Analysis of 100,000+ hands dealt at PokerStars

[Adam Conner-Sax]

2 hi <2.hi....@noemail.com> wrote in message news:<2.hi....@noemail.com>...
> I am not a conspiracy moron (I don't believe the sites are rigged) and I
> understand that 100,000+ is a very, very good sample size, but aren't
> the actuals and expected probabilities freakishly close??? Does anyone
> else feel the same way???

For an event that either happens with probability p or doesn't with
probability 1-p and 120k hands you expect to observe

p +/- p/350

The posted probabilities seem more or less reasonably distributed for
that many hands.

Adam

[Calahan MacCool]

Incorrect.

First off, everything will be normalized, meaning if the hand didn't
go to the river, then of course that doesn't count as a river sample.
Then again, if what you say is true, the curve plot of each numerical
value of card would be somewhat skewed, and that can be normalized
too. Just two 100,000 hand samples oughtta do it.

But com'on down to Ocean's 11 and lay me 3.5 - 1 on an A, K or Q
coming on the river. If we don't get to the river we each put up the
same amount again.

"Michael Maurer" <mjma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<E3hhb.439925$2x.1...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>...
> "Calahan MacCool" <cal...@thefianna.org> wrote in message
> news:231db32c.0310...@posting.google.com...
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>
> This analysis suggested a proposition bet you could make with another
> player. Each of you picks three ranks. If more cards of your ranks
> appear on the board than of his, you win; if more of his, he wins; if a
> tie, no action. A good choice for you is ten/eight/five. A bad choice
> is ace/king/queen.

[Ron]

These stats mean nothing.

The things people are complaining about are the flops and rivers. The
starting cards could be normal as hell. But I guarantee if you examine
the flops and amount of hands won on the river, you will see that
pokerstars is a fradulent site that uses shady tactics.

Stats shown may be true but having nothing the fuck to do with what
anyone is negatively saying about pokerstars.

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[Garycarson1]

Flop, turn, river cards are not going to be equally likely.

The analysis of flop, turn, river card distributions is not simple.

Gary Carson

[2 hi]

Augie, just a question, cuz i didn't follow your logic very
well...Won't the expected win rate with these pocket pairs be very
different depending on your style of play or, more importantly, if
you're playing NL vs limit? In NL you can make a bigger pre-flop raise
with your AA and effectively get more players to fold.

I know you understand this, so I am pretty sure I am missing something
from what you said. Could you please explain to us "slower" RGPers.

Augie Chiausa wrote:

Not true. You can easily measure your earn. Here's a repeat of
something I
posted a few months back:

Without wanting to give away too much information, I've collected a
database
of 12,498 hands, and thought I'd share some observations from time to
time.

Number of hands observed 12,498

Hand Observer Expected Winrate W/L

AA 53 56.8 81% W
KK 55 "" 64% W
QQ 41 "" 66% W
JJ 71 "" 60% W
TT 61 "" 59% W
99 46 "" 51% W
88 45 "" 35% W
77 65 "" 34% L
66 59 "" 22% W
55 58 "" 17% L
44 65 "" 29% L
33 49 "" 16% L
22 54 "" 26% W

Currently, AA, for instance, averages 2.98 BB win rate. KK averages
1.56
BBs.

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[valent...@hotmail.com]

