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Paul Popinjay

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Mar 9, 2010, 11:17:18 AM3/9/10
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I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than you
have. This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw that
broke the camel's back. If I were Susan, I would immediately forward any of
your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
central headquarters.

By the way, I have seen proof possitive that your record in any buy-in
events over $5 at Full Tilt shows you to be a pathetic loser. Yet in your
ego-driven warped mind you feel the necessity to clutter this newsgroup with
your never-ending boring-ass hand histories. Newsflash, sicko, no one gives
a fuck about your micro-stakes poker exploits. Put that in your book.


John_Brian_K

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Mar 9, 2010, 11:42:51 AM3/9/10
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Hey PeePee!

Wanna play some cards?

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I CAN make this shit up!
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Paul Popinjay

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Mar 9, 2010, 11:30:07 AM3/9/10
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"John_Brian_K" <a7e...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hey PeePee!
>
> Wanna play some cards?
>


With who? You? Sure. But I have to go right now.

Hey, I am now on the instant message thingy that some of the rgp gang uses.
You're going to have to get on it, if you're not already.


Will in New Haven

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Mar 9, 2010, 11:53:40 AM3/9/10
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On Mar 9, 11:17 am, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than you
> have.  This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw that
> broke the camel's back.  If I were Susan, I would immediately forward any of
> your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
> central headquarters.

I haven't found the concept all that interesting but exactly what law
do you imagine he has broken? I know that you dream of a police-state
in which anything that Paul Popinjay doesn't like is a criminal
offense but we don't live in that Popinjay wet-dream. And we never
will.

--
Will in New Haven

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Mar 9, 2010, 12:47:37 PM3/9/10
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Peepee, how long have you been drunk today?
Seriously...

>


John the Savage

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Mar 9, 2010, 2:15:17 PM3/9/10
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On 3/9/2010 11:17 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than you
> have. This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw that
> broke the camel's back. If I were Susan, I would immediately forward any of
> your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
> central headquarters.

Wow, I just caught on to this whole thing today. Beldin is writing a
book, eh? As Jason P. says, holy shit.

While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
pretty interesting in its own right. Of course, you don't need anyone's
permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional
character. And if you really want to write a book, you just go ahead
and write a book, and show it to people when you are done. So why is
Beldin here telling us all about it and asking us all if it is okay that
he models characters after us? And even offering us copies?

Because he's desperate for attention, that's why! Yes, he's just dying
for recognition, for caring, for interest, for love!, from this group of
people he has never met and whom he continuously refers to as shitheads,
retards, and perverts. What a mind on that boy! A true artist. I'm
sure this "epic fantasy" will really be a treat. I wonder what the
publisher will think when they discover their author is already well
known on the internet circuit as a universally despised contributor of
unreadable prose.

And just so you know, Paul, when I finally get around to properly
satirizing this ridiculous world we find ourselves in, there is
certainly going to be some fictional asshole with a lot of your traits.
Like it or not. So you'd better get the FBI on the phone.


RUStupid Mark

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Mar 9, 2010, 2:19:09 PM3/9/10
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"John the Savage" <savag...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/9/2010 11:17 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>> I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than
>> you
>> have. This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw
>> that
>> broke the camel's back. If I were Susan, I would immediately forward any
>> of
>> your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
>> central headquarters.
>
> Wow, I just caught on to this whole thing today. Beldin is writing a
> book, eh? As Jason P. says, holy shit.
>
> While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
> pretty interesting in its own right. Of course, you don't need anyone's
> permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional character.
> And if you really want to write a book, you just go ahead and write a
> book, and show it to people when you are done. So why is Beldin here
> telling us all about it and asking us all if it is okay that he models
> characters after us? And even offering us copies?
<SNIP>

If you fuck up my chance to play Orehitna in the movie,
or cost me a free book, I'm going to kick you in the nuts!

How do you like THOSE apples, pretty boy :P


John the Savage

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Mar 9, 2010, 2:19:55 PM3/9/10
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If I may, Paul, what message program are you using? I'd like to
recommend you choose Skype. I've just moved over to it myself, and it
is really quite superior to older programs like AIM. First of all, if
you have a webcam, you can have Jetsons-style video calls with your
friends, and I know you and Morphy would get a big kick out of that. If
you don't, you can still hold traditional text only internet chats. And
you use your microphone alone to place calls to regular old telephones
over the internet as well. It is much more featured and modern than
programs like AIM or Yahoo messenger, and also less polluted with spam.

Just a suggestion, and perhaps you are already happily Skype-ing. But
somebody has to bring you old folks up to speed.

RUStupid Mark

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Mar 9, 2010, 2:33:45 PM3/9/10
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"John the Savage" <savag...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/9/2010 11:30 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>> "John_Brian_K"<a7e...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:bdai67x...@recgroups.com...
>>
>>> Hey PeePee!
>>>
>>> Wanna play some cards?
>>
>> With who? You? Sure. But I have to go right now.
>>
>> Hey, I am now on the instant message thingy that some of the rgp gang
>> uses.
>> You're going to have to get on it, if you're not already.
>
> If I may, Paul, what message program are you using? I'd like to recommend
> you choose Skype. I've just moved over to it myself, and it is really
> quite superior to older programs like AIM.

He's using Pidgin, it's really quite superior to proprietary programs
like Skype as you can maintain all of your connections (AIM/MSN/
Yahoo/Skype/Myspace/etc) in one place.

Someone has to bring you stupid kids up to speed. =)

Mark

John the Savage

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Mar 9, 2010, 2:39:46 PM3/9/10
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On 3/9/2010 2:33 PM, RUStupid Mark wrote:
>
> "John the Savage" <savag...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> If I may, Paul, what message program are you using? I'd like to
>> recommend you choose Skype. I've just moved over to it myself, and it
>> is really quite superior to older programs like AIM.
>
> He's using Pidgin, it's really quite superior to proprietary programs
> like Skype as you can maintain all of your connections (AIM/MSN/
> Yahoo/Skype/Myspace/etc) in one place.
>
> Someone has to bring you stupid kids up to speed. =)

Interesting. Thanks for this. But he still has to be signing into
something, amirite? And better that be Skype than AIM. Video chat
isn't just for Teen Kelly, after all.

