Ending of Rounders
esch...@aol.com
loaned to him by his professor, he doubles that against teddy kgb,
then doubles it again to make 40000, how does he have 30000 after
paying back the 15 he owes, repaying the professor 10, and 6 to the
chesterfield.. that makes 9 grand for himself, i don't get it.
Thanks - please respond to my e-mail..
Also another thing i noticed about the movie is that mike suddenly got
a car to drive to the taj and binghamton.. how did that happen???
ccsa...@my-deja.com
As far as the money goes, I'm not sure but I think he says "I'm right
back where I started", meaning that he has the 15 grand he had at the
beginning of the movie. He lost 30 or so grand to KGB in the nines full
vs. aces full but he had won 15 of that that night. I'm not sure, but
I'm certain that it's unimportant.
chris
In article <0752es8trj33l7j97...@4ax.com>,
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Before you buy.
Jim Mogal
freeze out. They double the blinds and he tells KGB "feel free to
reload"
When it is over Mike says in one of those internal monologues that
he "turned his 10K into 60K" so he paid off the professor,the debt to
KGB and the Chesterfield and had 30K left.
John H
>Can someone please explain to me the ending of rounders mike has 10000
>loaned to him by his professor, he doubles that against teddy kgb,
>then doubles it again to make 40000, how does he have 30000 after
>paying back the 15 he owes, repaying the professor 10, and 6 to the
>chesterfield.. that makes 9 grand for himself, i don't get it.
>
>Thanks - please respond to my e-mail..
>
>Also another thing i noticed about the movie is that mike suddenly got
>a car to drive to the taj and binghamton.. how did that happen???
>
>
One -- the final game in Rounders is not shown in "real time". Mike
tells Teddy to feel free to reload at any time, so we have to assume
that Teddy, rebought in one time that we don't see.
Two. As I understand it, there are many companies that will rent a
person an automobile. This is a new kind of company and perhaps they
don't have them where you are.
John Harkness
Timmer
end.
timmer heres the search info : (title) Rounders (author) Kevin
Canty find it@amazon
pokerchip5
<timme...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>read the book and all will be revealed. even what happened to
mike in the
>end.
I bought the book and read the "post leaving NYC" ending. What a
lame three pages. The author should have ended the book where
the movie ended.
Just my 2c.
Tom B.
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roun...@my-deja.com
professor 15 to Grma 7 to the chesterfield and the beautiful Petra,
leaving him with 3 stacks of high society. Isn't that where he
started. Why didn't he just take it to Vegas and save all the ass
kicking he got???
And I assume worm hot wired the cars or they rented them.
In article <0752es8trj33l7j97...@4ax.com>,
esch...@aol.com wrote:
> Can someone please explain to me the ending of rounders mike has 10000
> loaned to him by his professor, he doubles that against teddy kgb,
> then doubles it again to make 40000, how does he have 30000 after
> paying back the 15 he owes, repaying the professor 10, and 6 to the
> chesterfield.. that makes 9 grand for himself, i don't get it.
>
> Thanks - please respond to my e-mail..
>
> Also another thing i noticed about the movie is that mike suddenly got
> a car to drive to the taj and binghamton.. how did that happen???
>
>
Terrence Chan
the movie screwed that part up. 3 RACKS of high society would
be $30000, right?
Crdog50
after Mike doubles through KGB the first time and before we watch the second
time, Mike says that you can rebuy at anytime. This implies that KGB must have
lost more than twice and rebuying enough for Mike to finish with the 30,000 he
initiallly started with.
To answer your second question the car was Mikes' girlfriends car, when him and
Worm go the Taj.
John H
Nope. It's a regular car -- Mike's girlfriend has some kind of SUV --
a Jeep or something.
John Harkness
NevadaJ
Isn't that 30,000?
On Sat, 01 Apr 2000 11:10:51 GMT, ccsa...@my-deja.com wrote:
>I'm pretty sure that you can rent cars in NYC.
>
>As far as the money goes, I'm not sure but I think he says "I'm right
>back where I started", meaning that he has the 15 grand he had at the
>beginning of the movie. He lost 30 or so grand to KGB in the nines full
>vs. aces full but he had won 15 of that that night. I'm not sure, but
>I'm certain that it's unimportant.
>
>chris
>
>
>
>
Jim Mogal
jg...@netcom.ca (John H) wrote:
> >To answer your second question the car was Mikes' girlfriends car,
when him and
> >Worm go the Taj.