Quarta-feira, 8 de Outubro de 2003 19:26:14 UTC+1, Tony H. escreveu:
> Hi all,
>
> Since I've finally finished the PokerStars version of PokerStat, I had
> someone send me their hand statistics. I don't have this many hand
> histories, so these aren't my statistics, but the statistics are
> anonymous. I also have permission to post these, so, anyways, here
> they are, hopefully these, along with statistics for card
> distributions from Paradise Poker and TruePoker which I've posted in
> the past, will be read by some of the conspiracy theorists! Of course,
> these stats doesn't mean there isn't cheating due to collusion going
> on, or that there could still be situational rigging of the deal (two
> strong hands against each other). It just means that people who
> complain that "my four flushes don't make it" or that "Aces flop more
> often than they should when I have AK" can now see that the
> distribution is normal, and that players make their hands at normal
> rates (expected number of pairs, 2 pairs, flushes, straights, etc).
>
> - Tony
>
> Starting cards:
>
> Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852
>
> All suited starters dealt: 29595 (23.52%)
> All suited starters expected: 29612 (23.5%)
>
> All connected starters dealt: 19493 (15.49%)
> All connected starters expected: 19741 (15.7%)
>
> Suited connector starters dealt: 4837 (3.84%)
> Suited connector starters expected: 4935 (3.92%)
>
> Paired starters dealt: 7364 (5.851%)
> Paired starters expected: 7403 (5.88%)
>
> AKo dealt: 1202 (0.955%)
> AKo expected: 1139 (0.905%)
>
> AKs dealt: 373 (0.296%)
> AKs expected: 380 (0.302%)
>
> Any AK dealt: 1575 (1.251%)
> Any AK expected: 1519 (1.21%)
>
> A's dealt: 603 (0.479%)
> K's dealt: 543 (0.431%)
> Q's dealt: 558 (0.443%)
> J's dealt: 551 (0.438%)
> T's dealt: 546 (0.434%)
> 9's dealt: 585 (0.465%)
> 8's dealt: 568 (0.451%)
> 7's dealt: 597 (0.474%)
> 6's dealt: 542 (0.431%)
> 5's dealt: 532 (0.423%)
> 4's dealt: 603 (0.479%)
> 3's dealt: 582 (0.462%)
> 2's dealt: 554 (0.440%)
> Each pair expected: 569 (0.452%)
>
> (Note that only data for hands where a flop was dealt and you
> were dealt cards preflop are used. Hands where no flop was dealt
> are skipped.)
>
> Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852
> Times a flop dealt when you were dealt cards: 80610 (64.05%)
>
> When user dealt AK, flops at least one A or K: 346 (33.11%)
> expected: 339 (32.4%)
>
> USER HAS ANY TWO SUITED CARDS (dealt 19446 times):
> Using both user's hole cards, flopped a:
> 3 flush: 8164 (41.98%) expected: 8087 (41.6%)
> 4 flush: 2226 (11.45%) expected: 2128 (10.9%)
> 5 flush: 147 (0.76%) expected: 164 (0.842%)
> Three cards on the flop make up a:
> 3 straight: 612 (3.15%) expected: 620 (3.18%)
> 2 flush: 10728 (55.17%) expected: 10718 (55.1%)
> 3 flush: 981 (5.04%) expected: 1015 (05.22%)
> any pair: 3303 (16.99%) expected: 3292 (16.9%)
> Hand user flops:
> High card: 10257 (52.7%) expected: 10233 (52.6%)
> Pair: 7868 (40.5%) expected: 7858 (40.4%)
> Two pair: 757 (3.89%) expected: 786 (4.04%)
> 3 of a kind: 302 (1.55%) expected: 306 (1.57%)
> Straight: 97 (0.50%) expected: 80 (0.412%)
> Flush: 147 (0.76%) expected: 162 (0.835%)
> Full house: 15 (0.077%) expected: 18 (0.0918%)
> Four of a kind: 3 (0.015%) expected: 2 (0.0102%)
> Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.00589%)
> Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.000654%)
>
> USER HAS ANY PAIR (dealt 5218 times):
> Using both user's hole cards, flopped a:
> Underpair (to flop): 1224 (23.46%) expected: 1225 (23.5%)
> Overpair (to flop): 1215 (23.28%) expected: 1225 (23.5%)
> Set: 647 (12.40%) expected: 601 (11.51%)
> Quads: 5 (0.096%) expected: 13 (0.245%)
> Three cards on the flop make up a:
> 3 straight: 168 (3.22%) expected: 166 (3.18%)
> 2 flush: 2860 (54.81%) expected: 2872 (55.0%)
> 3 flush: 305 (5.85%) expected: 269 (5.16%)
> any pair: 896 (17.17%) expected: 895 (17.1%)
> Hand user flops:
> High card: 0 (0.0%) expected: 0 (0.00%)
> Pair: 3707 (71.0%) expected: 3748 (71.8%)
> Two pair: 841 (16.12%) expected: 843 (16.2%)
> 3 of a kind: 597 (11.44%) expected: 562 (10.8%)
> Straight: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0
> (0.00%)
> Flush: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0 (0.00%)
> Full house: 68 (1.303%) expected: 51 (0.980%)
> Four of a kind: 5 (0.096%) expected: 13 (0.245%)
> Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)
> Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)
>
> USER HAS OFFSUIT CONNECTORS FROM 54o to JTo (dealt 5026 times):
> Using both user's hole cards, flopped a:
> Open ended: 414 (8.24%) expected: 430 (8.55%)
> Double belly: 24 (0.48%) expected: 27 (0.531%)
> Straight: 70 (1.39%) expected: 63 (1.26%)
> Three cards on the flop make up a:
> 3 straight: 180 (3.58%) expected: 158 (3.15%)
> 2 flush: 2804 (55.79%) expected: 2766 (55.0%)
> 3 flush: 259 (5.15%) expected: 260 (5.16%)
> any pair: 852 (16.95%) expected: 851 (16.9%)
> Hand user flops:
> High card: 2641 (52.5%) expected: 2646 (52.6%)
> Pair: 2025 (40.3%) expected: 2031 (40.4%)
> Two pair: 200 (3.98%) expected: 203 (4.04%)
> 3 of a kind: 87 (1.73%) expected: 79 (1.57%)
> Straight: 72 (1.43%) expected: 62 (1.23%)
> Flush: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0 (0.00%)
> Full house: 1 (0.020%) expected: 5 (0.0918%)
> Four of a kind: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.0102%)
> Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)
> Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)
>
> ALL FLOPS SEEN BY THE USER:
> Three cards on the flop make up a:
> 3 straight: 2630 (3.26%) expected: 2568 (3.19%)
> 2 flush: 44329 (54.99%) expected: 44383 (55.1%)
> 3 flush: 4176 (5.18%) expected: 4173 (5.18%)
> any pair: 13699 (16.99%) expected: 13656 (16.9%)
> Hand user flops:
> High card: 40153 (49.8%) expected: 40400 (50.1%)
> Pair: 34179 (42.4%) expected: 34063 (42.3%)
> Two pair: 3863 (4.79%) expected: 3832 (4.75%)
> 3 of a kind: 1770 (2.20%) expected: 1703 (2.11%)
> Straight: 357 (0.44%) expected: 316 (0.392%)
> Flush: 147 (0.18%) expected: 158 (0.197%)
> Full house: 131 (0.163%) expected: 116 (0.144%)
> Four of a kind: 10 (0.012%) expected: 19 (0.0240%)
> Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.00139%)
> Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.000154%)
>
> (Note that only data for hands where a river was dealt and you
> were dealt cards preflop are used. Hands where no river was dealt
> are skipped.)
>
> Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852
>
> Total final boards seen when you were dealt cards: 44325
>
> USER HAS ANY TWO SUITED CARDS (dealt 10628 times):
> Four flushes flopped: 1262 (11.87%)
> expected: 1163 (10.9%)
> When flop four flush, got flush: 464 (36.77%)
> expected: 441 (35.0%)
> Hand user has at river:
> High card: 1871 (17.6%) expected: 1852 (17.4%)
> Pair: 4465 (42.0%) expected: 4532 (42.6%)
> Two pair: 2290 (21.55%) expected: 2349 (22.1%)
> 3 of a kind: 463 (4.36%) expected: 461 (4.33%)
> Straight: 494 (4.65%) expected: 484 (4.56%)
> Flush: 786 (7.40%) expected: 692 (6.51%)
> Full house: 236 (2.221%) expected: 236 (2.22%)
> Four of a kind: 15 (0.141%) expected: 13 (0.126%)
> Straight flush: 7 (0.066%) expected: 7 (0.0663%)
> Royal flush: 1 (0.009%) expected: 1 (0.00781%)
>
> USER HAS ANY PAIR (dealt 3264 times):
> A set flopped: 470 (14.40%)
> expected: 368 (11.3%)
> When flop set, got boat or quads: 153 (32.55%)
> expected: 157 (33.4%)
> Hand user has at river:
> High card: 0 (0.0%) expected: 0 (0.00%)
> Pair: 1126 (34.5%) expected: 1158 (35.5%)
> Two pair: 1253 (38.39%) expected: 1290 (39.5%)
> 3 of a kind: 435 (13.33%) expected: 383 (11.7%)
> Straight: 45 (1.38%) expected: 62 (1.90%)
> Flush: 63 (1.93%) expected: 64 (1.95%)
> Full house: 316 (9.681%) expected: 279 (8.54%)
> Four of a kind: 26 (0.797%) expected: 27 (0.842%)
> Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.0160%)
> Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00182%)
>
> USER HAS OFFSUIT CONNECTORS FROM 54o to JTo (dealt 2655 times):
> Flopped open ended: 244 (9.19%)
> expected: 227 (8.55%)
> When open ended, got straight: 69 (28.28%)
> expected: 75 (30.7%)
> Hand user has at river:
> High card: 445 (16.8%) expected: 457 (17.2%)
> Pair: 1140 (42.9%) expected: 1135 (42.7%)
> Two pair: 561 (21.13%) expected: 591 (22.3%)
> 3 of a kind: 112 (4.22%) expected: 115 (4.35%)
> Straight: 259 (9.76%) expected: 242 (9.12%)
> Flush: 60 (2.26%) expected: 52 (1.95%)
> Full house: 72 (2.712%) expected: 59 (2.22%)
> Four of a kind: 5 (0.188%) expected: 3 (0.126%)
> Straight flush: 1 (0.038%) expected: 1 (0.0209%)
> Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00110%)
>
> ALL RIVERS SEEN BY THE USER:
> Hand user has at river:
> High card: 7614 (17.2%) expected: 7718 (17.4%)
> Pair: 19268 (43.5%) expected: 19424 (43.8%)
> Two pair: 10327 (23.30%) expected: 10414
> (23.5%)
> 3 of a kind: 2271 (5.12%) expected: 2141 (4.83%)
> Straight: 2095 (4.73%) expected: 2048 (4.62%)
> Flush: 1468 (3.31%) expected: 1341 (3.03%)
> Full house: 1195 (2.696%) expected: 1151 (2.60%)
> Four of a kind: 74 (0.167%) expected: 74 (0.168%)
> Straight flush: 12 (0.027%) expected: 12 (0.0279%)
> Royal flush: 1 (0.002%) expected: 1 (0.00323%)
>
> Four to a flush on board 2042 (4.607%)
> expected: 1902 (4.29%)

[valent...@hotmail.com]

Quarta-feira, 8 de Outubro de 2003 19:26:14 UTC+1, Tony H. escreveu:
> Hi all,

> WHAT IS THIS...!!!!? MANIPULATED STATISTICS, I KNOW I CAN I DO THE SAME, YOU WORK FOR POKERSTARS AND WILL DO WHAT THEY SAY. THE POKERSTARS GAME IS MANIPULATED AND IS SO EASY TO SEE, THE PLAYERS WHO GIVES RAIKE TO THE POKERSTARS CAN WIN TOURNEMENTS THE OTHERS NO!!!!! I OBSERVED LOTS OF TIMES THE POKERSTARS PLAYERS ELIMINATED GOOD PLAYERS WITH BAD HANDS, SPECIAL IN THE PRIME, AND..... YOU COME WITH MANIPULATED STATISTICS, ARE YOU PRETENDING PROVE THE ONLINE POKER FROM POKERSTARS ARE CLEAN, WITH STATISTICS DONE BY YOURSELF AND A PROGRAM CRIATED FOR YOU. GET LOST!!!!

