The Four Horsemen of Liberal Stupidity

[ramashiva]

For the first few years I posted to RGP, most of the really stupid
people here were right-wing nutcases, while most of the smart people
were liberals. That's why I started using the term 'moronic
brownshirt fucks" to describe these people. I stopped posting for
over a year. When I came back, I was horrified to see Risky Biz and
Doggy posting. Both these guys are as dumb as they come, and they are
a true embarrassment to liberals.

Since then, Clave, Jerry, and fffurken have all started posting here,
while some of the really intelligent liberals, like Bob T, Iceman,
eleaticus, and John the Savage have stopped.

So now we have the following four knuckledragging morons mindlessly
arguing liberal talking points, with no real understanding of the
issues --

Clave

Doggy

fffurken

Jerry

I hereby dub these four clueless nimrods "The Four Horsemen of Liberal
Stupidity".

Please guys, just STFD and STFU. You are embarrassing the fuck out of
the smart liberals here. You are all dumb as dirt, and none of you
have any understanding of the issues beyond superficial talking
points. Bub is arguably the stupidest right-winger here, and you guys
make bub look like a fucking genius.


William "The Life" Coleman (ramashiva)

[Clave]

ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote...

<...>

You're so cute when you post enemies litses.

Jim

[fffurken]

On Jun 11, 4:49 am, ramashiva <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Since then, Clave, Jerry, and fffurken have all started posting here,
> while some of the really intelligent liberals, like Bob T, Iceman,
> eleaticus, and John the Savage have stopped.

Hmm.. a quik scan and I'm happy to conclude that at least you didn't
run off any of *those* people.

[ramashiva]

On Jun 10, 9:09 pm, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> You're so cute when you post enemies litses.

There's only one enemy on that list, and it's not you. It's Doggy.

I have explained this before. You are nothing more than an irritating
gnat to me. In your wildest dreams you could never make my enemies
list. Now that Bitch Bea is gone, I have only two enemies on RGP --

Doggy

Maggot the Faggot

[popinjay999]

On Jun 10, 9:09 pm, "Clave"
>

> You're so cute when you post enemies litses.
>
> Jim

Wow! Repetitive much?

[fffurken]

On Jun 11, 5:09 am, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> You're so cute when you post enemies litses.

He's been hyperactive about that recently. Ever since I put his gang
on a list.

Bear in mind Clave, ramadisabled is a farm animal. He is trying to be
humorously flippant in the original post but it doesn't work (he
should take more lessons from his friend Paul).

[Clave]

"popinjay999" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:dffd217a-8d91-443f...@qq9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...

> On Jun 10, 9:09 pm, "Clave"
>>
>> You're so cute when you post enemies litses.
>

> Wow! Repetitive much?
>
> Paul "The Blithering Doofus" Popinjay

WOW! Bite ankles much?

Jim

[fffurken]

On Jun 11, 5:27 am, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> >> You're so cute when you post enemies litses.
>
> > Wow!  Repetitive much?
>
> > Paul "The Blithering Doofus" Popinjay
>
> WOW!  Bite ankles much?

lol Good one.

Clave, you're totally fucking destroying both Wilhelm and "The Way"
here (as you did in the Sermon on the Mount thread(s)). You clearly
don't need my help. So I'm signing out, but I'll be up bright and
early for sycophantic school in the morning..

[RichD]

On Jun 10, ramashiva <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So now we have the following four knuckledragging morons
> mindlessly arguing liberal talking points, with no real
> understanding of the issues --
>
> Clave
> Doggy
> fffurken
> Jerry
>
> I hereby dub these four clueless nimrods "The Four Horsemen
> of Liberal Stupidity".
>

> You are embarrassing the fuck out of the smart liberals here.
> You are all dumb as dirt, and none of you
> have any understanding of the issues beyond superficial talking
> points.  Bub is arguably the stupidest right-winger here, and you
> guys make bub look like a fucking genius.

Speaking of breathtaking stupidity, did you hear
the latest from the emeperor? He says "The private
sector is doing fine," then everyone jumps on him,
then he backpedals.

Of course, we're used to that by now from the
Harvard douchebag and admitted Luddite. But the
real story is the REST of the story. He continued
"the problem is state and local gov't aren't geting
sufficient revenue from taxes or from Washington
to stimulate the economy."

