OT : Shotgun for Christmas
mo_charles
lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
mo_charles
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BTSinAustin
> my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
> mo_charles
I have been thinking an 870 is in order. What did you get?
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mo_charles
> > lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
lefty rem 870 exp. it's my first gun. i'd prefer a handgun, but ignorant
chicago commies prevent ownership for all but favored aldermen
(http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/06/mell-pushes-gun.html).
i wonder why some of these crooks don't want us to own guns?
mo_charles
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Gary Carson
> my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
If you actually think liberals aren't armed you really should get out of
the city every now and then (even Rosie has a handgun).
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Kingo Gondo
"BTSinAustin" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Dec 28 2009 11:18 AM, mo_charles wrote:
>
>> my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
>> lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
>> pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>>
>> mo_charles
>
>
> I have been thinking an 870 is in order. What did you get?
Are you talking about for self-defense?
The plus is that the 870 is the most common, and thus the most customizable,
with all kinds of aftermarket accessories. The Mossberg 500 series is not
that far behind, however.
The bad thing is that Remington has gone cheap on the 870, with plastic
where it does not belong and poor QC. You can undo most of the penny saving
that Remington has done, but it will wind up costing you quite a bit more.
You can pick up a used 870 that is still solid as a tank. Or you can do what
I did and buy this:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/173/products_id/60309
This Browning is solid as a motherfucking rock. As a bottom ejector, it is
also ambidextrous, so if you have people in your household who are
left-handed, no problem.
But for serious social work I also have this:
http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/model.asp?fid=FNF005&gid=FNG002&mid=FNM0018
Good God, what a monster! You can throw so much lead down range so quickly
it is scary. Since I am in prime hurricane country (SE FL), this would be my
long gun of first resort to carry after The Big One.
mo_charles
> > lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
> If you actually think liberals aren't armed you really should get out of
> the city every now and then (even Rosie has a handgun).
you're conceding that liberals are pussies?
mo_charles
BTSinAustin
> > > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> > > lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> > > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
> >
> > I have been thinking an 870 is in order. What did you get?
>
> lefty rem 870 exp. it's my first gun. i'd prefer a handgun, but ignorant
> chicago commies prevent ownership for all but favored aldermen
> (http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/06/mell-pushes-gun.html).
> i wonder why some of these crooks don't want us to own guns?
>
> mo_charles
Great choice. The 870 can be customized so many ways. Combat mag,
barrels, stocks etc. And still relatively cheap to buy and shoot.
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Gary Carson
> > > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> > > lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> > > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
> >
> > If you actually think liberals aren't armed you really should get out of
> > the city every now and then (even Rosie has a handgun).
>
> you're conceding that liberals are pussies?
>
Is there something wrong with that?
mo_charles
>
> Is there something wrong with that?
here are a few democrats that aren't pussies:
http://gothamist.com/2009/12/27/video_bloody_fight_on_the_6_train.php
if one had a gun, the world could've been a better place for the rest of
us.
mo_charles
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chandler
> > > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> > > lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> > > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
> >
> > I have been thinking an 870 is in order. What did you get?
>
> lefty rem 870 exp. it's my first gun. i'd prefer a handgun, but ignorant
> chicago commies prevent ownership for all but favored aldermen
> (http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/06/mell-pushes-gun.html).
> i wonder why some of these crooks don't want us to own guns?
>
> mo_charles
Lots of what you would call liberals love guns. She did well. The 870 is
a classic. I believe even long guns need to be registered in the city
now. Make sure you dot your Is and cross your Ts when fullfilling that
requirement.
Chandler
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mo_charles
> > chicago commies prevent ownership for all but favored aldermen
> >
(http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/06/mell-pushes-gun.html).
> > i wonder why some of these crooks don't want us to own guns?
>
> a classic. I believe even long guns need to be registered in the city
> now. Make sure you dot your Is and cross your Ts when fullfilling that
> requirement.
true liberals are comrades, chandler. i have a mint foid. the picture i
mailed got exchanged for one of record (my license). my head's shaved,
the pic on the id has piles of hair, the hair descriptor is bald. gotta
love the idiots in government.
mo_charles
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Arlo-Payne
> my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
> mo_charles
Take it from me sleep with one eye open.
I still have spots on my back from Jody and the guns :(
chandler
You'll shoot your eye out kid... The foid is an easy hoop to jump
through. I know some people who have had some problems with registering
in Chicago. Forgotten what their exact issue was. Yet another revenue
stream for Daley.
Chandler
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> my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the
> good
> lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you
> liberal
> pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
>
morality and politics is rare.
pltrgyst
>Great choice. The 870 can be customized so many ways. Combat mag,
>barrels, stocks etc. And still relatively cheap to buy and shoot.
Since the 870 has come up: Anyone have any idea what a 1984 Model 870 "Special
Field" in 12 gauge (checkered, straight English-style stocks [no pistol grip],
21-inch ventilated rib barrels in --I think -- full choke, never fired) might be
worth?
-- Larry
raven1
<harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > you're conceding that liberals are pussies?
>>
>> Is there something wrong with that?
>
>here are a few democrats that aren't pussies:
>http://gothamist.com/2009/12/27/video_bloody_fight_on_the_6_train.php
>
>if one had a gun, the world could've been a better place for the rest of
>us.
The NYC newspapers are reserving judgment over whether the whole
incident was staged. Stay tuned.
Paul Popinjay
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> for all you liberal
> pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
To be fair, Mo, the liberals are not trying to disarm anyone. They merely
want safety regulations to be enforced, and guns kept out of the hands of
criminals. The problem is that too many states have lenient gun laws which
makes regulation difficult. What we need is a national gun law to prevent
this. And, Mo, if just one child can be saved, isn't it worth it?
BTSinAustin
No, we want to maintain the 2nd amendment. We have plenty of gun laws.
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Dude777
> To be fair, Mo, the liberals are not trying to disarm anyone. They merely
> want safety regulations to be enforced, and guns kept out of the hands of
> criminals.
Bull shit. Then why are there *BANS* in place? They wouldn't care if you
had a Fort Knox style gun safe in your home. They want the citizenry
unharmed.
> The problem is that too many states have lenient gun laws which
> makes regulation difficult.
No, idiots and criminals are the problem.
> What we need is a national gun law to prevent
> this.
Second amendment be damed.
> And, Mo, if just one child can be saved, isn't it worth it?
Well hell, let's just ban bicycles and trampolines.
ChrisRobin
> You'll shoot your eye out kid... The foid is an easy hoop to jump
> through. I know some people who have had some problems with registering
> in Chicago. Forgotten what their exact issue was. Yet another revenue
> stream for Daley.