[shi...@rkmail.ru]

среда, 8 октября 2003 г., 22:26:14 UTC+4 пользователь Tony H. написал:
> Hi all,Since I've finally finished the PokerStars version of PokerStat, I had someone send me their hand statistics. I don't have this many hand histories, so these aren't my statistics, but the statistics are anonymous. I also have permission to post these, so, anyways, here they are, hopefully these, along with statistics for card distributions from Paradise Poker and TruePoker which I've posted in the past, will be read by some of the conspiracy theorists! Of course, these stats doesn't mean there isn't cheating due to collusion going on, or that there could still be situational rigging of the deal (two strong hands against each other). It just means that people who complain that "my four flushes don't make it" or that "Aces flop more often than they should when I have AK" can now see that the distribution is normal, and that players make their hands at normal rates (expected number of pairs, 2 pairs, flushes, straights, etc).- TonyStarting cards:Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852All suited starters dealt: 29595 (23.52%) All suited starters expected: 29612 (23.5%)All connected starters dealt: 19493 (15.49%) All connected starters expected: 19741 (15.7%)Suited connector starters dealt: 4837 (3.84%) Suited connector starters expected: 4935 (3.92%)Paired starters dealt: 7364 (5.851%) Paired starters expected: 7403 (5.88%)AKo dealt: 1202 (0.955%) AKo expected: 1139 (0.905%)AKs dealt: 373 (0.296%) AKs expected: 380 (0.302%)Any AK dealt: 1575 (1.251%) Any AK expected: 1519 (1.21%)A's dealt: 603 (0.479%) K's dealt: 543 (0.431%)Q's dealt: 558 (0.443%) J's dealt: 551 (0.438%)T's dealt: 546 (0.434%) 9's dealt: 585 (0.465%)8's dealt: 568 (0.451%) 7's dealt: 597 (0.474%)6's dealt: 542 (0.431%) 5's dealt: 532 (0.423%)4's dealt: 603 (0.479%) 3's dealt: 582 (0.462%)2's dealt: 554 (0.440%) Each pair expected: 569 (0.452%)(Note that only data for hands where a flop was dealt and you were dealt cards preflop are used. Hands where no flop was dealt are skipped.)Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852 Times a flop dealt when you were dealt cards: 80610 (64.05%)When user dealt AK, flops at least one A or K: 346 (33.11%) expected: 339 (32.4%)USER HAS ANY TWO SUITED CARDS (dealt 19446 times): Using both user's hole cards, flopped a: 3 flush: 8164 (41.98%) expected: 8087 (41.6%) 4 flush: 2226 (11.45%) expected: 2128 (10.9%) 5 flush: 147 (0.76%) expected: 164 (0.842%) Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 612 (3.15%) expected: 620 (3.18%) 2 flush: 10728 (55.17%) expected: 10718 (55.1%) 3 flush: 981 (5.04%) expected: 1015 (05.22%) any pair: 3303 (16.99%) expected: 3292 (16.9%)Hand user flops: High card: 10257 (52.7%) expected: 10233 (52.6%) Pair: 7868 (40.5%) expected: 7858 (40.4%) Two pair: 757 (3.89%) expected: 786 (4.04%) 3 of a kind: 302 (1.55%) expected: 306 (1.57%) Straight: 97 (0.50%) expected: 80 (0.412%) Flush: 147 (0.76%) expected: 162 (0.835%) Full house: 15 (0.077%) expected: 18 (0.0918%) Four of a kind: 3 (0.015%) expected: 2 (0.0102%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.00589%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.000654%)USER HAS ANY PAIR (dealt 5218 times): Using both user's hole cards, flopped a: Underpair (to flop): 1224 (23.46%) expected: 1225 (23.5%) Overpair (to flop): 1215 (23.28%) expected: 1225 (23.5%) Set: 647 (12.40%) expected: 601 (11.51%) Quads: 5 (0.096%) expected: 13 (0.245%) Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 168 (3.22%) expected: 166 (3.18%) 2 flush: 2860 (54.81%) expected: 2872 (55.0%) 3 flush: 305 (5.85%) expected: 269 (5.16%) any pair: 896 (17.17%) expected: 895 (17.1%)Hand user flops: High card: 0 (0.0%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Pair: 3707 (71.0%) expected: 3748 (71.8%) Two pair: 841 (16.12%) expected: 843 (16.2%) 3 of a kind: 597 (11.44%) expected: 562 (10.8%) Straight: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0(0.00%) Flush: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Full house: 68 (1.303%) expected: 51 (0.980%) Four of a kind: 5 (0.096%) expected: 13 (0.245%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)USER HAS OFFSUIT CONNECTORS FROM 54o to JTo (dealt 5026 times): Using both user's hole cards, flopped a: Open ended: 414 (8.24%) expected: 430 (8.55%) Double belly: 24 (0.48%) expected: 27 (0.531%) Straight: 70 (1.39%) expected: 63 (1.26%) Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 180 (3.58%) expected: 158 (3.15%) 2 flush: 2804 (55.79%) expected: 2766 (55.0%) 3 flush: 259 (5.15%) expected: 260 (5.16%) any pair: 852 (16.95%) expected: 851 (16.9%)Hand user flops: High card: 2641 (52.5%) expected: 2646 (52.6%) Pair: 2025 (40.3%) expected: 2031 (40.4%) Two pair: 200 (3.98%) expected: 203 (4.04%) 3 of a kind: 87 (1.73%) expected: 79 (1.57%) Straight: 72 (1.43%) expected: 62 (1.23%) Flush: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Full house: 1 (0.020%) expected: 5 (0.0918%) Four of a kind: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.0102%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)ALL FLOPS SEEN BY THE USER:Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 2630 (3.26%) expected: 2568 (3.19%) 2 flush: 44329 (54.99%) expected: 44383 (55.1%) 3 flush: 4176 (5.18%) expected: 4173 (5.18%) any pair: 13699 (16.99%) expected: 13656 (16.9%)Hand user flops: High card: 40153 (49.8%) expected: 40400 (50.1%) Pair: 34179 (42.4%) expected: 34063 (42.3%) Two pair: 3863 (4.79%) expected: 3832 (4.75%) 3 of a kind: 1770 (2.20%) expected: 1703 (2.11%) Straight: 357 (0.44%) expected: 316 (0.392%) Flush: 147 (0.18%) expected: 158 (0.197%) Full house: 131 (0.163%) expected: 116 (0.144%) Four of a kind: 10 (0.012%) expected: 19 (0.0240%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.00139%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.000154%)(Note that only data for hands where a river was dealt and you were dealt cards preflop are used. Hands where no river was dealt are skipped.)Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852Total final boards seen when you were dealt cards: 44325USER HAS ANY TWO SUITED CARDS (dealt 10628 times): Four flushes flopped: 1262 (11.87%)expected: 1163 (10.9%) When flop four flush, got flush: 464 (36.77%)expected: 441 (35.0%) Hand user has at river:High card: 1871 (17.6%) expected: 1852 (17.4%) Pair: 4465 (42.0%) expected: 4532 (42.6%) Two pair: 2290 (21.55%) expected: 2349 (22.1%) 3 of a kind: 463 (4.36%) expected: 461 (4.33%) Straight: 494 (4.65%) expected: 484 (4.56%) Flush: 786 (7.40%) expected: 692 (6.51%) Full house: 236 (2.221%) expected: 236 (2.22%) Four of a kind: 15 (0.141%) expected: 13 (0.126%) Straight flush: 7 (0.066%) expected: 7 (0.0663%) Royal flush: 1 (0.009%) expected: 1 (0.00781%)USER HAS ANY PAIR (dealt 3264 times):A set flopped: 470 (14.40%) expected: 368 (11.3%)When flop set, got boat or quads: 153 (32.55%) expected: 157 (33.4%)Hand user has at river: High card: 0 (0.0%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Pair: 1126 (34.5%) expected: 1158 (35.5%) Two pair: 1253 (38.39%) expected: 1290 (39.5%) 3 of a kind: 435 (13.33%) expected: 383 (11.7%) Straight: 45 (1.38%) expected: 62 (1.90%) Flush: 63 (1.93%) expected: 64 (1.95%) Full house: 316 (9.681%) expected: 279 (8.54%) Four of a kind: 26 (0.797%) expected: 27 (0.842%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.0160%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00182%)USER HAS OFFSUIT CONNECTORS FROM 54o to JTo (dealt 2655 times): Flopped open ended: 244 (9.19%)expected: 227 (8.55%) When open ended, got straight: 69 (28.28%)expected: 75 (30.7%) Hand user has at river:High card: 445 (16.8%) expected: 457 (17.2%) Pair: 1140 (42.9%) expected: 1135 (42.7%) Two pair: 561 (21.13%) expected: 591 (22.3%) 3 of a kind: 112 (4.22%) expected: 115 (4.35%) Straight: 259 (9.76%) expected: 242 (9.12%) Flush: 60 (2.26%) expected: 52 (1.95%) Full house: 72 (2.712%) expected: 59 (2.22%) Four of a kind: 5 (0.188%) expected: 3 (0.126%) Straight flush: 1 (0.038%) expected: 1 (0.0209%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00110%)ALL RIVERS SEEN BY THE USER:Hand user has at river: High card: 7614 (17.2%) expected: 7718 (17.4%) Pair: 19268 (43.5%) expected: 19424 (43.8%) Two pair: 10327 (23.30%) expected: 10414(23.5%) 3 of a kind: 2271 (5.12%) expected: 2141 (4.83%) Straight: 2095 (4.73%) expected: 2048 (4.62%) Flush: 1468 (3.31%) expected: 1341 (3.03%) Full house: 1195 (2.696%) expected: 1151 (2.60%) Four of a kind: 74 (0.167%) expected: 74 (0.168%) Straight flush: 12 (0.027%) expected: 12 (0.0279%) Royal flush: 1 (0.002%) expected: 1 (0.00323%)Four to a flush on board 2042 (4.607%)expected: 1902 (4.29%)

