That's right, black people are normal, nothing wrong with them

[Satoshi Popinjay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1be9eSoq4hs

Negroes be fighting at the Encore in Las Vegas. That's right, they can't just go have a nice time at a beautiful hotel in Vegas, instead they MUST start some shit, breaking out into three separate fights.

Jungle Bunnies Gone Wild.

[BillB]

We get it. You're a racist piece of shit and proud of it. Good for you.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 14, 2020, Satoshi Popinjay wrote
(in article<a1c0d5ad-2ab2-4e41...@googlegroups.com>):

I think that’s an old video. There have been recent fights on the strip. I
was also told that the cheap rooms are bringing morons in, and they are
trashing the rooms, along with getting into several fights right on the
strip.

I remember in my earlier days in LV at Sam’s Town. I was there one night
when they had a Latino band of some sort, and the lounge was filled
exclusively with Hispanics. When it was time for the band to quit, the casino
literally surrounded the lounge with security guards. You can only shake your
head. If you think you need massive security for a certain group of people,
why in the fuck would you attract that crowd in the first place? Same with
fight nights, NBA stuff, etc. Nothing but trouble.

[BTSinAustin]

Paul, really? Look it's like this. People are mostly good but there are bad people. There are good and bad black people, white people, Asian, Hispanic, cops, politicians (ok that's a stretch)... all kinds of people. Good and bad.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 14, 2020, BillB wrote
(in article<cab7067a-fa92-4ead...@googlegroups.com>):

Was the reporter a racist?

[BillB]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:11:43 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:


> Was the reporter a racist?

I don't recall him trying to impugn the character of all people with similar color skin or blaming the skin color for the behaviors of these three individuals (out of thousands of guests).

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 14, 2020, BillB wrote

(in article<765456ce-dd36-4cbf...@googlegroups.com>):

I don’t recall Paul doing that either.

[BillB]

Maybe you are stupid?

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:08:26 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:



>
> I think that’s an old video. There have been recent fights on the strip. I
> was also told that the cheap rooms are bringing morons in, and they are
> trashing the rooms, along with getting into several fights right on the
> strip.
>
> I remember in my earlier days in LV at Sam’s Town. I was there one night
> when they had a Latino band of some sort, and the lounge was filled
> exclusively with Hispanics. When it was time for the band to quit, the casino
> literally surrounded the lounge with security guards. You can only shake your
> head. If you think you need massive security for a certain group of people,
> why in the fuck would you attract that crowd in the first place? Same with
> fight nights, NBA stuff, etc. Nothing but trouble.

Maybe I got the wrong video, but I just spoke to some friends who went down to Laughlin for a couple days, they said the NATIVES in Vegas been going crazy lately and it's all over the news. They were happy because there weren't too many of "them" in Laughlin. Kinda nice to get away from them for a couple days. They told me to look up "Encore" on google or youtube to see what's up. Like someone threw a dollar bill in the middle of them and World War 3 started. I said next time throw a bucket of fried chicken.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 12:52:30 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:



>
> We get it. You're a racist piece of shit and proud of it. Good for you.

We get it, you live in Vancouver and ain't never seen one before. Good for you.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:08:48 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:



>
> Paul, really? Look it's like this. People are mostly good but there are bad people. There are good and bad black people, white people, Asian, Hispanic, cops, politicians (ok that's a stretch)... all kinds of people. Good and bad.

Did you hear what some of these lovely people did over the weekend in Compton? Some turd came out of the bush in Compton and walked up to two innocent police who were just sitting in their car, protecting the neighborhood, and shot several bullets into the car point blank. The two police are at the hospital fighting for their lives. SO, when the ambulance was bringing the two wounded police to the emergency room, a CROWD of these animals, all shouting "Black Lives Matter" and shit like that, tried to BLOCK the ambulance and started yelling that they hope the two wounded cops die. And these are what you call "people".

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 14, 2020, BillB wrote

(in article<d43f5497-c58c-4281...@googlegroups.com>):

> On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:34:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > On Sep 14, 2020, BillB wrote
> > (in article<765456ce-dd36-4cbf...@googlegroups.com>):
> >
> > > On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:11:43 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > >
> > > > Was the reporter a racist?
> > >
> > > I don't recall him trying to impugn the character of all people with
> > > similar
> > > color skin or blaming the skin color for the behaviors of these three
> > > individuals (out of thousands of guests).

Is that like you do with white conservatives? Seems identical.

> >
> > I don’t recall Paul doing that either.
>
> Maybe you are stupid?

I thought he was just reporting some news. Like the reporter.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 14, 2020, Satoshi Popinjay wrote

(in article<e8694fd1-083e-40ea...@googlegroups.com>):

Just google “fights on Las Vegas Strip”, but check the dates on the
links. This is one:

https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/las-vegas-police-address-holiday-weekend-
violence-on-strip-in-downtown/article_98a86c2a-f226-11ea-ab11-
4f0a6b4b886f.html

Tell me how many white people you see. It was a pretty well dressed crowd.
Their best white t-shirts.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 14, 2020, Satoshi Popinjay wrote

(in article<7c9228f9-edae-41cf...@googlegroups.com>):

They were people until the leftist schools indoctrinated them into the
victimhood cult. After that, they were putty in the hands of the left.