Besides, shouldn't we keep it as simple as possible for Paul? I'm
concerned that we may be giving him too much to handle at once. Keep in
mind this is a guy that can barely use a remote control.

Jason Pawloski

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Mar 9, 2010, 2:58:05 PM3/9/10
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On Mar 9 2010 12:15 PM, John the Savage wrote:

> On 3/9/2010 11:17 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> > I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than you
> > have. This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw that
> > broke the camel's back. If I were Susan, I would immediately forward any
of
> > your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
> > central headquarters.
>
> Wow, I just caught on to this whole thing today. Beldin is writing a
> book, eh? As Jason P. says, holy shit.
>
> While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
> pretty interesting in its own right. Of course, you don't need anyone's
> permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional
> character.

WWWWWRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG

(like usual)

--
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"ONLY ONE PROBLEM .. The Constitution doesnt have a preamble , but the
declaration of Independence does !! YOU JUST CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP !!
:fuck facts ..i have some hate to spread!!" - Constitution scholar K9Way
giving RGP the business

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in on how little he knows about a train system that's been operational
since 1972

John the Savage

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Mar 9, 2010, 2:54:10 PM3/9/10
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On 3/9/2010 2:58 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
> On Mar 9 2010 12:15 PM, John the Savage wrote:
>>
>> While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
>> pretty interesting in its own right. Of course, you don't need anyone's
>> permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional
>> character.
>
> WWWWWRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG
>
> (like usual)

And with the chance to move the discussion somewhere interesting, Jason
P. did this.

Yes, there have been some recent examples (at least one I have heard of)
of libel standing up in court from a fictional work. However I still
think this is the exception rather than the rule. I am not familiar
with the specifics of such cases but I guess you are, and therefore you
should enlighten us.

Regardless, simply using someone you have met or read as inspiration,
and borrowing many of their personal traits, without telling anyone
about it, is something that is done by authors probably universally. To
prove that such a thing has illegally libeled you would be nearly
impossible in a case like the book Beldin has described. This isn't Law
and Order about real life corruption.

It is a rather interesting topic but of course you have stopped at the
most superficial of pronouncements which is your special way. Maybe the
grown ups will have something more interesting to say about it.

RUStupid Mark

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Mar 9, 2010, 3:02:38 PM3/9/10
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"John the Savage" <savag...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/9/2010 2:33 PM, RUStupid Mark wrote:
>>
>> "John the Savage" <savag...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> If I may, Paul, what message program are you using? I'd like to
>>> recommend you choose Skype. I've just moved over to it myself, and it
>>> is really quite superior to older programs like AIM.
>>
>> He's using Pidgin, it's really quite superior to proprietary programs
>> like Skype as you can maintain all of your connections (AIM/MSN/
>> Yahoo/Skype/Myspace/etc) in one place.
>>
>> Someone has to bring you stupid kids up to speed. =)
>
> Interesting. Thanks for this. But he still has to be signing into
> something, amirite?

Using Pidgin, he can sign into 'everything' at once...
that's what it does!

> And better that be Skype than AIM. Video chat isn't just for Teen Kelly,
> after all.

Some of us like to play the pokerz naked...
and we all don't look like YOU pretty boy =)
Nobody wants to look at our ugly mugs while
chatting with us! Stop rubbing it in!

> Besides, shouldn't we keep it as simple as possible for Paul?

Look into Pidgin, can't get any simpler.

> I'm concerned that we may be giving him too much to handle at once. Keep
> in mind this is a guy that can barely use a remote control.

He's already got it down pat. =)

Now, what's your AIM ID? (still the preferred network
for donk-chatters. o0o)

Paul Popinjay

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Mar 9, 2010, 4:19:27 PM3/9/10
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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> Peepee, how long have you been drunk today?
> Seriously...
>


So then you do not contest or deny this?

Paul Popinjay

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Mar 9, 2010, 7:24:30 PM3/9/10
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"Will in New Haven" <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in message
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> I haven't found the concept all that interesting but exactly what law
> do you imagine he has broken? I know that you dream of a police-state
> in which anything that Paul Popinjay doesn't like is a criminal
> offense but we don't live in that Popinjay wet-dream. And we never
> will.


Then I don't care. Susan told me to go ahead and post the picture I had of
her, because she doesn't really know how to do it, and even though it is
against my better judgement, who am I to disagree. If none of you people
think that Beldin is way out of line by asking, and indeed if Susan herself
does not mind, then go ahead, what do I care.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4420459875/

Will in New Haven

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:08:24 PM3/9/10
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On Mar 9, 2:58 pm, "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Mar 9 2010 12:15 PM, John the Savage wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 3/9/2010 11:17 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> > > I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than you
> > > have.  This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw that
> > > broke the camel's back.  If I were Susan, I would immediately forward any
> of
> > > your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
> > > central headquarters.
>
> > Wow, I just caught on to this whole thing today.  Beldin is writing a
> > book, eh?  As Jason P. says, holy shit.
>
> > While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
> > pretty interesting in its own right.  Of course, you don't need anyone's
> > permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional
> > character.  
>
> WWWWWRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG
>
> (like usual)

Nope. No one has ever been able to stop an author of a work of fiction
from portraying anyone he pleases in any way she pleases. There is no
legal protection to being satirized or otherwise portrayed in
fiction.

Will in New Haven

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:10:26 PM3/9/10
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If you don't ADMIT that the character is based on someone real, you
can't possibly be sued successfully. Of course, going around braying
about it while you write the book might leave you vulnerable. But the
book would have to be published for it to matter.