Yes, THAT is the problem! Our rulers, the political
class and bureaucrats are the true wealth
creators.... collecting and spending taxes, they
put breakfast on our plates! And darn it, they aren't
looting/spending ENOUGH, so we're starving!

This wasn't one of his "oops, I didn't know
the mic was live" moments, this is what he truly
believes. To call it staggering is a colossal
understatement.

--
Rich

[Nickname unavailable]

another country throws the towel in on crank-o-
nomics(austerity):Spanish Bailout:Big Questions Still Remain:austerity
has never worked, yet the weak minded feverishly cling to it like a
life preserver




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/09/spanish-bailout_n_1583720.html?ref=business



Mark Gongloff
mark.g...@huffingtonpost.com




Spanish Bailout: Big Questions Still Remain
Posted: 06/09/2012 5:53 pm Updated: 06/09/2012 6:35 pm

While European soccer players were expertly kicking the ball down the
field this weekend in the Euro 2012 tournament, European finance
ministers were expertly kicking their debt crisis down the road.
Spain's request on Saturday for a 100 billion euro loan (about $125
billion) to recapitalize its banks seems likely to be at least a short-
term solution to the worries lately that have gripped European
financial markets, raising concerns about a global economic slowdown
that could push the United States back into recession.
As the odds of a bank run in Spain have increased in recent weeks,
Spanish borrowing costs have soared, while the values of the euro and
risky assets such as stocks and commodities have tumbled. Saturday's
news could at least temporarily reverse some of those ugly moves.
Even better for Spain, it gets to avoid additional austerity measures
as a condition of the loan, as Greece and other bailed-out nations
have suffered in the recent past.
But still some big questions linger.
First, will 100 billion euros ultimately be enough? A report by the
International Monetary Fund suggests this will be more than enough and
that Spanish banks need to raise 60 billion to 80 billion euros to
mollify investors and cover losses in Spain's real estate market.
But those losses might continue to grow, which would mean that Spain
has to go back to the well again. JPMorgan Chase analysts recently
estimated that Spain could need as much as 350 billion euros, the
Telegraph reported.
Second, rather than injecting the money directly into Spain's banking
system, European nations will lend it to Spain. This means that Spain,
already more than 700 billion euros in debt, could end up more than
800 billion euros in debt. The new debt has been promised at a
considerably lower interest rate than the market currently charges
Spain -- recently more than 6 percent for a 10-year loan. Still, every
little bit of extra debt hurts. How much will the market punish Spain
for having more of it?
Finally, there's the question of who might be next. Now that Spain's
bleeding has been temporarily stopped, all eyes are quickly turning to
Italy, whose banks are also in trouble and whose own borrowing costs
are rising. And no one has forgotten about Greece, which holds a new
parliamentary election next weekend that could determine its future in
the eurozone -- an event that could spark fresh market turmoil and
have European officials holding hasty bailout conference calls all
over again.
Ultimately, longer-term solutions will probably involve even more
painful political choices than Spain's decision to seek a bailout.
Those choices will include nations giving up some control over their
own fiscal affairs, to form a more unified Europe. Officials may have
kicked such choices down the road just a little bit longer this
weekend, but they're going to run out of road one of these days.

[Sid9]

"RichD" <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c04d2715-9fd9-465d...@re8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

The private sector IS doing fine!
....compared to the mess Republican bush,jr left for President Obama to
clean up.
In spite of obstructionist Republicans McConnell, B�hner, and Cantor in
congress.


RRRs, because they have nothing to latch on to with regards to Obama, create
make believe objections.
We're out of Iraq.
We're leaving Afghanistan
We've devastated Al Qaeda's leadership.
We've kill bin Laden

[mo_ntresor]

On Jun 11 2012 7:09 AM, Sid9 wrote:

> > Speaking of breathtaking stupidity, did you hear
> > the latest from the emeperor? He says "The private
> > sector is doing fine," then everyone jumps on him,
> > then he backpedals.
> >
> > Of course, we're used to that by now from the
> > Harvard douchebag and admitted Luddite. But the
> > real story is the REST of the story. He continued
> > "the problem is state and local gov't aren't geting
> > sufficient revenue from taxes or from Washington
> > to stimulate the economy."
> >
> > Yes, THAT is the problem! Our rulers, the political
> > class and bureaucrats are the true wealth
> > creators.... collecting and spending taxes, they
> > put breakfast on our plates! And darn it, they aren't
> > looting/spending ENOUGH, so we're starving!
> >
> > This wasn't one of his "oops, I didn't know
> > the mic was live" moments, this is what he truly
> > believes. To call it staggering is a colossal
> > understatement.
>

> The private sector IS doing fine!