I registered with no problem. Just make sure to re-register on time every
year, or they'll likely try to fuck you.
One thing to be wary of � on the registration form, they ask for a
purchase date. However if you've already purchased without first
registering, you've technically already broken the law. I skirted this by
noting "deposit given xx/xx/xx," which apparently worked. No doubt they
work this little loophole into the process so they can deny registrations
whenever they please.
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Paul Popinjay
>
> No, we want to maintain the 2nd amendment. We have plenty of gun laws.
>
If they had wanted people to own guns then the founders would have said so
before they added the amendments. The second amendment talks about
regulating militias and there is no automatic right for people to own guns
privately. It's the loop holes that is allowing all these violent criminals
to get guns. We need to close the loopholes and adopt a national and more
consistent gun policy in this country, setting much longer waiting periods
and requiring safety courses before people can be licensed to purchase a
firearm. How many children have to die before we can adopt these reasonable
measurements?
Paul Popinjay
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> Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
>> To be fair, Mo, the liberals are not trying to disarm anyone. They
>> merely want safety regulations to be enforced, and guns kept out of the
>> hands of criminals.
>
> Bull shit. Then why are there *BANS* in place? They wouldn't care if you
> had a Fort Knox style gun safe in your home. They want the citizenry
> unharmed.
>
Why does the citizenry need to be armed in this day and age when people have
cell phones and you can easily call the police if you need help? If there
were much longer waiting periods then maybe less people would want to go
through the trouble of buying guns and then there would be less for the
crimnals to steal and we would all be safer anyway.
>> The problem is that too many states have lenient gun laws which makes
>> regulation difficult.
>
> No, idiots and criminals are the problem.
>
No, what the problem is is that ammunition is too available. If there were
more restrictions on ammunition, we would not have so much violence in
society.
>> What we need is a national gun law to prevent this.
>
> Second amendment be damed.
>
Oh puhleeeese! There is nothing in the second amendment that guarantees
regular people should be allowed to own guns. That was in a time when there
was militias and all they had was muscats.
Adam
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> "Dude777" <dude...@dude.mail.com> wrote in message
> Oh puhleeeese! There is nothing in the second amendment that guarantees
> regular people should be allowed to own guns. That was in a time when there
> was militias and all they had was muscats.
They only had grapes? Hard to defend something with a grape.
bub
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>If they had wanted people to own guns then the founders would have said so
>before they added the amendments. The second amendment talks about
>regulating militias and there is no automatic right for people to own guns
>privately. It's the loop holes that is allowing all these violent criminals
>to get guns. We need to close the loopholes and adopt a national and more
>consistent gun policy in this country, setting much longer waiting periods
>and requiring safety courses before people can be licensed to purchase a
>firearm. How many children have to die before we can adopt these reasonable
>measurements?
>
>
1. trolling
Being a prick on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing
one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander,
because it's the internet and, hey, you can.
2. trolling
Trolling is the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the
internet, generally on message boards. When done in a moderated
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people such as fundies, this can result in hilarity.
bub
bub
<harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>true liberals are comrades, chandler. i have a mint foid. the picture i
>mailed got exchanged for one of record (my license). my head's shaved,
>the pic on the id has piles of hair, the hair descriptor is bald. gotta
>love the idiots in government.
>
>mo_charles
don't have to register rifles here. a handgun permit costs $5. go to
the sheriff's office fill out a form, give them the 5 bucks, you got
your permit in the mail in 2 days.
Paul Popinjay
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>
> 1. trolling
> Being a prick on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing
> one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander,
> because it's the internet and, hey, you can.
>
> 2. trolling
> Trolling is the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the
> internet, generally on message boards. When done in a moderated
> internet community, this can result in banning. When done to uptight
> people such as fundies, this can result in hilarity.
>
>
What's this shit? What are you getting on me about? Mo is the one who
started this thread. Get on his ass if you're going to get on anyone.
Besides, Mo is the one with the gun. And seriously, do we really need
people like Mo going around owning guns? Does the 2nd Amendment really
apply to people like Mo? Think about it.
Paul Popinjay
>
> don't have to register rifles here. a handgun permit costs $5. go to
> the sheriff's office fill out a form, give them the 5 bucks, you got
> your permit in the mail in 2 days.
Where the fuck do YOU live at? Dodge City?
Will in New Haven
wrote:
The Ninth Amendment, which says that the people have all the
unenumerated rights that do not appear in the Bill of Rights clearly
means that the citizens of Connecticut, at least, have an _individual_
right to keep and bear arms without reference to any militia. We had
that right when the Constitution was ratified and the Ninth Amendment
says that we still have it.
--
Will in New Haven
croupe
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> "mo_charles" <harrybal...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I still want a tank.
Croupe
Travel A
"bub" <b...@plottus.com> wrote in message
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don't have to register rifles here. a handgun permit costs $5. go to the
sheriff's office fill out a form, give them the 5 bucks, you got your
permit in the mail in 2 days.
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The Jayster wrote:
Where the fuck do YOU live at? Dodge City?
I wrote:
Pud won't say where he's from.
I asked Chingachgook if he knew any really dumb indians named Pud who
had internet access, and Chingachgook said: "ugh! he live by great river
where eagle come early. They call him Magua Two Smells of the Huron
nation."
So, hard to say from that. Sounds like he's from Canada somewhere.
Dude777
> Why does the citizenry need to be armed in this day and age when people have
> cell phones and you can easily call the police if you need help?
Middle of the night intruders. You want to risk your family's
life/safety on a cell phone and impossibly prompt police response?
chandler
> On Dec 28 2009 1:59 PM, chandler wrote:
>
> > You'll shoot your eye out kid... The foid is an easy hoop to jump
> > through. I know some people who have had some problems with registering
> > in Chicago. Forgotten what their exact issue was. Yet another revenue
> > stream for Daley.
>
> I registered with no problem. Just make sure to re-register on time every
> year, or they'll likely try to fuck you.
>
> One thing to be wary of � on the registration form, they ask for a
> purchase date. However if you've already purchased without first
> registering, you've technically already broken the law. I skirted this by
> noting "deposit given xx/xx/xx," which apparently worked. No doubt they
> work this little loophole into the process so they can deny registrations
> whenever they please.
I think they do work it to deny registrations. This may have been their
problem as it was some sort of collectible and they couldn't get the
numbers off of it until it arrived. I think you can purchase, and just
not bring it in to the city, or say you haven't, until it's registered.
Chandler
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chandler
>
> What's this shit? What are you getting on me about? Mo is the one who
> started this thread. Get on his ass if you're going to get on anyone.
> Besides, Mo is the one with the gun. And seriously, do we really need
> people like Mo going around owning guns? Does the 2nd Amendment really
> apply to people like Mo? Think about it.