Will in New Haven

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On Mar 9, 7:24 pm, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Will in New Haven" <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in messagenews:85e7e324-167b-4fb6...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

<not clicking on the ling> That is a completely different matter.
Using someone as a model for a character in a novel is not a criminal
offense and is almost impossible to prove if it comes to a lawsuit.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:35:48 PM3/9/10
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Paul, here's the thing.

I didn't ask her what she looked like.
I asked her if she had a preference what the character looked like.
She's free to make up anything if she wants.

This is much more to not offend her with MY choice of appearance.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:38:39 PM3/9/10
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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You haven't.
This year's $10+ numbers show a profit.
There were a few firsts and seconds in 2004-2005 that OPR doesn't count.

The variance is huge on the midnight madness, and most of my $10 plays are
that one.


>
>
>


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:46:04 PM3/9/10
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"John the Savage" <savag...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/9/2010 11:17 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>> I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than
>> you
>> have. This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw
>> that
>> broke the camel's back. If I were Susan, I would immediately forward any
>> of
>> your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
>> central headquarters.
>
> Wow, I just caught on to this whole thing today. Beldin is writing a
> book, eh? As Jason P. says, holy shit.

Hey, that's old news.
Been out for weeks.

>
> While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
> pretty interesting in its own right. Of course, you don't need anyone's
> permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional character.
> And if you really want to write a book, you just go ahead and write a
> book, and show it to people when you are done. So why is Beldin here
> telling us all about it and asking us all if it is okay that he models
> characters after us? And even offering us copies?

Because I actually believe there's a difference between the real world and
someone's internet persona and if someone would like to be able to show
someone a character was based on them, I can make it obvious, and if they'd
rather it not look that way, I can disguise it.

>
> Because he's desperate for attention, that's why!

Uh, no.

Yes, he's just dying
> for recognition, for caring, for interest, for love!, from this group of
> people he has never met and whom he continuously refers to as shitheads,
> retards, and perverts.

Wait a minute.
I don't believe I've refered to EVERYONE here as any of those.

Nor do I think 'pervert' is a bad thing.

What a mind on that boy! A true artist. I'm
> sure this "epic fantasy" will really be a treat. I wonder what the
> publisher will think when they discover their author is already well known
> on the internet circuit as a universally despised contributor of
> unreadable prose.

I'm not sure that's remotely accurate either.
Slip off your meds today?

>
> And just so you know, Paul, when I finally get around to properly
> satirizing this ridiculous world we find ourselves in, there is certainly
> going to be some fictional asshole with a lot of your traits. Like it or
> not. So you'd better get the FBI on the phone.

He's not an asshole.
Just a little insane

>
>


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:47:29 PM3/9/10
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"RUStupid Mark" <dipu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Mark, no problem.
I made a promise to anyone who wants in.
No idea if anything will happen from writing it, but I'm writing it.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:51:17 PM3/9/10
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"Will in New Haven" <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in message
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***
Plus, it's fantasy. Saying someone's occupation inspired you to model a
court historian on them in a superficial way
can hardly be used as grounds for libel.
Of course telling them in advance and having them give permission is most
helpful


risky biz

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Mar 9, 2010, 10:32:57 PM3/9/10
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On Mar 9 2010 12:58 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote:

> On Mar 9 2010 12:15 PM, John the Savage wrote:
>
> > On 3/9/2010 11:17 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> > > I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than
you
> > > have. This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw
that
> > > broke the camel's back. If I were Susan, I would immediately forward any
> of
> > > your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
> > > central headquarters.
> >
> > Wow, I just caught on to this whole thing today. Beldin is writing a
> > book, eh? As Jason P. says, holy shit.
> >
> > While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
> > pretty interesting in its own right. Of course, you don't need anyone's
> > permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional
> > character.
>
> WWWWWRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG
>
> (like usual)

Jason, who TF, other than you, says, 'like usual"?

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risky biz

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Mar 9, 2010, 10:31:05 PM3/9/10
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On Mar 9 2010 12:15 PM, John the Savage wrote:

> On 3/9/2010 11:17 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> > I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than you
> > have. This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw that
> > broke the camel's back. If I were Susan, I would immediately forward any
of
> > your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
> > central headquarters.
>
> Wow, I just caught on to this whole thing today. Beldin is writing a
> book, eh? As Jason P. says, holy shit.
>
> While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
> pretty interesting in its own right. Of course, you don't need anyone's
> permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional
> character. And if you really want to write a book, you just go ahead
> and write a book, and show it to people when you are done. So why is
> Beldin here telling us all about it and asking us all if it is okay that
> he models characters after us? And even offering us copies?
>
> Because he's desperate for attention, that's why!

So am I. I definitely want to be in his book.

Anyway, wouldn't it be a good idea to keep him busy with something? It's
going to be at least funny. Odds are, though, that he never finishes
anything he starts which requires any effort.

> Yes, he's just dying
> for recognition, for caring, for interest, for love!, from this group of
> people he has never met and whom he continuously refers to as shitheads,
> retards, and perverts. What a mind on that boy! A true artist. I'm
> sure this "epic fantasy" will really be a treat. I wonder what the
> publisher will think when they discover their author is already well
> known on the internet circuit as a universally despised contributor of
> unreadable prose.
>
> And just so you know, Paul, when I finally get around to properly
> satirizing this ridiculous world we find ourselves in, there is
> certainly going to be some fictional asshole with a lot of your traits.
> Like it or not. So you'd better get the FBI on the phone.

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Paul Popinjay

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"Will in New Haven" <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4420459875/

> not clicking on the link>


Why? It is a nice photo. She is an attractive woman, although I think she
would look better with her hair styled longer than in this photo. But it
looks good like this too, but I would be afraid that Beldin might make her
out to be a dyke because of the hair style. Not that there's anything wrong
with that but you know Beldin will surely twist things around in his twisted
mind now that he sees how short her hair is. I should not have uploaded
this photo but she told me to go ahead and do it and that she doesn't think
there is any reason to be alarmed by Beldin's seemingly freakish
personality, although I still think she should at least let the authorities
know of some of his remarks. He worries me.

