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Earl Strickland - "five in the side" at Amsterdam Billiards

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risky biz

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Dec 31, 2012, 8:30:23 PM12/31/12
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Were you impressed by the shot Jackie Gleason (playing Minnesota Fats)
made in the movie 'The Hustler'? The one where he shot toward the cluster
and made a ball going back in the opposite direction? Nice, but it was a
dead shot already set up by Willie Mosconi.

Earl Strickland is the house pro at Steinway Billiards in New York but
this video was made at Amsterdam Billiards. It's hard to tell what's going
on. Earl is animatedly interacting with the crowd as usual. He is being
ribbed that he is going to miss or scratch. There is a rackman calling the
balls loudly as they used to do (and maybe still do in tournaments; I
don't watch straight pool).

Earl shoots down to his break shot, the balls are racked and the rack man
calls "two and match" meaning he needs two balls to win the match. He
makes the ball but dogs it by welding the cue ball to the cluster still
needing one ball for the match. There was probably some money on the match
and I think there may have been some prop bets in the crowd as to whether
or not he could then get out. Earl studies for a while and then calls
"five in the side".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Th5TodIXQ

Happy New Year to everyone.

halfpastdead

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Dec 31, 2012, 11:14:30 PM12/31/12
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shot was illegal


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Dec 31, 2012, 11:44:26 PM12/31/12
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:14:30 -0800, "halfpastdead"
<aa9...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

>On Dec 31 2012 7:30 PM, risky biz wrote:
>
>> Were you impressed by the shot Jackie Gleason (playing Minnesota Fats)
>> made in the movie 'The Hustler'? The one where he shot toward the cluster
>> and made a ball going back in the opposite direction? Nice, but it was a
>> dead shot already set up by Willie Mosconi.
>>
>> Earl Strickland is the house pro at Steinway Billiards in New York but
>> this video was made at Amsterdam Billiards. It's hard to tell what's going
>> on. Earl is animatedly interacting with the crowd as usual. He is being
>> ribbed that he is going to miss or scratch. There is a rackman calling the
>> balls loudly as they used to do (and maybe still do in tournaments; I
>> don't watch straight pool).
>>
>> Earl shoots down to his break shot, the balls are racked and the rack man
>> calls "two and match" meaning he needs two balls to win the match. He
>> makes the ball but dogs it by welding the cue ball to the cluster still
>> needing one ball for the match. There was probably some money on the match
>> and I think there may have been some prop bets in the crowd as to whether
>> or not he could then get out. Earl studies for a while and then calls
>> "five in the side".
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Th5TodIXQ
>>
>> Happy New Year to everyone.
>
>shot was illegal

Exactly why?

risky biz

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Jan 4, 2013, 6:12:11 PM1/4/13
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On Dec 31 2012 8:14 PM, halfpastdead wrote:

> On Dec 31 2012 7:30 PM, risky biz wrote:
>
> > Were you impressed by the shot Jackie Gleason (playing Minnesota Fats)
> > made in the movie 'The Hustler'? The one where he shot toward the cluster
> > and made a ball going back in the opposite direction? Nice, but it was a
> > dead shot already set up by Willie Mosconi.
> >
> > Earl Strickland is the house pro at Steinway Billiards in New York but
> > this video was made at Amsterdam Billiards. It's hard to tell what's going
> > on. Earl is animatedly interacting with the crowd as usual. He is being
> > ribbed that he is going to miss or scratch. There is a rackman calling the
> > balls loudly as they used to do (and maybe still do in tournaments; I
> > don't watch straight pool).
> >
> > Earl shoots down to his break shot, the balls are racked and the rack man
> > calls "two and match" meaning he needs two balls to win the match. He
> > makes the ball but dogs it by welding the cue ball to the cluster still
> > needing one ball for the match. There was probably some money on the match
> > and I think there may have been some prop bets in the crowd as to whether
> > or not he could then get out. Earl studies for a while and then calls
> > "five in the side".
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Th5TodIXQ
> >
> > Happy New Year to everyone.
>
> shot was illegal

The shot wasn't illegal. The CB was in contact with only the 6-ball and he
even shot away from it with a thin cut.

WPA Rules

6. Fouls

6.7 Double Hit / Frozen Balls
"However, if the cue ball is touching an object ball at the start of the
shot, it is legal to shoot towards or partly into that ball (provided it
is a legal target within the rules of the game) and if the object ball is
moved by such a shot, it is considered to have been contacted by the cue
ball."

6.8 Push Shot
It is a foul to prolong tip-to-cue-ball contact beyond that seen in normal
shots.

pltrgyst

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Jan 4, 2013, 7:49:51 PM1/4/13
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And the standard way of insuring that contact is not prolonged is by
elevating the cue butt. Earl did so, so it was no foul.

-- Larry

StinkFist

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Jan 4, 2013, 9:19:11 PM1/4/13
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On Dec 31 2012, 10:14 pm, "halfpastdead" <aa94...@webnntp.invalid>
wrote:
No it wasn't

risky biz

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Jan 4, 2013, 10:46:37 PM1/4/13
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I call foul on you for reposting my posts here all over the place. Without
attribution, too.

pltrgyst

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Jan 5, 2013, 3:40:32 PM1/5/13
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On 1/4/13 10:46 PM, risky biz wrote:

> I call foul on you for reposting my posts here all over the place. Without
> attribution, too.

"Posts ... all over the place"?

I rarely even *read* what you post.

I've copied one in the past month, and perhaps one more ever, that
concerned billiards, to rec.sport.billiard. With quotation marks, so
that people clearly understood that they were not my creations. That's it.

If you want to be famous or fawned over, post them over there yourself.

If you don't want what you write spread around, don't post on USEnet.

If you just want to lie and distort, as per the norm for rgp, go fuck
yourself.

-- Larry

risky biz

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Jan 5, 2013, 9:45:43 PM1/5/13
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I don't really GAF if I get credit for my "creations". If you want to post
over there why don't you post your own content? If I want something posted
at AZBilliards or rec.sport.billiard I'll post it over there myself. As it
so happens, I don't want anything I post here about pool posted at either
one.

In any case why make a rumor-repeating conveyor belt out of yourself by
posting something that never happened? I fabricated that whole story about
that conversation with Earl. I've never talked to Earl in my life. That's
OK here because I checked with the Senior Newsgroup Coordinator and he
said I could make up anything I wanted to as long as it was entertaining.
It apparently met that requirement since you posted it all over the
internet. I suggest you post a retraction everywhere that you posted it
and let the general pool public know that the "guy" that posted it
revealed that it was a completely fictional narrative.

I also suggest that you learn the difference between lies and distortions
as opposed to entertaining fictional narratives.

And while you're at it- go fuck yourself, too.

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