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----- Original Message -----
From: "RazzO" <tico...@yahoo.com>
To: "William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Bill


: Hey Bill,
:
: I could care less about the Chip and Doyle and Russ stuff.

Bullshit. You are lying. If you don't care at all about Chip and Doyle and
Russ, then why have you spent so much time and energy the last five years
attacking Russ and defending Doyle? If you expect to be my friend, you need
to be completely honest with me. That means telling the truth about Chip
and Doyle not just to me, but to all of RGP.

I am tired of all the bullshit and nonsense. We both know that Chip and
Doyle are card cheats. They always have been and always will be. It is
time for you to make a full confession to RGP and tell them everything you
know about Chip and Doyle. It is time for you to tell RGP that, as one of
Chip and Doyle's minions, you have devoted the last five years to attacking
and discrediting Russ.

: If one of you feel some need to post your e-e-mail to me, go ahead.
:
: The reason that I initially declined to help you was because I don't want
the responsibility with your home and the contents in it.

Who said anything about your being responsible for anything??? All I am
asking is for you to come out to my house twice a week and feed and water my
cats. If my house gets broken into, you think I am going to blame you???
It is extremely unlikely that anyone would break into my house now. After
the first breakin, I put iron bars on all the doors and windows. All the
doors have dead bolt locks, and the doors have an iron bar door with an
additional lock. Plus, all the neighbors, including the local street gang,
are scared to death of me. More than once, I have transformed myself into
the Angel of Death and walked up and down the streets of my neighborhood
screaming --

"Listen all you dumbass Mexicans and White Trash, this is my neighborhood.
You all take orders from me. Nothing goes on in this neighborhood without
my approval. There will be no drug dealing or other criminal activity in
this neighborhood without my prior approval. If you are dealing drugs,
pimping whores, or fencing stolen property, I expect a cut of the action.
Is that perfectly clear to all of you? Anyone got anything to say to me? I
thought not."

When I transform myself into the Angel of Death, this is what I do.

I put on black Levis and a black Nike sweatshirt. Then I put on full body
armor. Then I put on a heavy leather black jacket. Then I put on my black
London Fog trenchcoat. Naturally all this bulk makes me look absolutely
huge -- like I weigh 500 pounds.

Then I put on a gun belt around my waist on top of my trench coat. On the
left side, I put on a Ruger .357 magnum revolver with a 3" barrel. On the
right side, I put on a Ruger .357 magnum revolver with 6" barrel. Then I
take my .300 Remington Magnum sniper rifle and sling it diagonally over my
right shoulder with the rifle behind my back, naturally. Then I take my M1A
.308 combat rifle and sling in diagonally over my left shoulder. In case
you don't know, the M1A is an exact replica of the legendary M-14, which is
the rifle I carried and trained with in both Marine Corps boot camp and
Marine Corps infantry training. Then I take a bandolier with quick reload
cylinders for both revolvers and loaded magazines for both rifles and sling
it over my right shoulder. Then I take another bandolier with 50 rounds of
12-gauge shotgun ammunition and sling it over my left shoulder. This
shotgun ammunition is 3" magnum shells each loaded with two ounces of BBs.

Then I put on my $200 Bausch and Lomb sunglasses. Then I put on my $300
black Stetson hat. Then I pick up my 12-gauge Winchester Defender with an
18" cylinder bore barrel and a seven-shot magazine extension. Then I load
my Winchester Defender with seven rounds of the aforementioned magnum
ammunition. Then I chamber a round in the shotgun and take the safety off.
Then I walk out into the street. As Carol King says, you can't talk to a
man with a shotgun in his hand.

You had better believe that there is no scarier sight on Earth than the
sight of Ramashiva transformed into the Angel of Death.

: Now you tell me you live in a bad neighborhood and have in fact been
broken in to.

Yes, I live in a bad neighborhood. But I am the baddest motherfucker in the
neighborhood, and all my neighbors know it.

:
: I also love cats as do you and Russ. I have had many cats as a child and
an adult. More than you, I'd bet.

I am not interested in getting into a pissing contest about who has had more
cats. I have always had many cats all my life, and I will continue to do
so. Do you know why I have so many cats? For the same reason witches and
warlocks like to keep cats around. Cats protect against evil spirits, the
same way dolphins protect against sharks.

: I am concerned for you and your cats...but, didn't you think your response
to my response was over the top and uncalled for?

Not at all. In fact it was quite restrained. If you had told me in person
what you told me in your email, I would have put you in the hospital or the
morgue.

You do not seem to understand what I have been going through since my father
died. First of all, it turns out that this guy Ray Calderon, whom my mother
hired to provide 24/7 care to my father, ripped off my dead father after he
died. It seems he stole a bottle containing about 100 Percocet tablets. In
case you don't know, Percocet is a Class I narcotic and goes for about
$5/tablet on the street. I have already confronted Ray about this, telling
him that if he stole drugs from my dead father and sold them illegally on
the street, I expect 50% of the action. He implicitly admitted that he had
in fact stole the Percocet and sold them on the street by agreeing that he
owed me $250 and would pay me ASAP.

Ray's story is that when a client dies, he throws all their prescription
drugs in the trash. Yeah right, Ray. Then why didn't you throw away the
rest of the shelf of prescription drugs he was taking? No doubt you will
say you only throw away Class I narcotics. Then why didn't you throw away
the bottle of 30-milligram Morphine Sulfate tablets? Must have been because
there were only five Morphine tablets, so you figured it wasn't worth your
while to steal the Morphine.

Now, yesterday, I finally realized that Ray also stole one of my father's
guns. When my mother first hired Ray, I put a .357 magnum revolver and an
expensive Italian .25 semi-automatic pistol in a dresser drawer in his
bedroom. After he had been caring for my father for a couple of days, I
asked him --

"Did you find the handguns I left in your dresser drawer?" His answer was
"yes". I then asked him, "Since you are a Viet Nam veteran, I assume you
know how to use those weapons?" Again, the answer was yes.

Now, in the aftermath of my father's death, my mother and I have been
inventorying all my father's personal property to decide what we want to
keep, what we want to sell, and what we want to give away. Do you
understand that a man accumulates an incredible amount of detritus in 87
years of life? Just yesterday, after a thorough search of the entire house,
I determined conclusively that the Italian .25 semi-automatic pistol is
missing.

All my father's guns are now my property. Anyone who steals my property can
expect severe consequences. Ray Calderon has an appointment with the Angel
of Death.

If this bullshit wasn't enough, one of my airhead cousins named Betty White
took it upon herself to steal my grandfather George Coleman's watch. George
Coleman gave this watch to my father Paul Coleman, who, in turn promised me
several times that the watch would be mine when he died. This is no
ordinary watch. It is at least 100 years old with a gold case. It is a
large round pocket watch. I have no idea what the watch is worth, but it
could easily be worth thousands of dollars as an antique.

Now Betty technically didn't steal the watch, since my mother gave it to
her. The only problem is, the watch was not my mother's to give. At the
moment of my father's death, the watch became my property. Now, neither my
mother nor cousin knew at the time that my father had promised the watch to
me. But they certainly know now. Here is what has transpired --

After the funeral, my mother said to Betty --

"Would you like your Grandfather Coleman's watch? I doubt William would be
interested in it."

Huh??? What the fuck??? I don't know where my mother ever got that idea,
but she has been coming up with a lot of weird shit since my father died.

Naturally, Betty readily accepted my mother's offer. Notice Betty did not
bother to ask my mother whether she was sure that I wouldn't be interested
in having my grandfather's watch. She then also asked whether she could
have a large framed color photograph of a church in North Carolina which my
great great great great grandfather Coleman (still named Kuhlmann) founded
about 1800.

In other words, my father was barely buried, and my cousin Betty was already
picking over my father's possessions like a vulture picking over a carcass.
Betty has a history of doing this. She pulled exactly the same stunt 25
years ago when my uncle Ray Coleman died. Uncle Ray was a wealthy man, and
had many fine personal possessions. My Uncle Ray was barely buried when she
and some of the other Coleman family went to his house in Chester, Illinois.
Again, picking over his possessions like vultures picking over a carcass. I
had previously gathered this had happened from remarks my father made when
he returned from Uncle Ray's funeral. I confirmed the story in detail
yesterday when I talked to my cousin Jerry Coleman to ask him to mediate
what has now become a major crisis over my grandfather's watch. I asked him
if there was any truth to the story that Betty and some of my other Coleman
cousins had gone to Uncle Ray's house right after the funeral and divvied up
his personal possessions. You know -- Here's a nice cashmere sweater: I'll
take that. Here's a nice leather coat; why don't you take that? Jerry
confirmed to me that this had indeed happened, because he witnessed it first
hand. I asked Jerry if Betty White had participated in this looting of
Uncle Ray's personal possessions. He confirmed that she did. I asked Jerry
if he had participated in this sacrilege to my Uncle Ray's memory. He told
me that no, of course he hadn't, but he witnessed it. I asked him if he
found such behavior totally disgusting in the aftermath of the burial of a
rich relative. He said, yes, of course he did.

