Got a letter from the WPT
Borgata Rounder
As I take stock of all the things we have to be thankful for in the
holiday season, I find it appropriate and necessary to share some thoughts
with the poker community at large. Firmly believing that people will, in
the end, be judged by their actions, I have long made it a policy at the
World Poker Tour to let our actions speak for themselves. The persistence
of widely disseminated misinformation regarding a number of things has
prompted me to break with that tradition today.
I want to first state that the relationship between the WPT and our
players is one of paramount importance to us. Neither the WPT nor the
players would be enjoying the extraordinary success we have seen over the
last three years without each other. It is essential that we all respect
and appreciate what the players, the WPT casinos and the WPT staff have
brought to the table in creating this new world of poker. We truly value
the relationship we continue to have with our players and see it as a
two-way street. We encourage players to bring their concerns directly to
us in the effort to ensure a healthy, positive and fruitful relationship
and we will continue to attempt to address those issues as quickly as
possible. To help facilitate communication, we are launching a For Players
Only portion of our website early next year, designed to foster
information exchange and dialogue directly with WPT players. Players
should make sure we have current email information so we can send them a
Players Only password.
That being said, I would like to focus on the issues that have caused
unnecessary concern in order to help put them in perspective.
FILMING RELEASES:
The latest hot button issue seems to be the filming release we require
players to sign before they play in World Poker Tour events. The release
we utilize is a standard filming release that all production companies
must have signed by everyone they film or the television broadcaster will
refuse to air our material. Filming releases are always broadly drafted to
protect against frivolous law suits. The language is clear. The production
company can use all the footage it shoots and the persons image in all
media.
But, the story does not end there. The World Poker Tour is a business. We
value our relationship with WPT players and have always acted with great
care and deference when using player images. The few players now trying to
stir up controversy around player releases are lost in hypotheticals not
reality.
A perfect example occurred recently. Without my approval, a banner ad
featuring three prominent players was used by a WPT affiliate to drive
people to our online poker site. Within an hour of hearing about the ad, I
had it removed not because we were legally obligated to, but because the
players asked us to and we take their concerns seriously.
We have always acted this way as a matter of course. But, I am happy to go
on record today to promise the poker community that we will always listen
to a player who feels that he or she is uncomfortable with how we use
their image. If we feel we can or should, we will modify or eliminate that
use. And, if not, we will explain, to the best of our ability, why not.
What I cannot do is subject WPTE to endless lawsuits by severely
restricting the rights we obtain in our filming release. No credible
production company could or would do so. And, it is in the interest of all
poker players for the WPT to be focusing its efforts and resources on
growing poker into one of the largest sports in the world rather than
defending an endless line of frivolous lawsuits.
I challenge the poker community to be very cautious about accepting
misinformation without looking further. I am convinced that, if people
take the time to investigate how the World Poker Tour has acted, they will
agree that we should be commended as a company for the way we have handled
this issue and the way we listen and respond to players in general.
One more thing. The few players trying to make this a wedge issue want
people to believe that players may lose endorsement opportunities because
of signing WPT or ESPN film releases. Once again, this is not a real
concern, but a remote hypothetical. You need to ask if any player has lost
an endorsement deal because of WPT, ESPN, FOX, etc. filming releases. The
answer is there are none. Players should always let potential sponsors
know that they have signed the industry-standard, filming release that
makes it possible for them to be on television and therefore be of value
to the sponsor. Sponsors and manufacturers deal with these circumstances
all the time on every television show from Survivor to Seinfeld. If you
are lucky enough to have your television poker exposure make you a star
worthy of endorsement contracts, the release will not impede that process.
And, finally, players who have played in any WPT events over the last
three and a half years have already signed a release. That means that
signing a release at the next hundred or a thousand WPT tournaments will
have no effect of committing them any more than they are already
committed.
THE WORLD POKER TOUR HAS YET TO TURN A PROFIT:
Another rampant misunderstanding in the poker community is that the World
Poker Tour or WPT Enterprises (WPTE) is making massive profits and is
somehow the evil empire that refuses to spread the wealth. Nothing could
be further from the truth. WPTE has been in business for four years and
has yet to turn a profit. We continue to invest in what we believe will be
the bright future of poker and the league that launched poker as a sport.
And we, more than any institution in the business, have taken and continue
to take steps to grow the poker world in general to benefit players and
the broader community. Just a few examples:
In our second season, we launched and funded the first player management
company in history, not because we thought it would make us money, but
because we wanted to foster relationships and build opportunities for
players. We passed that organization on to Brian Balsbaugh who has managed
to make meaningful sponsorship deals a reality for an ever-growing group
of players.