But I’m sure you’ve heard all of the outrage from the left over this
violence, right?

[VegasJerry]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 2:20:40 PM UTC-7, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:
> On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:08:48 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> > Paul, really? Look it's like this. People are mostly good but there are bad people. There are good and bad black people, white people, Asian, Hispanic, cops, politicians (ok that's a stretch)... all kinds of people. Good and bad.
>
>
> Did you hear what some of these lovely people did over the weekend in Compton? Some turd came out of the bush in Compton and walked up to two innocent police who were just sitting in their car, protecting the neighborhood, and shot several bullets into the car point blank.

Did you know that Compton dissolved it's police department 20-years ago?

"We couldn't keep up with the crime."

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:13:50 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:



>
> Did you know that Compton dissolved it's police department 20-years ago?
>
> "We couldn't keep up with the crime."
>

Sheriffs deputies. One was a woman. Just sitting in their car, minding their own business. Not hurting no one. I'm guessing they probably have families of their own at home, depending on them. The tragedy is that once they catch this piece of shit, they'll never get him to the injection table. He'll have appeals for 25 years, and then get his sentence commuted.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:27:40 PM UTC-7, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:
> On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:13:50 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> > Did you know that Compton dissolved it's police department 20-years ago?
> >
> > "We couldn't keep up with the crime."
> >

Here's what some so-called black "pastor", in other words a scam artist, said about the fallen policemen.

‘Your Career Is a Choice, My Blackness Isn’t’: Pastor Speaks Out Against Blue Lives Matter After L.A. Deputies Shooting

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:31:21 PM UTC-7, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:



>
> Here's what some so-called black "pastor", in other words a scam artist, said about the fallen policemen.
>
> ‘Your Career Is a Choice, My Blackness Isn’t’: Pastor Speaks Out Against Blue Lives Matter After L.A. Deputies Shooting

Scroll down half a page to see this piece of shit shoot the innocent police in cold blood.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a-county-sheriffs-deputy-shot-in-compton-agency-says/

[Satoshi Popinjay]

He looks like a midget.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 14, 2020, Satoshi Popinjay wrote

(in article<3d7e49bb-d654-4b1e...@googlegroups.com>):

> On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:27:40 PM UTC-7, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:
> > On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:13:50 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Did you know that Compton dissolved it's police department 20-years ago?
> > >
> > > "We couldn't keep up with the crime."
>
> Here's what some so-called black "pastor", in other words a scam artist, said
> about the fallen policemen.
>
> ‘Your Career Is a Choice, My Blackness Isn’t’:

That’s sounds a lot like he wouldn’t choose to be black if he had a
choice. Great for the self esteem of other blacks.

[BillB]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 2:25:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> On Sep 14, 2020, BillB wrote
> (in article<d43f5497-c58c-4281...@googlegroups.com>):
>
> > On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:34:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > > On Sep 14, 2020, BillB wrote
> > > (in article<765456ce-dd36-4cbf...@googlegroups.com>):
> > >
> > > > On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:11:43 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Was the reporter a racist?
> > > >
> > > > I don't recall him trying to impugn the character of all people with
> > > > similar
> > > > color skin or blaming the skin color for the behaviors of these three
> > > > individuals (out of thousands of guests).
>
> Is that like you do with white conservatives? Seems identical.

That's not what I do with "white conservatives". I don't give a fuck what color they are, conservatives are garbage people. Not because of some arbitrary physical feature that they had nothing to do with, but because of they CHOOSE to believe.

> > > I don’t recall Paul doing that either.
> >
> > Maybe you are stupid?
>
> I thought he was just reporting some news. Like the reporter.

No, he was saying there is something wrong with "black people". Learn to read.

You don't think it's racist to call someone a "jungle bunny" because of the color of their skin? You're a classless piece of trash just like him.

[BillB]

I saw the story on Fox News.com They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation". I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with the police.

[Clave]

Pop-Tard just happens to be one of the awful ones.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 14, 2020, BillB wrote

(in article<5eb9b045-2f73-45eb...@googlegroups.com>):

> On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 2:25:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > On Sep 14, 2020, BillB wrote
> > (in article<d43f5497-c58c-4281...@googlegroups.com>):
> >
> > > On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:34:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > > > On Sep 14, 2020, BillB wrote
> > > > (in article<765456ce-dd36-4cbf...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > >
> > > > > On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:11:43 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Was the reporter a racist?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't recall him trying to impugn the character of all people with
> > > > > similar
> > > > > color skin or blaming the skin color for the behaviors of these three
> > > > > individuals (out of thousands of guests).
> >
> > Is that like you do with white conservatives? Seems identical.
>
> That's not what I do with "white conservatives". I don't give a fuck what
> color they are, conservatives are garbage people. Not because of some
> arbitrary physical feature that they had nothing to do with, but because of
> they CHOOSE to believe.