>
> Nope. It's a regular car -- Mike's girlfriend has some kind of SUV --
> a Jeep or something.
>
> John Harkness
>
him....he'd hardly still have access to her car!!
Timmer
day
timmer
PocketTens
>loaned to him by his professor, he doubles that against teddy kgb,
>then doubles it again to make 40000, how does he have 30000 after
>paying back the 15 he owes, repaying the professor 10, and 6 to the
>chesterfield.. that makes 9 grand for himself, i don't get it.
>
>Thanks - please respond to my e-mail..
>
>Also another thing i noticed about the movie is that mike suddenly got
>a car to drive to the taj and binghamton.. how did that happen???
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Mike speaking...."I turned my 10 grand into just over 60 overnight....after
paying back the 15K on Worm, 10K to the professor and 6K to the Chesterfield,
that leaves me where I started..3 stacks of high society"...31K subtracted from
"just over 60K" leaves "about 30K"
Russell
+ >Can someone please explain to me the ending of rounders mike has 10000
+ >loaned to him by his professor, he doubles that against teddy kgb,
+ >then doubles it again to make 40000, how does he have 30000 after
+ >paying back the 15 he owes, repaying the professor 10, and 6 to the
+ >chesterfield.. that makes 9 grand for himself, i don't get it.
+ >
+ Mike speaking...."I turned my 10 grand into just over 60 overnight....after
+ paying back the 15K on Worm, 10K to the professor and 6K to the Chesterfield,
+ that leaves me where I started..3 stacks of high society"...31K subtracted from
+ "just over 60K" leaves "about 30K"
Yes, given that he turned the 10 into 60, that's obvious. I think the
point is, how did he make 60 purely by doubling his money? You only see
him go head to head with teddy 10k each and win. Thus he now has 20k,
teddy goads him into letting it ride, and he wins another 20k. How did
he get the 60k ?
John H
Here we go again. When he sits back down after winning Teddy's first
10K, he says "Feel free to reload at any time." Obviously, Teddy did.
Take a look at how many chips are on the table during the game. The
director uses dissolves in this sequence, which almost invariably
indicate the passage of time.
John Harkness
Mike Caro
Yes, John, but if you look closely, there are only $64,450 in chips on
the whole table. How do you explain that?
Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro
John H
Continuity error.
John Harkness
Timmer
Russell wrote:
> On 03 Apr 2000 03:39:27 GMT, PocketTens <pocke...@aol.com> wrote:
> + >Can someone please explain to me the ending of rounders mike has 10000
> + >loaned to him by his professor, he doubles that against teddy kgb,
> + >then doubles it again to make 40000, how does he have 30000 after
> + >paying back the 15 he owes, repaying the professor 10, and 6 to the
> + >chesterfield.. that makes 9 grand for himself, i don't get it.
> + >
> + Mike speaking...."I turned my 10 grand into just over 60 overnight....after
> + paying back the 15K on Worm, 10K to the professor and 6K to the Chesterfield,
> + that leaves me where I started..3 stacks of high society"...31K subtracted from
> + "just over 60K" leaves "about 30K"
>
> Yes, given that he turned the 10 into 60, that's obvious. I think the
> point is, how did he make 60 purely by doubling his money? You only see
> him go head to head with teddy 10k each and win. Thus he now has 20k,
> teddy goads him into letting it ride, and he wins another 20k. How did
> he get the 60k ?
simple . kenny goes in for another twenty. mike invites him to " reload at any time"
which he does later in the game he turns around and grabs another 2 racks.
Gary Carson
>On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 03:50:09 GMT, Mike Caro <ca...@caro.com> wrote
>>Yes, John, but if you look closely, there are only $64,450 in chips on
>>the whole table. How do you explain that?
After buying smokes ($5 with waitress toke) and toking the dealer $4,430, he
had $60,015, and then used $15 to get the rental car out of the parking
garage. He didn't return or pay for the rental, since Worm had used a
stolen credit card to rent it.
I ran into Mike in Las Vegas last week, he's driving a cab there now and
explained it all to me.
Gary Carson
h2oguy
only play in 3 games)
Gary Carson wrote in message <8cd26c$iqu$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
Eric
rebought. As for the car, it was his girlfriend's.
Eric
esch...@aol.com wrote:
> Can someone please explain to me the ending of rounders mike has 10000
> loaned to him by his professor, he doubles that against teddy kgb,
> then doubles it again to make 40000, how does he have 30000 after
> paying back the 15 he owes, repaying the professor 10, and 6 to the
> chesterfield.. that makes 9 grand for himself, i don't get it.