I'm sure Mo is all about responsible gun ownership... What could go wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDlNIPCirLk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUhUAa3y4rE
Chandler
mo_charles
> >http://gothamist.com/2009/12/27/video_bloody_fight_on_the_6_train.php
> >
> >if one had a gun, the world could've been a better place for the rest of
> >us.
>
> The NYC newspapers are reserving judgment over whether the whole
> incident was staged. Stay tuned.
has al sharpton seen this nefarious video? i'll bet it was shot by a
white guy ... the angles, the selective editing, the disparaging
commentary on black americans. clearly the work of a racist.
mo_charles
Alim Nassor
> > > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> > > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
>
> lefty rem 870 exp. it's my first gun. i'd prefer a handgun, but ignorant
> chicago commies prevent ownership for all but favored aldermen
> i wonder why some of these crooks don't want us to own guns?
>
>
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Every Christmas since my boys were 12 there has been at least one gun
under the tree for one or both of them. Since they are grown now, we
usually all end up swapping ammo back and forth LOL. This year Igot a
case of 5.56 mm and 2 boxes of .40 SW. I got my oldest son some .45
ACP some .357 Sig and some 5.56. My youngest son got 5000 rounds of .
22
Alim Nassor
wrote:
> On Dec 28 2009 10:18 AM, mo_charles wrote:
>
> > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> > lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
> the city every now and then (even Rosie has a handgun).
>
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Yeah, but Rosie thinks only she should be armed and not the common
people.
Alim Nassor
wrote:
ARGH!!!< what has happened to the Popinjay we all know and love?
Trolling trolling trolling
keep those lefties trolling
keep those lefties rolling
BTSinAustin
Yawn. Thank you for playing.
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Mrs Iris Mike
> my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
>
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I think this is wonderful news 'Mo.
Now by gilfriend do you mean beard? or sister?
I can think of no one who should own a gun more than I think you
should own one.
First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
civilized countries.
Congrats on your new toy. Realize that you are twice as likely to be
shot by your own gun than being shot by another.
Hope your 'girlfriend' knows that if you feel homicidal for a short
period of time, you'll be able to "get 'er done". That murder rate
mentioned above includes tha fact the vast majority of murders are
committed by people close to the victim.
As you shine and polish that bad boy, keep in mind that the USA has a
suicide rate equal to India where the majority live in abject poverty.
Just for kicks, put the barrel in your mouth and know that if a gun is
in the house that the chance of suicide increases by something of the
magnitude of four times. Something to keep in mind when you lose big
at the casino.
Remember, if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. And
where do you think these outlaws will be getting their guns? Number
one prize for burglers is finding a gun, Be sure to tell your
neighbors, they'll be feeling so much safer.
You ever ride through the slums of St Louis? Ever wonder what makes
it such a slum? Gun ownership!!! That's right, it ain't no slum until
everybody has a gun, from Alzhiemer old ladies to lawabiding twelve
year olds. And you have just made your community just that more
American.
No country would ever invade America because of the high rate of gun
ownership. Works in Iraq and Afghanistan, its gotta work here.
One last bit of trivia; the suicide rate doesn't peak during the Xmas
holidays (urban legend), the highest incident rates occur during the
early days of spring. Only 94 shopping days!
Have fun and let us know how things go.
Abbey Johnsson
uhhhhh....he's not a redneck?
RichD
> The problem is that too many states have lenient gun laws which
> makes regulation difficult. What we need is a national gun law to prevent
> this.
We need a WORLD law. We can't depend on a hodgepodge
of inconsistent national laws.
> And, Mo, if just one child can be saved, isn't it worth it?
Indeed.
And, given that more american children die in
swimming pool accidents than from gun cleanings,
we need to ban swimming pools, as honest
compassionate liberals have been pushing for years.
--
Rich
croupe
Drive by splashings?
Croupe
ContactGSW
ue americans are armed.ink of no one who should own a gun more than I
think you
> should own one.
>
> First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
> industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
> civilized countries.
>
> Congrats on your new toy. Realize that you are twice as likely to be
> shot by your own gun than being shot by another.
I for one would be out of a job if it were not for America's tradition,
that goes back to the very origins of our country, of the proliferation of
firearm weapons. It is in our DNA Bea, you are living in a fantasy land
if you sit there and think guns will never be an inherent part of our
culture, right or wrong, has been always will be. So keep smacking your
head against that brick wall, its good to see. No part of our country,
from the Revolution to the old west, to East LA has not been influenced
by guns. My brother the trauma surgeon depends on guns. I myself can
count very few things in life that I am good at, much less have an
expertise that less than 500 people have in the country, and that is an
ability to understand, evaluate and interpret the morphological
characteristics of gunshot wounds. God bless America. Oh, my concealed
carry is with me as we speak, thank god this isn't Chicago. In the
immortal words of my concealed carry instructor "we are the good guys,
carry it, and carry it with one jacked in the chamber, otherwise it is
just dead weight"
ContactGSW
Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
like fish.
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Adam
Dont get me wrong, I'm mostly pro gun rights (as we have none here)
but carrying must be an awesome responsability, power of life and
death over all you meet really.
What sort of situation would it take to make you take it out in
puplic? I will read in that taking it out is the same as using it as
the former is futile and dangerous if you are not prepared to do the
latter.
Australia - Gun Free for 13 years 9 months with no appreciable
reduction in gun crime or deaths....
ContactGSW
> Dont get me wrong, I'm mostly pro gun rights (as we have none here)
> but carrying must be an awesome responsability, power of life and
> death over all you meet really.
> What sort of situation would it take to make you take it out in
> puplic? I will read in that taking it out is the same as using it as
> the former is futile and dangerous if you are not prepared to do the
> latter.
>
> Australia - Gun Free for 13 years 9 months with no appreciable
> reduction in gun crime or deaths....
Not really, at the concealed carry course they teach you the law, you
follow it. Carry a little KelTec 380 in a wallet holster in your back
pocket, practice drawing it until you are comfortable, put 100 or so
rounds through it to get to know it, and thats it. Less chance that you
will have to use it than your airbag in the car, but its there.
ContactGSW
Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
like fish.
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ContactGSW
> On Dec 29 2009 8:21 PM, Adam wrote:
>
> > On Dec 30, 11:48�ｿｽam, "ContactGSW" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > > On Dec 29 2009 3:50 PM, Mrs Iris Mike wrote:
> > > ue americans are armed.ink of no one who should own a gun more than I
> > > think you
> > >
> > > > should own one.
> > >
> > > > First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
> > > > industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
> > > > civilized countries.