How do you feel about how blacks CHOOSE to act?

Are you more concerned about what conservatives believe, or how they act? Do
they all believe the same thing? Do they all act the same?

> > > > I don’t recall Paul doing that either.
> > >
> > > Maybe you are stupid?
> >
> > I thought he was just reporting some news. Like the reporter.
>
> No, he was saying there is something wrong with "black people". Learn to read.
>
> You don't think it's racist to call someone a "jungle bunny" because of the
> color of their skin? You're a classless piece of trash just like him.

Is it because of the color of their skin, or how they CHOOSE to act?

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:



>
> I saw the story on Fox News.com They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation". I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with the police.

O I C. He shot two innocent police who were minding their own business, because George Floyd. Now who's the piece of shit? Turd.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 4:14:19 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:



>
> Is it because of the color of their skin, or how they CHOOSE to act?

I just went down to the corner store to grab a coke. There was a black guy in a really nice BMW, sitting there with his motor running, probably just taking a break from driving. One thing's for sure, he don't live around here. Probably a basketball player, or a drug dealer.

[Maverick]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

> I saw the story on Fox News.com They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation". I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with the police.

What are you fucking stupid? You couldn't possibly be THAT stupid to believe that nonsense.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 4:51:08 PM UTC-7, Maverick wrote:



>
> What are you fucking stupid? You couldn't possibly be THAT stupid to believe that nonsense.

He lives in Vancouver Canada. He's never seen a black person in his life. Except when they're on television singing and dancing, or looting.

[Dutch]

On 2020-09-14 2:38 p.m., Bill Vanek wrote:
> They were people until the leftist schools indoctrinated them into the
> victimhood cult.

Right wing racist-speak for "started acknowledging African American
grievances". You don't need a victimhood cult when you're a victim.

African Americans have been victims to a greater or lesser degree since
they were brought to this continent against their will 400 years ago.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 5:20:30 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:



>
> African Americans have been victims to a greater or lesser degree since
> they were brought to this continent against their will 400 years ago.

I am quite sure we could raise the money to send them all back. No problem. FIRST CLASS!

[Dutch]

No returns. But you're free to head on back to wherever.. but.. there
are black faces everywhere! Maybe we could just learn to get along.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 6:00:43 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:



>
> No returns. But you're free to head on back to wherever.. but.. there
> are black faces everywhere! Maybe we could just learn to get along.

Yeah, just everyone quit stealing and looting and rapping, I can get along with that. Especially the rap music. Knock that shit off.

[BillB]

If you were not an innumerate boob you would understand that even if Vancouver were only 1% black, you would still see a black people all the time by walking one block on a busy street (and you do).

The real difference isn't that black people don't exist in Canada, but that they don't live with the same level of systemic racism and other abuse As a result so they don't exhibit the same level of dysfunctional behaviors you might observe in certain areas of the US.

Believe it or not, I cannot remember the last time there was a questionable killing or aggravated assault of a black person by police here. In the US it's an almost DAILY occurrence.

[BillB]

You don't think this was retaliation? Of course it was. surely you can't deny the subsequent protest at the hospital was related to all the other anti-police protests of the last several months.

[BillB]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 4:51:08 PM UTC-7, Maverick wrote:

Believe what? That this was a retaliation shooting? Of course it was, and I'm certain it is being investigated as such.

[BillB]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 5:05:26 PM UTC-7, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:


> He lives in Vancouver Canada. He's never seen a black person in his life.

Moronic comment.

>Except when they're on television singing and dancing, or looting.

Racist comment.

[halfpastdead9]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1be9eSoq4hs
>
> Negroes be fighting at the Encore in Las Vegas. That's right, they can't just go have a nice time at a beautiful hotel in Vegas, instead they MUST start some shit, breaking out into three separate fights.
>
> Jungle Bunnies Gone Wild.

Day wuz Moozlims

[halfpastdead9]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 2:13:03 PM UTC-7, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:
> On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:08:26 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> > I think that’s an old video. There have been recent fights on the strip. I
> > was also told that the cheap rooms are bringing morons in, and they are
> > trashing the rooms, along with getting into several fights right on the
> > strip.
> >
> > I remember in my earlier days in LV at Sam’s Town. I was there one night
> > when they had a Latino band of some sort, and the lounge was filled
> > exclusively with Hispanics. When it was time for the band to quit, the casino
> > literally surrounded the lounge with security guards. You can only shake your
> > head. If you think you need massive security for a certain group of people,
> > why in the fuck would you attract that crowd in the first place? Same with
> > fight nights, NBA stuff, etc. Nothing but trouble.
>
>
>
> Maybe I got the wrong video, but I just spoke to some friends who went down to Laughlin for a couple days, they said the NATIVES in Vegas been going crazy lately and it's all over the news. They were happy because there weren't too many of "them" in Laughlin. Kinda nice to get away from them for a couple days. They told me to look up "Encore" on google or youtube to see what's up. Like someone threw a dollar bill in the middle of them and World War 3 started. I said next time throw a bucket of fried chicken.