Paul Popinjay

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> You haven't.
> This year's $10+ numbers show a profit.


It's only March 9th, you disingenuous fraud! Sorry Beldin, but the
statistics do no lie. You are a pathetic loser at anything over $5, and the
whole world needs to know this. You have been living a lie! I would love
to play a proven pathetic loser like yourself in a series of freeze-outs on
Poker Stars, but I am almost possitive that you would not have the balls to
do so.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"risky biz" <risk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Mar 9 2010 12:15 PM, John the Savage wrote:
>
>> On 3/9/2010 11:17 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>> > I don't know anyone who has contributed to the decline of RGP more than
>> > you
>> > have. This latest book thing you are supposedly writing is the straw
>> > that
>> > broke the camel's back. If I were Susan, I would immediately forward
>> > any
> of
>> > your posts about writing a book using her as a character, to the FBI's
>> > central headquarters.
>>
>> Wow, I just caught on to this whole thing today. Beldin is writing a
>> book, eh? As Jason P. says, holy shit.
>>
>> While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
>> pretty interesting in its own right. Of course, you don't need anyone's
>> permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional
>> character. And if you really want to write a book, you just go ahead
>> and write a book, and show it to people when you are done. So why is
>> Beldin here telling us all about it and asking us all if it is okay that
>> he models characters after us? And even offering us copies?
>>
>> Because he's desperate for attention, that's why!
>
> So am I. I definitely want to be in his book.
Ok. I need more from you than you're politically liberal though.

>
> Anyway, wouldn't it be a good idea to keep him busy with something? It's
> going to be at least funny. Odds are, though, that he never finishes
> anything he starts which requires any effort.

Bet?

I'm 40 pages in.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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I worry YOU?

Queen Sunas isn't gay.
In fact, she needs a consort eventually.

>
>


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Peepee, you know the truth is that I win.
So stuff it.

Very truly yours,
Beldin


Jason Pawloski

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J. H. C., do you do anything useful besides telling rambling stories about
how you wanted to bone that ugly hag Gracey Slick in the 60s?

http://www.videojug.com/interview/the-characters-in-your-book

"I've based a character on someone I know will this get me into trouble?

If you base a character on someone you know, it could get you into trouble
if the portrait you created is very similar to the real life character.
The character may want to sue you. It is unlikely, but it does happen, of
course. It is probably good practice to create fictional characters that
do not resemble anyone you know in the end. "

http://removeme.techdirt.com/articles/20091121/1353527039.shtml

"Jury Says Fictional Character Can Be Libelous"

"Plenty of fiction authors base their characters on real life people. But,
perhaps they need to be more careful. A jury has ruled in favor of someone
who claimed libel against an author for supposedly writing a character
"inspired by" a former friend."

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090415173031AAMGQL4

http://copyrighteous.blogspot.com/2007/08/lawsuit-free-writing-in-lawsuit-happy.html

http://johnaugust.com/archives/2010/real-asshole

.. and about a billion other links if you bothered to Google.

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On Mar 9 2010 9:46 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:

> Peepee, you know the truth is that I win.
> So stuff it.

I don't think anyone has ever doubted that you win. The thing is you're
vomiting $1 hand histories onto this newsgroup daily. When people ask you
why you can't play anything over $1 tourneys and haven't for the past few
years, you first blame the US govt, and then claim that you play much
higher. The first excuse is a joke because you seem to be the only one it
affects, and the second is also a joke because according to the same
numbers from the same site that you use to prove you are a winner, it
clearly shows you are a losing player at anything above the $5 level.

Any questions?

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"XaQ Morphy" <a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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The first excuse is a joke because you seem to be the only one it
> affects, and the second is also a joke because according to the same
> numbers from the same site that you use to prove you are a winner, it
> clearly shows you are a losing player at anything above the $5 level.
>

Not just a losing player, but a pathetic losing player.


Paul Popinjay

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>
> Peepee, you know the truth is that I win.
> So stuff it.
>


The truth is, that I would like to play you a series of some games as soon
as me and Morphy finish. I know there will be a huge difference, though,
because me and Morphy were very close competitively, but I know I will
dominate the ever-loving fuck out of you and would be very surprised if you
have the balls to play.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Not slightly.

Peepee, why do this?
You have to dress up like a girl to play poker, for fucks sake


>
>


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Who you have in mind to play behind the mask of Kelly, Peepee?


>


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"XaQ Morphy" <a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mar 9 2010 9:46 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> Peepee, you know the truth is that I win.
>> So stuff it.
>
> I don't think anyone has ever doubted that you win. The thing is you're
> vomiting $1 hand histories onto this newsgroup daily.


Oh please.
I haven't played many $1 lately.
Mostly it's $2-$10

When people ask you
> why you can't play anything over $1 tourneys and haven't for the past few
> years, you first blame the US govt, and then claim that you play much
> higher. The first excuse is a joke because you seem to be the only one it
> affects, and the second is also a joke because according to the same
> numbers from the same site that you use to prove you are a winner, it
> clearly shows you are a losing player at anything above the $5 level.

Xaq, I blame the UIGEA for why I don't have the ability to move money
between sites.

I cite bankroll management for my maximum buy in. Lots of people blow off
BM. Lots of people lose, too.

my 2010 Full tilt numbers show a 77% ROI in $10+ tournaments.

My full tracking on Stars shows an 87% roi in $10+ tournaments

You know you're full of it.
You know further that the predominant $10 tourney I play on tilt has a field
depth of 2000+ players. The variance in that is so high a long term winner
could expect to be losing after a lot more plays than I've made.
Until you make the final table once, you're likely under water.

>
> Any questions?
Yeah, did you think about this before you posted it, or was it just a cheap
shot?