> > >
> > > > �ｿｽCongrats on your new toy. Realize that you are twice as likely to be
> > > > shot by your own gun than being shot by another.
> > >
> > > I for one would be out of a job if it were not for America's tradition,
> > > that goes back to the very origins of our country, of the proliferation
of
> > > firearm weapons. �ｿｽIt is in our DNA Bea, you are living in a fantasy land
> > > if you sit there and think guns will never be an inherent part of our
> > > culture, right or wrong, has been always will be. �ｿｽSo keep smacking your
> > > head against that brick wall, its good to see. No part of our country,
> > > from the Revolution to the old west, to East LA has �ｿｽnot been influenced
> > > by guns. �ｿｽ My brother the trauma surgeon depends on guns. �ｿｽI myself can
> > > count very few things in life that I am good at, much less have an
> > > expertise that less than 500 people have in the country, and that is an
> > > ability to understand, evaluate and interpret the morphological
> > > characteristics of gunshot wounds. �ｿｽGod bless America. �ｿｽOh, my concealed
> > > carry is with me as we speak, thank god this isn't Chicago. �ｿｽIn the
> > > immortal words of my concealed carry instructor "we are the good guys,
> > > carry it, and carry it with one jacked in the chamber, otherwise it is
> > > just dead weight"
> > >
> > > ContactGSW
> > >
> > > Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
> > > like fish.
> > >
> > Dont get me wrong, I'm mostly pro gun rights (as we have none here)
> > but carrying must be an awesome responsability, power of life and
> > death over all you meet really.
> > What sort of situation would it take to make you take it out in
> > puplic? I will read in that taking it out is the same as using it as
> > the former is futile and dangerous if you are not prepared to do the
> > latter.
> >
> > Australia - Gun Free for 13 years 9 months with no appreciable
> > reduction in gun crime or deaths....
>
> Not really, at the concealed carry course they teach you the law, you
> follow it. Carry a little KelTec 380 in a wallet holster in your back
> pocket, practice drawing it until you are comfortable, put 100 or so
> rounds through it to get to know it, and thats it. Less chance that you
> will have to use it than your airbag in the car, but its there.
>
>
> ContactGSW
>
>
> Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
> like fish.
The law is pretty clear cut, you can't show the gun or announce its
presence as an intimidating factor. It must be concealed at all times,
unless in use due to direct fear of someones life. You can't walk toward
a threat thinking it will be an equalizer. You must use it only when
there is a clear cut threat to someones life and you cannot extricate that
threat by backing away. If you ever do, tell the cops two things: I was
in fear of my life, I want to talk to my lawyer (thats not a law, just
what we were taught). In other states its not just your safety that can
be in danger, but your property too, I think Alaska is like that not sure.
Here in Arkansas you can't pull it to stop someone from taking your shit,
but if you do you probably won't get in too much trouble.
ContactGSW
Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
like fish.
--------�ｿｽ
risky biz
> > > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> > > lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> > > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
> >
> > I have been thinking an 870 is in order. What did you get?
>
> lefty rem 870 exp. it's my first gun. i'd prefer a handgun, but ignorant
> chicago commies prevent ownership for all but favored aldermen
> (http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/06/mell-pushes-gun.html).
> i wonder why some of these crooks don't want us to own guns?
>
> mo_charles
"Liberal pussies", mo? It's your first gun at what- age 40+? What a
freakin' a-hole. I learned how to handle and shoot a Smith & Wesson .38
when I was five years old. Let's just categorize you among the
multitudiness faux, he-men Republicans and leave it at that.
________________________________________________________________________�
risky biz
> On Dec 29, 12:43�ｿｽam, "mo_charles" <harrybal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the
good
> > > > lord commanded: �ｿｽshe bought me a shotgun for xmas. �ｿｽfor all you liberal
> > > > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
> >
> > > I have been thinking an 870 is in order. �ｿｽWhat did you get?
> >
> > lefty rem 870 exp. �ｿｽit's my first gun. �ｿｽi'd prefer a handgun, but ignorant
> > chicago commies prevent ownership for all but favored aldermen
> > (http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/06/mell-pushes-gun....).
> > �ｿｽi wonder why some of these crooks don't want us to own guns?
> >
> > mo_charles
> >
> Every Christmas since my boys were 12 there has been at least one gun
> under the tree for one or both of them. Since they are grown now, we
> usually all end up swapping ammo back and forth LOL. This year Igot a
> case of 5.56 mm and 2 boxes of .40 SW. I got my oldest son some .45
> ACP some .357 Sig and some 5.56. My youngest son got 5000 rounds of .
> 22
What's the compulsion?
-------�ｿｽ
bub
<alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>ARGH!!!< what has happened to the Popinjay we all know and love?
>
>Trolling trolling trolling
>keep those lefties trolling
>keep those lefties rolling
hey alim, how does it feel to be home?
risky biz
> "BTSinAustin" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g6rn07x...@recgroups.com...
>
> >
> > No, we want to maintain the 2nd amendment. We have plenty of gun laws.
> >
>
> If they had wanted people to own guns then the founders would have said so
> before they added the amendments. The second amendment talks about
> regulating militias and there is no automatic right for people to own guns
> privately. It's the loop holes that is allowing all these violent criminals
> to get guns. We need to close the loopholes and adopt a national and more
> consistent gun policy in this country, setting much longer waiting periods
> and requiring safety courses before people can be licensed to purchase a
> firearm. How many children have to die before we can adopt these reasonable
> measurements?
Take a break from the Jimson weed, Paul.
----�
risky biz
> On Dec 28, 8:18�am, "mo_charles" <harrybal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
> > lord commanded: �she bought me a shotgun for xmas. �for all you liberal
> > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
> >
> > mo_charles
> >
> I think this is wonderful news 'Mo.
>
> Now by gilfriend do you mean beard? or sister?
>
> I can think of no one who should own a gun more than I think you
> should own one.
>
> First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
> industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
> civilized countries.
>
> Congrats on your new toy. Realize that you are twice as likely to be
> shot by your own gun than being shot by another.
I'm guessing Mo is about twelve times as likely to get shot by his own gun.
---�
risky biz
Not if you bury them right.
Paul Popinjay
news:4qtq07x...@recgroups.com...
> In other states its not just your safety that can
> be in danger, but your property too, I think Alaska is like that not sure.
>
God bless Sarah!
And God bless Bristol, and Piper, and Track, and Willow, and Trig,
and Donner and Blitzen.
James L. Hankins
"ContactGSW" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:4qtq07x...@recgroups.com...
>If you ever do, tell the cops two things: I was in fear of my life, I want
>to talk to my lawyer (thats not a law, just
> what we were taught).
I doubt a lawyer taught you that. It's only half-right.