Что ты тут ВРЕШЬ, как сивый мерин, "хозяева" дали команду ЭТОЙ ЛАБУДОЙ людям "МОЗГИ ЗАСИРАТЬ" или ты сам такой ИДИОТ! Что ты тут свою ТУПОСТЬ демонстрируешь? Мне ДАВНО ЯСНО, что Poker Stars-МОШЕННИКИ. Я им на пальцах ЭТО объяснял, но их ДОЛДОНЫ, как и ты НЕСУТ ТАКУЮ ЕРУНДУ, что впору самому становиться ДУРАКОМ! Про какую-то "ЧЕСТНОСТЬ" мне рассказывают БЕСЧЕСТНЫЕ МОШЕННИКИ! Ну как тут ДУРАКОМ не стать?
А тебе я скажу: в трех фрироллах, сыгранных в течении ДВУХ ДНЕЙ, меня ДВАЖДЫ "переехали" стрит-флашем.(сегодня и 23/08/2012 г.) Так что СВОЮ ЛАБУДУ ЗАСУНЬ в свою ЗАДНИЦУ!
Продвигая МЕРЗОСТЬ, ты сам АПРИОРИ, становишься МЕРЗАВЦЕМ-узнал теперь, кто ты есть, со своей ЛОЖЬЮ, про "анализ истории рук". Вот же УБОЖЕСТВО! Спрашивать про то, сколько тебе заплатили за ВСЮ ЭТУ ХРЕНЬ БЕСПОЛЕЗНО, но мне ОЧЕВИДНО, что согласиться на МЕРЗОСТЬ могут УБОГИЕ ДУХОМ люди или просто МЕРЗАВЦЫ по ЖИЗНИ, и ТОЛЬКО за ДЕНЬГИ!!!
Мне тошно от тебе подобных! Я презираю подобное БЫДЛО! Но лучше было-бы НАБИТЬ тебе твою РОЖУ, что-бы больше НИКОГДА НЕ ВРАЛ! Жаль, что у меня НЕТ ТАКОЙ ВОЗМОЖНОСТИ! Я бы, с УДОВОЛЬСТВИЕМ тебе ВРЕЗАЛ!

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[shi...@rkmail.ru]