Jerry also told me that he had a similar experience to my experience with
our grandfather's watch after Uncle Ray died. Uncle Ray had a very nice
four-carat men's diamond ring which he promised to Jerry when he died. But
Uncle Ray forgot to put that detail in his will. After Uncle Ray's death,
Jerry searched Ray's house, but could not find the diamond ring. He told
all the Coleman relatives that had participated in the looting of Uncle
Ray's house that the ring had been promised to him, and that whoever took it
should return it. No one admitted to taking the ring, but it mysteriously
showed up as an anonymous Christmas present the following Christmas. In
other words, the Coleman family, of which I am ashamed to be a member, is
populated by thieves and vultures.

Now, I didn't even know that my mother had given my grandfather's watch to
Betty until about a week ago. In other words, for three weeks, my mother
never even bothered to mention to me that she had given the watch to Betty.
I had noticed that the watch was missing from its display case, but just
assumed it had been put away for safekeeping.

About nine days ago, my mother brought out a steel lock box with some of my
father's personal possessions in order to inventory them. I discovered that
my father was somewhat of a coin collector and had a stash of silver coins.
The box also included two Pierre Cardin watches with gold bracelets and a
large diamond on the face of each. These watches reminded me of my
grandfather's watch, so I asked my mother where was my grandfather's watch.
She replied that she had given the watch to Betty, because she didn't think
I had any interest in it. Naturally, I went ballistic, and my mother and I
had a three day knock down drag out shouting match, during which she totally
infuriated me by refusing to give me Betty's number so I could call her and
demand the return of the watch. Eventually, she gave me Betty's phone
number and I called Betty.

I informed Betty that the watch was my property and was not my mother's to
give away. She told me that she didn't have the watch -- that she had given
the watch to Kenneth Pribble, who is Betty's brother and also my first
cousin.

I informed her that Kenneth was in possession of stolen property and that I
demanded that he return it immediately. She laughed at the idea that the
watch was stolen property, so I explained this to her --

At the moment of my father's death, the watch became my property. This
property was taken without the knowledge, permission, or approval of the
owner of the property. That is the definition of stolen property.

I then ORDERED her to tell Kenneth to take the watch down to a Federal
Express office the next day and ship it to my Las Vegas address insured for
$5000. She said she would do so.

After three days or so, the watch hadn't shown up, so my mother called Betty
and asked whether Kenneth had shipped me the watch. Betty said he hadn't
had a chance to do so, but that she would make sure Kenneth sent the watch
right away. Betty also said that Kenneth would mail the watch, not Fedex
it, and that he would send it to my mother's Boulder City address, not my
Las Vegas address. So for the next few days, my mother and I waited around
at her house in Boulder City for the mail to come, because we figured we
would have to sign for the watch. After a week, still no watch. So, two
days ago, I called Betty again and asked her what the fuck was going on.
She told me Kenneth still hadn't had a chance to mail the watch, but she
would make sure he did so right away. I again explained to her that Kenneth
was in possession of stolen property, and he didn't get to decide to mail it
instead of Fedex it, and that he didn't get to decide to send it to my
mother's Boulder City address rather than my Las Vegas address.

Then, yesterday morning, I got a phone call from a woman I didn't even know
existed. I answered the phone and a woman's voice asked in an imperious
tone -- "Is this William Coleman?"

I answered, "Yes it is. Who the fuck is this?"

She responded, "Shut up, you foul-mouthed idiot."

I responded, "Listen, lady, I don't know who the fuck you think you are, but
NO ONE talks to me like that."

She responded, "I am Betty Jo Ann Pribble. That's who I am."

I responded, "I have never heard of you. Who are you again?"

She responded, "I am the wife of Kenneth Pribble, your cousin."

I responded, "Oh, you mean my cousin Kenneth Pribble, who is in possession
of stolen property which is mine, and refuses to return it?"

She responded, "The watch is not stolen property. You are an idiot."

I responded, "Listen, you whore bitch from hell, the watch most certainly is
stolen property. The watch was taken without my knowledge, approval, or
permission. That makes it stolen property. And I am most certainly not an
idiot. I have a 200+ IQ and I can prove it. I have my IQ test scores. I
ordered Betty White over a week ago to tell Kenneth to Fedex me the watch
insured for $5000. I am still waiting."

She responded, "I want you to stop calling Betty White and harassing her."

I responded, "Huh??? Lady, you do not tell me who I can and cannot call.
You are not in any way part of the Coleman family. You are not my blood
relative. You are not Betty White's blood relative. Betty and I are first
cousins. We are blood relatives. You do not tell me I cannot call my first
cousin whenever I want. Got that? Now when are you or Kenneth going to
Fedex me the watch insured for $5000?"

She replied, "We are not rich like you are. We can't afford to send it that
way."

I replied, "Rich??? What the fuck are you talking about??? I'm not rich.
I am broke. I barely make enough money to scrape by. If my mother had not
provided me a house to live in rent-free for the past twelve years, I would
probably be out on the streets."

At this point, Kenneth Pribble, who had obviously been listening in on
another phone, pipes up, "Then get on welfare, you worthless bum."

To which I replied, "Uhh, Kenneth. Who exactly do you think you are talking
to? This is your cousin William Coleman. I could stomp you into a grease
spot on the ground in about five seconds. You do not talk to men like me in
that way. Haven't you learned that yet?"

Kenneth replied, "Listen, you do not have a 200+ IQ. You are an idiot. You
try anything like that and I will have Tracey White kick your ass."

I laughed hilariously and said, "Tracey White? That fat ass piece of dog
shit? He wouldn't last five seconds with me in a fight. Now Kenneth, you
have called me a worthless bum and an idiot. I expect you to retract those
remarks immediately and apologize, otherwise you can expect severe
consequences. Consequences that not Tracey White nor anyone else will be
able to prevent."

And the conversation went downhill from there. You get the idea. Tracey
White, as you probably don't know, is Betty's son and Kenneth's nephew. He
is 6'4" and weighs about 350. He thinks he is a tough guy. Like I said, he
wouldn't last five seconds with me in a fight. Immediately after he threw
the first punch, he would be on the ground, either dead, or with multiple
skull fractures and other broken bones.

So you see, Darryl, I already have my plate full with hassles. I thought I
had the cat situation handled with you. Remember when I first talked to you
months ago about this, and I told you I might be making an out of town trip
and needed someone to feed and water my cats? I told you I would help you
with your computer for free if I could count on you to feed and water my
cats while I was out of town. I thought we had an agreement to that effect.
I guess not.

: The problem is the responsibility, as I said. Now what?

Now you need to give me a definite answer as to whether you can feed and
water my cats. Otherwise, I will have to make arrangements to board them at
a cost of $90 per day. And you need to come clean on RGP about Chip and
Doyle, and also about Doug Dalton and Bobby Baldwin.

We both know that Doug and Bobby have been letting Chip and Doyle fleece the
rich tourists for years, in exchange for a piece of the action. I warned
both Doug and Bobby in my first posting of "RAMASHIVA ON DOUG DALTON" that
they needed to comply with my request to reinstate my poker playing
privileges at the Mirage and the Bellagio, or they would face the wrath of
Ramashiva.

Doug and Bobby have not complied. Doug and Bobby will now face the wrath of
Ramashiva. You need to pick sides here, Darryl. On one side are Doug
Dalton, Bobby Baldwin, Chip Reese, and Doyle Brunson.

On the other side are William Coleman, Russ Georgiev, and anyone else who
wants to bring down the corrupt cheating Poker Mafia once and for all.
Whose side are you on, Darryl? I like my side. How about you?


William Coleman (ramashiva)

Department of Agitation, Propaganda, and Demagoguery
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IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)

Sell all your possessions, give the money to the poor, and come, follow me.

-- Jesus Christ

God told me to smite Al Qaeda, so I smote them. Then God told me to smite
Saddam, so I smote him also.

-- George W. Bush, Liberator of Afghanistan and Iraq


Porsche_Dan

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Aug 26, 2006, 5:22:23 PM8/26/06
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Howard Beale

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Aug 26, 2006, 5:55:25 PM8/26/06
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Many of you have 'Ramashiva' kill-filed so may be missing the above post.
It's one of William's best of all time so I'm giving you a heads-up and a
link in case you want to check it out.


http://tinyurl.com/ofeuo


Howard Beale

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William Coleman

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Aug 26, 2006, 7:05:53 PM8/26/06
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"Howard Beale" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:djs6s3x...@recgroups.com...
: Many of you have 'Ramashiva' kill-filed so may be missing the above post.

: It's one of William's best of all time so I'm giving you a heads-up and a
: link in case you want to check it out.

I thought I had you killfiled, or did you killfile me? I forget. Either
way, this post is bullshit. If you have killfiled me, what are you doing
reading my post? If I have you killfiled, what are you doing showing up in
my newsreader? What did you do, change your email address so I would see
your post? If so, you are pathetic and starved for attention from me.

: http://tinyurl.com/ofeuo

I don't click on tinyurls, because I am not interested in seeing a picture
of goat boy or tub girl. Or visiting a virus-infected web page. Tinyurls
are obsolete and unnecessary, as I have previously explained to Bill
Bradley, and he stopped using them. Outlook Express, recpoker, and Google
Groups all allow for URLs of arbitrary length, so there is no reason to use
a tinyurl.

Paul Popinjay

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Aug 26, 2006, 7:10:38 PM8/26/06
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"Howard Beale" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:djs6s3x...@recgroups.com...

> Many of you have 'Ramashiva' kill-filed so may be missing the above post.