You should leave out saying the first part and just stick with, "I don't
want to make any statements at all until I can talk to my lawyer."
Paul Popinjay
news:BaB_m.96478$We2....@newsfe09.iad...
nice and warm here
ContactGSW
No it was a cop that taught us that, but you are in all certainty correct,
and I will remember that. Its amazing how many cases I go to trial on,
that if the guy had just kept his mouth shut when first talking to the
cops, no way would we be at trial.
ContactGSW
Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
like fish.
---�
Jerry Sturdivant
"James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:BaB_m.96478$We2....@newsfe09.iad...
>
I used to be a cop. I would suggest something else. Find the officer in
charge (OIC, usually a sergeant) and ask to speak to him (or her) privately.
Tell them you'll talk to them "before being Mirandized." Giving them a rough
idea of what went down will make the whole process smother.
And the word you're looking for, about exposing your gun is: Menacing.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- When you secure an area, don't forget to tell the enemy.
mo_charles
> > lord commanded: �she bought me a shotgun for xmas. �for all you liberal
> > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
>
> Now by gilfriend do you mean beard? or sister?
>
> I can think of no one who should own a gun more than I think you
> should own one.
>
> First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
> industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
> civilized countries.
most civilized countries don't have democrats.
> Congrats on your new toy. Realize that you are twice as likely to be
> shot by your own gun than being shot by another.
>
> Hope your 'girlfriend' knows that if you feel homicidal for a short
> period of time, you'll be able to "get 'er done". That murder rate
> mentioned above includes tha fact the vast majority of murders are
> committed by people close to the victim.
good, i'm a control freak.
> As you shine and polish that bad boy, keep in mind that the USA has a
> suicide rate equal to India where the majority live in abject poverty.
> Just for kicks, put the barrel in your mouth and know that if a gun is
> in the house that the chance of suicide increases by something of the
> magnitude of four times. Something to keep in mind when you lose big
> at the casino.
i've lost big at the casino a number of times and never contemplated
killing myself over it. there's a big upside to arrogance.
> Remember, if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. And
> where do you think these outlaws will be getting their guns? Number
> one prize for burglers is finding a gun, Be sure to tell your
> neighbors, they'll be feeling so much safer.
i'm contemplating an nra sticker on my door to encourage them.
> You ever ride through the slums of St Louis? Ever wonder what makes
> it such a slum? Gun ownership!!! That's right, it ain't no slum until
> everybody has a gun, from Alzhiemer old ladies to lawabiding twelve
> year olds. And you have just made your community just that more
> American.
the slums of st.louis?
> No country would ever invade America because of the high rate of gun
> ownership. Works in Iraq and Afghanistan, its gotta work here.
you think gun ownership's about outside invasion? let the state manage
your health and bite your nails over the pending uzbek invasion.
> One last bit of trivia; the suicide rate doesn't peak during the Xmas
> holidays (urban legend), the highest incident rates occur during the
> early days of spring. Only 94 shopping days!
>
> Have fun and let us know how things go.
don't slip on a banana peel, bea.
mo_charles
_____________________________________________________________________�
Jerry Sturdivant
> > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the
> > good
> > lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
> > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
> I think this is wonderful news 'Mo.
>
> Now by gilfriend do you mean beard? or sister?
>
> I can think of no one who should own a gun more than I think you
> should own one.
>
> First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
> industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
> civilized countries.
Well let's see. We have a lot of automobile deaths. Is it because we have a
lot of cars? Should we get rid of cars to prevent all those traffic
accidents?
Jerry (pointing out hypocrisy) 'n Vegas
- When you dial a wrong number, you NEVER get a busy signal.
Mrs Iris Mike
>
> > First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
> > industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
> > civilized countries.
>
> Well let's see. We have a lot of automobile deaths. Is it because we have a
> lot of cars? Should we get rid of cars to prevent all those traffic
> accidents?
>
> Jerry (pointing out hypocrisy) 'n Vegas
>
Well, let's see. We have a lot of automobile deaths in America. Is it
because we have a lot of cars? Should we now abandon licenses,
registration, road signs, traffic signs, drunk driving laws, traffic
cops and seat belts, Jerry (pointy hypocrit) 'n Old Age Home?
James L. Hankins
"ContactGSW" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> No it was a cop that taught us that, but you are in all certainty correct,
> and I will remember that. Its amazing how many cases I go to trial on,
> that if the guy had just kept his mouth shut when first talking to the
> cops, no way would we be at trial.
And, it happens to people who should know better. The urge to try and
explain the situation is extremely powerful.
James L. Hankins
"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8uJ_m.86148$Wd1....@newsfe15.iad...
> I used to be a cop. I would suggest something else. Find the officer in
> charge (OIC, usually a sergeant) and ask to speak to him (or her)
> privately. Tell them you'll talk to them "before being Mirandized." Giving
> them a rough idea of what went down will make the whole process smother.
>
> And the word you're looking for, about exposing your gun is: Menacing.
Ugh. That is the worst advice in the universe if you value your freedom.
Alim Nassor
> On Dec 29 2009 10:08 PM, ContactGSW wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 29 2009 8:21 PM, Adam wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 29 2009 3:50 PM, Mrs Iris Mike wrote:
> > > > ue americans are armed.ink of no one who should own a gun more than I
> > > > think you
>
> > > > > should own one.
>
> > > > > First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
> > > > > industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
> > > > > civilized countries.
>
> > > > > shot by your own gun than being shot by another.
>
> > > > I for one would be out of a job if it were not for America's tradition,
> > > > that goes back to the very origins of our country, of the proliferation
> of
> > > > if you sit there and think guns will never be an inherent part of our
> > > > head against that brick wall, its good to see. No part of our country,
> > > > by guns. My brother the trauma surgeon depends on guns. I myself can
> > > > count very few things in life that I am good at, much less have an
> > > > expertise that less than 500 people have in the country, and that is an
> > > > ability to understand, evaluate and interpret the morphological
> > > > carry is with me as we speak, thank god this isn't Chicago. In the
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'll say this about concealed carry. I am much less likely to get
into any kind of confrontation while I carry, BECAUSE I am carrying.
I am a calmer person while carrying.
Alim Nassor
> On Dec 29 2009 9:21 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 29, 12:43 am, "mo_charles" <harrybal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the
> good
> > > > > pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>
>
> > > chicago commies prevent ownership for all but favored aldermen
> > > (http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/06/mell-pushes-gun....).
>
> > > mo_charles
>
> > Every Christmas since my boys were 12 there has been at least one gun
> > under the tree for one or both of them. Since they are grown now, we
> > usually all end up swapping ammo back and forth LOL. This year Igot a
> > case of 5.56 mm and 2 boxes of .40 SW. I got my oldest son some .45
> > ACP some .357 Sig and some 5.56. My youngest son got 5000 rounds of .