On Wednesday, October 8, 2003 10:26:14 PM UTC+4, Tony H. wrote:
> Hi all,Since I've finally finished the PokerStars version of PokerStat, I had someone send me their hand statistics. I don't have this many hand histories, so these aren't my statistics, but the statistics are anonymous. I also have permission to post these, so, anyways, here they are, hopefully these, along with statistics for card distributions from Paradise Poker and TruePoker which I've posted in the past, will be read by some of the conspiracy theorists! Of course, these stats doesn't mean there isn't cheating due to collusion going on, or that there could still be situational rigging of the deal (two strong hands against each other). It just means that people who complain that "my four flushes don't make it" or that "Aces flop more often than they should when I have AK" can now see that the distribution is normal, and that players make their hands at normal rates (expected number of pairs, 2 pairs, flushes, straights, etc).- TonyStarting cards:Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852All suited starters dealt: 29595 (23.52%) All suited starters expected: 29612 (23.5%)All connected starters dealt: 19493 (15.49%) All connected starters expected: 19741 (15.7%)Suited connector starters dealt: 4837 (3.84%) Suited connector starters expected: 4935 (3.92%)Paired starters dealt: 7364 (5.851%) Paired starters expected: 7403 (5.88%)AKo dealt: 1202 (0.955%) AKo expected: 1139 (0.905%)AKs dealt: 373 (0.296%) AKs expected: 380 (0.302%)Any AK dealt: 1575 (1.251%) Any AK expected: 1519 (1.21%)A's dealt: 603 (0.479%) K's dealt: 543 (0.431%)Q's dealt: 558 (0.443%) J's dealt: 551 (0.438%)T's dealt: 546 (0.434%) 9's dealt: 585 (0.465%)8's dealt: 568 (0.451%) 7's dealt: 597 (0.474%)6's dealt: 542 (0.431%) 5's dealt: 532 (0.423%)4's dealt: 603 (0.479%) 3's dealt: 582 (0.462%)2's dealt: 554 (0.440%) Each pair expected: 569 (0.452%)(Note that only data for hands where a flop was dealt and you were dealt cards preflop are used. Hands where no flop was dealt are skipped.)Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852 Times a flop dealt when you were dealt cards: 80610 (64.05%)When user dealt AK, flops at least one A or K: 346 (33.11%) expected: 339 (32.4%)USER HAS ANY TWO SUITED CARDS (dealt 19446 times): Using both user's hole cards, flopped a: 3 flush: 8164 (41.98%) expected: 8087 (41.6%) 4 flush: 2226 (11.45%) expected: 2128 (10.9%) 5 flush: 147 (0.76%) expected: 164 (0.842%) Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 612 (3.15%) expected: 620 (3.18%) 2 flush: 10728 (55.17%) expected: 10718 (55.1%) 3 flush: 981 (5.04%) expected: 1015 (05.22%) any pair: 3303 (16.99%) expected: 3292 (16.9%)Hand user flops: High card: 10257 (52.7%) expected: 10233 (52.6%) Pair: 7868 (40.5%) expected: 7858 (40.4%) Two pair: 757 (3.89%) expected: 786 (4.04%) 3 of a kind: 302 (1.55%) expected: 306 (1.57%) Straight: 97 (0.50%) expected: 80 (0.412%) Flush: 147 (0.76%) expected: 162 (0.835%) Full house: 15 (0.077%) expected: 18 (0.0918%) Four of a kind: 3 (0.015%) expected: 2 (0.0102%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.00589%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.000654%)USER HAS ANY PAIR (dealt 5218 times): Using both user's hole cards, flopped a: Underpair (to flop): 1224 (23.46%) expected: 1225 (23.5%) Overpair (to flop): 1215 (23.28%) expected: 1225 (23.5%) Set: 647 (12.40%) expected: 601 (11.51%) Quads: 5 (0.096%) expected: 13 (0.245%) Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 168 (3.22%) expected: 166 (3.18%) 2 flush: 2860 (54.81%) expected: 2872 (55.0%) 3 flush: 305 (5.85%) expected: 269 (5.16%) any pair: 896 (17.17%) expected: 895 (17.1%)Hand user flops: High card: 0 (0.0%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Pair: 3707 (71.0%) expected: 3748 (71.8%) Two pair: 841 (16.12%) expected: 843 (16.2%) 3 of a kind: 597 (11.44%) expected: 562 (10.8%) Straight: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0(0.00%) Flush: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Full house: 68 (1.303%) expected: 51 (0.980%) Four of a kind: 5 (0.096%) expected: 13 (0.245%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)USER HAS OFFSUIT CONNECTORS FROM 54o to JTo (dealt 5026 times): Using both user's hole cards, flopped a: Open ended: 414 (8.24%) expected: 430 (8.55%) Double belly: 24 (0.48%) expected: 27 (0.531%) Straight: 70 (1.39%) expected: 63 (1.26%) Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 180 (3.58%) expected: 158 (3.15%) 2 flush: 2804 (55.79%) expected: 2766 (55.0%) 3 flush: 259 (5.15%) expected: 260 (5.16%) any pair: 852 (16.95%) expected: 851 (16.9%)Hand user flops: High card: 2641 (52.5%) expected: 2646 (52.6%) Pair: 2025 (40.3%) expected: 2031 (40.4%) Two pair: 200 (3.98%) expected: 203 (4.04%) 3 of a kind: 87 (1.73%) expected: 79 (1.57%) Straight: 72 (1.43%) expected: 62 (1.23%) Flush: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Full house: 1 (0.020%) expected: 5 (0.0918%) Four of a kind: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.0102%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)ALL FLOPS SEEN BY THE USER:Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 2630 (3.26%) expected: 2568 (3.19%) 2 flush: 44329 (54.99%) expected: 44383 (55.1%) 3 flush: 4176 (5.18%) expected: 4173 (5.18%) any pair: 13699 (16.99%) expected: 13656 (16.9%)Hand user flops: High card: 40153 (49.8%) expected: 40400 (50.1%) Pair: 34179 (42.4%) expected: 34063 (42.3%) Two pair: 3863 (4.79%) expected: 3832 (4.75%) 3 of a kind: 1770 (2.20%) expected: 1703 (2.11%) Straight: 357 (0.44%) expected: 316 (0.392%) Flush: 147 (0.18%) expected: 158 (0.197%) Full house: 131 (0.163%) expected: 116 (0.144%) Four of a kind: 10 (0.012%) expected: 19 (0.0240%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.00139%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.000154%)(Note that only data for hands where a river was dealt and you were dealt cards preflop are used. Hands where no river was dealt are skipped.)Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852Total final boards seen when you were dealt cards: 44325USER HAS ANY TWO SUITED CARDS (dealt 10628 times): Four flushes flopped: 1262 (11.87%)expected: 1163 (10.9%) When flop four flush, got flush: 464 (36.77%)expected: 441 (35.0%) Hand user has at river:High card: 1871 (17.6%) expected: 1852 (17.4%) Pair: 4465 (42.0%) expected: 4532 (42.6%) Two pair: 2290 (21.55%) expected: 2349 (22.1%) 3 of a kind: 463 (4.36%) expected: 461 (4.33%) Straight: 494 (4.65%) expected: 484 (4.56%) Flush: 786 (7.40%) expected: 692 (6.51%) Full house: 236 (2.221%) expected: 236 (2.22%) Four of a kind: 15 (0.141%) expected: 13 (0.126%) Straight flush: 7 (0.066%) expected: 7 (0.0663%) Royal flush: 1 (0.009%) expected: 1 (0.00781%)USER HAS ANY PAIR (dealt 3264 times):A set flopped: 470 (14.40%) expected: 368 (11.3%)When flop set, got boat or quads: 153 (32.55%) expected: 157 (33.4%)Hand user has at river: High card: 0 (0.0%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Pair: 1126 (34.5%) expected: 1158 (35.5%) Two pair: 1253 (38.39%) expected: 1290 (39.5%) 3 of a kind: 435 (13.33%) expected: 383 (11.7%) Straight: 45 (1.38%) expected: 62 (1.90%) Flush: 63 (1.93%) expected: 64 (1.95%) Full house: 316 (9.681%) expected: 279 (8.54%) Four of a kind: 26 (0.797%) expected: 27 (0.842%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.0160%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00182%)USER HAS OFFSUIT CONNECTORS FROM 54o to JTo (dealt 2655 times): Flopped open ended: 244 (9.19%)expected: 227 (8.55%) When open ended, got straight: 69 (28.28%)expected: 75 (30.7%) Hand user has at river:High card: 445 (16.8%) expected: 457 (17.2%) Pair: 1140 (42.9%) expected: 1135 (42.7%) Two pair: 561 (21.13%) expected: 591 (22.3%) 3 of a kind: 112 (4.22%) expected: 115 (4.35%) Straight: 259 (9.76%) expected: 242 (9.12%) Flush: 60 (2.26%) expected: 52 (1.95%) Full house: 72 (2.712%) expected: 59 (2.22%) Four of a kind: 5 (0.188%) expected: 3 (0.126%) Straight flush: 1 (0.038%) expected: 1 (0.0209%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00110%)ALL RIVERS SEEN BY THE USER:Hand user has at river: High card: 7614 (17.2%) expected: 7718 (17.4%) Pair: 19268 (43.5%) expected: 19424 (43.8%) Two pair: 10327 (23.30%) expected: 10414(23.5%) 3 of a kind: 2271 (5.12%) expected: 2141 (4.83%) Straight: 2095 (4.73%) expected: 2048 (4.62%) Flush: 1468 (3.31%) expected: 1341 (3.03%) Full house: 1195 (2.696%) expected: 1151 (2.60%) Four of a kind: 74 (0.167%) expected: 74 (0.168%) Straight flush: 12 (0.027%) expected: 12 (0.0279%) Royal flush: 1 (0.002%) expected: 1 (0.00323%)Four to a flush on board 2042 (4.607%)expected: 1902 (4.29%)