> It's one of William's best of all time so I'm giving you a heads-up and a
> link in case you want to check it out.
>
>


Many of you have 'Howard Beale' kill-filed so may be missing the above post.

Porsche_Dan

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:01:09 PM8/26/06
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Now that is FUNNY!

Howard Beale

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Aug 26, 2006, 7:53:34 PM8/26/06
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On Aug 26 2006 5:05 PM, William Coleman wrote:

> "Howard Beale" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:djs6s3x...@recgroups.com...
> : Many of you have 'Ramashiva' kill-filed so may be missing the above post.
> : It's one of William's best of all time so I'm giving you a heads-up and a
> : link in case you want to check it out.
>
> I thought I had you killfiled, or did you killfile me? I forget. Either
> way, this post is bullshit. If you have killfiled me, what are you doing
> reading my post? If I have you killfiled, what are you doing showing up in
> my newsreader? What did you do, change your email address so I would see
> your post? If so, you are pathetic and starved for attention from me.
>
> : http://tinyurl.com/ofeuo
>
> I don't click on tinyurls, because I am not interested in seeing a picture
> of goat boy or tub girl. Or visiting a virus-infected web page. Tinyurls
> are obsolete and unnecessary, as I have previously explained to Bill
> Bradley, and he stopped using them. Outlook Express, recpoker, and Google
> Groups all allow for URLs of arbitrary length, so there is no reason to use
> a tinyurl.
>
>
> William Coleman (ramashiva)
>
> Department of Agitation, Propaganda, and Demagoguery


YOU said you kill-filed ME. I would never kill-file you, you are too
precious and this post of yours is some next level stuff. Long live
Ramashiva! Next time I'll try not using the tiny's if you say it's
unnecessary.


HB

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Howard Beale

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Aug 26, 2006, 7:56:53 PM8/26/06
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Hey! I'm providing a service here! Remember the 'Heather' posts? I did
the same thing with those and many of the people who had Ramashiva blocked
thanked me for it, they were that good. The 'Angel of Death' story in
this current post is a must see, imo.


HB

epeddy1

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:03:05 PM8/26/06
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Just so you know Mr. Coleman, I don't have you kill-filed, and probably won't. 
I'd love to debate another issue with you again in the future, keeps my blood
flowing with heat.  Just try and keep the personal comments to a minimum, as
will I.  Or is that too much to ask?

On Aug 26 2006 4:05 PM, William Coleman wrote:

> "Howard Beale" wrote in message

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James L. Hankins

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:08:57 PM8/26/06
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"Howard Beale" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:5n37s3x...@recgroups.com...


> Hey! I'm providing a service here! Remember the 'Heather' posts? I did
> the same thing with those and many of the people who had Ramashiva blocked
> thanked me for it, they were that good. The 'Angel of Death' story in
> this current post is a must see, imo.


It is an instant classic. Willie must be an excellent typist as well. The
shear volume of words is impressive.


TheFleece

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:22:56 PM8/26/06
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> ..308 combat rifle and sling in diagonally over my left shoulder. In case

You're funny.


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William Coleman

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:23:39 PM8/26/06
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"epeddy1" <4308...@recpoker.com> wrote in message
news:1156636985$859...@recpoker.com...
: Just so you know Mr. Coleman, I don't have you kill-filed, and probably
won't.
: I'd love to debate another issue with you again in the future, keeps my
blood
: flowing with heat. Just try and keep the personal comments to a minimum,
as
: will I. Or is that too much to ask?

Yes, it is too much to ask. I do not tolerate fools and idiots, and your
posts clearly reveal that you are both. Until you learn to address your
intellectual superiors with respect and humility, you can expect to continue
to receive the same type of merciless flames and insults that you were on
the receiving end of today.

William Coleman

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:28:25 PM8/26/06
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"James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net[no spam]> wrote in message
news:vo5Ig.4299$_q4.637@dukeread09...
:
: "Howard Beale" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

Jesus H. Christ, does the law school you attended admit students who can't
spell? "shear"? I think you mean "sheer".


William Coleman (ramashiva)

Department of Agitation, Propaganda, and Demagoguery
________________________

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http://www.ramashivarules.blogspot.com

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or higher and turn off Ad Blocking. Please help me out by clicking on the
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right, and the Google ads.

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IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)

Sell all your possessions, give the money to the poor, and come, follow me.

-- Jesus Christ

God told me to smite Al Qaeda, so I smote them. Then God told me to smite
Saddam, so I smote him also.

:
:


Camillo

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:32:05 PM8/26/06
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I think I'm in love with you William

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Susan

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"Paul Popinjay" <pape...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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William Coleman

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"Howard Beale" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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Are you sure you never killfiled me? My recollection of this is hazy. If I
said I killfiled you, then I did. Either you changed your email address, or
my killfile got fucked up. Since you are out of my killfile, I will offer
you the same terms as my probationary trolls.

First, you must post using the posting identity I give you, or a suitable
alternative you suggest. In your case, my suggestion is "Jackoff Jew".

I am most certainly going to kill file any variation of "Howard Beale". You
are in no way like Howard Beale. You are not mad as hell and not going to
take it anymore. You are a classic establishment, go along to get along,
kind of guy. You may also post using your real verified name. That is the
alternative I would prefer. Posting using your real name is the only
authentic way to post to a usenet newsgroup. Many of us here on RGP post
with our real names, because we are real people. We are interested in
having conversations with other real people who post with their real names.

We are not interested in having conversations with anonymous trolls, who, in
many cases, are just sock puppets of well known posters. I have no interest
in playing such childish games.

As of this moment, "Howard Beale" and all variations are killfiled. You may
post as "Jackoff Jew", another alternative identity which I must approve, or
your real name. In all cases, please identify yourself in the post as the
poster formerly known as Howard Beale.

You must also obey my rules for probationary trolls --

Don't talk back.

Don't argue with me.

Do what I say.


William Coleman (ramashiva)

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William Coleman

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:I think I'm in love with you William

I certainly hope you are a woman, and a young good looking one at that. I
certainly hope you are not an assfucking, cocksucking, limp-wristed,
HIV-infected faggot.

And I also hope you are not some frightfully ugly harridan like Linda
Sherman or Patti Beadles, or whatever the fuck her name is.

William Coleman

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:
:

You are easily amused.


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"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Jesus H. Christ, does the law school you attended admit students who can't
> spell? "shear"? I think you mean "sheer".

Thank you, William. You are too kind.


Paul Popinjay

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"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Howard Beale" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ug37s3x...@recgroups.com...

>


> First, you must post using the posting identity I give you, or a suitable
> alternative you suggest. In your case, my suggestion is "Jackoff Jew".
>

Howard, before you make a decision on this, let me just remind you how
fortunate I feel I am to be given a second chance by changing my name to
Paul Popinjay and being released from his killfile. I like to compare it to
being able to go back in time and buying gold for under $200 an ounce.
Wouldn't that be an opportunity of a lifetime?

Howard, if you ask William nicely, maybe he would accept "JJ".

Don't miss this opportunity.

-Paul Popinjay


jimpepper

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Snip> :

> : You're funny.
>
> You are easily amused.
>
>
> William Coleman (ramashiva)
>

 Funny has more than one meaning.
jim

bub

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many of you have me killfiled so you aren't even reading this .

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:41:16 -0500, "Susan" <sdbr...@netscape.net>
wrote:

Welchy the Welcher

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On Aug 26 2006 7:02 PM, bub wrote:

> many of you have me killfiled so you aren't even reading this .
>
>

Everyone has me killfiled, so in essence, I never made this post.

Paul Popinjay

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>

> Everyone has me killfiled, so in essence, I never made this post.
>
>


Geez I'd like to know who you are someday. Really, I have no clue.


bub

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good luck... i think he has you killfiled

RazzO

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This below is truly funny, Dan.

I have e-mailed Bill and asked him if I can set up a meeting to agree to
watch his cats and be shown what to do and stuff.

I will not debate the Chip, Doyle and RazzO vs Russ G issue. However, if
Bill (or Russ after all this time) can offer any proof that the two have
cheated (besides just saying they are cheats) I will listen.

On Aug 26 2006 5:01 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

> Paul Popinjay wrote:
> > "Howard Beale" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

> > Many of you have 'Howard Beale' kill-filed so may be missing the above


post.
> > It's one of William's best of all time so I'm giving you a heads-up and a
> > link in case you want to check it out.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/ofeuo
>
> Now that is FUNNY!


RazzO
http://www.razzo.com
email:ticorazz (at) yahoo.com

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"Paul Popinjay" <pape...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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: "Welchy the Welcher" <4307...@recpoker.com> wrote in message

: news:1156644836$860...@recpoker.com...
: >
:
: > Everyone has me killfiled, so in essence, I never made this post.
: >
: >
:
:
: Geez I'd like to know who you are someday. Really, I have no clue.

As I have previously indicated, Mo Ron Charles is the odds on favorite to be
the sock puppetmaster of Welchy. He admitted as much in a post, but when I
asked him to confirm or deny that Welchy was his sock puppet, I got no
answer.

I also believe that Bell Dingbat, AKA Beldin the Sorcerer, is one of Mo
Ron's sock puppets. I am pretty sure that Mo Ron is Beldin's sock
puppetmaster who showed his complete ignorance of basic mathematics and how
social security works in the debate I had with Bell Dingbat on social
security.