Paul Popinjay

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> my 2010 Full tilt numbers show a 77% ROI in $10+ tournaments.
>
> My full tracking on Stars shows an 87% roi in $10+ tournaments
>

Why then do you not say what your full tracking on FTP is? You say what it
is on Stars, yet you ONLY say what it is for the first 2-1/2 months of 2010
on FTP. Your nose is growing, Beldin.


> You know you're full of it.
> You know further that the predominant $10 tourney I play on tilt has a
> field depth of 2000+ players. The variance in that is so high a long term
> winner could expect to be losing after a lot more plays than I've made.


So now you are citing variance, and implying that short-term results are
essentially meaningless. Yet in the previous paragraph you were crowing
about how selectively well you have done. One paragraph you cite figures as
meaningful, the next paragraph you cite them as meaningless. Your nose is
growing, Beldin.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hn7cu8$ds$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>
>> my 2010 Full tilt numbers show a 77% ROI in $10+ tournaments.
>>
>> My full tracking on Stars shows an 87% roi in $10+ tournaments
>>
>
> Why then do you not say what your full tracking on FTP is? You say what
> it is on Stars, yet you ONLY say what it is for the first 2-1/2 months of
> 2010 on FTP. Your nose is growing, Beldin.
No, it isn't.
Scroll down, Peepee.

>
>
>> You know you're full of it.
>> You know further that the predominant $10 tourney I play on tilt has a
>> field depth of 2000+ players. The variance in that is so high a long term
>> winner could expect to be losing after a lot more plays than I've made.
>
>
> So now you are citing variance, and implying that short-term results are
> essentially meaningless. Yet in the previous paragraph you were crowing
> about how selectively well you have done. One paragraph you cite figures
> as meaningful, the next paragraph you cite them as meaningless. Your nose
> is growing, Beldin.

Crowing?
Peepee, wearing that dress has confused you.

The long term numbers in general are meaningful, Peepee.
The fact is, though, that I have played far fewer $10 tourneys on tilt and,
more importantly, most of them are in one event known for deep fields.

It's similar to someone who plays mostly $1000-$5000 tourneys, but always
plays the WSOP main event.
They'll likely have a low roi on $10000 events

>
>


Paul Popinjay

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>
> The long term numbers in general are meaningful, Peepee.
>


Then why did you try to cloud the picture with THIS meaningless sentence?

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Because I started playing more non-midnight madness $10 tournaments.

Why do you pretend to be a girl on stars?

>
>
>


Paul Popinjay

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>

>>
>> "my 2010 Full tilt numbers show a 77% ROI in $10+ tournaments"

> Because I started playing more non-midnight madness $10 tournaments.
>


I'm not asking what you started playing, I'm asking you why you made this
claim, if it is meaningless. You said that right at the same time that you
listed your profit from all years at Poker Stars. Next time put a
disclaimer with it if you're bragging about a statistic that doesn't mean
shit. Either that or do not be surprised if from now on we just figure that
everything you say has no relevance statistically.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Peepee, I listed everything for Stars because i've not played stars from a
bankroll management standpoint of 0.

I've played it before with a larger roll, and today bankrolled by someone
else.

My tournament distribution is different there.

You ever manage to pass a math class?

>
>


otter

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On Mar 9, 9:15 pm, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Will in New Haven" <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in messagenews:c6d631be-3375-4271...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4420459875/
> > not clicking on the link>
>
> Why?  It is a nice photo.  She is an attractive woman, although I think she
> would look better with her hair styled longer than in this photo.  But it
> looks good like this too, but I would be afraid that Beldin might make her
> out to be a dyke because of the hair style.  

She looks more like a Nihilist, dude.

XaQ Morphy

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On Mar 10 2010 12:07 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:

> Xaq, I blame the UIGEA for why I don't have the ability to move money
> between sites.
>
> I cite bankroll management for my maximum buy in. Lots of people blow off
> BM. Lots of people lose, too.
>
> my 2010 Full tilt numbers show a 77% ROI in $10+ tournaments.
>
> My full tracking on Stars shows an 87% roi in $10+ tournaments
>
> You know you're full of it.
> You know further that the predominant $10 tourney I play on tilt has a field
> depth of 2000+ players. The variance in that is so high a long term winner
> could expect to be losing after a lot more plays than I've made.
> Until you make the final table once, you're likely under water.
>

> Yeah, did you think about this before you posted it, or was it just a cheap
> shot?

I'm just explaining what's going on here. You can make up as many excuses
as you want, but if anyone goes to OPR and looks it up, you are an overall
losing player above the $5 level. I don't know how you can deny this. Do
I need to post a screen shot of the OPR page?

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Alim Nassor

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I think she's pretty.

Will in New Haven

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On Mar 9, 11:05 pm, "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Mar 9 2010 7:08 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:

Look, imbecile, Popinjay mentioned forwarding stuff to the FBI, which
means he was talking about criminal prosecution, not a lawsuit. There
is no way that anyone would be prosecuted for modeling a character in
fiction on a real-life person. Being sued is not commn but it happens.
Being sued _succesfully_ is extremely rare and requires the author to
have been extremely open about what he or she is doing.

If you want to sue me for calling you an imbecile, don't call the
FBI.

--
Will in New Haven

I'm not insulting you; I'm describing you

Jason Pawloski

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On Mar 10 2010 8:57 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:

> On Mar 9, 11:05 pm, "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Mar 9 2010 7:08 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:
>
> Look, imbecile, Popinjay mentioned forwarding stuff to the FBI, which
> means he was talking about criminal prosecution, not a lawsuit.

No fucking shit, sherlock.

So in other words I was right:

"No one has ever been able to stop an author of a work of fiction
from portraying anyone he pleases in any way she pleases."

A sentence of total idiocy.

Might want to look up "injunction" in one of your legal texts.