> .....compared to the mess Republican bush,jr left for President Obama to

> clean up.
> In spite of obstructionist Republicans McConnell, B�hner, and Cantor in
> congress.
>
>
> RRRs, because they have nothing to latch on to with regards to Obama, create
> make believe objections.
> We're out of Iraq.
> We're leaving Afghanistan
> We've devastated Al Qaeda's leadership.
> We've kill bin Laden

$6T in debt in four years.

mo_ntresor

[mo_ntresor]

On Jun 10 2012 10:57 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

> > Speaking of breathtaking stupidity, did you hear
> > the latest from the emeperor? �He says "The private
> > sector is doing fine," then everyone jumps on him,
> > then he backpedals.
> >
> > Of course, we're used to that by now from the
> > Harvard douchebag and admitted Luddite. �But the
> > real story is the REST of the story. �He continued
> > "the problem is state and local gov't aren't geting
> > sufficient revenue from taxes or from Washington
> > to stimulate the economy."
> >
> > Yes, THAT is the problem! �Our rulers, the political
> > class and bureaucrats are the true wealth
> > creators.... collecting and spending taxes, they
> > put breakfast on our plates! �And darn it, they aren't
> > looting/spending ENOUGH, so we're starving!
> >
> > This wasn't one of his "oops, I didn't know
> > the mic was live" moments, this is what he truly
> > believes. �To call it staggering is a colossal
> > understatement.
>

spending and debt don't matter. when are the lazy germans going to beg
hardworking southern europeans for money?

mo_ntresor

[Will in New Haven]

You keep _saying_ that.

--
Willy "The Lamb" Reich

[mo_ntresor]

pepe belongs on any stupid liberal list.

mo_ntresor

[VegasJerry]

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:49:23 PM UTC-7, ramashiva wrote:
> For the first few years I posted to RGP, most of the really stupid
> people here were right-wing nutcases, while most of the smart people
> were liberals. That's why I started using the term 'moronic
> brownshirt fucks" to describe these people. I stopped posting for
> over a year. When I came back, I was horrified to see Risky Biz and
> Doggy posting. Both these guys are as dumb as they come, and they are
> a true embarrassment to liberals.
>
> Since then, Clave, Jerry, and fffurken have all started posting here,
> while some of the really intelligent liberals, like Bob T, Iceman,
> eleaticus, and John the Savage have stopped.
>
> So now we have the following four knuckledragging morons mindlessly
> arguing liberal talking points, with no real understanding of the
> issues --
>
> Clave
>
> Doggy
>
> fffurken
>
> Jerry
>
> I hereby dub these four clueless nimrods "The Four Horsemen of Liberal
> Stupidity".

You poor whiney bitch. You've just listed the people that have embarrassed you in debates. Some of them to the point where you (falsely) refuse to even read them (making you a liar). Keep weeping, weard-o.


Jerry (and the gang of 4) 'n Vegas

[VegasJerry]

On Monday, June 11, 2012 7:12:57 AM UTC-7, mo_ntresor wrote:
> On Jun 11 2012 7:09 AM, Sid9 wrote:
>
> > > Speaking of breathtaking stupidity, did you hear
> > > the latest from the emeperor? He says "The private
> > > sector is doing fine," then everyone jumps on him,
> > > then he backpedals.
> > >
> > > Of course, we're used to that by now from the
> > > Harvard douchebag and admitted Luddite. But the
> > > real story is the REST of the story. He continued
> > > "the problem is state and local gov't aren't geting
> > > sufficient revenue from taxes or from Washington
> > > to stimulate the economy."
> > >
> > > Yes, THAT is the problem! Our rulers, the political
> > > class and bureaucrats are the true wealth
> > > creators.... collecting and spending taxes, they
> > > put breakfast on our plates! And darn it, they aren't
> > > looting/spending ENOUGH, so we're starving!
> > >
> > > This wasn't one of his "oops, I didn't know
> > > the mic was live" moments, this is what he truly
> > > believes. To call it staggering is a colossal
> > > understatement.
> >
> > The private sector IS doing fine!
> > .....compared to the mess Republican bush,jr left for President Obama to
> > clean up.