Of course, Mo Ron Charles is itself an anonymous troll handle. Why is Mo
Ron afraid to tell us his real name? Probably because he would be instantly
fired from his job if his employer ever found out about the hateful spew he
posts regularly to RGP.

Mo Ron Charles is in for a big surprise someday. The internet is not as
anonymous as he thinks it is. I know I could easily find out exactly who he
is and exactly where he lives with a few hours of research. But, again, Mo
Ron is not even on my radar screen of problems to deal with right now. I
already have my plate full with more pressing problems which need to be
solved.

I know Mo Ron's user id at Poker Stars. All I need is an inside connection
at Poker Stars to tell me the real name and real address of the user known
as k1d_qu1ck. Do you understand that I may already have such an inside
source at Poker Stars, or know someone who has such an inside source?

By the way, if anyone at Poker Stars is as fed up as I am with Mo Ron's
ignorant, arrogant bullshit, please anonymously forward to me Mo Ron's real
name and real address. I will take care of the rest and ratfuck Mo Ron's
life so thoroughly that he will never realize what happened to him.

Listen, Mo Ron. You better start watching what you post. If you irritate
me enough, I will spend the necessary time to find out exactly who you are
and exactly where you live. Once I have that information, it is a trivial
matter to find out who employs you. If i ever get this information, rest
assured that I will forward hundreds of pages of your hateful spew to your
employer.

You are fucking with the wrong dude, Mo Ron. If you are smart, you will
steer clear of me and not give me any shit about anything.

Got that? Good.

Paul Popinjay

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"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> I also believe that Bell Dingbat, AKA Beldin the Sorcerer, is one of Mo
> Ron's sock puppets. I am pretty sure that Mo Ron is Beldin's sock
> puppetmaster who showed his complete ignorance of basic mathematics and
> how
> social security works in the debate I had with Bell Dingbat on social
> security.
>

I doubt that Mo = Beldin. I suspect that it is more likely that there are
actually TWO separate people who share such complete ignorance of
mathematics and how social security works.


William Coleman

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: This below is truly funny, Dan.

:
: I have e-mailed Bill and asked him if I can set up a meeting to agree to
: watch his cats and be shown what to do and stuff.

Forget it, Darryl. You have shown yourself to be an irresponsible liar who
does not keep his commitments. I am quite certain that you told me several
months ago that if I gave you free help with your computer, you would feed
and water my cats if I needed to make an out of town trip.

I gave you the free help, remember? I spent nine hours and spent the entire
night working on your computer problems. Now you tell me that you cannot
feed and water my cats???

I have seen your true face, Darryl. Forget about being my friend or getting
my help or advice on any matter whatsoever.

: I will not debate the Chip, Doyle and RazzO vs Russ G issue. However, if


: Bill (or Russ after all this time) can offer any proof that the two have
: cheated (besides just saying they are cheats) I will listen.

Oh, please, Darryl. You are not even close to being qualified to discuss
collusion and cheating at cards with Russ and me. Your challenge is
nonsense. By its very nature, collusion done right is undetectable and
leaves no evidence or proof, especially in brick and mortar cardrooms. How
are you ever going to prove that two players are colluding and signalling?
How are you ever going to prove that a marked deck was in use when the
floorman, who is in on the scam, comes and changes out the marked cards for
a legitimate deck?

The proof that Chip and Doyle are cheats comes from the cheaters grapevine.
You do understand that card cheats and colluders have regular discussions
about which card rooms are whose territory, and who are running what scams
at which cardrooms?

This information is inherently reliable, since card cheats have no incentive
to lie to each other about who is cheating and where. They need to have
this information to know where they can play and where they cannot. Do you
understand that if a rival cheating pack tried to move in on Chip and
Doyle's lucrative scam at the Bellagio, that there would be open warfare
between rival Poker Mafia gangs???

Of course you understand none of this, since you are a clueless celebrity
whore who loves to brag about all the poker celebrities with whom you are
friends. I am sure you have considered it to be a real feather in your cap
that you are my only friend in Las Vegas, who can talk to me on the
telephone anytime he wants, and socialize with me anytime he wants.

Those days are OVER, Darryl. And I mean OVER. We made an agreement for
exchange of services. I provided the services I agreed to provide. Now you
have welched on your end of the deal, and told me you cannot take care of my
cats, as you previously promised.

Go back and stick your brown nose up Doyle's ass. I want nothing more to do
with you.

Listen, Darryl. As far as I am concerned, Russ has more credibility than
any other poster on RGP. Everything he has ever told me would happen has
happened. Many of the things he has told me about cheating in big money
games and big money tournaments have been verified by other knowledgeable
poker insiders whose names I obviously cannot disclose, since Chip and
Doyle's Poker Mafia would come down on them hard.

Do you really have any idea what a total fool you have made of yourself
trying to discredit Russ, when you lack both the knowledge of poker in
general, and knowledge of collusion and card cheating in particular, to even
be qualified to have a discussion with Russ in these subject areas?

If Russ tells me that he has heard from multiple sources on the cheaters
grapevine that Chip and Doyle have been running a multi-million dollar scam
operation at first the Mirage, now the Bellagio, then I believe Russ. He
has credibility with me. You have none.

James L. Hankins

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> I doubt that Mo = Beldin. I suspect that it is more likely that there are
> actually TWO separate people who share such complete ignorance of
> mathematics and how social security works.

I tend to agree. I haven't read mo since I killfiled him but I highly doubt
he is Beldin. Looks like he pissed off Willie somethin' fierce, though.


Chris in Texas

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On Aug 26 2006 9:13 PM, Welchy the Welcher wrote:

>
>
>
> On Aug 26 2006 7:02 PM, bub wrote:
>
> > many of you have me killfiled so you aren't even reading this .
> >
> >
> Everyone has me killfiled, so in essence, I never made this post.

Guess that makes me a nobody

:-(

 

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On Aug 26 2006 3:03 PM, William Coleman wrote:

<snip>

Aight, first, I sympathized because I go through hassles getting my cat and fish
taken care of (no mutual of Omaha, jokes, I've heard them already) when I
travel.  Then, I read your "angel of death" rant and was gonna make a smart-ass
comment about it being a good thing you wore the Stetson so you don't look
totally ridiculous, but then your story about your father's passing got me
feeling sympathetic again, but then, you bad-mouthed your mother on a public
forum during her time of grieving, and you know that shit don't sit right with
us Texans, but then, you salvaged yourself with the extremely funny
transcription of your conversation with your cousin's wife.

I sincerely hope you get your watch back (although you ought to let your mother
slide on her faux paux, in my humble opinion), and I hope you get your cat
situation taken care of.

Chris

William Coleman

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"Chris in Texas" <4307...@recpoker.com> wrote in message
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:
:
:

: On Aug 26 2006 3:03 PM, William Coleman wrote:
:
: <snip>
:
: Aight, first, I sympathized because I go through hassles getting my cat
and fish
: taken care of (no mutual of Omaha, jokes, I've heard them already) when I
: travel. Then, I read your "angel of death" rant and was gonna make a
smart-ass
: comment about it being a good thing you wore the Stetson so you don't look
: totally ridiculous,

LOL. With or without the Stetson, I assure you that when I transform into
the Angel of Death, I am absolutely the scariest looking motherfucker that
ever walked the face of the earth.

: but then your story about your father's passing got me


: feeling sympathetic again, but then, you bad-mouthed your mother on a
public
: forum during her time of grieving,

Where did I badmouth my mother??? Telling the truth about my mother or
anyone else is not badmouthing. It is telling the truth.

: and you know that shit don't sit right with


: us Texans, but then, you salvaged yourself with the extremely funny
: transcription of your conversation with your cousin's wife.
:
: I sincerely hope you get your watch back (although you ought to let your
mother
: slide on her faux paux, in my humble opinion)

How do you know I haven't? Are you privy to my conversations with my
mother? In fact, I already told my mother that I do not blame her for what
she did, because she is a grieving widow. I have already told her that I
had never given her any reason to think the watch was important to me. My
conversations about my grandfather's watch were with my father, not her. I
have had literally thousands of conversations with my father which she knows
absolutely nothing about. I plan to keep it that way, as I could easily
destroy her life by telling her about some of the conversations my father
which I have had. I am not angry or disappointed with my mother on this
matter. The only thing she did which angered me was claiming that she did
not know Betty's number, when she talks to Betty several times a week by
telephone, so she obviously knows Betty's number.


: and I hope you get your cat situation taken care of.

Don't worry, I will. If I have to bite the bullet and pay $1800 dollars to
board my cats, that is what I will do. $1800 is a lot of money to me, but
it is less than a third of my current poker bankroll, so my ability to play
$2/$4 holdem at Poker Stars and Party Poker would not be impacted.

epeddy1

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How many people think Coleman is just an old grandma with a pseudonym who
pretends to be smart, but only knows how to use Google and write with big words
to pretend he knows what he's talking about?


>
> Oh, please, Darryl. You are not even close to being qualified to discuss
> collusion and cheating at cards with Russ and me. Your challenge is
> nonsense. By its very nature, collusion done right is undetectable and
> leaves no evidence or proof, especially in brick and mortar cardrooms. How
> are you ever going to prove that two players are colluding and signalling?
> How are you ever going to prove that a marked deck was in use when the
> floorman, who is in on the scam, comes and changes out the marked cards for
> a legitimate deck?