> > 22
>
> What's the compulsion?
>
> -------
>
> - Show quoted text -
No compulsion. We enjoy shooting. Nothing wrong or strange about it.
Alim Nassor
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:25:54 -0800 (PST), Alim Nassor
>
>
> >ARGH!!!< what has happened to the Popinjay we all know and love?
>
> >Trolling trolling trolling
> >keep those lefties trolling
> >keep those lefties rolling
>
> hey alim, how does it feel to be home?
Wonderful. except right now I am waiting for my wife to come out of
sugery. We have had a wonderful christmas and my grandson who was
barely talking when we left told me "Hi Gampa" Nothing better.
Alim Nassor
NEVER, EVER talk to the cops about ANYTHING, without a lawyer.
mo_charles
> >
> > You should leave out saying the first part and just stick with, "I don't
> > want to make any statements at all until I can talk to my lawyer."
>
> NEVER, EVER talk to the cops about ANYTHING, without a lawyer.
i learned this from "the wire", a cop show ... lol
mo_charles
--------�
Alim Nassor
I was a cop for a couple of years way back. I saw way to many abuses
to ever be a fan of the police again.
Follow
> "bub" <b...@plottus.com> wrote in message
> news:12qij5du74rs3bsl3...@4ax.com...
>> don't have to register rifles here. a handgun permit costs $5. go to
>> the sheriff's office fill out a form, give them the 5 bucks, you got
>> your permit in the mail in 2 days.
>
>
> Where the fuck do YOU live at? Dodge City?
Here in Utah, there is no registration (as it should be). And
background checks are circumvented if you have a concealed carry permit
(which I do). Furthermore, it is the most permissive permit in the
nation, can carry practically anywhere with impunity. Utah's gun laws
(or lack of) should be an example which all freedom hating states follow.
Follow :)
mo_charles
>
> Here in Utah, there is no registration (as it should be). And
> background checks are circumvented if you have a concealed carry permit
> (which I do). Furthermore, it is the most permissive permit in the
> nation, can carry practically anywhere with impunity. Utah's gun laws
> (or lack of) should be an example which all freedom hating states follow.
you live in utah? who knew. skied alta last year. think salt lake city
would be the best city in the nation if not for the mormons. where would
you live to escape the mormon evangelicals?
mo_charles
________________________________________________________________________�
Follow
> On Dec 28, 8:18 am, "mo_charles" <harrybal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> my girlfriend saw a star shining in the eastern sky and did what the good
>> lord commanded: she bought me a shotgun for xmas. for all you liberal
>> pussies and big state believers, true americans are armed.
>>
>
> Now by gilfriend do you mean beard? or sister?
>
> should own one.
>
> First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
> industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
> civilized countries.
>
> Congrats on your new toy. Realize that you are twice as likely to be
> shot by your own gun than being shot by another.
>
> period of time, you'll be able to "get 'er done". That murder rate
> mentioned above includes tha fact the vast majority of murders are
> committed by people close to the victim.
>
> suicide rate equal to India where the majority live in abject poverty.
> Just for kicks, put the barrel in your mouth and know that if a gun is
> in the house that the chance of suicide increases by something of the
> magnitude of four times. Something to keep in mind when you lose big
> at the casino.
>
> where do you think these outlaws will be getting their guns? Number
> one prize for burglers is finding a gun, Be sure to tell your
> neighbors, they'll be feeling so much safer.
>
> it such a slum? Gun ownership!!! That's right, it ain't no slum until
> everybody has a gun, from Alzhiemer old ladies to lawabiding twelve
> year olds. And you have just made your community just that more
> American.
>
> ownership. Works in Iraq and Afghanistan, its gotta work here.
>
> holidays (urban legend), the highest incident rates occur during the
> early days of spring. Only 94 shopping days!
>
> Have fun and let us know how things go.
>
Dumbest.
Tirade.
Ever.
Follow :)
Follow
>>> Where the fuck do YOU live at? Dodge City?
>> Here in Utah, there is no registration (as it should be). And
>> background checks are circumvented if you have a concealed carry permit
>> (which I do). Furthermore, it is the most permissive permit in the
>> nation, can carry practically anywhere with impunity. Utah's gun laws
>> (or lack of) should be an example which all freedom hating states follow.
>
> you live in utah? who knew. skied alta last year. think salt lake city
> would be the best city in the nation if not for the mormons. where would
> you live to escape the mormon evangelicals?
>
> mo_charles
It's really nice here actually, clean and pretty all the time, streets
cleaner than anywhere else because of roving garbage pickup 24/7. I
don't ski, but there is no problem at all with mormon evangelicals here,
though I don't mind the propagation of the rumor because this city is
growing way too fast for my liking. The mormons are a rapidly shrinking
minority in Utah, and though here in Salt Lake they're being replaced by
lib-tards, it's nice that they (mormons) still control the government of
the state at large. Utah is the most fiscally responsible state, with
generally sane, freedom promoting laws. I didn't think that was the
case before, but after traveling and doing business in many other
states, Utah is a sweet sweet deal.
Let me know next time you're in town.
Follow :)
Adam
> On Dec 29 2009 10:08 PM, ContactGSW wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 29 2009 8:21 PM, Adam wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 30, 11:48 am, "ContactGSW" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 29 2009 3:50 PM, Mrs Iris Mike wrote:
> > > > think you
>
> > > > > should own one.
>
> > > > > First, thank you for making the US of A the murder epicenter of the
> > > > > industrial world. We have a murder rate that is 6 times that of most
> > > > > civilized countries.
>
> > > > > Congrats on your new toy. Realize that you are twice as likely to be
> > > > > shot by your own gun than being shot by another.
>
> in fear of my life, I want to talk to my lawyer (thats not a law, just
> be in danger, but your property too, I think Alaska is like that not sure.
> Here in Arkansas you can't pull it to stop someone from taking your shit,
> but if you do you probably won't get in too much trouble.
>
> ContactGSW
>
> Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
> like fish.
>
> --------
>
> - Show quoted text -
So as an example, you walk past an alley and see someone getting
mugged by two hoods, a granny say. You keep walking and dial 911? You
know getting involved has a very good chance of escalating to the
point where you are in fear for your life.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Mrs Iris Mike" <BeaF...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:8304cdc2-c000-4cdb...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
WHOOSH!
Jerry Sturdivant
"James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:v0N_m.86161$Wd1....@newsfe15.iad...
We'll have to leave that to your opinion.