In Season III, we fulfilled the dream of many people in the poker
community by launching and funding the first professional poker league in
the history of the sport, giving $2.5 million dollars away prior to
securing a broadcast deal. As many of you know, we have yet to receive any
return of that investment.
In 2004 we invited all poker players and the general public to become
investors in the WPT at a very early stage to give everyone an opportunity
to benefit from our future growth.
In Season IV, the WPT lobbied the Travel Channel on behalf of players and
secured a change in the logo policy to allow pre-approved logos at WPT
final tables.
In a broader sense, it is the World Poker Tour, its staff and casino
partners that have made this poker boom possible. Every player that
commentates on a rival TV show, every player that wins a million dollar
first prize, every player that participates in or endorses an online poker
room, every player that sits down in a packed poker room full of new
players benefits from the World Poker Tour. Some people seem to forget
that just three years ago you had to wait a year to get a shot at a
million dollar first prize tournament. Poker rooms were being shut down
across the country and industry leaders were holding conferences seeking
ways to save a dying business. People forget that the biggest five and ten
thousand dollar buy-in events had thirty to sixty people in them not the
six to nine hundred players you see today.
A LAND OF OPPORTUNITY
A tremendous land of opportunity has been created and opened to the poker
community by the World Poker Tour and the other poker shows it has
spawned. Poker rooms across the country are making money as they never
imagined they could or would. Online poker has exploded from a two hundred
million dollar market to a three billion dollar market by associating with
the WPT and other television shows. And, whereas no one wanted to put
regularly scheduled poker on television in the U.S. in 2001/2002, at least
fifteen shows are currently airing in the U.S. copying the WPT format.
There are a lot of people making money in the poker market today. Most of
those opportunities did not exist prior to the World Poker Tour. The three
founders of Party Gaming cashed out over a billion dollars from their
business this year. Estimates are that Full Tilt Poker, owned and launched
by A-list poker players, is making hundreds of thousands of dollars a day,
millions of dollars a month. Poker players are being paid for appearances,
they are endorsing products and poker sites and they are even beginning to
crack the difficult layers of legitimate corporate sponsorship. Free-roll
television shows totaling millions of dollars in prize money are being
announced monthly and new poker interest shows are being produced as well.
THE WORLD POKER TOUR
The World Poker Tour is excited by all of this and no one is happier than
Lyle Berman or me when players do well and manage to cash in on the poker
boom. But, with all the money being made, the poker community should be
aware that the guy who put up millions of dollars to change the poker
world Mr. Lyle Berman has, to date, not made a cent. He has never drawn a
salary and, as of today, he and Lakes Entertainment have not sold one
share of World Poker Tour stock. Their investment has appreciated, but I
can not imagine that poker players or the poker community begrudge him
that any more than they would expect Party Gamings investors or the Full
Tilt players to redistribute their profits.
For my own part, all my compensation is a matter of public record. And, to
quote the wife of one of our WPT Champions, I've seen what you made to
launch this business and no poker player would have done it for that. I
wouldn't have done it. As to my stock in the company, I have sold less
than twenty percent of my ownership and continue to believe and invest in
the future growth of poker and the World Poker Tour.
WE ARE AN OPEN BOOK, PLEASE COME READ US
As a public company, all of this information is easily assessable on any
search engine: YAHOO! Finance, CNN Business, Motley Fool, MSNBC, etc. I
encourage members of the poker community to look at our company
information. Under the watchful eye of the Securities and Exchange
Commission, we report how much money the company makes, how much it
spends, how much executives are paid and even how much stock, if any,
those executives sell. Lyle can attest to the fact that we have yet to
turn a profit. He made a $10,000 bet with another poker player when the
World Poker Tour began that the company would turn a profit sometime in
the first five years. To date, he has not been able to collect on that bet.
THE WPT AND THE POKER COMMUNITY
I guess I would like to ask the poker community in general and the poker
player community in particular to help us keep focused on the task at hand
which is to grow poker into the largest global sports phenomenon in
history. I ask that you judge us by what we do and look beyond rumor. Seek
the truth; don't just accept misinformation as gospel. While individual
players may have their own motivation for spreading misinformation about
the WPT or anyone else in our community, keep an open mind and look for
the reality. Everyone has his/her own agenda and we are no exception to
that rule. But, our incentives tend to align with the growth of poker as a
sport that will continue to bring benefit to everyone in the community.
I appreciate your taking time to digest these thoughts. Together we have
managed to change the face of poker forever. Together we have managed to
dispel the perception that poker could never be a sport. We look forward
to working together in 2006 to find new ways that we can grow the poker
world together. And, on behalf of Lyle, Robyn and everyone at the World
Poker Tour, we wish a safe and joyous holiday season to you and yours. We
truly feel blessed to be a part of this exciting time in poker.