What gives you qualification to discuss this issue.  And, the burden of proof
lies on the accuser with any accusation.  Don't have to be a game theorist to
know that.

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'Jackoff Jew?' Why can't I have a cool name like 'Popinjay?'

HB

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Howard Beale

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I'm somewhat in agreement (see above) but YOU got a 'cool' name. 'Jackoff
Jew' is in no way cool, no matter how it's spun. I don't know, I think he
won't killfile me anyway. Let's see.


HB

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"Howard Beale" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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If you don't like my suggestion, you can suggest your own alternative. Your
real name would be the best alternative, as that is the only authentic way
to post to usenet newsgroups.

Suggest an alternative, and I will approve it if I think it is appropriate.
How does "Jewboy Popinjay" sound? Sounds good to me.

Rats. I said I would killfile you, then I got distracted and forgot to do
so.

Immediately after I post this post, "Howard Beale" and all variations go
into my permanent killfile. You need to post under another handle and
identify yourself as the poster formerly known as Howard Beale.


William Coleman (ramashiva)

Department of Agitation, Propaganda, and Demagoguery

RazzO

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On Aug 26 2006 10:00 PM, William Coleman wrote:

> Forget it, Darryl. You have shown yourself to be an irresponsible liar who
> does not keep his commitments. I am quite certain that you told me several
> months ago that if I gave you free help with your computer, you would feed
> and water my cats if I needed to make an out of town trip.

Ah.. I thought there was a reason for all of this. This was your goal to
eventually say this. I said I would think about it and it would be
possible that I could do it for you. The postings to this were designed so
you could make the above comments all along. Why did it take you 5 days to
respond to my email informing you I couldn't feed and water your cats?
Then you send me "the first ramashiva to razzo email" asking me to
reconsider.

> I gave you the free help, remember? I spent nine hours and spent the entire
> night working on your computer problems. Now you tell me that you cannot
> feed and water my cats???

You ask here again if you gave me 'free' help on my PC. The answer is NO.
It wasn't free. Did I or did I not let you walk out of my house with a
fully functionally copy of a current version of a sealed installation disk
of Windows XP PRO from MS and allowed you to pry off the Pentium II
processor chip from an old PC? How is this working for FREE?

> I have seen your true face, Darryl. Forget about being my friend or getting
> my help or advice on any matter whatsoever.

I think it's a common fact, now, that you don't want to be my friend. It's
the verbiage in the last two 'ramashiva to razzo' e-mails that pretty much
already defines this. You wrote these two just emails just to publish to
RGP. Why?

>
> : I will not debate the Chip, Doyle and RazzO vs Russ G issue. However, if
> : Bill (or Russ after all this time) can offer any proof that the two have
> : cheated (besides just saying they are cheats) I will listen.
>
> Oh, please, Darryl. You are not even close to being qualified to discuss
> collusion and cheating at cards with Russ and me. Your challenge is
> nonsense.

And the challenge being what? I said if you can offer proof or know of the
tons of players and old dealers/managers who can attest to cheating simply
provide their contact names as a real person or have them post.


> By its very nature, collusion done right is undetectable and

> leaves no evidence or proof, especially in brick and mortar card rooms. How

> are you ever going to prove that two players are colluding and signalling?
> How are you ever going to prove that a marked deck was in use when the
> floorman, who is in on the scam, comes and changes out the marked cards for
> a legitimate deck?

So because no one can prove they were/are or never were/are not cheats
makes them cheats by default?

>
> The proof that Chip and Doyle are cheats comes from the cheaters grapevine.
> You do understand that card cheats and colluders have regular discussions
> about which card rooms are whose territory, and who are running what scams
> at which cardrooms?

I'm not sure how reliable the cheaters grapevine is. You recently made a
post stating I have met Russ G on numerous occasions. I have?

> This information is inherently reliable, since card cheats have no incentive
> to lie to each other about who is cheating and where. They need to have
> this information to know where they can play and where they cannot. Do you
> understand that if a rival cheating pack tried to move in on Chip and
> Doyle's lucrative scam at the Bellagio, that there would be open warfare
> between rival Poker Mafia gangs???
>
> Of course you understand none of this, since you are a clueless celebrity
> whore who loves to brag about all the poker celebrities with whom you are
> friends. I am sure you have considered it to be a real feather in your cap
> that you are my only friend in Las Vegas, who can talk to me on the
> telephone anytime he wants, and socialize with me anytime he wants.

Yea, I did appreciate the fact.

> Those days are OVER, Darryl. And I mean OVER. We made an agreement for
> exchange of services. I provided the services I agreed to provide. Now you
> have welched on your end of the deal, and told me you cannot take care of my
> cats, as you previously promised.

Well... recently you have changed. You're very scary and threatening. Not
just to me. I know you wouldn't have put me in the hospital if I would
have told you that I couldn't watch your cats originally to your face. I
emailed you and publicly said I would take care of your cats after you
emailed me and posted the emails that I would do it. Your posted emails
did ask me to reconsider, right? Then when you posted that I would not be
responsible for anything thing I said i would do it? It is obvious after
my email in which you waited 5 days to respond to that you never wanted me
to do it after that. You just wanted to post the emails so you could say
all this.

>
> Go back and stick your brown nose up Doyle's ass. I want nothing more to do
> with you.

I have not seen nor have I talked to Doyle since his book signing in March
2005. However, I will always feel good that I knew then man personally and
had associations with him as a friend and as a professional.


>
> Listen, Darryl. As far as I am concerned, Russ has more credibility than
> any other poster on RGP. Everything he has ever told me would happen has
> happened. Many of the things he has told me about cheating in big money
> games and big money tournaments have been verified by other knowledgeable
> poker insiders whose names I obviously cannot disclose, since Chip and
> Doyle's Poker Mafia would come down on them hard.

Well he isn't as credible as Oliver Tse, for one. The two other cheats
came forward with video that I can provide done on a first hand condition
that says what Russ G. knows about any high level cheating in Las Vegas
and his motivations for his claims. I can provide these videos.

> Do you really have any idea what a total fool you have made of yourself
> trying to discredit Russ, when you lack both the knowledge of poker in
> general, and knowledge of collusion and card cheating in particular, to even
> be qualified to have a discussion with Russ in these subject areas?

No, I don't think I have a made a fool out of myself. Besides the videos
of recants, Russ claimed that Gary "Gig" Young was barred all over
Downtown Vegas. Especially at the Lady Luck. As you may or may not know I
showed were Gary left the game at the Binion's and went over and played BJ
in the pit at the Lady Luck. A guy who just a few years earlier was
claimed by Russ to have been barred with Stu Ungar for cheating. He played
without incident and cash out out and walked out.
The only time Russ would have made a fool out of me was with his RazzO
Contests.

> If Russ tells me that he has heard from multiple sources on the cheaters
> grapevine that Chip and Doyle have been running a multi-million dollar scam
> operation at first the Mirage, now the Bellagio, then I believe Russ. He
> has credibility with me. You have none.

People believe what they want to believe. There is always a 50/50 chance
what they you hear is true.


RazzO
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"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Tinyurls
> are obsolete and unnecessary, as I have previously explained to Bill
> Bradley, and he stopped using them.

Actually, I hadn't completely stopped but I will now. I like my name.


RussGe...@aol.com

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Aug 27, 2006, 11:39:52 AM8/27/06
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RazzO wrote:
> This below is truly funny, Dan.
>
> I have e-mailed Bill and asked him if I can set up a meeting to agree to
> watch his cats and be shown what to do and stuff.
>
> I will not debate the Chip, Doyle and RazzO vs Russ G issue. However, if
> Bill (or Russ after all this time) can offer any proof that the two have
> cheated (besides just saying they are cheats) I will listen.

Bill Coleman isn't involved here, but Razzo, you made two recants of
the cheating. If you didn't care, why make them? Martion later recanted
his recant and Nirdlinger was found DEAD in a third world country. But
again Razzo, you don't care:).

Russ Georgiev

www.pokermafia.com

Chris in Texas

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Aug 27, 2006, 1:15:15 PM8/27/06
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On Aug 27 2006 2:38 AM, William Coleman wrote:

>
> Where did I badmouth my mother??? Telling the truth about my mother or
> anyone else is not badmouthing. It is telling the truth.

Well, badmouthing might not be the correct term, but the tone of your previous
post certainly indicated you were blaming her for things she did or did not do
during her time of grieving.

Good luck with all that.

 Chris

William Coleman

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"RazzO" <ra...@razzo.com> wrote in message
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: On Aug 26 2006 10:00 PM, William Coleman wrote:
:
: > Forget it, Darryl. You have shown yourself to be an irresponsible liar
who
: > does not keep his commitments. I am quite certain that you told me
several
: > months ago that if I gave you free help with your computer, you would
feed
: > and water my cats if I needed to make an out of town trip.
:
: Ah.. I thought there was a reason for all of this. This was your goal to
: eventually say this.

OK, Darryl. You could just admit you lied to me and failed to keep your
commitment to me. Now you are going to try to justify your mendacious
behavior with still more lies. Stop lying by claiming that I had some
master plan to discredit you. I had no such plan, and you know it. My only
goal in this matter for the last few months was to find someone whom I could
trust to take care of my cats if I ever had to make an out of town trip. I
thought I could trust you. I obviously cannot.