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On Mar 10, 12:28 pm, "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Mar 10 2010 8:57 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
>
> > On Mar 9, 11:05 pm, "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > > On Mar 9 2010 7:08 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:
>
> > Look, imbecile, Popinjay mentioned forwarding stuff to the FBI, which
> > means he was talking about criminal prosecution, not a lawsuit.
>
> No fucking shit, sherlock.
>
> So in other words I was right:

No. You are an imbecile, so you can never be right.


>
> "No one has ever been able to stop an author of a work of fiction
> from portraying anyone he pleases in any way she pleases."
>
> A sentence of total idiocy.
>
> Might want to look up "injunction" in one of your legal texts.

What does that have to do with the FBI?

Paul Popinjay

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>
> I worry YOU?
>


I had two pics of Susan and I didn't want to reveal neither one to Beldin,
but she told me to go ahead and that she was not worried about him like I
am. However, I put the wrong one up on my flicker page, I had them numbered
and I mixed them up. This is the one she wanted me to post for Beldin.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4423384161/


I still think she should keep copies of all posts by Beldin, for the
authorities, just in case.

Susan, if you're reading this, I can search for
his posts at the other newsgroups, like the dr. laura newsgroup and the
hollywood celeb gossip newsgroup, where he has many many posts. Just in
case.


FL Turbo

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Popinjay !!
Stop that, this minute !!

My lust sensors can't handle the overload.

Pepe Papon

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On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:10:26 -0800 (PST), Will in New Haven
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:

>On Mar 9, 2:54 pm, John the Savage <savage0...@gmail.com> wrote:


>> On 3/9/2010 2:58 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 9 2010 12:15 PM, John the Savage wrote:
>>
>> >> While I don't think this would be of interest to law enforcement, it is
>> >> pretty interesting in its own right.  Of course, you don't need anyone's
>> >> permission to use a real person as inspiration for a fictional
>> >> character.
>>
>> > WWWWWRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG
>>
>> > (like usual)
>>

>> And with the chance to move the discussion somewhere interesting, Jason
>> P. did this.
>>
>> Yes, there have been some recent examples (at least one I have heard of)
>> of libel standing up in court from a fictional work.  However I still
>> think this is the exception rather than the rule.  I am not familiar
>> with the specifics of such cases but I guess you are, and therefore you
>> should enlighten us.
>>
>> Regardless, simply using someone you have met or read as inspiration,
>> and borrowing many of their personal traits, without telling anyone
>> about it, is something that is done by authors probably universally.  To
>> prove that such a thing has illegally libeled you would be nearly
>> impossible in a case like the book Beldin has described.  This isn't Law
>> and Order about real life corruption.
>>
>> It is a rather interesting topic but of course you have stopped at the
>> most superficial of pronouncements which is your special way.  Maybe the
>> grown ups will have something more interesting to say about it.
>
>If you don't ADMIT that the character is based on someone real, you
>can't possibly be sued successfully. Of course, going around braying
>about it while you write the book might leave you vulnerable. But the
>book would have to be published for it to matter.

Writing fiction is easy.
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Pepe Papon

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No way that's Susan's real picture.

FL Turbo

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:41:11 -0800, Pepe Papon
<hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:24:46 -0800 (PST), Alim Nassor
><alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 10, 8:45 am, otter <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mar 9, 9:15 pm, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > "Will in New Haven" <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in messagenews:c6d631be-3375-4271...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4420459875/
>>> > > not clicking on the link>
>>>
>>> > Why?  It is a nice photo.  She is an attractive woman, although I think she
>>> > would look better with her hair styled longer than in this photo.  But it
>>> > looks good like this too, but I would be afraid that Beldin might make her
>>> > out to be a dyke because of the hair style.  
>>>
>>> She looks more like a Nihilist, dude.
>>
>>I think she's pretty.
>
>No way that's Susan's real picture.

What??
You don't think that Susan is pretty?

You in a heap of trouble, Boy.

Alim Nassor

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On Mar 11, 12:41 pm, Pepe Papon

<hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:24:46 -0800 (PST), Alim Nassor
>
>
>
>
>
> <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 10, 8:45 am, otter <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 9, 9:15 pm, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >> > "Will in New Haven" <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in messagenews:c6d631be-3375-4271...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4420459875/
> >> > > not clicking on the link>
>
> >> > Why?  It is a nice photo.  She is an attractive woman, although I think she
> >> > would look better with her hair styled longer than in this photo.  But it
> >> > looks good like this too, but I would be afraid that Beldin might make her
> >> > out to be a dyke because of the hair style.  
>
> >> She looks more like a Nihilist, dude.
>
> >I think she's pretty.
>
> No way that's Susan's real picture.
> --
>        ~ Seth Jackson
>
> MySpace URL -http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong
> Songwriting and Music Business Info:http://www.sethjackson.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well I don't know her. So I'm taking Paul at his word. Dangerous, I
know, but what the hell, I was born to take risks.

XaQ Morphy

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On Mar 10 2010 9:59 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> I had two pics of Susan and I didn't want to reveal neither one to Beldin,
> but she told me to go ahead and that she was not worried about him like I
> am. However, I put the wrong one up on my flicker page, I had them numbered
> and I mixed them up. This is the one she wanted me to post for Beldin.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4423384161/
>
>
> I still think she should keep copies of all posts by Beldin, for the
> authorities, just in case.
>
> Susan, if you're reading this, I can search for
> his posts at the other newsgroups, like the dr. laura newsgroup and the
> hollywood celeb gossip newsgroup, where he has many many posts. Just in
> case.