>
imvall...@my-deja.com
John H
>as i recall... the money wasn't specified. But it's possible that KGB
>rebought. As for the car, it was his girlfriend's.
>Eric
>
You have a really bad memory. the money is listed very specifically.
And his girlfriend's car's a jeep, which we see when he picks up Worm.
When they drive to AC, he no longer has access to that car.
John Harkness
Pugum
making something called a MOVIE and not a documentary !!!
Jim Jamison, Atlanta, GA
Jacob Johannsen
On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:00:41 -0700, Eric <Flash...@yahoo.com> wrote:>as i recall... the money wasn't specified. But it's possible that KGB
>rebought. As for the car, it was his girlfriend's.
>Eric
>
You have a really bad memory. the money is listed very specifically.
After leaving KGB's place, Mike says:
"Turned my 10 grand into just over 60. Paid 15 to Grama, 6 went back to the Chesterfield, and after paying the professor, I'm back where I started; with three stacks of high society"
Just saw it for the 100th time last night. Call me crazy.
-- /Jacob Johannsen aka CNN -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you flip a coin a million times, you're either crazy or a grad student. --Yoss, rec.gambling.poker --------------------------------------------------------------------------
scottj
Worked through your numbers and I am basing my discussion on the
fact that you are using a 32-card deck, choosing 5 cards to
compose the hand (though 7 cards can be played), making the
number of combinations C(32,5) = 201,376.
As for the flush/four-of-a-kind issue, a basic view :
Given 8 cards per suit and that you would need 5 of them to form
a flush, you have C(8,5) = 224 flushes. From that, you have an
additional SUBSET which is the 16 straight flushes (four from
each of the four suits). Your simulation splits these cases.
On the four-of-a-kind front, there are 28 unique quads for each
rank which makes for 224 total quads.
Therefore, the probability of ANY flush equals the probability of
ANY four of a kind.
The other problem in trying to draw conclusions is that you have
multiply counted some hands rather than the highest rank
attainable. For example, 8-8-8-7-7 has likely counted as one
pair, two pair, three of a kind, and full house -- this became
obvious when I look at your pair/no-pair scenario where the space
of 201,376 possible hands was neatly partitioned into the
pair/no-pair boolean states.
On the pair/no-pair question, this is similar to the classic
probability problem : the Birthday Problem. How many people do
you need in a room until you statistically have a 50% chance of
any two people have a matching birthday ? The answer is
substantially less than 365/2 which is most people's guess.
(the answer is in the 30s, but I forget the actual number.)
Thanks ... Scott
scottj
Sorry, my post has a typo wherein it should read 4*C(8,5) = 224
flushes. Sorry for the lack of rigor.
Dr Eric Sclavos
(short deck), i.e with the 2's,3's, 4's, 5's and 6's removed.
The number one game played here is Manila. You recieve two cards in the hole
but must you both. The first community card is shown and then the first
round of betting occurs. Cards are turned one at a time. There are 5 rounds
of betting with double betting on the last round. ( There is no betting
bsfore the 1st card is seen and there is only one blind.)Hands are ranked as
in holdem but a flush beats a full).
Anyway I sat down tonight and worked out the odds of each possible hand and
two my suprisement I worked out it is more difficult to get a flush than a
four of a kind.Even more suprising was that NO PAIR BEAT A PAIR. Where am I
going wrong?
POSSIBLE MANILA HANDS (7'S UP)
STRAIGHT FLUSHES 16
FLUSHES 208
FOUR OF A KIND 224
FULL HOUSES 1344
STRAIGHTS 4080
TRIPLETS 10752
TWO PAIRS 25088
NO PAIRS 95648
ONE PAIR 105728
TOTAL 201376
Cheers
Eric
Dr Eric Sclavos
> The other problem in trying to draw conclusions is that you have
> multiply counted some hands rather than the highest rank
> attainable. For example, 8-8-8-7-7 has likely counted as one
> pair, two pair, three of a kind, and full house -- this became
> obvious when I look at your pair/no-pair scenario where the space
> of 201,376 possible hands was neatly partitioned into the
> pair/no-pair boolean states.
>
>
Scott,
Thanks for checking my figures.
I didn't make the mistake as you sugested above. I only counted 8-8-8-7-7 as
a full house only.
Thanks again for your help.
Eric