I'd suggest you watch a number of COPS shows on TV. You'll note that in real
life, the cops at the scene gather all the information they can from both
sides of an altercation _before_ Mirandizing anybody. And in some cases, we
didn't Mirandize at all. We usually shackled the right one.
Jerry 'n Vegas
Jerry Sturdivant
"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bcf70bd8-d9fc-41c1...@l2g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
Well put, sir.
Jerry (me2) 'n Vegas
Jerry Sturdivant
"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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IF you're in the wrong...
Jerry 'n Vegas
Beldin the Sorcerer
Go read Mike Matusow's book
>
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
>
Jerry Sturdivant
"Follow" <lamema...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hhggfg$ll9$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
> mo_charles wrote:
>>>> Where the fuck do YOU live at? Dodge City?
>>> Here in Utah, there is no registration (as it should be). And
>>> background checks are circumvented if you have a concealed carry permit
>>> (which I do). Furthermore, it is the most permissive permit in the
>>> nation, can carry practically anywhere with impunity. Utah's gun laws
>>> (or lack of) should be an example which all freedom hating states
>>> follow.
>>
>> you live in utah? who knew. skied alta last year. think salt lake city
>> would be the best city in the nation if not for the mormons. where would
>> you live to escape the mormon evangelicals?
>>
>> mo_charles
>
> It's really nice here actually, clean and pretty all the time, streets
> cleaner than anywhere else because of roving garbage pickup 24/7. I don't
> ski, but there is no problem at all with mormon evangelicals here, though
> I don't mind the propagation of the rumor because this city is growing way
> too fast for my liking. The mormons are a rapidly shrinking minority in
> Utah, and though here in Salt Lake they're being replaced by lib-tards,
> it's nice that they (mormons) still control the government of the state at
> large.
Didn't The Church just purchase the sidewalk in front of The Church, from
The City, not long ago? I believe it was to enforce speech and dress code.
> Utah is the most fiscally responsible state, with generally sane, freedom
> promoting laws.
Freedom? I was in SLC for a week on business and had a hell (sorry) of a
time getting a drink. Is that still in force? No booze on Sunday? No
abortions? You know, the religious government controlling everything it
can? -- Just wondering what you mean by, "freedom promoting laws."
Jerry (where there's real freedom) 'n Vegas
Alim Nassor
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Nope, like i said, NEVER. Cops don't care. If you say something you
feel is innocent and helpful it can easily be construed in such a way
as to cast you under suspicion. Best to say nothing. ever.
Adam
>
> - Show quoted text -
Isnt it probable that where there is a body with a hole in it and
you're holding the smoking gun that you are going to the station in
cuffs regardless of what you say?
Alim Nassor
>
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That's not the situation we are discussing.
Adam
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We are not discussing what you should or should'nt tellt he cops if
you have used a gun you have a permit for?
What are you tallking about? Traffic tickets?
GSW talking about his gun and what he was told to say if he used it
Jerry replying with dubious advice
James disagreeing with Jerry
You?
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> Didn't The Church just purchase the sidewalk in front of The Church,
> from The City, not long ago? I believe it was to enforce speech and
> dress code.
They purchased an entire block and made it private property, yes. It
wasn't to enforce speech and dress code, it was part of a larger project
to develop the area.
>> Utah is the most fiscally responsible state, with generally sane,
>> freedom promoting laws.
>
> Freedom? I was in SLC for a week on business and had a hell (sorry) of a
> time getting a drink. Is that still in force? No booze on Sunday? No
> abortions? You know, the religious government controlling everything it
> can? -- Just wondering what you mean by, "freedom promoting laws."
When was your last time through? The late 1800s? Abortions are legal
(nationally now, you know, according to Roe v. Wade in '73). Liquor
stores (all state run) are closed on Sunday, but bars aren't. There is
no smoking in bars or in public parks and cemeteries, but that was
largely a lib-tard movement that was picked up here. We have
unobtrusive tax laws, police, safety laws, etc. So please be more clear
when you say "religious government controlling everything." In fact,
recently, the LDS church endorsed a bill to make gays a protected class
here in Utah. The first one of its kind in the US, and because of that
endorsement, it passed easily.
> Jerry (where there's real freedom) 'n Vegas
Real freedom and a ridiculous recession due in no small part to a
spendthrift, corrupt government. How much do legislators get paid in NV
you think? Here it's about 5K a year I think, maybe it was 10K.
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risky biz
I've never felt the urge.
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> On Dec 31, 11:02�am, Alim Nassor <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 31, 7:02�am, "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >news:8111b4d6-b476-4cb2...@r14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com....
> >
> > > > On Dec 30, 1:03 pm, "James L. Hankins" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > >> "ContactGSW" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> >
> > > >>news:4qtq07x...@recgroups.com...
> >
> > > >> >If you ever do, tell the cops two things: �I was in fear of my life,
I
> > > >> >want
> > > >> >to talk to my lawyer (thats not a law, just
> > > >> > what we were taught).
> >
> > > >> I doubt a lawyer taught you that. �It's only half-right.
> >
> > > >> You should leave out saying the first part and just stick with, "I
don't
> > > >> want to make any statements at all until I can talk to my lawyer."
> >
> > > > NEVER, EVER talk to the cops about ANYTHING, without a lawyer.
> >
> > > IF you're in the wrong...
> >
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> > Nope, like i said, NEVER. �Cops don't care. �If you say something you
> > feel is innocent and helpful it can easily be construed in such a way
> > as to cast you under suspicion. �Best to say nothing. ever.- Hide quoted
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> Isnt it probable that where there is a body with a hole in it and
> you're holding the smoking gun that you are going to the station in
> cuffs regardless of what you say?
Maybe not if he welched on a bet.
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risky biz
And the guilty ones got off because you didn't read them their Miranda
rights before questioning them?
Mrs Iris Mike
SLC is nice enough. Somebody mentioned that it is was a nice place
except for all the Mormons. Well duh! How do you think it got to be a
nice place? It wasn't the Buddhists.
I remember someone telling me that as a kid a cop stopped to smack a
cigarette out of my underage friend's mouth. Seems to be a nice enough
place to me.
Beldin the Sorcerer
> Jerry Sturdivant wrote:
>
>> Didn't The Church just purchase the sidewalk in front of The Church, from
>> The City, not long ago? I believe it was to enforce speech and dress
>> code.
>
> They purchased an entire block and made it private property, yes. It
> wasn't to enforce speech and dress code, it was part of a larger project
> to develop the area.
>
>
>>> Utah is the most fiscally responsible state, with generally sane,
>>> freedom promoting laws.