This is the one I have:

www.xaqmorphy.com/pix/Susan.jpg

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On Mar 11, 1:56 pm, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Mar 10 2010 9:59 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
> > I had two pics of Susan and I didn't want to reveal neither one to Beldin,
> > but she told me to go ahead and that she was not worried about him like I
> > am.  However, I put the wrong one up on my flicker page, I had them numbered
> > and I mixed them up.  This is the one she wanted me to post for Beldin.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4423384161/
>
> > I still think she should keep copies of all posts by Beldin, for the
> > authorities, just in case.
>
> > Susan, if you're reading this, I can search for
> > his posts at the other newsgroups, like the dr. laura newsgroup and the
> > hollywood celeb gossip newsgroup, where he has many many posts.  Just in
> > case.
>
> This is the one I have:
>
> www.xaqmorphy.com/pix/Susan.jpg
>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.comhttp://www.donkeymanifesto.com

> ..and no, this doesn't mean I'm back.
>
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404 page not found

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hn74a3$nsh$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> I worry YOU?
>>
>
>
> I had two pics of Susan and I didn't want to reveal neither one to Beldin,
> but she told me to go ahead and that she was not worried about him like I
> am. However, I put the wrong one up on my flicker page, I had them
> numbered
> and I mixed them up. This is the one she wanted me to post for Beldin.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4423384161/
Peepee, I am the most harmless individual on this group.

It seems she doesn't have an opinion on what Queen Sunas looks like.

I'll ask Will, and if he has no opinion, I'll stick with Raven haired and
decide what she looks like by Saturday


>
>
> I still think she should keep copies of all posts by Beldin, for the
> authorities, just in case.
>
> Susan, if you're reading this, I can search for
> his posts at the other newsgroups, like the dr. laura newsgroup and the
> hollywood celeb gossip newsgroup, where he has many many posts. Just in
> case.

You drunk, Peepee?

>


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"XaQ Morphy" <a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mar 10 2010 12:07 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> Xaq, I blame the UIGEA for why I don't have the ability to move money
>> between sites.
>>
>> I cite bankroll management for my maximum buy in. Lots of people blow off
>> BM. Lots of people lose, too.
>>
>> my 2010 Full tilt numbers show a 77% ROI in $10+ tournaments.
>>
>> My full tracking on Stars shows an 87% roi in $10+ tournaments
>>
>> You know you're full of it.
>> You know further that the predominant $10 tourney I play on tilt has a
>> field
>> depth of 2000+ players. The variance in that is so high a long term
>> winner
>> could expect to be losing after a lot more plays than I've made.
>> Until you make the final table once, you're likely under water.
>>
>> Yeah, did you think about this before you posted it, or was it just a
>> cheap
>> shot?
>
> I'm just explaining what's going on here. You can make up as many excuses
> as you want, but if anyone goes to OPR and looks it up, you are an overall
> losing player above the $5 level. I don't know how you can deny this. Do
> I need to post a screen shot of the OPR page?
>
Go look at 2010 stats

Then look at Stars full tracking

Just like I said.

Take MM out of the mix, and I show a profit at the $10 level


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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***
I'm fairly certain it ain't her.

Paul Popinjay

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>

>
> Take MM out of the mix, and I show a profit at the $10 level


Do we need to take screen shots and display them to the entire newsgroup to
verify that you are a pathetic loser? Please stop suggesting otherwise,
Beldin. Just drop it and maybe people will forget about it.


XaQ Morphy

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On Mar 11 2010 7:55 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:

> Go look at 2010 stats
>
> Then look at Stars full tracking
>
> Just like I said.
>
> Take MM out of the mix, and I show a profit at the $10 level

So you're saying that if you take all your losing sessions out you have a
profitable record? That's kind of like JBK saying that if he takes out
all his drunk sessions he's a winning player. Hell, I once won at the
rate of $50k/hour. It was one hand of course, but if you take out all the
others in that session, it was a $50k/hour win rate.

Did you really just type that?

Again, the fact is you are a losing player at anything over $5. You have
no case here, so just admit it.

---
Morphy
xaqm...@donkeymanifesto.com
http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
..and no, this doesn't mean I'm back.

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XaQ Morphy

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Mar 11, 2010, 12:43:36 PM3/11/10
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On Mar 11 2010 10:24 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> Do we need to take screen shots and display them to the entire newsgroup to
> verify that you are a pathetic loser? Please stop suggesting otherwise,
> Beldin. Just drop it and maybe people will forget about it.

Just take out the losing sessions in the screen shots and it will show


he's a winning player.

---


Morphy
xaqm...@donkeymanifesto.com
http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
..and no, this doesn't mean I'm back.

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XaQ Morphy

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On Mar 10 2010 11:42 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:

> > www.xaqmorphy.com/pix/Susan.jpg
> 404 page not found

Works fine for me.

---
Morphy
xaqm...@donkeymanifesto.com


http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
..and no, this doesn't mean I'm back.

--- 

Paul Popinjay

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> I'm fairly certain it ain't her.
>

Are you equally fairly certain I cannot talk her into reporting you to the
FBI?


Alim Nassor

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On Mar 12, 3:15 am, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Mar 10 2010 11:42 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
> > >www.xaqmorphy.com/pix/Susan.jpg
> > 404 page not found
>
> Works fine for me.
>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.comhttp://www.donkeymanifesto.com

> ..and no, this doesn't mean I'm back.
>
> --- 
> RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader :www.recgroups.com

Hmm, still doesn't for me.

Alim Nassor

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Mar 12, 2010, 1:05:55 AM3/12/10
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On Mar 12, 3:15 am, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Mar 10 2010 11:42 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
> > >www.xaqmorphy.com/pix/Susan.jpg
> > 404 page not found
>
> Works fine for me.
>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.comhttp://www.donkeymanifesto.com

> ..and no, this doesn't mean I'm back.
>
> --- 
> RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader :www.recgroups.com

Ugh, got it. Bleah. Thanks a lot.

Paul Popinjay

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"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> No way that's Susan's real picture.


Why would she send me a fake picture of herself, numbnuts? Can you answer
me that? Or are you just spouting off your typical ignorance as usual? Are
you really as clueless as you come off on this newsgroup, Pepe? How many of
us RGPers do you think have played with Susan in one of the California
cardrooms that she has worked at? Do you see anyone besides yourself, and
Beldin, suggesting that the picture is not her? Why such a suspicious mind,
Pepe? Having so little faith in people can fuck with your mind, you know.
You must have had a lot of trust broken in your life, no wonder you got into
Country Music. Seriously, Pepe, you need to trust people a little more.