: I said I would think about it and it would be possible that I could do it
for you.

No, you did not. You are lying. Here is exactly what you said in your
first email to me --

"I appreciate the fact I am one of few you trust enough to watch your house
and care for your cats. However, I cannot do it. I'm sorry."

That is the entire contents of your first email to me. Please point out
where in that email you said you would think about it and it would be
possible that you could do it for me. You must be really desperate to
salvage the tatters of your besmirched reputation if you will blatantly lie
about what you said in an email to me on RGP.

Your email says simply and unequivocally that you cannot care for my cats,
as you previously promised you would. You offer absolutely no reason why
you cannot care for my cats. You just can't.

: The postings to this were designed so you could make the above comments
all along.

Huh??? What postings??? I never had any master plan to discredit you. I
thought I could trust you. I thought you were my friend. Then you just
tell me you cannot keep a previous commitment you made to me. No reason or
explanation given whatsoever. You have brought all this down on your head
by being such an irresponsible person that you refused to keep a commitment
you previously made to me, and by not offering any explanation whatsoever as
to why.


: Why did it take you 5 days to respond to my email informing you I couldn't

feed and water your cats?

Darryl, you have officially lost it. You are so desperate to convince
yourself and RGP that you really aren't a lying, irresponsible scumbag that
you are telling lies which I can easily prove are lies. The time stamp on
your first email to me is August 23, 4:20 pm. The time stamp on my RGP post
"first email from ramashiva to razzo" is August 26, 11:45 am. That is less
than three days, Darryl. Yet you claim I didn't respond for five days. Did
you fail integer arithmetic in the first grade, Darryl?

: Then you send me "the first ramashiva to razzo email" asking me to
reconsider.

You are lying again. I subsequently published my first email to you under
that title. In that first email, I told you that if I didn't get a
satisfactory response, I reserved the right to publish my first email to
you. Your second email was more of your mendacious bullshit, so I made the
decision to publish both emails, together with my responses. The fact that
I published my first email to you with the title "first email from ramashiva
to razzo", rather than just "email from ramashiva to razzo" is pretty good
proof that I made the decision to publish both emails AFTER I received your
response to my first email to you.

: > I gave you the free help, remember? I spent nine hours and spent the

entire
: > night working on your computer problems. Now you tell me that you
cannot
: > feed and water my cats???
:
: You ask here again if you gave me 'free' help on my PC. The answer is NO.

The answer is YES, Darryl. Stop lying. Please tell me how much money you
gave me or what you gave me of value to compensate me for nine hours of my
time. The answer is nothing, Darryl. Absolutely nothing. Our agreement
was that we would compensate each other at the rate of $20/hour for our
time. Or that we would keep track of hours owed and trade out our services
on an hour for hour basis. Or that we would trade computer hardware and/or
computer software at agreed upon rates. When I walked out of your house, I
carried absolutely nothing with me that was definitely known to be of value.


: It wasn't free. Did I or did I not let you walk out of my house with a


: fully functionally copy of a current version of a sealed installation disk
: of Windows XP PRO from MS

No I did not walk out of your house with any such thing. What I walked out
of your house with was a replacement XP Pro CD-ROM which Microsoft sent you
when you reported to Microsoft that you had lost your installation disk.
The sleeve of the CD-ROM is clearly marked "for use only by Darryl
Phillips". So you violated Microsoft's terms by giving me the disk for my
use. I told you precisely this at the time --

"We are both violating Microsoft's terms of use, but if I can use this
CD-ROM to create a functional licensed version of XP Pro on my next computer
build, then there is no problem. Otherwise, Darryl, you owe me either $180
or nine hours of your time."

That is precisely what I told you, and you know it. Darryl, I have two
brand new computers which I bought in January which are still in their
boxes. I have all of the spare parts to build two more computers when I get
around to it. As of right now, unless the restricted use CD-ROM which you
gave me will allow me to make a licensed build of XP Pro, you still owe me
$180 or nine hours of your time.

: and allowed you to pry off the Pentium II processor chip from an old PC?

No, you didn't. Are you going to lie in every sentence of this post???
First of all, it was not a Pentium II, it was an 866-mhz Pentium III which
had a corroded pile of thermal compound on it indicating almost certain heat
death. I told you that the behavior of the system at bootup was such that I
was 99% sure that the CPU was dead, but I could only be sure by trying to
boot with it in one of my Pentium III systems. I also told you that I was
very reluctant to do that, since I have previously destroyed two $600
motherboards removing and replacing heatsinks, which I would have to do to
test your POS Pentium III chip. I also told you that the logical
alternative was for you to buy a 933-mhz Pentium III CPU for $40, so we
could place it the dead computer and see if it would boot. I told you that
if it still didn't boot, the motherboard was probably fried, and I would buy
the Pentium III CPU from you for $40, since I have a Pentium III system with
dual 933-mhz processors, and it is always useful to have a backup CPU in
case one of them fails. In a subsequent telephone conversation, I told you
I decided I didn't want to risk fucking yet another $600 motherboard by
replacing and removing heatsinks, and that you should just buy a 933-mhz
Pentium III CPU for $40, which I would buy from you if the system still
wouldn't boot with a new CPU.

That is precisely what occurred, Darryl. For you to suggest that this
almost certainly dead 866-mhz CPU has any value whatsover is nonsense. You
are simply lying by claiming that you gave me this chip. At your request, I
took it with the intention to test it on another motherboard. You never
gave it to me. After I told you I didn't want to risk ruining another $600
motherboard by removing and replacing heatsinks, I told you by phone that
the chip was almost certainly worthless, but I would return it to you if you
wanted it. To this date, you have never requested that I return this
866-mhz chip. Please do not lie and claim you GAVE me this CPU. You did
not. I took it with the understanding that I would try to determine
conclusively if the chip were dead. I also told you that I would return it
to you if you wanted it. You clearly do not want it back, because you have
never asked for it.

: How is this working for FREE?

Because you gave me nothing which either of us know to be of any value. You
didn't GIVE the the 866-mhz CPU, you let me take it to test it. I
subsequently told you I would not risk ruining another $600 motherboard to
test an almost certainly dead CPU with a value of $20, at most.

The understanding on the XP Pro CD-ROM was that I was conditionally taking
it in payment for nine hours of my time, but only on the condition that I
could actually use it to make a licensed XP Pro build. Therefore, you gave
me nothing of known value. That is working for free, Darryl. Got that?

: > I have seen your true face, Darryl. Forget about being my friend or

getting
: > my help or advice on any matter whatsoever.
:
: I think it's a common fact, now, that you don't want to be my friend.

No, I most certainly do not, Darryl. You have now proven yourself to be a
mendacious scumbag who makes commitments, then doesn't keep them.

: It's the verbiage in the last two 'ramashiva to razzo' e-mails that pretty
: much already defines this.

Darryl, please take a course in remedial writing. The above sentence is
completely unintelligible.

: You wrote these two just emails just to publish to RGP. Why?

My God, Darryl. Every statement in you post so far is either a lie or
unintelligible. Thanks for confirming, as if any confirmation was
necessary, that you are a pathological liar. When I wrote my first email to
you, I had no intention of publishing it. Here is precisely what I said --

"Oh, by the way, I reserve the right to publish this email on RGP, and I
probably will if I do not get a satisfactory response from you. I put Russ
on the CC list just to let him know clearly and unambiguously exactly how I
stand vis a vis Razzo, Chip, and Doyle -- in other words, the cheating
overlords of the real poker mafia and their asskissing, brownnosing minion.
That would be you, Darryl. The asskissing, brownnosing minion."

I clearly had no INTENTION to publish this email when I wrote it. I assumed
I would get some response from you like --

"You're right, Bill. I promised I would take care of your cats, and I
will."

Instead, I get an email from you which starts with this obvious mendacity --

"I could care less about the Chip and Doyle and Russ stuff."

To which I replied --

"Bullshit. You are lying. If you don't care at all about Chip and Doyle
and
Russ, then why have you spent so much time and energy the last five years
attacking Russ and defending Doyle? If you expect to be my friend, you need
to be completely honest with me. That means telling the truth about Chip
and Doyle not just to me, but to all of RGP."

I do not consider an email which starts with a blatant lie to be
satisfactory response. At that point, I decided to publish both my first
and second emails to you.

: > : I will not debate the Chip, Doyle and RazzO vs Russ G issue. However,

if
: > : Bill (or Russ after all this time) can offer any proof that the two
have
: > : cheated (besides just saying they are cheats) I will listen.
: >
: > Oh, please, Darryl. You are not even close to being qualified to
discuss
: > collusion and cheating at cards with Russ and me. Your challenge is
: > nonsense.
:
: And the challenge being what?

Can you fucking read your own words, Darryl? Are you really as dumb as some
people say you are? I have previously defended you on RGP against charges
that you are one of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet. Now it appears
you are. Here is what you said which is an obvious challenge --

"However, if Bill (or Russ after all this time) can offer any proof that the
two have cheated (besides just saying they are cheats) I will listen."

Obvious challenge, Darryl. Your response is essentially -- What challenge?
I didn't make any challenge.

Is there no limit to your mendacity?