Thank You.. Fuzzy Zoeller

[halfpastdead9]

"little person"

[BillB]

By the way, according to FBI UCR, the felonious killings of law enforcement are most often perpetrated by white people.

[halfpastdead9]

Of course it was.. Just like the 5 cops killed in Dallas a few years back

[BillB]

Yup. Same deal, except now there's a whole national movement behind the outrage. As I posted about a week ago...these guys aren't playing anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

Since the Floyd protests started, the police and politicians have had a great opportunity and opening to say:

1) we aren't going to engage in wanton abuse, harassment and unnecessary violence any more, and,

2) we aren't going to tolerate it, let alone cover up for our colleagues who engage in these behaviors.

The code of silence must be cracked. There should be a nationwide program where police are given rewards for ratting out their co-workers. Maybe dinner for four at Olive Garden (including unlimited breadsticks).

[Mossingen]

"BillB" wrote in message
news:255da858-f74e-469f...@googlegroups.com...

_________________



I think you're wading into some quicksand here. You criticize paul for
claiming that black people in the U.S. are angry and cause problems, but
then you provide a reason for why black people are angry and cause problems.
Which is it?

[BillB]

I think I've already explained this about FIFTY TIMES. If a social group or subgroup is abused and mistreated over generations, a higher percentage of people in that group or subgroup will inevitably exhibit dysfunctional or self-destructive behaviors compared to groups or subgroups who suffered no such abuse. This is a phenomenon we see repeated around the world in many marginalized cultures.

It's NOT all "black people". It's just a higher percentage. Black people are individuals just like "white people". To see a black person and make assumptions about their individual character based on race is racist. Black is a correlation to increase social problems in the US, not a causation. Being "black" doesn't make you act a certain way, but if you target any group for abuse, a correlation will exist between your target group and the outputted response behaviors. "Whites" would suffer the same fate as blacks under the same circumstances of abuse. It would just be reversed. So no, there is nothing "wrong" with black people.

Secondly, it's especially offensive for "white people" who deliberately and systematically inflicted all this abuse and caused all the dysfunction in the black community over many generations to single out their own victims for ridicule for problems they (or their community or ancestors) caused. The only thing "white people" should be doing is everything they can to help heal the wounds.

[Tim Norfolk]

On Mon

> That's not what I do with "white conservatives". I don't give a fuck what color they are, conservatives are garbage people. Not because of some arbitrary physical feature that they had nothing to do with, but because of they CHOOSE to believe.

<snip>

Evidence suggests that one cannot choose what to believe. Belief largely sits in the amygdala, the center of emotional reasoning, while rational thought is in the frontal lobes, and the former is more influential in most people. It is why you cannot logically argue someone out of a position which they have arrived at emotionally.

[Dutch]

There must be an evolutionary basis for that, but I can't figure out
what it is.

[BTSinAustin]

The problem we have is that people don't see or admit that blacks have been fucked over for generations. Yes, there are many examples of black people rising up and prospering but the majority of kids in inner-city schools are most likely going to follow in the footsteps of the failed community.

That said, the violence is not helping the cause. Video an attack and bam... Trump has a new ad free of charge.

[Tim Norfolk]

If your emotions tell you that the slight noises in the tall grass are a predator, you run away and survive to breed. If you go over and have a look 'just to make sure', you might get eaten, and don't get to breed.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 15, 2020, Tim Norfolk wrote
(in article<e0480eb2-6c8e-4375...@googlegroups.com>):

Which is how every liberal arrives at every position. No wonder it seems
futile.

[Tim Norfolk]

Please tell me the logic behind denying science, which is currently the default position of the GOP?

[BTSinAustin]

It makes sense, hard-right conservatives tend to look like pale insurance salesmen and hard lefters tend to resemble weasels, while us in the middle are handsome, tall and have big units.

[VegasJerry]

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:27:40 PM UTC-7, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:
> > On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:13:50 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Did you know that Compton dissolved it's police department 20-years ago?
> > >
> > > "We couldn't keep up with the crime."
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sheriffs deputies. One was a woman. Just sitting in their car, minding their own business. Not hurting no one. I'm guessing they probably have families of their own at home, depending on them. The tragedy is that once they catch this piece of shit, they'll never get him to the injection table. He'll have appeals for 25 years, and then get his sentence commuted.

>
> I saw the story on Fox News.com

You actually ADMIT to watching Fake Faux nuze?

LOL!

> They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation".