Regards,
Steve
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Alway...@aol.com
Borgata Rounder wrote:
A lot of snipping on the letter by Steven Lipscomb:
>. The persistence
> of widely disseminated misinformation regarding a number of things has
> prompted me to break with that tradition today.
And imo create a bit of misinformation of his own
>
>. We encourage players to bring their concerns directly to
> us in the effort to ensure a healthy, positive and fruitful relationship
> and we will continue to attempt to address those issues as quickly as
> possible.
What it should have said, is if you are a well known name, otherwise we
will continue to ignore any concerns addressed to us. As we ignore
other inappropriate things like a well known player refusing to
disclose his horse and rider relationship with another player at the
final table, even though this player was begged by other players to do
so (some of them with their name in the credits that roll at the end of
each show)
.
>
> FILMING RELEASES:
>
> The latest hot button issue seems to be the filming release we require
> players to sign before they play in World Poker Tour events. The release
> we utilize is a standard filming release that all production companies
> must have signed by everyone they film or the television broadcaster will
> refuse to air our material. Filming releases are always broadly drafted to
> protect against frivolous law suits. The language is clear. The production
> company can use all the footage it shoots and the persons image in all
> media.
>From what I understand what they are requiring to be signed is not
standard.
> But, the story does not end there. The World Poker Tour is a business. We
> value our relationship with WPT players and have always acted with great
> care and deference when using player images. The few players now trying to
> stir up controversy around player releases are lost in hypotheticals not
> reality.
Right just like in bygone years of actors and musicians who didn't
protect themselves and the studios gone rich at the expense of the
artist. And, what's with the name calling of "trying to stir up" I
suspect they think of it as enlightenment.
>
> A perfect example occurred recently. Without my approval, a banner ad
> featuring three prominent players was used by a WPT affiliate to drive
> people to our online poker site. Within an hour of hearing about the ad, I
> had it removed not because we were legally obligated to, but because the
> players asked us to and we take their concerns seriously.
And what happens when the WPT is sold or in a hostile take over, or the
principals are killed in a plane crash. Players shouldn't have to
dependent on the ethics or understanding of those currently in control.
It should be black and white, not subjective to the graces of the
powers that be at the moment
>
> We have always acted this way as a matter of course. But, I am happy to go
> on record today to promise the poker community that we will always listen
> to a player who feels that he or she is uncomfortable with how we use
> their image. If we feel we can or should, we will modify or eliminate that
> use. And, if not, we will explain, to the best of our ability, why not.
> What I cannot do is subject WPTE to endless lawsuits by severely
> restricting the rights we obtain in our filming release. No credible
> production company could or would do so. And, it is in the interest of all
> poker players for the WPT to be focusing its efforts and resources on
> growing poker into one of the largest sports in the world rather than
> defending an endless line of frivolous lawsuits.
I don't buy this. A standard clause would protect you against
lawsuits, what seems to be required is something that gives the WPTE
the ability to sell things in the future without compensation which
shouldn't be theirs to sell.
>
> I challenge the poker community to be very cautious about accepting
> misinformation without looking further.
And I would caution them to read this without blinders
>
> And, finally, players who have played in any WPT events over the last
> three and a half years have already signed a release. That means that
> signing a release at the next hundred or a thousand WPT tournaments will
> have no effect of committing them any more than they are already
> committed.
Then why require them to sign this new more inclusive release? Why was
it changed?
>
> THE WORLD POKER TOUR HAS YET TO TURN A PROFIT:
>
> Another rampant misunderstanding in the poker community is that the World
> Poker Tour or WPT Enterprises (WPTE) is making massive profits and is
> somehow the evil empire that refuses to spread the wealth. Nothing could
> be further from the truth. WPTE has been in business for four years and
> has yet to turn a profit.
And why is that? By design, mismanagement or something else? (yes I
know I snipped the part about where you say it is because of
reinvestments)
> In Season III, we fulfilled the dream of many people in the poker
> community by launching and funding the first professional poker league in
> the history of the sport, giving $2.5 million dollars away prior to
> securing a broadcast deal. As many of you know, we have yet to receive any
> return of that investment.
So bad business decisions are to be applauded just because players
dreams were fulfilled?
> In Season IV, the WPT lobbied the Travel Channel on behalf of players and
> secured a change in the logo policy to allow pre-approved logos at WPT
> final tables.
Is this all the information or does a bit of misinformation abound
here? Can anyone wear sponorship, or does it have to an approved
sponsor, one that has paid a fee to the WPT allowing the wearing of the
logo?