> > In spite of obstructionist Republicans McConnell, Böhner, and Cantor in

> > congress.
> >
> >
> > RRRs, because they have nothing to latch on to with regards to Obama, create
> > make believe objections.
> > We're out of Iraq.
> > We're leaving Afghanistan
> > We've devastated Al Qaeda's leadership.
> > We've kill bin Laden

> $6T in debt in four years.
>
> mo_ntresor

Only $1.3 of it President Obama's. The rest was continued from Bush (2 wars, tax cut for the rich, Medicare).

The fact you don't know this go to your ignorance.


Jerry

[VegasJerry]

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:55:57 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
> On Jun 10, ramashiva <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So now we have the following four knuckledragging morons
> > mindlessly arguing liberal talking points, with no real
> > understanding of the issues --
> >
> > Clave
> > Doggy
> > fffurken
> > Jerry
> >
> > I hereby dub these four clueless nimrods "The Four Horsemen
> > of Liberal Stupidity".
> >
> > You are embarrassing the fuck out of the smart liberals here.
> > You are all dumb as dirt, and none of you
> > have any understanding of the issues beyond superficial talking
> > points.  Bub is arguably the stupidest right-winger here, and you
> > guys make bub look like a fucking genius.
>
> Speaking of breathtaking stupidity, did you hear
> the latest from the emeperor? He says "The private
> sector is doing fine," then everyone jumps on him,
> then he backpedals.

I'm afraid the 'breathtaking supiidity' is all yours. Did you even hear the talk where this was taken out of context from?


Jerry "The Way" 'n Veags

[bub]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:49:23 -0700 (PDT), ramashiva
<ramas...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bub is arguably the stupidest right-winger here

the fact you sit in front of your computer at night ,in your tool shed
of a house, and think of 'bub' is really fucking creepy.

> and you guys make bub look like a fucking genius.

please learn about capitalization.

[Eddie Haskell]

"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:jr4qmf$p7h$1...@dont-email.me...

Guess what, Sid. Your president is a LIAR.

Unemployment According the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

Government: 4.2%

Manufacturing: 7.1%

Leisure and Hospitality: 9.7%

Construction: 14.2%

> ....compared to the mess Republican bush,jr left for President Obama to
> clean up.

BRAACK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMPPGlOpUiM

"The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory
overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a
decade ago."

"Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency
would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the
two largest players in the mortgage lending industry."

http://tinyurl.com/6lp5qu

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any
kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of
Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.
''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on
these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

> In spite of obstructionist Republicans McConnell, B�hner, and Cantor in
> congress.

Back to the obstructionist mantra as opposed to crediting the Hussein agenda
a few months ago, huh, Sid, you brain dead DNC idolater? Oh, and Krugman,
like all democrats, is a LIAR:

Is Our Economy Healing?
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: January 22, 2012

"But there are reasons to think that we're finally on the (slow) road to
better times. And we wouldn't be on that road if Mr. Obama had given in to
Republican demands that he slash spending"

This Republican Economy
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: June 3, 2012

"What should be done about the economy? Republicans claim to have the
answer: slash spending and cut taxes. What they hope voters won't notice
is that that's precisely the policy we've been following the past couple
of years."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/23/opinion/krugman-is-our-economy-healing.html?ref=paulkrugman

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/04/opinion/krugman-this-republican-economy.html?_r=1

> RRRs, because they have nothing to latch on to with regards to Obama,
> create make believe objections.
> We're out of Iraq.

Thanks to the fact that Bush won it with the surge while Hussein opposed it.
You have nothing.

> We're leaving Afghanistan
> We've devastated Al Qaeda's leadership.

Killing them as opposed to Bush who captured and interrogated for the kind
of information that Hussein gets to benefit from while the next president
will inherit a blind intelligence community just like Bush did.

> We've kill bin Laden

And Hussein had not one damned thing to do with it while he smeared and lied
about Bush the whole damned way:

WASHINGTON - Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to
track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon
Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.