At least they said what was obvious on the video.

> I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring.

No, there is not, and you can't show that there is...

> Black people are fighting a war for their lives with the police.

No, their violating the law by resisting arrest. And you can't show that they aren't.

lol

FO..

[Dutch]

Like basing every political belief on an attachment to fetuses, on the
faint hope that Roe v Wade will someday be overturned and American women
will forced back into the shadows to obtain abortions. Tell me you'd
still support Donald Trump if that issue was off the table.

[Tim Norfolk]

How did I lose that? I'm short and fat.

[Dutch]

Crass short term self interest, nothing emotional about that.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 12:26:38 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:



>
> Please tell me the logic behind denying science, which is currently the default position of the GOP?

You arrogant piece of shit. Do you think there are no scientists who are republicans? Has nothing deemed by "science" ever turned out to be wrong? Do you think the Sierra Club cannot possibly have a political agenda? No one is more closed-minded than you assholes.

[Clave]

On 9/15/2020 7:43 PM, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 12:26:38 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> Please tell me the logic behind denying science, which is currently the default position of the GOP?
>
>
> You arrogant piece of shit. Do you think there are no scientists who are republicans? Has nothing deemed by "science"

What an idiot.

[Tim Norfolk]

1. Not many
2. Yes, but the process is generally self-correcting
3. Of course they do

[Tim Norfolk]

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 10:43:54 PM UTC-4, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:

Well, to support my original contention, the following groups are predominantly or exclusively GOP supporters (with a lot of overlap between groups):

QAnon adherents
Young Earth Creationists
Flat Earth proponents
Anti-vaccination groups
Moon Landing deniers
Holocaust deniers
Climate Change denial

On top of that, the GOP has been at the forefront of cutting science funding since Nixon. Then there is the matter of politicization, with the current administration trying to rewrite reality in reports from the CDC, NOAA, NASA, the FDA and every other agency.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 16, 2020, Tim Norfolk wrote
(in article<815633e0-2104-40e4...@googlegroups.com>):

> On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 10:43:54 PM UTC-4, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 12:26:38 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Please tell me the logic behind denying science, which is currently the
> > > default position of the GOP?
> >
> >
> > You arrogant piece of shit. Do you think there are no scientists who are
> > republicans? Has nothing deemed by "science" ever turned out to be wrong?
> > Do you think the Sierra Club cannot possibly have a political agenda? No
> > one is more closed-minded than you assholes.
>
> Well, to support my original contention, the following groups are
> predominantly or exclusively GOP supporters (with a lot of overlap between
> groups):
>
> QAnon adherents
> Young Earth Creationists
> Flat Earth proponents
> Anti-vaccination groups

"In 2015, thePew Research Center
(http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/07/01/americans-politics-and-science-
issues/)conducted a survey of 2 thousand adults which concluded about 12
percent of liberals and 10 percent of conservatives believed that childhood
vaccines are unsafe.”

So another liberal lie, as expected.

> Moon Landing deniers

Seriously? You think they are into politics?

> Holocaust deniers

Who hates the Jews today, the left or the right? You are dishonest.

> Climate Change denial

No one denies climate change. You are being dishonest, as all liberals do,
all the time. You know that it’s just a teensy bit more complex than that.
Too complex for liberals, I suppose.

And BTW, people who believe in sociology are all Dem supporters. Why didn’t
you mention that?

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 7:55:27 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:




>
> Who hates the Jews today, the left or the right?

Leftwing Jews hate Jews.

Rightwing Christians love Jews.

[Dutch]

"Jews will not replace us!"

>> Climate Change denial
>
> No one denies climate change. You are being dishonest

GMAFB, you lying sack of shit. You know very well that the issue of
"Climate Change" as described in scientific journals means that extremes
in weather are directly caused by heating of the earth's atmosphere
which is caused by greenhouse gas emissions, exacerbated by human use of
fossil fuels. It's shortened to "Climate Change" for convenience.

, as all liberals do,
> all the time. You know that it’s just a teensy bit more complex than that.
> Too complex for liberals, I suppose.

Yeah right, science is too hard for liberals. That's a good one.

> And BTW, people who believe in sociology are all Dem supporters. Why didn’t
> you mention that?

"believe in sociology"? wtf is that supposed to mean? Sociology is the
study of human society, it's not shocking that you don't believe in it.

[Dutch]

Hardliners on the right hate Jews because of "Welcome the stranger."

The left respects Jews, but are not in lockstep with Israel.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 16, 2020, Satoshi Popinjay wrote
(in article<aaf2da71-15f4-4dae...@googlegroups.com>):

> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 7:55:27 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
>
> >
> > Who hates the Jews today, the left or the right?
>
> Leftwing Jews hate Jews.

Yep, Jews and/or Israel. Just like liberalism makes white people hate
themselves - and other whites - for being white. There is definitely a whole
lot of hate going around on the left. That’s what they do. It’s part of
their religion.