> A LAND OF OPPORTUNITY
>
> A tremendous land of opportunity has been created and opened to the poker
> community by the World Poker Tour and the other poker shows it has
> spawned. Poker rooms across the country are making money as they never
> imagined they could or would. Online poker has exploded from a two hundred
> million dollar market to a three billion dollar market by associating with
> the WPT and other television shows.
Where is the data to support this notion, that it was a direct result
of the WPT? Where is the information of how the WPTE and Travel Channel
benefited financially with the commericals these online sites paid for
that helped created this three billion dollar market?
> THE WORLD POKER TOUR
>
> The World Poker Tour is excited by all of this and no one is happier than
> Lyle Berman or me when players do well and manage to cash in on the poker
> boom. But, with all the money being made, the poker community should be
> aware that the guy who put up millions of dollars to change the poker
> world Mr. Lyle Berman has, to date, not made a cent.
>He has never drawn a
> salary and, as of today, he and Lakes Entertainment have not sold one
> share of World Poker Tour stock. Their investment has appreciated, but I
> can not imagine that poker players or the poker community begrudge him
> that any more than they would expect Party Gamings investors or the Full
> Tilt players to redistribute their profits.
What about direct relatives and any shares they may have sold or
salaries they may have taken? What about benefits such as paid travel,
hotel rooms, meals? He has received nothing not even perks as he
travels the tour to play in various events?
>
. As to my stock in the company, I have sold less
> than twenty percent of my ownership and continue to believe and invest in
> the future growth of poker and the World Poker Tour.
This it the part where I really question who is slinging
misinformation. The stock you bought or was issued was at a fraction
of a penny on the dollar and the profit already realized is in the
millions, but the part that has me shaking my head is the 20%. Is that
20% number 20% of all the stock and options that you own, or 20% of the
portion that is currently unrestricted (for those not familiar with
stock trading certain principals can be issued stock but it is
restricted in that it can't be sold for a certain period of time)
>
He made a $10,000 bet with another poker player when the
> World Poker Tour began that the company would turn a profit sometime in
> the first five years. To date, he has not been able to collect on that bet.
$10,000 is a sneeze to Mr. Berman, this bet means very little and I
suspect it is within his hands whether profits are realized, reinvested
or overspent on production costs.
>
I ask that you judge us by what we do and look beyond rumor.
I have and am not impressed with how controling the WPT is, how they
feel they can dictate no deals at the final table when it is the
players and players alone that have paid the entry fees. And I
partcially "love" how the WPT makes it seems like the 25K seat in the
championship event is paid for by the WPT and not the players.
>Seek the truth; don't just accept misinformation as gospel.
We agree. But, spread it either. Much of what was written in this
letter is "spin"
>While individual
> players may have their own motivation
as does the WPT.
> for spreading misinformation about
> the WPT or anyone else in our community, keep an open mind and look for
> the reality. Everyone has his/her own agenda and we are no exception to
> that rule.
This letter didn't say much and spoke volumes of what it didn't say.
Joan
Irish Mike
professional player has benefited from it, either directly or indirectly.
In fact, my only complaint in terms of "player rights" is that the WPT
blocks out all names and logos on player shirts, hats etc. IMHO, as long as
the logo or name isn't obscene or doesn't make some political or religious
statement, a poker player should be able to wear what he or she wants. WPT
advertisers are paying for commercial time, not the right to control player
wardrobes.
I also believe the WPT would be insane if they did not try to protect
themselves from frivolous lawsuits. Sad fact is that greedy people, and
their blood sucking parasite lawyers, will file a lawsuit against any one or
any thing for any reason - if the target has money.
The fact that some poker players are now trying to bash the WPT, in spite of
the good it has done for the poker industry, is just par for the course. As
Mark Twain once said, "It you help a starving dog and make him prosperous,
he will not bite you. And that is the principle difference between dogs and
men."
Irish Mike
<Alway...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Trent Baker
wrote:
>The WPT has done a lot to help promote and expand poker and every
>professional player has benefited from it, either directly or indirectly.
I haven't benefited directly or indirectly. There are a few more
smaller games, but the middle to high limit games haven't changed much
at all. The rich get richer, while the grunt in the trenches just
keeps grinding away.
Gary Carson
On Dec 23 2005 10:10 AM, Alway...@aol.com wrote:
>
> This letter didn't say much and spoke volumes of what it didn't say.
>
> Joan
I agree Joan. I didn't really have much of an opinion about WPT other than I
slight doubt about their clean hands related to the Doyle scam But, after
reading this letter they sound like a whole gang of scammers. The letter was
nothing but misdirection and they didn't even do it well.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
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