Pepe Papon

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:59:11 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:hn74a3$nsh$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> I worry YOU?
>>
>
>
>I had two pics of Susan and I didn't want to reveal neither one to Beldin,
>but she told me to go ahead and that she was not worried about him like I
>am. However, I put the wrong one up on my flicker page, I had them numbered
>and I mixed them up. This is the one she wanted me to post for Beldin.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/4423384161/

Is that how she dresses for work at the pizza place?
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Pepe Papon

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:43:43 -0600, FL Turbo <noe...@notime.com>
wrote:

I'm sure Susan is as hot as one of her pizzas.

Clave

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And at least as smart.

Jim


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Peepee, do we need to see you crawling on the floor in a fit of despair?

Well; yes. Yes, we do


>
>


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"XaQ Morphy" <a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mar 11 2010 7:55 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> Go look at 2010 stats
>>
>> Then look at Stars full tracking
>>
>> Just like I said.
>>
>> Take MM out of the mix, and I show a profit at the $10 level
>
> So you're saying that if you take all your losing sessions out you have a
> profitable record? That's kind of like JBK saying that if he takes out
> all his drunk sessions he's a winning player. Hell, I once won at the
> rate of $50k/hour. It was one hand of course, but if you take out all the
> others in that session, it was a $50k/hour win rate.
No, I said take out the highest variance tournament, for which the sample is
far too small.


Xaq, you aren't that stupid.

What the fuck are you really doing?


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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I'm certain they would wonder why she was.
Asking for an opinion as to how a character in a book should look is not
harrassment.

>


XaQ Morphy

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On Mar 12 2010 7:44 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:

> No, I said take out the highest variance tournament, for which the sample is
> far too small.
>
>
> Xaq, you aren't that stupid.
>
> What the fuck are you really doing?

Ok, so the tourney you want to take out is a $11, right? On OPR it lists
you as having a negative ROI in the $5-$10 range, with the average buyin
at $6.60 or something like that (sorry, don't have OPR here at work).

I'll tell you what. Tonight when I get home I'll grab a screen shot of
your stats, clearly showing you are a losing player above the $5 level,
and post it. RGP can then decide.

---
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xaqm...@donkeymanifesto.com
http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
..and no, this doesn't mean I'm back.

________________________________________________________________________�

Pepe Papon

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Mar 13, 2010, 12:50:40 AM3/13/10
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:06:25 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:52tgp5h4o2blduqpe...@4ax.com...
>
>>
>> No way that's Susan's real picture.
>
>
>Why would she send me a fake picture of herself, numbnuts? Can you answer
>me that?

Of course I can't. Then again, there's not a whole lot in the way of
evidence that you actually received that picture from Susan.

>Or are you just spouting off your typical ignorance as usual? Are
>you really as clueless as you come off on this newsgroup, Pepe?

I'm certainly nowhere near as clueless as you portray me as coming off
in this newsgroup.

>How many of
>us RGPers do you think have played with Susan in one of the California
>cardrooms that she has worked at?

Do I get a hint?

>Do you see anyone besides yourself, and
>Beldin, suggesting that the picture is not her?

No. As a matter of fact, I haven't even seen Beldin suggest it, as
he's been in my killfile since the days of the prop bet.

> Why such a suspicious mind,
>Pepe? Having so little faith in people can fuck with your mind, you know.

One question: Have you, Paul Popinjay, ever posted anything to RGP
that wasn't pure, honest-to-God, 100% truth?

>You must have had a lot of trust broken in your life, no wonder you got into
>Country Music.

I'm afraid that's one of those non sequitur thingies. I'm sure you're
familiar with that term, even if it's too complicated for guys like
Alim.

> Seriously, Pepe, you need to trust people a little more.

I trust you completely, Paul. I trust that before long, and possibly
even in your very next post, you'll find a reason to call me a
disparaging name.

susan

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"Pepe Papon"

> Of course I can't. Then again, there's not a whole lot in the way of
> evidence that you actually received that picture from Susan.

Need more evidence?


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"XaQ Morphy" <a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mar 12 2010 7:44 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> No, I said take out the highest variance tournament, for which the sample
>> is
>> far too small.
>>
>>
>> Xaq, you aren't that stupid.
>>
>> What the fuck are you really doing?
>
> Ok, so the tourney you want to take out is a $11, right? On OPR it lists
> you as having a negative ROI in the $5-$10 range, with the average buyin
> at $6.60 or something like that (sorry, don't have OPR here at work).
>
> I'll tell you what. Tonight when I get home I'll grab a screen shot of
> your stats, clearly showing you are a losing player above the $5 level,
> and post it. RGP can then decide.
The numbers are right here, Xaq :

Start with this one :

http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/The_Sorcerer/poker/statistics/7BA1A2081C4542C5BDE497A32B9C1849.html?t=9

Then look at this one

http://officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/The_Sorcerer/poker/statistics/7BF11A7A8F884483964A4C8896952326.html?t=9

When you go to full tracking, don't forget to add in the $434 cash from 2006
that's dropped off OPR now, for a $10+1


When you're done, do a variance spread on a tournament with 2500+ average
players.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"susan" <hotd...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Well, I do.

There's someone capable of faking anyone. Someone cloned me for a post.


However, the important question wasn't "what do you look like", it was "what
would you like the character you sort of inspired to look like".

If that's you, and that's what you want, fine.


Pepe Papon

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:51:52 -0600, "susan" <hotd...@charter.net>
wrote:

Is this a confirmation that the picture is you? Both of them?

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:51:52 -0600, "susan" <hotd...@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pepe Papon"
>>
>>> Of course I can't. Then again, there's not a whole lot in the way of
>>> evidence that you actually received that picture from Susan.
>>
>>Need more evidence?
>
> Is this a confirmation that the picture is you? Both of them?

Seth should confirm the poster is Susan first


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