> Rightwing Christians love Jews.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 15, 2020, Dutch wrote
(in article <_fc8H.181661$TO4....@fx05.iad>):

You are mistaking my disgust with the hypocrisy of the BLM ideology, and all
of the left, with any serious concern over abortion. Abortion is a troubling
issue for anyone who can think - anyone with an open mind. That’s why
it’s so simple for the left. Simple thoughts for simple minds, as always.
You have no core principles, and that appears to be very much a liberal
thing.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 16, 2020, Dutch wrote
(in article <0MA8H.73346$Ml5....@fx24.iad>):

It’s almost like I forgot I was talking to an idiot liberal. Let me help -
“believe in the claims of sociology”. We all know the “science”
exists.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 16, 2020, Dutch wrote
(in article <0MA8H.73346$Ml5....@fx24.iad>):

Tim was talking about GOP supporters. Do you think those folks support the
GOP?

> > > Climate Change denial
> >
> > No one denies climate change. You are being dishonest
>
> GMAFB, you lying sack of shit. You know very well that the issue of
> "Climate Change" as described in scientific journals means that extremes
> in weather are directly caused by heating of the earth's atmosphere
> which is caused by greenhouse gas emissions, exacerbated by human use of
> fossil fuels. It's shortened to "Climate Change" for convenience.

I know what climate change is. You are not going to teach me anything. There
is strong disagreement on all those little details of yours. Is that too hard
for you to understand? Science, to the left, is simply declaring whatever
they want to be true, and shouting down whoever disagrees - in fact shouting
down, and threatening prosecution. Back to the Star Chamber, then.

> , as all liberals do,
> > all the time. You know that it’s just a teensy bit more complex than that.
> > Too complex for liberals, I suppose.
>
> Yeah right, science is too hard for liberals. That's a good one.

It’s either too hard, or too awkward when it conflicts with their magical
thinking.

[Dutch]

On 2020-09-16 10:07 p.m., Bill Vanek wrote:
> Yep, Jews and/or Israel.

Two different issues. Most Jews are Democrats. Jews are hated by right
wing extremists because they welcome the stranger. Right wingers are
suspicious of the stranger. Liberals are inclined to hold Israel to
account in their dealings with Palestine, not pander to them.

> Just like liberalism makes white people hate
> themselves - and other whites - for being white.

What horseshit. Acknowledging white privilege is not about hating
yourself, or anyone else.

> There is definitely a whole
> lot of hate going around on the left. That’s what they do. It’s part of
> their religion.

A lot of projection going on right there. That whole post dripped with hate.

[Dutch]

It must be very disturbing to you, the very idea of blacks demanding to
be treated as equal to whites. How uppity of them.

, and all
> of the left, with any serious concern over abortion.

Oh really.. how enlightened of you to take such an important issue so
lightly.

> Abortion is a troubling
> issue for anyone who can think - anyone with an open mind.

How does seeing only one side of the issue qualify you as the one with
the open mind?

> That’s why
> it’s so simple for the left. Simple thoughts for simple minds, as always.
> You have no core principles, and that appears to be very much a liberal
> thing.

You have it ass-backwards. Treating every embryo as a person with rights
is the most simplistic way of looking at the issue. It totally ignores
the privacy, health and future of the woman and her family, as well as
the financial and social issues. It's why simple-minded religious bigots
see it that way. It seeks to bring the strong arm of the state down on a
person's most private decision. But it's only women, so Republicans have
no problem with it.

[Dutch]

That's it? That's your response to the entire post? GTFOH

[Dutch]

Absolutely! More so than ever now that "The GOP" has collapsed into a
cult of personality, in the person of a raging bigot named Donald Trump.

>>>> Climate Change denial
>>>
>>> No one denies climate change. You are being dishonest
>>
>> GMAFB, you lying sack of shit. You know very well that the issue of
>> "Climate Change" as described in scientific journals means that extremes
>> in weather are directly caused by heating of the earth's atmosphere
>> which is caused by greenhouse gas emissions, exacerbated by human use of
>> fossil fuels. It's shortened to "Climate Change" for convenience.
>
> I know what climate change is. You are not going to teach me anything. There
> is strong disagreement on all those little details of yours. Is that too hard
> for you to understand? Science, to the left, is simply declaring whatever
> they want to be true,

Oh fuck off. Climate science is not a left wing conspiracy, look the
fuck around you. Climate change is settled science.

and shouting down whoever disagrees - in fact shouting
> down, and threatening prosecution. Back to the Star Chamber, then.

I didn't say you were ignorant of what climate change means, I said you
were a dishonest sack of shit when emitted this piece of garbage "No one
denies climate change. You are being dishonest". You fucking deny
climate change, right above. And don't give me this "Liberals want to
force us to listen to science" bullshit. The future of life on this
planet depends on us acting on it. There's no time left for your tantrums.