Подобную ЛАБУДУ написать смог лишь ФЕЕРИЧЕСКИЙ ДОЛБОЕБ! Остается найти еще нескольких, подобных ДОЛБОЕБОВ и создать видимость "правдивости" подобной ХРЕНИ!Так Покер Старс "улучшает" свой имидж, который НОРМАЛЬНОМУ ЧЕЛОВЕКУ ЯСЕН, КАК БОЖИЙ ДЕНЬ-МОШЕННИЧЕСКОЕ БЫДЛО, МЛЯ! МОШЕННИКИ, когда МОШЕННИЧАЮТ, ВСЕГДА ДАЮТ ГАРАНТИИ ЧЕСТНОСТИ, ПОКА НЕ "РАЗДЕНУТ" до трусов!!! Только потом СОПЛИ НЕ ПУСКАЙТЕ, когда вас "РАЗДЕНУТ". СУДИТЕ по делам.

[shi...@rkmail.ru]

On Wednesday, October 8, 2003 10:26:14 PM UTC+4, Tony H. wrote:
> Hi all,Since I've finally finished the PokerStars version of PokerStat, I had someone send me their hand statistics. I don't have this many hand histories, so these aren't my statistics, but the statistics are anonymous. I also have permission to post these, so, anyways, here they are, hopefully these, along with statistics for card distributions from Paradise Poker and TruePoker which I've posted in the past, will be read by some of the conspiracy theorists! Of course, these stats doesn't mean there isn't cheating due to collusion going on, or that there could still be situational rigging of the deal (two strong hands against each other). It just means that people who complain that "my four flushes don't make it" or that "Aces flop more often than they should when I have AK" can now see that the distribution is normal, and that players make their hands at normal rates (expected number of pairs, 2 pairs, flushes, straights, etc).- TonyStarting cards:Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852All suited starters dealt: 29595 (23.52%) All suited starters expected: 29612 (23.5%)All connected starters dealt: 19493 (15.49%) All connected starters expected: 19741 (15.7%)Suited connector starters dealt: 4837 (3.84%) Suited connector starters expected: 4935 (3.92%)Paired starters dealt: 7364 (5.851%) Paired starters expected: 7403 (5.88%)AKo dealt: 1202 (0.955%) AKo expected: 1139 (0.905%)AKs dealt: 373 (0.296%) AKs expected: 380 (0.302%)Any AK dealt: 1575 (1.251%) Any AK expected: 1519 (1.21%)A's dealt: 603 (0.479%) K's dealt: 543 (0.431%)Q's dealt: 558 (0.443%) J's dealt: 551 (0.438%)T's dealt: 546 (0.434%) 9's dealt: 585 (0.465%)8's dealt: 568 (0.451%) 7's dealt: 597 (0.474%)6's dealt: 542 (0.431%) 5's dealt: 532 (0.423%)4's dealt: 603 (0.479%) 3's dealt: 582 (0.462%)2's dealt: 554 (0.440%) Each pair expected: 569 (0.452%)(Note that only data for hands where a flop was dealt and you were dealt cards preflop are used. Hands where no flop was dealt are skipped.)Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852 Times a flop dealt when you were dealt cards: 80610 (64.05%)When user dealt AK, flops at least one A or K: 346 (33.11%) expected: 339 (32.4%)USER HAS ANY TWO SUITED CARDS (dealt 19446 times): Using both user's hole cards, flopped a: 3 flush: 8164 (41.98%) expected: 8087 (41.6%) 4 flush: 2226 (11.45%) expected: 2128 (10.9%) 5 flush: 147 (0.76%) expected: 164 (0.842%) Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 612 (3.15%) expected: 620 (3.18%) 2 flush: 10728 (55.17%) expected: 10718 (55.1%) 3 flush: 981 (5.04%) expected: 1015 (05.22%) any pair: 3303 (16.99%) expected: 3292 (16.9%)Hand user flops: High card: 10257 (52.7%) expected: 10233 (52.6%) Pair: 7868 (40.5%) expected: 7858 (40.4%) Two pair: 757 (3.89%) expected: 786 (4.04%) 3 of a kind: 302 (1.55%) expected: 306 (1.57%) Straight: 97 (0.50%) expected: 80 (0.412%) Flush: 147 (0.76%) expected: 162 (0.835%) Full house: 15 (0.077%) expected: 18 (0.0918%) Four of a kind: 3 (0.015%) expected: 2 (0.0102%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.00589%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.000654%)USER HAS ANY PAIR (dealt 5218 times): Using both user's hole cards, flopped a: Underpair (to flop): 1224 (23.46%) expected: 1225 (23.5%) Overpair (to flop): 1215 (23.28%) expected: 1225 (23.5%) Set: 647 (12.40%) expected: 601 (11.51%) Quads: 5 (0.096%) expected: 13 (0.245%) Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 168 (3.22%) expected: 166 (3.18%) 2 flush: 2860 (54.81%) expected: 2872 (55.0%) 3 flush: 305 (5.85%) expected: 269 (5.16%) any pair: 896 (17.17%) expected: 895 (17.1%)Hand user flops: High card: 0 (0.0%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Pair: 3707 (71.0%) expected: 3748 (71.8%) Two pair: 841 (16.12%) expected: 843 (16.2%) 3 of a kind: 597 (11.44%) expected: 562 (10.8%) Straight: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0(0.00%) Flush: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Full house: 68 (1.303%) expected: 51 (0.980%) Four of a kind: 5 (0.096%) expected: 13 (0.245%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)USER HAS OFFSUIT CONNECTORS FROM 54o to JTo (dealt 5026 times): Using both user's hole cards, flopped a: Open ended: 414 (8.24%) expected: 430 (8.55%) Double belly: 24 (0.48%) expected: 27 (0.531%) Straight: 70 (1.39%) expected: 63 (1.26%) Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 180 (3.58%) expected: 158 (3.15%) 2 flush: 2804 (55.79%) expected: 2766 (55.0%) 3 flush: 259 (5.15%) expected: 260 (5.16%) any pair: 852 (16.95%) expected: 851 (16.9%)Hand user flops: High card: 2641 (52.5%) expected: 2646 (52.6%) Pair: 2025 (40.3%) expected: 2031 (40.4%) Two pair: 200 (3.98%) expected: 203 (4.04%) 3 of a kind: 87 (1.73%) expected: 79 (1.57%) Straight: 72 (1.43%) expected: 62 (1.23%) Flush: 0 (0.00%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Full house: 1 (0.020%) expected: 5 (0.0918%) Four of a kind: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.0102%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00%)ALL FLOPS SEEN BY THE USER:Three cards on the flop make up a: 3 straight: 2630 (3.26%) expected: 2568 (3.19%) 2 flush: 44329 (54.99%) expected: 44383 (55.1%) 3 flush: 4176 (5.18%) expected: 4173 (5.18%) any pair: 13699 (16.99%) expected: 13656 (16.9%)Hand user flops: High card: 40153 (49.8%) expected: 40400 (50.1%) Pair: 34179 (42.4%) expected: 34063 (42.3%) Two pair: 3863 (4.79%) expected: 3832 (4.75%) 3 of a kind: 1770 (2.20%) expected: 1703 (2.11%) Straight: 357 (0.44%) expected: 316 (0.392%) Flush: 147 (0.18%) expected: 158 (0.197%) Full house: 131 (0.163%) expected: 116 (0.144%) Four of a kind: 10 (0.012%) expected: 19 (0.0240%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.00139%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.000154%)(Note that only data for hands where a river was dealt and you were dealt cards preflop are used. Hands where no river was dealt are skipped.)Total hands you were dealt cards: 125852Total final boards seen when you were dealt cards: 44325USER HAS ANY TWO SUITED CARDS (dealt 10628 times): Four flushes flopped: 1262 (11.87%)expected: 1163 (10.9%) When flop four flush, got flush: 464 (36.77%)expected: 441 (35.0%) Hand user has at river:High card: 1871 (17.6%) expected: 1852 (17.4%) Pair: 4465 (42.0%) expected: 4532 (42.6%) Two pair: 2290 (21.55%) expected: 2349 (22.1%) 3 of a kind: 463 (4.36%) expected: 461 (4.33%) Straight: 494 (4.65%) expected: 484 (4.56%) Flush: 786 (7.40%) expected: 692 (6.51%) Full house: 236 (2.221%) expected: 236 (2.22%) Four of a kind: 15 (0.141%) expected: 13 (0.126%) Straight flush: 7 (0.066%) expected: 7 (0.0663%) Royal flush: 1 (0.009%) expected: 1 (0.00781%)USER HAS ANY PAIR (dealt 3264 times):A set flopped: 470 (14.40%) expected: 368 (11.3%)When flop set, got boat or quads: 153 (32.55%) expected: 157 (33.4%)Hand user has at river: High card: 0 (0.0%) expected: 0 (0.00%) Pair: 1126 (34.5%) expected: 1158 (35.5%) Two pair: 1253 (38.39%) expected: 1290 (39.5%) 3 of a kind: 435 (13.33%) expected: 383 (11.7%) Straight: 45 (1.38%) expected: 62 (1.90%) Flush: 63 (1.93%) expected: 64 (1.95%) Full house: 316 (9.681%) expected: 279 (8.54%) Four of a kind: 26 (0.797%) expected: 27 (0.842%) Straight flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 1 (0.0160%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00182%)USER HAS OFFSUIT CONNECTORS FROM 54o to JTo (dealt 2655 times): Flopped open ended: 244 (9.19%)expected: 227 (8.55%) When open ended, got straight: 69 (28.28%)expected: 75 (30.7%) Hand user has at river:High card: 445 (16.8%) expected: 457 (17.2%) Pair: 1140 (42.9%) expected: 1135 (42.7%) Two pair: 561 (21.13%) expected: 591 (22.3%) 3 of a kind: 112 (4.22%) expected: 115 (4.35%) Straight: 259 (9.76%) expected: 242 (9.12%) Flush: 60 (2.26%) expected: 52 (1.95%) Full house: 72 (2.712%) expected: 59 (2.22%) Four of a kind: 5 (0.188%) expected: 3 (0.126%) Straight flush: 1 (0.038%) expected: 1 (0.0209%) Royal flush: 0 (0.000%) expected: 0 (0.00110%)ALL RIVERS SEEN BY THE USER:Hand user has at river: High card: 7614 (17.2%) expected: 7718 (17.4%) Pair: 19268 (43.5%) expected: 19424 (43.8%) Two pair: 10327 (23.30%) expected: 10414(23.5%) 3 of a kind: 2271 (5.12%) expected: 2141 (4.83%) Straight: 2095 (4.73%) expected: 2048 (4.62%) Flush: 1468 (3.31%) expected: 1341 (3.03%) Full house: 1195 (2.696%) expected: 1151 (2.60%) Four of a kind: 74 (0.167%) expected: 74 (0.168%) Straight flush: 12 (0.027%) expected: 12 (0.0279%) Royal flush: 1 (0.002%) expected: 1 (0.00323%)Four to a flush on board 2042 (4.607%)expected: 1902 (4.29%)