>>
>> Freedom? I was in SLC for a week on business and had a hell (sorry) of a
>> time getting a drink. Is that still in force? No booze on Sunday? No
>> abortions? You know, the religious government controlling everything it
>> can? -- Just wondering what you mean by, "freedom promoting laws."
>
> When was your last time through? The late 1800s? Abortions are legal
> (nationally now, you know, according to Roe v. Wade in '73). Liquor
> stores (all state run) are closed on Sunday, but bars aren't.
There is
> no smoking in bars or in public parks and cemeteries, but that was largely
> a lib-tard movement that was picked up here.
Wow, you're a shithead.
71% pof the population isn't allowed to smoke by religion.....
We have
> unobtrusive tax laws, police, safety laws, etc. So please be more clear
> when you say "religious government controlling everything."
71% of the population in one minor religion....
You're HOW stupid, follow?
risky biz
> > > follow it. �ｿｽCarry a little KelTec 380 in a wallet holster in your back
> > > pocket, practice drawing it until you are comfortable, put 100 or so
> > > rounds through it to get to know it, and thats it. �ｿｽLess chance that you
> > > will have to use it than your airbag in the car, but its there.
> >
> > > ContactGSW
> >
> > > Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
> > > like fish.
> >
> > The law is pretty clear cut, you can't show the gun or announce its
> > presence as an intimidating factor. �ｿｽIt must be concealed at all times,
> > unless in use due to direct fear of someones life. �ｿｽYou can't walk toward
> > a threat thinking it will be an equalizer. �ｿｽYou must use it only when
> > there is a clear cut threat to someones life and you cannot extricate that
> > threat by backing away. �ｿｽIf you ever do, tell the cops two things: �ｿｽI was
> > in fear of my life, I want to talk to my lawyer (thats not a law, just
> > what we were taught). �ｿｽIn other states its not just your safety that can
> > be in danger, but your property too, I think Alaska is like that not sure..
> > �ｿｽHere in Arkansas you can't pull it to stop someone from taking your shit,
> > but if you do you probably won't get in too much trouble.
> >
> > ContactGSW
> >
> > Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
> > like fish.
> >
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>
> I'll say this about concealed carry. I am much less likely to get
> into any kind of confrontation while I carry, BECAUSE I am carrying.
> I am a calmer person while carrying.
And he shoots straighter when he's drunk.
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Brandii
> On Dec 28 2009 9:33 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
>
>
> > What's this shit? What are you getting on me about? Mo is the one who
> > started this thread. Get on his ass if you're going to get on anyone.
> > Besides, Mo is the one with the gun. And seriously, do we really need
> > people like Mo going around owning guns? Does the 2nd Amendment really
> > apply to people like Mo? Think about it.
>
> I'm sure Mo is all about responsible gun ownership... What could go wrong?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDlNIPCirLk&feature=related
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUhUAa3y4rE
>
> Chandler
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Make sure you don't do to yourself what this cop did, with that new
iron of yours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0
Busted
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You're always a moron Beldin. It's not a minor religion here, and it
isn't 71% of the population, your numbers are incorrect and high. Just
because one religion is dominant over others here, it doesn't mean they
are a "religious government controlling everything" you fuck. I find
the mormons to be a very minor part of my life and I live in a suburb of
Salt Lake City. Even when I lived in a smaller town here, they were a
small part of my life.
Where do you live that you have such a great understanding of my city?
Fucking Massachusetts-dwelling fucktard.
Get over it, ditz.
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ContactGSW
> > be in danger, but your property too, I think Alaska is like that not sure..
> > �Here in Arkansas you can't pull it to stop someone from taking your shit,
> > but if you do you probably won't get in too much trouble.
> >
> > ContactGSW
> >
> > Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
> > like fish.
> >
> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> So as an example, you walk past an alley and see someone getting
> mugged by two hoods, a granny say. You keep walking and dial 911? You
> know getting involved has a very good chance of escalating to the
> point where you are in fear for your life.
Thats correct and your choice. In New York City many will walk by. In
Little Rock, I will scream and yell for the cops, trying to bear bluff
the situation so they will run, they will run most times. If they don't
and come at me, I will pull the gun and shoot them until it is empty. Then
I guess I will tell the cops, even though they all know me, I want to talk
to the most obnoxious defense attorney I know. They will probably like me
better for it.
ContactGSW
Chic, it doesn't matter what you do, (sniiiff), you're always gonna smell
like fish.
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FL Turbo
wrote:
Heehe.
Get ready for a Beldin rant calling you a shithead and a retard with a
lack of reading comprehension that doesn't understand what he was
talking about.
I'm going to get the popcorn right now.
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> Heehe.
>
> Get ready for a Beldin rant calling you a shithead and a retard with a
> lack of reading comprehension that doesn't understand what he was
> talking about.
>
> I'm going to get the popcorn right now.
That's what I love about Beldin, predictability. He's one of my
favorite posters here because of his tourette's-like simplicity.
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Beldin the Sorcerer
Never, shithead
. It's not a minor religion here,
It's a minor religion, shitheaD.
YES, it's hip deep in Utah. THAT'S the fucking point, retard.
RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENT, you fucking moron.
They WITHOLD TITHES from your paycheck in Utah.
And if your not Mormon, it seriously impacts your hireability.
and it
> isn't 71% of the population, your numbers are incorrect and high.
Wow, you're a fucking shithead.
"http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=405126After the Olympics, we were
discovered," Wynn said. "The Sundance Film Festival got bigger. It used to
be that after Sundance, it would slow down here and my guys in the warehouse
could take some time off.
"But it isn't that way anymore," he said.
State and local governments are benefiting from more booze. Sales taxes
split between the two rose to $47 million in the 2006 fiscal year, compared
to $22 million in 1996.
School lunch programs also get a 13 percent tax on sales at state liquor
stores. The most recent figure was $20.5 million.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the dominant faith in Utah,
discourages alcohol use by its members. But the percentage of residents who
are Mormon has dropped to 71 percent from 75 percent, and not all consider
themselves "very active," according to poll data cited by the Deseret
Morning News.
Just
> because one religion is dominant over others here, it doesn't mean they
> are a "religious government controlling everything" you fuck
Shithead, a neoconservative cult with a supermajority of members in the
state.
How long you been fucked in the head, Follow?
. I find
> the mormons to be a very minor part of my life and I live in a suburb of
> Salt Lake City. Even when I lived in a smaller town here, they were a
> small part of my life.
You tithe, boy?
>
> Where do you live that you have such a great understanding of my city?
My sister's a Mormon, moron.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"FL Turbo" <noe...@notime.com> wrote in message
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Beldin the Sorcerer
easily.
It's easy for you; you're naturally an idiot
FL Turbo
Your predictability is one of the few constants in the ever changing
world of RGP.
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