: I said if you can offer proof or know of the


: tons of players and old dealers/managers who can attest to cheating simply
: provide their contact names as a real person or have them post.

No, you didn't say that either, Darryl. Are you going to make one true
statement in your post? Please tell me how these two statements are in any
way equivalent --


"However, if Bill (or Russ after all this time) can offer any proof that the
two have cheated (besides just saying they are cheats) I will listen."

"I said if you can offer proof or know of the tons of players and old

dealers/managers who can attest to cheating simply provide their contact
names as a real person or have them post."

Your second statement is another request for evidence which you know is
impossible to produce. You know if any oldtime crossroaders came forward to
testify against Russ, Chip and Doyle would instantly put out a contract on
them, just as they put out a contract on Russ Georgiev.

Just consider the RECANT and the RECANT OF THE RECANT, featuring the oldtime
grifter and card mechanic who was one of the founding members of GCA. Not
Bill Nirdlinger, the other guy whose name escapes me at the moment. Oh, I
just remembered his name, I think. Wasn't it John Martino? I will proceed
on the assumption that was his name.

In the RECANT, John is visibly trembling and shaking, obviously scared to
death he will be killed if he doesn't say what he is supposed to say. Now,
Razzo, since you have broken your commitment to me, I am going to break my
confidentiality agreement with you. I have previously told this to NO ONE,
not even Russ.

While this poor card mechanic was saying what he had to say to save his
life, who did you tell me was in the next room listening, to make sure John
said everything which Doyle wanted said?

Doyle Brunson himself. You told me this, Darryl. Don't lie and claim you
didn't.

Doyle Brunson is a card cheat who threatens people with death who testify
that he is a card cheat. The evidence is simple and obvious.

If Doyle is really sweet and innocent and never cheated at cards in Las
Vegas, as he claims, why would he care what a known cheat and card mechanic
like John Martino said? Why would he need to be in the next room to make
sure John said everything Doyle told him to say?

You know all of this, too, Darryl, plus much more about Doyle I don't know.
But just this evidence is compelling proof that Doyle is a card cheat who
threatens people with death who try to expose him. This is why I have said
you KNOW Doyle is a cheat. Just the little evidence you have given me is
compelling, though not conclusive. With all you know about Doyle, I have no
doubt whatsoever that you know for a certainty that Doyle is a card cheat.

: > By its very nature, collusion done right is undetectable and


: > leaves no evidence or proof, especially in brick and mortar card rooms.
How
: > are you ever going to prove that two players are colluding and
signalling?
: > How are you ever going to prove that a marked deck was in use when the
: > floorman, who is in on the scam, comes and changes out the marked cards
for
: > a legitimate deck?
:
: So because no one can prove they were/are or never were/are not cheats
: makes them cheats by default?

No, Darryl. Now you have switched from lies to strawman arguments. The
above paragraph explains why it is essentially impossible to prove that Chip
and Doyle are cheating in a brick and mortar cardroom. Especially
experienced, sophisticated, well-connected cheats like Chip and Doyle.
There is no implication whatsoever that no evidence means they are cheats.

: > The proof that Chip and Doyle are cheats comes from the cheaters

grapevine.
: > You do understand that card cheats and colluders have regular
discussions
: > about which card rooms are whose territory, and who are running what
scams
: > at which cardrooms?
:
: I'm not sure how reliable the cheaters grapevine is.

The immediately following paragraph explains why the cheaters grapevine has
credibility.

: You recently made a post stating I have met Russ G on numerous occasions.

I did? Cite please. If I said that, I cannot prove it. But I know for
sure, you have met him at least once, because you were the cameraman for the
original cheating tapes. Did you have no meeting before the taping? Were
all the tapings done in one session, or did you adjourn between sessions?
Did you ever meet Russ in person again after the taping? Just how many
times have you met Russ? Why don't you tell us? I don't know. You do.
Why don't you for once stop your mendacious bullshit and tell RGP the truth?

: I have?

Stop being coy, Darryl. Just tell us how many times you have met Russ.

: > This information is inherently reliable, since card cheats have no

incentive
: > to lie to each other about who is cheating and where. They need to have
: > this information to know where they can play and where they cannot. Do
you
: > understand that if a rival cheating pack tried to move in on Chip and
: > Doyle's lucrative scam at the Bellagio, that there would be open warfare
: > between rival Poker Mafia gangs???
: >
: > Of course you understand none of this, since you are a clueless
celebrity
: > whore who loves to brag about all the poker celebrities with whom you
are
: > friends. I am sure you have considered it to be a real feather in your
cap
: > that you are my only friend in Las Vegas, who can talk to me on the
: > telephone anytime he wants, and socialize with me anytime he wants.
:
: Yea, I did appreciate the fact.

Finally you make a true statement.
:
: > Those days are OVER, Darryl. And I mean OVER. We made an agreement for


: > exchange of services. I provided the services I agreed to provide. Now
you
: > have welched on your end of the deal, and told me you cannot take care
of my
: > cats, as you previously promised.
:
: Well... recently you have changed.

No, I haven't. I never change. I am the same yesterday, today, and
tomorrow.

: You're very scary and threatening.

Yes I am Darryl. You now perceive me that way because you broke a
commitment you made to me, and you have brought down the wrath of Ramashiva
on your head. As I have previously explained to all of RGP, the most
foolish thing anyone can do is to take action which will arouse the wrath of
Ramashiva. Doug Dalton and Bobby Baldwin apparently discount the negative
EV of arousing the wrath of Ramashiva, since they have not publicly
responded to anything I have said about them, nor have they complied with my
request to have my playing privileges reinstated at the Mirage and Bellagio.

: Not just to me. I know you wouldn't have put me in the hospital if I would


: have told you that I couldn't watch your cats originally to your face.

You know no such thing, because I was in a very foul and nasty mood when I
got around to reading your email telling me you couldn't take care of my
cats. I have explained in detail why I was so pissed off in my post "second
email from ramashiva to razzo".

: I emailed you and publicly said I would take care of your cats after you


: emailed me and posted the emails that I would do it.

Stop trying to confuse the timeline, Darryl. You only emailed that you
would take care of my cats AFTER I published both my first and second emails
to you. Your chance to tell me that you would keep your commitment to care
for my cats was when you responded to my first email. You didn't do that,
as any reader of my second email to you knows.

: Your posted emails did ask me to reconsider, right?

My FIRST email to you did, yes. When you did not respond satisfactorily to
my first email to you, I knew you were a lost cause, as I indicated in my
second email to you.

: Then when you posted that I would not be


: responsible for anything thing I said i would do it? It is obvious after
: my email in which you waited 5 days

Why do you keep lying about the timeline? I already gave the timestamps
showing it was LESS than three days. Why are you lying about the timeline,
when all you have to do is look at the same timestamps I am looking at?

: to respond to that you never wanted me to do it after that.

No idea what you are trying to say here, Darryl. Again, take a course in
remedial writing.

: You just wanted to post the emails so you could say all this.

Stop lying, Darryl. My first email makes it quite obvious that I did NOT
want to publish any emails on RGP. I just wanted to get my cats taken care
of. I just wanted you to keep your previous commitment.

You think I like airing my dirty laundry on RGP? Of course I don't. I only
do so when given no alternative. You gave me none. Stop trying to claim
that my whole purpose in sending you the first email was to create a pretext
for attacking Chip and Doyle. That was the furtherest thing from my mind.
I only wanted to get my cats taken care of. Nothing else. I was not
thinking about Chip and Doyle at all.


: > Go back and stick your brown nose up Doyle's ass. I want nothing more

to do
: > with you.
:
: I have not seen nor have I talked to Doyle since his book signing in March
: 2005. However, I will always feel good that I knew then man personally and
: had associations with him as a friend and as a professional.

Please explain why you are proud of knowing and defending a man who you know
for sure is a card cheat who threatens people with death who try to expose
him.

: > Listen, Darryl. As far as I am concerned, Russ has more credibility

than
: > any other poster on RGP. Everything he has ever told me would happen
has
: > happened. Many of the things he has told me about cheating in big money
: > games and big money tournaments have been verified by other
knowledgeable
: > poker insiders whose names I obviously cannot disclose, since Chip and
: > Doyle's Poker Mafia would come down on them hard.
:
: Well he isn't as credible as Oliver Tse, for one.

I have no idea who Oliver is. Nor do I know anything about his credibility.

: The two other cheats


: came forward with video that I can provide done on a first hand condition
: that says what Russ G. knows about any high level cheating in Las Vegas
: and his motivations for his claims. I can provide these videos.

Darryl, I am not interested in your various convoluted attempts to discredit
Russ. Just point me to anything Russ has ever posted on RGP which you can
prove is a lie. Otherwise, sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. You
have told so many lies in this one post that you have zero credibility.
None. Got that?

: > Do you really have any idea what a total fool you have made of yourself


: > trying to discredit Russ, when you lack both the knowledge of poker in
: > general, and knowledge of collusion and card cheating in particular, to
even
: > be qualified to have a discussion with Russ in these subject areas?
:
: No, I don't think I have a made a fool out of myself.

Well, sir. You most certainly have. The fact that you won't admit this is
further testimony that you are either incredibly stupid, a pathological
liar, or both.