ФЕЕРИЧЕСКИЙ ДОЛБОЕБ!!!

[amod...@gmail.com]

me per

On Wednesday, October 8, 2003 7:26:14 PM UTC+1, Tony H. wrote:
> Hi all,

> Total final boards seen when you were dealt cards: 44325
>
> USER HAS ANY TWO SUITED CARDS (dealt 10628 times):
> Four flushes flopped: 1262 (11.87%)
> expected: 1163 (10.9%)
> When flop four flush, got flush: 464 (36.77%)
> expected: 441 (35.0%)
> Hand user has at river:
> High card: 1871 (17.6%) expected: 1852 (17.4%)
> Pair: 4465 (42.0%) expected: 4532 (42.6%)
> Two pair: 2290 (21.55%) expected: 2349 (22.1%)
> 3 of a kind: 463 (4.36%) expected: 461 (4.33%)
> Straight: 494 (4.65%) expected: 484 (4.56%)
> Flush: 786 (7.40%) expected: 692 (6.51%)
> Full house: 236 (2.221%) expected: 236 (2.22%)
> Four of a kind: 15 (0.141%) expected: 13 (0.126%)
> Straight flush: 7 (0.066%) expected: 7 (0.0663%)
> Royal flush: 1 (0.009%) expected: 1 (0.00781%)
>
> USER HAS ANY PAIR (dealt 3264 times):
> A set flopped: 470 (14.40%)
> expected: 368 (11.3%)
> When flop set, got boat or quads: 153 (32.55%)
> expected: 157 (33.4%)
> Hand user has at river:

> me perdoem nao me diz nada, nao focam o que eu questiono obrigado pela atençao

[rpetr...@gmail.com]

[advanc...@gmail.com]

its fake and still the site continues rigged. the stats doesn't prove anything..

[vangel...@gmail.com]

Tony H i have a question. How much money you get from PS for this shits? Your stats doesnt say anything and are made from nobody knows where you get statistics.
So how we can belive it?

[poker...@gmail.com]

Exhaust RIVER! Unreality Moving time! How to play if ever AA <xxx and so on ... I have 40 letters sent in a support PokerStars, they do not care to all complaints and questions. Burn in hell that bastard who thought up and approved a Random Number Generator

[poker...@gmail.com]

среда, 8 октября 2003 г., 22:26:14 UTC+4 пользователь Tony H. написал:

Бред сивой кобылы !!! ПокерСтарс сборище ублюдков

[milet...@gmail.com]

This research is more then 10 years old, so its not valid in any way.This study is probably made under the influence of pokerstars or better name for them Jokestars and if we mention the source of played hands from this study there is no quesstion that the same study is a froud as same as jokestars.Fact is that there are so many bad beats way out more then it should be and the same princip that jokestars is useing is that the game must be funny and interesting so people would show more interest to play and thats how the game is created on jokestars.Plus if we mention the fact that some players always win the hands no matter the odds, usually on the river, that makes the impresion that those players allready knows what card will be displayed on river, by my homble opinion they know that.There is no other explanation except that the game on jokestars is fake and corrupted, after all we are talking about large sum of money.And the fact when you complain about bad beats they direct you to this study which is made by them and its 10 years old and when you tell them those fact above mentioned they simply say that you have been explained about how fair their hand are and that they will not discust any more with you on this subject.Picture is more than cristal clear.I have been playing texas holdem longer then the jokestars exist, across the planet from las vegas to atlantic city, barcelona, cancun , all acros europe, south asia and i have never ever in my entire life seen so many bad beats like on jokestars, the feeling is like im in some action movie from hollywood, unbeliveble, the situation i have been thru while playing on jokestars is undescribe, there are no words to use.No question this site is corrupted and with this post i would like to call people from all around the world to contact me on email rvlad...@yahoo.com who are willing to press charges against jokestars for froud.Im a lawyer and i would be glad to sue jokestars for froud specialy becouse they have ruin this beatifull game and turn it into a joke.Sadly they call them selfs the biggest poker room on the planet.Its time to stop this froud once for all

[blaz.so...@gmail.com]

I could not agree more on that f.... Poker stars is a scam and a fraud. F... thr statistics because they do not prove that turns and rivers are manipulated... In four years of playin I have always but always been rigged with bull shot hands especially ehen my stack was really big and just before the money.... Numerous situations when there is f..... no chance that anybody would call but this fake guys do because they know what card eill turn... I have also written to support numerous rmails eith copies of printscreen shots but they always just write to look at the stats... Fuck this bull shit Really in 4 years every day the same fucking story... I just hope that one day they get what they are looking for and that somebody will lose it and get back to them!!! Lile it was written, this is a bull shit american hollywood movie for idiots to play on...