>
>> , as all liberals do,
>>> all the time. You know that it’s just a teensy bit more complex than that.
>>> Too complex for liberals, I suppose.
>>
>> Yeah right, science is too hard for liberals. That's a good one.
>
> It’s either too hard, or too awkward when it conflicts with their magical
> thinking.

OMFG! Half of Republicans don't believe in evolution.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 11:42:47 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:




>
> Two different issues. Most Jews are Democrats. Jews are hated by right
> wing extremists because they welcome the stranger.

It's all in your mind, lunatic. We don't hate Jews, we like Jews. We hate people like you, and that's all. Because you're a communist piece of shit. Plus you're the goofiest asshole on this newsgroup. Someone did a number on you in your childhood, fuckface. Eat shit and die, and then wherever you go, eat shit again.

[Tim Norfolk]

Which explains the 'Jews will not replace us' chants at Charlottesville.

[Tim Norfolk]

Did you engage your brain at all in this reply?

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 7:52:10 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:




>
> Which explains the 'Jews will not replace us' chants at Charlottesville.

I will stand by my statement. Rightwing Christians love Jews. And we support Israel.

Believe Goebbels if you want. You are a defacto Nazi.

[BillB]

"We". LOLOL If you're a Christian then I'm an astronaut.

[VegasJerry]

Multiple posts of Vanishing Vanek trolling Dutch in order to find somebody that will actually reply to him, ignored.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 17, 2020, Tim Norfolk wrote
(in article<dcda9d83-8ea1-42c6...@googlegroups.com>):

Yes.

[Dutch]

Are you a right wing extremist?

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 1:23:28 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:



>
> Are you a right wing extremist?

If I were on the extreme end of an accurate political spectrum I would favor no government, I'm not an anarchist, you stupid mutherfucker. I favor a limited government as suggested by our country's Founders. Whereas you are at the extreme Left, favoring total government. Essentially, you favor a Kingdom.

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 17, 2020, Dutch wrote
(in article <6KD8H.55824$RY8....@fx48.iad>):

Your ignorance is all consuming. Did you ever read what they believe on their
website? You can still find it, but it appears that they removed it from
their own site - a bit inconvenient right now, if you know what I mean. They
are Marxists who want to destroy this country. There is no other way to put
it.

> , and all
> > of the left, with any serious concern over abortion.
>
> Oh really.. how enlightened of you to take such an important issue so
> lightly.

What does that make you?

> > Abortion is a troubling
> > issue for anyone who can think - anyone with an open mind.
>
> How does seeing only one side of the issue qualify you as the one with
> the open mind?

WTF?

> > That’s why
> > it’s so simple for the left. Simple thoughts for simple minds, as always.
> > You have no core principles, and that appears to be very much a liberal
> > thing.
>
> You have it ass-backwards. Treating every embryo as a person with rights
> is the most simplistic way of looking at the issue. It totally ignores
> the privacy, health and future of the woman and her family, as well as
> the financial and social issues. It's why simple-minded religious bigots
> see it that way. It seeks to bring the strong arm of the state down on a
> person's most private decision. But it's only women, so Republicans have
> no problem with it.

Well that’s the thing, it’s not only women. Remember the other life?

[Bill Vanek]

On Sep 17, 2020, Dutch wrote
(in article <LVD8H.274816$HY4....@fx37.iad>):

To the left, science is settled whenever they agree with it, and nothing
more.

> and shouting down whoever disagrees - in fact shouting
> > down, and threatening prosecution. Back to the Star Chamber, then.
>
> I didn't say you were ignorant of what climate change means, I said you
> were a dishonest sack of shit when emitted this piece of garbage "No one
> denies climate change. You are being dishonest". You fucking deny
> climate change, right above. And don't give me this "Liberals want to
> force us to listen to science" bullshit. The future of life on this
> planet depends on us acting on it. There's no time left for your tantrums.

Yes, AOC warned us. She is the wise one...

> > > , as all liberals do,
> > > > all the time. You know that it’s just a teensy bit more complex than
> > > > that.
> > > > Too complex for liberals, I suppose.
> > >
> > > Yeah right, science is too hard for liberals. That's a good one.

You ignorant
fuck:<https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-
conspiracy/wp/2014/02/25/most-democrats-dont-know-it-takes-a-year-for-the-
earth-to-go-around-the-sun/>

> > It’s either too hard, or too awkward when it conflicts with their magical
> > thinking.
>
> OMFG! Half of Republicans don't believe in evolution.

Your appetite for ignorance is insatiable. Do you have any intellectual
curiosity at all? That claim is based mostly on the belief that God created
us, as opposed to us descending from other animals. Other than that,
evolution is pretty much accepted as widely as with liberals. And do you have
any idea what percentage of liberals believe in evolution? It’s higher than
conservatives, but it ain’t all that high for the geniuses you think you
all are. And worse yet, who do you think is *far* more likely to believe in
pseudo-science (like sociology, for one), astrology, the paranormal, and
superstitions? But nope! No magical thinking there...

