
> for many hours,...
without uttering so much as a peep. Incredible.
> during which time I was staring holes through her every time
> she started talking ABOUT me....
You must be Superman, -er no; Ramashiva!
> She never once made eye contact with me.
> One of my friends, who was also in the game,
> reported that after I left, someone asked her who I was.
> Even though she knew my name, or at least we had
> introduced ourselves when we were still on speaking terms,
> and had played with me on several occasions, she replied
> that she had no idea who I was, and that she had never seen me
> before in her life.
Aw, your feelings were hurt, and ya want recognition?
Market Ramashiva dolls.
j.canz
> Who the fuck appointed you the supreme court justice of RGP (not RPG) you
> fucking idiot?
Hey Ramses, please re-read my post again. You claim to be an
intellectual, but I am amazed that you continually misread the simplest
sentences.
I never claimed to be the Supreme Court Justice of RPG (hey maybe
the same folks who hooked up Georgie with that White Mansion did it!!). I
just said that in this forum, calling you as a defense witness may not be
too smart. You have admitted yourself that you have some serious mental
issues. ANY court would look very closely re-your ability to give
credeble, competent testimony.
A reread of your post answers the question of why my email address
reads anonymous. If you think I want you having access to it, then you
really are nuts.
Are you questioning my veracity or truthfulness?
Not at all.......just you mental capacity.
You need
> to get a clue. This is the typical idiotic nonsense from the typical
> idiotic troll. I am not the issue here. Annie Duke is the issue. Like the
> typical anonymous troll, you want to make me the issue, because you do not
> want to deal with the real issue.
>
> The real issue is Annie Duke. I am just one of many, many people with
> first-hand experiences of Annie Duke who can tell similar stories. Why
> don't you want to come to terms with who and what she is?
I have no dog in this fight.
>
> I don't think you are going to get much support here on RGP for questioning
> my truthfulness. In fact, I predict you will get zero support. Even my
> bitter enemies will tell you that whatever else I may or may not be, I am
> definitely not a liar.
Never said you were a liar......just maybe a little imbalanced. I
have met utterly delusional people who absolutely believed they were being
truthful, even when the lock on the rubber-room door slammed shut. You
have admitted you have problems. We must consider the source.
Am I calling you a liar? Absolutely not. Do I think you have a
serious credibility issue here, and anywhere else you speak? Absolutely.
If a lawyer told me I needed your testimony to save me, I'd start looking
for a new lawyer.
Lucas Ford
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> I think I've figured it out....
And you call Coleman the moron?
> To back up my assessment, I point out that Daniel has quoted Ramashiva as
> voicing a similiar opinion.
And the problem here is?
>
> Think I'd just rather stand alone then be supported by Ramashiva in my
> arguments...LOL
Oh, I see. So because you don't agree with Coleman's opinions on
certain subjects, he must be lying about his experiences with Annie
Duke? Or is it that because you don't agree with Coleman you aren't
interested in anything relevent he might bring to the discussion?
>
> Ramashiva's a moron who will voice a reluctance to accept a fact as well
> documented as the Holocaust just to seem like he's intelligent....
Are you so insecure in your own beliefs that Coleman's opinion of the
Holocaust bothers you? Does it really matter to you what Coleman
questions and doesn't question?
> Bad call, Dan N...almost character assassination by association...LOL
Yeah, I'm sure Daniel will be laying awake nights worried you think he
made a bad call. Maybe you could relate some of your experiences
playing poker with Annie Duke which refute what Coleman and Daniel
said.
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