: Besides the videos


: of recants, Russ claimed that Gary "Gig" Young was barred all over
: Downtown Vegas. Especially at the Lady Luck. As you may or may not know I
: showed were Gary left the game at the Binion's and went over and played BJ
: in the pit at the Lady Luck. A guy who just a few years earlier was
: claimed by Russ to have been barred with Stu Ungar for cheating. He played
: without incident and cash out out and walked out.

Darryl, the issue here is Russ's statements about Chip and Doyle. Stop
introducing irrelevant red herrings. Also, what you say means nothing. I
have been barred at many casinos as a blackjack player, then walked in a few
years, or even a few months later and played without incident. The fact
that Gig walked into the Lady Luck a few years after being barred and played
blackjack is no proof whatsoever that he hadn't previously been barred. You
think I just got off the turnip truck? I have been involved in the Las
Vegas gambling scene for over 30 years -- the last 22 years as a resident.

Is this the strongest proof you have got that Russ has lied on RGP? If so,
you have nothing.

: The only time Russ would have made a fool out of me was with his RazzO
: Contests.

No, Darryl. Russ makes a fool of you everytime he replies to you. You are
the laughingstock of RGP. You are just too stupid to realize it.

: > If Russ tells me that he has heard from multiple sources on the cheaters


: > grapevine that Chip and Doyle have been running a multi-million dollar
scam
: > operation at first the Mirage, now the Bellagio, then I believe Russ.
He
: > has credibility with me. You have none.
:
: People believe what they want to believe.

No, not at all. I have both told you face to face and posted on RGP that
Doyle had been my hero for many years, and that Russ would have to give me
more than allegations before I believed Doyle was a cheat. I most certainly
did not want to believe Doyle was a cheat. Ironically, you gave me the
evidence I needed when you told me that Doyle was in the next room,
listening to John Martino tape the original recant. Simple logic then told
me that Doyle was, in fact, a cheat.

By the way, did you promise Doyle that you would never tell anyone that he
was in the next room during the taping of the original cheating tapes? If
so, I am sure Doyle will be pleased to learn that you told Ramashiva, a
known ally of Russ, what you had promised to keep secret.

Russ has total credibility with me precisely because everything he tells me
will happen always happens. And because I have challenged both Lee Munzer
and you to point to anything Russ has ever posted to RGP which you can prove
is a lie. Lee could give me nothing. You apparently can give me nothing
either. Show me anything Russ has ever posted which is a lie, then I will
start to doubt his credibility.

: There is always a 50/50 chance what they you hear is true.

Another unintelligible sentence. Remedial writing class, Darryl.

Apparently this is a mangled version of "In the beginning, everything was
even money". That itself is a mangled quote from Mike Caro, I believe.

I can't believe Chip and Doyle haven't yanked your chain and told you to
STFD and STFU. Every time you reply to me or send me an email, you further
damage your credibility and give me further openings to unload on Chip and
Doyle.

Bill Vanek

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 06:05:55 -0700, "RazzO" <ra...@razzo.com> wrote:

> and allowed you to pry off the Pentium II
>processor chip from an old PC?

Now that is true generosity.

>No, I don't think I have a made a fool out of myself. Besides the videos
>of recants, Russ claimed that Gary "Gig" Young was barred all over
>Downtown Vegas. Especially at the Lady Luck. As you may or may not know I
>showed were Gary left the game at the Binion's and went over and played BJ
>in the pit at the Lady Luck. A guy who just a few years earlier was
>claimed by Russ to have been barred with Stu Ungar for cheating. He played
>without incident and cash out out and walked out.

As I've said before, I was once barred from the Gold Coast, got up
from the table, and walked over to the pit on the other side of the
building. I played for about another hour without incident, cashed out
and walked out. I was barred from some other casinos also, and
returned to all of them. Some remembered me, most didn't.

Do you really think that every individual floorman in every casino
will recognize every player who was ever barred? Young risked a
misdemeanor trespassing charge by walking in there. That's about as
big a deal as not feeding the parking meter outside the place.

RazzO

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Hey, Bill, I never told you Doyle was behind some door that day. Not only
didn't I tell you that I wouldn't know if it was true he was. The only
people involved in the recant that day was Caro, Martino, and myself.

Also, just so you'll know. I have never met Russ G.

Anyway, sorry that my attempt to agree to watch the cats after I did say i
couldn't wasn't convenient.

RazzO
http://www.razzo.com
email:ticorazz (at) yahoo.com

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"RazzO" <ra...@razzo.com> wrote in message
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: Hey, Bill, I never told you Doyle was behind some door that day.

You are an absolute liar covering your ass. You told me exactly that, and
you know it. I am talking about the original RECANT. Were you or were you
not the cameraman??? If my memory is correct, you told me this the day I
came over and visited you at Tom McEvoy's house.


: Not only didn't I tell you that I wouldn't know if it was true he was. The

only
: people involved in the recant that day was Caro, Martino, and myself.

You are fucking lying. You told me precisely that Doyle was in the next
room listening to make sure Martino said everything he was supposed to say,
and that he didn't say anything he wasn't supposed to say.

Chip and Doyle must have really put the fear of God into you and told you to
deny ever having said that Doyle was in the next room listening.

This coverup isn't going to work, Darryl. Your best bet is to come clean
now, admit you are lying about this, and confirm, just as you told me, that
Doyle was in the next room listening.

If you continue to lie about this, Darryl, here is my advice to you --

Quit your job.

Pack your bags.

Leave the state.

Change your name.

Listen, asshole, I am in the process of bringing down Chip and Doyle. The
fact that Doyle was in the next room listening during the taping of the
original RECANT is a key piece of damning evidence, strongly suggesting that
Doyle is in fact a cheat, and he wanted Martino's damning testimony to go
away.

I am going to bring down Chip and Doyle anyway. You can't stop me. After I
am finished with Chip and Doyle, if you have not admitted to me and RGP that
you are lying about whether Doyle was in the next room, you will then be
number one on my list of people who must be destroyed. You do not want to
be number one on that list, Darryl. You do not want to be on that list at
all.

Now are you going to stop this bullshit and tell the truth, or do you want
to face the Wrath of Ramashiva?


: Also, just so you'll know. I have never met Russ G.

Were you or were you not the cameraman who filmed the original cheating
tapes, featuring Russ Georgiev, John Martino, and Bill Nirdlinger? I must
admit that I am not positive you were the cameraman for these tapes. So,
answer me yes or no. Were you the cameraman for the original cheating
tapes? If you lie about this, obviously Russ knows who the cameraman was,
as does Mike Caro.

: Anyway, sorry that my attempt to agree to watch the cats after I did say i

couldn't wasn't convenient.

The ship had already sailed by then, numbnuts. In my first email to you, I
insisted strongly that you live up to your commitment and take care of my
cats. In your reply, you STILL did not agree to do so. Not only that, but
you lied in your response.

My second email to you was a response to this lying response. Only after I
published my second email to you unloading on Chip and Doyle did you
belatedly offer to come over to my house and see what would be necessary to
care for my cats. I guess you must have gotten a headsup from Doyle telling
you to go take care of my fucking cats already.

It is funny to watch you and Doyle in action. I have you two clowns
cornered like rats, and you think you can lie your way out of your
predicament. Lying won't work, Darryl. Every lie you tell just puts you in
a deeper hole. The only way out of your predicament is to tell the truth
and stop covering up for Chip and Doyle. Trust me, you are much better off
helping me expose Chip and Doyle for what they are than trying to protect
them by lying.

You are a piece of work, Darryl. You are a completely dishonest, lying
asshole. I cannot believe I ever trusted you. I am glad I found out what a
liar you are before I trusted you about something important.

Camillo

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Your poweful trash talking and thoughts of you in that London Fog coat
have turned me on so much I've been masterbating for days. I willl come
out to Las Vegas and care for your cats if you will let me suck your
humungous cock, and then fuck me hard up the ass.

On Aug 26 2006 8:42 PM, William Coleman wrote:

> "Camillo" <thum...@se.rr.com> wrote in message
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> :I think I'm in love with you William
>
> I certainly hope you are a woman, and a young good looking one at that. I
> certainly hope you are not an assfucking, cocksucking, limp-wristed,
> HIV-infected faggot.
>
> And I also hope you are not some frightfully ugly harridan like Linda
> Sherman or Patti Beadles, or whatever the fuck her name is.


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Aug 29, 2006, 3:49:20 PM8/29/06
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"Camillo" <a13...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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: Your poweful trash talking and thoughts of you in that London Fog coat

: have turned me on so much I've been masterbating for days. I willl come
: out to Las Vegas and care for your cats if you will let me suck your
: humungous cock, and then fuck me hard up the ass.

You still haven't told me if you are a man or a woman. I am definitely not
interested if you are a man. If you are a woman, I am only interested if
you are young and good looking.

John Q. Doe

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Aug 29, 2006, 5:48:31 PM8/29/06
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If I am ever as nuts as Willie Coleman, I hope my family has me put to sleep.

William Coleman

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"John Q. Doe" <4308...@recpoker.com> wrote in message
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: If I am ever as nuts as Willie Coleman, I hope my family has me put to
sleep.

I am nuts because I do not want an assfucking, cocksucking, limp-wristed,
HIV-infected faggot to suck my cock? I am nuts because I do not want to
fuck another man in the ass? I am nuts because I am only interested in
fucking young, good-looking women?

You have a very strange idea of what constitutes being nuts.

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