[Dutch]

I'm a Social Democrat. It's the preferred form of government among the
most successful nations on earth. By "successful form of government" I
mean a form of government that creates an environment which maximizes
the health, safety, success and happiness of all its citizens. It's
nothing like a Kingdom. The US is moving in the direction of a kingdom
right now, the Kingdom of Trumpland.

[Dutch]

What is so difficult? You seem blisfully unaware that there are two
sides to the issue.

>
>>> That’s why
>>> it’s so simple for the left. Simple thoughts for simple minds, as always.
>>> You have no core principles, and that appears to be very much a liberal
>>> thing.
>>
>> You have it ass-backwards. Treating every embryo as a person with rights
>> is the most simplistic way of looking at the issue. It totally ignores
>> the privacy, health and future of the woman and her family, as well as
>> the financial and social issues. It's why simple-minded religious bigots
>> see it that way. It seeks to bring the strong arm of the state down on a
>> person's most private decision. But it's only women, so Republicans have
>> no problem with it.
>
> Well that’s the thing, it’s not only women. Remember the other life?
>

Are you offering to adopt and care for every unwanted baby until they
reach adulthood? Or support the mother financially? Are you prepared to
deal with the social fallout from millions of babies being born and
abandoned, financially, emotionally or literally? And millions of women
having lives and careers derailed? For what? In my lifetime the human
population has gone from 2.5 billion to approaching 8. Overpopulation is
one of the drivers behind mass human displacement, unemployment,
pandemics and climate change. Do we really need unwanted births? Nature
aborts embryos all the time.

[Dutch]

On 2020-09-17 6:40 p.m., Bill Vanek wrote:
>> Oh fuck off. Climate science is not a left wing conspiracy, look the
>> fuck around you. Climate change is settled science.
> To the left, science is settled whenever they agree with it, and nothing
> more.

No, science is settled when an overwhelming body of data and research
says it is.

>> and shouting down whoever disagrees - in fact shouting
>>> down, and threatening prosecution. Back to the Star Chamber, then.
>> I didn't say you were ignorant of what climate change means, I said you
>> were a dishonest sack of shit when emitted this piece of garbage "No one
>> denies climate change. You are being dishonest". You fucking deny
>> climate change, right above. And don't give me this "Liberals want to
>> force us to listen to science" bullshit. The future of life on this
>> planet depends on us acting on it. There's no time left for your tantrums.
> Yes, AOC warned us. She is the wise one...

Yes, she is, because she listens to science.

>
>>>> , as all liberals do,
>>>>> all the time. You know that it’s just a teensy bit more complex than
>>>>> that.
>>>>> Too complex for liberals, I suppose.
>>>> Yeah right, science is too hard for liberals. That's a good one.
> You ignorant
> fuck:<https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-
> conspiracy/wp/2014/02/25/most-democrats-dont-know-it-takes-a-year-for-the-
> earth-to-go-around-the-sun/>
>
>>> It’s either too hard, or too awkward when it conflicts with their magical
>>> thinking.
>> OMFG! Half of Republicans don't believe in evolution.
> Your appetite for ignorance is insatiable. Do you have any intellectual
> curiosity at all? That claim is based mostly on the belief that God created
> us, as opposed to us descending from other animals. Other than that,

That's a pretty big "other". It basically tosses science into the garbage.

> evolution is pretty much accepted as widely as with liberals.

Most Creationists believe that not just humans but every animal was
created by God in it's finished form.

> And do you have
> any idea what percentage of liberals believe in evolution? It’s higher than
> conservatives, but it ain’t all that high for the geniuses you think you
> all are.

I'd guess it's about 2/1.

> And worse yet, who do you think is*far* more likely to believe in

> pseudo-science (like sociology, for one), astrology, the paranormal, and
> superstitions? But nope! No magical thinking there...

Here's a report
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/02/20/the-6-political-groups-least-likely-to-believe-astrology/

Seems like liberals are slightly more prone to believe in astrology.
I'll grant you that left wingers are more prone to woo woo paperback
belief systems. It seems to make up some of the difference on
traditional religion. There are people from all political stripes with a
need to "believe in something".

[da pickle]

Ah, the phony sock puppet tries the ultimate dodge!

[Tim Norfolk]

According to some right wing groups, they only want to save Jews so that they can be exterminated in Armageddon, as described in the Apocrypha.

[Satoshi Popinjay]

On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 9:12:51 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:



>
> According to some right wing groups, they only want to save Jews so that they can be exterminated in Armageddon, as described in the Apocrypha.

You're a seriously nasty person.

[Tim Norfolk]

Not my idea. It comes from groups who want to fulfill the prophecies, including rivers of blood.

[Clave]

Dogs and cats...living together...

[Satoshi Popinjay]

Nobody thinks that shit.

[Clave]

We all know how much you'd love to believe that.