"Enhanced interrogation techniques" were used to extract information that
led to the mission's success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor
Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42880435/ns/today-today_news/t/cia-chief-waterboarding-aided-bin-laden-raid/#.T9abaZgdySo

-Eddie Haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

"RichD" <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c04d2715-9fd9-465d...@re8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

On Jun 10, ramashiva <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So now we have the following four knuckledragging morons
> mindlessly arguing liberal talking points, with no real
> understanding of the issues --
>
> Clave
> Doggy
> fffurken
> Jerry
>
> I hereby dub these four clueless nimrods "The Four Horsemen
> of Liberal Stupidity".
>
> You are embarrassing the fuck out of the smart liberals here.
> You are all dumb as dirt, and none of you
> have any understanding of the issues beyond superficial talking
> points. Bub is arguably the stupidest right-winger here, and you
> guys make bub look like a fucking genius.

> Speaking of breathtaking stupidity, did you hear
> the latest from the emeperor? He says "The private
> sector is doing fine," then everyone jumps on him,
> then he backpedals.

Unemployment According the Bureau of Labor Statistics

Government: 4.2%

Manufacturing: 7.1%

Leisure and Hospitality: 9.7%

Construction: 14.2%

""The private sector is doing fine," the president said during a White House
press conference. "Where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do
with state and local government. . If Republicans want to be helpful, if
they really want to move forward and put people back to work, what they
should be thinking about is how do we help state and local governments." "

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/08/obama-tells-congress-european-leaders-to-improve-economy-avert-crisis/

-Eddie Haskell

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Obama must have meant that the weakness in the economy has to do with
UNION MEMBERS that are primarily State and Local employees.



We "need" more government unemployment.....




--
*He has the most who is most content with the least* -Diogenes-

-Kum bay ya- ☠

[Eddie Haskell]

"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:4FD69F03...@blackhole.nebulax.com...

Close, he thinks that the weakness of the DNC is fewer union dues funneled
to the democrat party.

To hell with the country.

-Eddie Haskell

[Pepe Papon]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:13:18 -0700 (PDT), VegasJerry <jer...@cox.net>
wrote:

>> > RRRs, because they have nothing to latch on to with regards to Obama, create
>> > make believe objections.
>> > We're out of Iraq.
>> > We're leaving Afghanistan
>> > We've devastated Al Qaeda's leadership.
>> > We've kill bin Laden
>
>> $6T in debt in four years.
>>
>> mo_ntresor
>
>Only $1.3 of it President Obama's. The rest was continued from Bush (2 wars, tax cut for the rich, Medicare).
>
>The fact you don't know this go to your ignorance.

I think he knows it. It's not ignorance, it's dishonesty.

--

Pepe "The Revelation" Papon

[VegasJerry]

I was being nice. Let's call him stupid, rather than a liar.

[brewmaster]

Isn't calling him stupid being nicer than calling him a liar? Stupid is
something you are born with and are stuck with. Liar is an evil quality
you choose to have.

>
>
> >
> > --
> >
> > Pepe "The Revelation" Papon

--
Alan "The Hope" Gilbert

[mo_ntresor]

On Jun 13 2012 7:58 AM, brewmaster wrote:

> > I was being nice. Let's call him stupid, rather than a liar.
>
> Isn't calling him stupid being nicer than calling him a liar? Stupid is
> something you are born with and are stuck with. Liar is an evil quality
> you choose to have.

stupid is caring what these two lintballs say about anything.

mo_ntresor

[VegasJerry]

On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:58:30 AM UTC-7, brewmaster wrote:
> On Jun 13 2012 6:42 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:20:03 AM UTC-7, Pepe Papon wrote:
> > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:13:18 -0700 (PDT), VegasJerry <jer...@cox.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > RRRs, because they have nothing to latch on to with regards to Obama,
> create
> > > >> > make believe objections.
> > > >> > We're out of Iraq.
> > > >> > We're leaving Afghanistan
> > > >> > We've devastated Al Qaeda's leadership.
> > > >> > We've kill bin Laden
> > > >
> > > >> $6T in debt in four years.
> > > >>
> > > >> mo_ntresor
> > > >
> > > >Only $1.3 of it President Obama's. The rest was continued from Bush (2
> wars, tax cut for the
> > rich, Medicare).
> > > >
> > > >The fact you don't know this go to your ignorance.
> > >
> > > I think he knows it. It's not ignorance, it's dishonesty.
> >
> > I was being nice. Let's call him stupid, rather than a liar.

> Isn't calling him stupid being nicer than calling him a liar?

Unless I'm misreading myself; that's what I said.


Jerry (being nice) 'n Vegas

[Pepe Papon]

And you care enough to reply.