[blaz.so...@gmail.com]

I can tell you eith 80% accuracy when I see the flop and the other players cards what will open... For instance the biggest bull shit is that this is a real player my hand from cash game yesterday ehen on flop there where 369 in diggerent colors, I had QQ and the otjer player calls me all in with A5 in his hands and he calls with 135 usd or something like that mine 80 usd and gues what shows up on turn????? A hahahahaha only a idiot could go all in eith that....

Looke I play almost every day for fout years on your site and really just because I was thinking that this is not possible but now I have seen enough!!!! Today I was rigged at the end with J8 in my hand and on flop J8J and gues ehat the other player had after I called all in??!!! J10 and gues what riber turns a 10 like allways!!!!

And the biggest bull shit is that always flop and two other cards open just lile that that you will for sure go all in coz nobody would fold strong hand or nuts on the flop... I am so possed about this fucking bull shot site and I am pissed of the most because they can just keep on doing this bull shit and laugh at us coz nobody can do nothing until somebody loses it.....

P

Bull shit

[Steam]

Post some hands and/or results, or shut the fuck up

[Steam]

On Jun 9 2013 9:17 PM, blaz.sonnenwald wrote:

> Hey I can post everything but you bitch better watch your language or you
will shut the fuck up for
> a long time bitch!!!

I'm very afarid of you, lol, you're not very bright?

[c_mclau...@hotmail.com]

On Wednesday, October 8, 2003 11:26:14 AM UTC-7, Tony H. wrote:

I think it i a crock I have played well over a million hands on many different levels of buy in's. Now bad poker play is for sure going to make the bad beats higher but you looking in the wrong spot to see where the deal IS NOT random. Do not look at the end look at the hands then look at the flop then the turn you will notice in most cases that the people involved in the hand usually have no choice but to go to the end just to lose. You ever have so many outs your alomst guaranteed to win well let me clue you in you wont win! It is set like that to keep you in the game make the rake higher and max out the rake! The end result in the bad beat is not even a question it is what happens to get you to the bad beat that you need to look at. Why also do you think they use a Indian reserve company to regulate ???? well because they are not governed by federal law and can do what ever they want so yea that BS too! ive it to a legit company that is held accountable for lying and you will hear a different story. Ask your self another simple question! What happens if they were to found to rig the deal for action? The answer is simple NOTHING they will not go to jail they will not get fined they receive no punishment what so ever! They make millions MORE by rigging for action and yes bigger games are not forced as much simply because the big spenders would not tolerate it! We can complain all we want our meager deposits and meager money they make off of us means nothing to them and they know a few people will do nothing to damage the company! You just need to ask the simple questions to find the true answers! Of course they rig the deal ismply because they are not held accountable for rigging it by anyone. Now withthat said you can win a lot of money and they will pay you but you have to be in the right place at the right time. And never ever ever ever play when you cash out because you will encounter what they themselves at poker stars have dubbed the "CASH OUT CURSE" Yes they actually sent me an email saying it is not the deal it is the cash out curse is the reason for mu sudden streak of never cashing in any sit n go and tourney to which I cash in more that 40% of my tourneys but suddenly it all stops completely! Bad streak is a bad streak I have been playing poker for more than 13 years believe me I have had my share of bad runs but usually never after I cash out LOL! It will always happen when you cash out and your cash out is pending now do not take my word for it record it yourself! As for the email hand history it means nothing record it using a screen recorder and then go by those hands! They can send you and email and change 90% of the hands and you will not remember all those hands they know this so thats the only numbers I would go by! Good Luck and see you at the tables!

[aelba...@gmail.com]

Op woensdag 8 oktober 2003 20:26:14 UTC+2 schreef Tony H.:

deposit evry day 10 euro a bout 4,5 years never too 100euro win only deposit corrupt )RNG

[andrea...@gmail.com]

> expected: 1902 (4.29%)

[andrea...@gmail.com]

Ciao io non sto chiedendo questo che tu mi hai scritto ... ma voglio sapere perché Pokerstars ogni volta che gioco io vengo sempre scoppiato e mi sono letteralmente rotto li coglioni
scoppi contro scoppi a destra e a sinistra sono mesi che non vinco nulla ....
Ero arrivato a 32€ in cassa e continuato a giocare come al solito e li ho persi tutti... ma mi spiego perché Pokerstars è diventato una pokeroom dei donk e fa vincere sempre loro..
Me lo spiegate per favore?

[feather...@live.co.uk]

Can someone one please tell me where I can analyse my hand history? I have thousands and thousands of hands written down, which I would like to convert into statistics. I havn't got a pokertracker programme on my computer yet, should I download one of them?

[dah...@gmail.com]

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Very nice....I have run 1M+ in pokertracker and everything looks fine.

BUT...

It should be a way to look at the "Critical hands". The hands that cost u the tornament.... obv the hands u remember best but....also the hands that matter the most.
I m convinced there is something "wrong" in these hands...too bad its
"impossible" to register...

Im on a huge downswing btw :-P

[sam...@hotmail.com]

Hey can you email me regarding this matter with pokerstars

[fan...@ya.ru]

не играйте на покерстарс, только на старзах есть стрики длительностью более 1000 турниров. так что данные все лживы, у них есть списки: попав в этот список ты будешь проигрывать, это уже в клиенте (верней на сервере) вбито, так что опасно вообще играть на этом сайте! они так типа баланс делаю между фишами и регами, что бы реги быстро не выигрывали деньги фишей, и молотили старзам больше рейка

[cokeb...@gmail.com]

Hallo Tony im a player on pokerstars and i can say the State and system on pokerstars is rigged try to make some states on last card win/loses on pokerstars and you see that its rigged because i have just played and hour in that hour i lost 100usd on last cards the most of the times and my last hand was all in had 65 agianst 77 and 88 flop xx667 lose 10usd so the chance of a 7 is under 7% so try to tell me about that in states

[zorm...@hotmail.com]

i will give my life away if this pokerstars is legit.
the day will come and jokerstars will get their "bad beat"...

[da_fr...@hotmail.com]

Yup. Definitely a scam site. If u watch closly u can even see the river card "hesitate" for a moment. It's thinking of what card is needed to beat the guy with the lower stack. If your not way ahead at the start then do not expect to win. Big stack rules. Makes sense from a business perspective. The more games they can turn over the more money they make!!! Playing real life poker is in no way similar to jokerstars. After 15 years at the table u really notice that AA isn't cracked that many times. No more deposits for this guy!! Good luck to the suckers :)