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BillB
Apr 20, 2013, 5:25:51 PM4/20/13
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It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
was a radical and a threat.
The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
American businessmen?
To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass. They aren't
watching much of ANYTHING, let alone you, and therein lies the problem.
They are engaging in a multi-billion dollar high profile public
relations scheme that they know is pretty much useless, just to make
people feel safe (albeit angry and inconvenienced at the same time).
Obama needs to get his guys to start REALLY checking out people like
Tsarnaev, and risky.
I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
was a radical and a threat.
The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
American businessmen?
To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass. They aren't
watching much of ANYTHING, let alone you, and therein lies the problem.
They are engaging in a multi-billion dollar high profile public
relations scheme that they know is pretty much useless, just to make
people feel safe (albeit angry and inconvenienced at the same time).
Obama needs to get his guys to start REALLY checking out people like
Tsarnaev, and risky.
popinjay999
Apr 20, 2013, 7:29:42 PM4/20/13
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On Apr 20, 2:25 pm, BillB <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
> It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> was a radical and a threat.
>
Then why can't they just SAY Russia?
> It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> was a radical and a threat.
>
By the way, Russia is a radical and a threat.
Von Fourche
Apr 20, 2013, 11:05:05 PM4/20/13
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"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message news:kkv0v7$f4t$1...@dont-email.me...
screw thing up.
razzo...@gmail.com
Apr 21, 2013, 12:21:39 AM4/21/13
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Whale, they should have water boarded him.
:)
:)
O-PGManager
Apr 21, 2013, 12:29:18 AM4/21/13
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On Apr 20 2013 5:25 PM, BillB wrote:
> It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> was a radical and a threat.
>
> The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
>
> How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> American businessmen?
>
> To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
Says the guy who supports the 7 country drone bombing goat herder murder
> It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> was a radical and a threat.
>
> The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
>
> How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> American businessmen?
>
> To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
campaign. How much did all that bombing help us here?
> not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass. They aren't
> watching much of ANYTHING, let alone you, and therein lies the problem.
> They are engaging in a multi-billion dollar high profile public
> relations scheme that they know is pretty much useless, just to make
> people feel safe (albeit angry and inconvenienced at the same time).
>
> Obama needs to get his guys to start REALLY checking out people like
> Tsarnaev, and risky.
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator Emeritus (2009-2011)
O-PGManager
Apr 21, 2013, 12:42:12 AM4/21/13
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On Apr 20 2013 5:25 PM, BillB wrote:
> It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> was a radical and a threat.
>
> The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
>
> How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> American businessmen?
>
> To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
> not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass.
Recognizing that the NSA is storing trillions of electronic communications
> I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> was a radical and a threat.
>
> The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
>
> How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> American businessmen?
>
> To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
> not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass.
is paranoia? You're right that most people, including terrorists aren't
being watched - but you can be damn sure the average occupy wall street
organizer is.
> They aren't
> watching much of ANYTHING, let alone you, and therein lies the problem.
> They are engaging in a multi-billion dollar high profile public
> relations scheme that they know is pretty much useless, just to make
> people feel safe (albeit angry and inconvenienced at the same time).
>
> Obama needs to get his guys to start REALLY checking out people like
> Tsarnaev, and risky.
risky biz
Apr 21, 2013, 1:33:13 AM4/21/13
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terrorist attacks to turn America into a police state for the purpose of
having dictatorial influence over the average American and that "fighting"
terrorism is just a sham front.
VegasJerry
Apr 21, 2013, 12:44:20 PM4/21/13
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On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:25:51 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> was a radical and a threat.
>
> The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
Actually, they did.
> It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> was a radical and a threat.
>
> The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
> How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> American businessmen?
>
> To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
> not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass. They aren't
> watching much of ANYTHING, let alone you, and therein lies the problem.
> They are engaging in a multi-billion dollar high profile public
> relations scheme that they know is pretty much useless, just to make
> people feel safe (albeit angry and inconvenienced at the same time).
>
> Obama needs to get his guys to start REALLY checking out people like
> Tsarnaev, and risky.
The FBI (and virtually any police investigating agency) must have probable cause (PC) for each additional step (depth) of its investigation. At a local level (mine) when I stopped a car, I could not search it without PC. If I smelled marijuana, I could then search the auto for such. Yet I could not search his wallet. The various limits and controls were followed by the FBI in the case of this kid. And pressure from the American public to "Limit the Police" leaves only the public itself to blame or champion.
Jerry 'n Vegas
"I am a racist. I hate niggers and spics and slants. I was born here. We are not Africans. They stand on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: These knuckleheads say, Why you ain't, Where you is, What he drive, Where he stay, Where he work, Who you be... These lower economic people are not holding up their end. These People put their clothes on backward, their hats on backward, pants down around the crack. With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap. The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans. What part of Africa did they come from? We have got to take the neighborhoods back. I should have included kikes and lesbos too. Put all of them are in jail."
-- Susan the right-wing racist (April 11, 10:50 am)
Hollis2
Apr 21, 2013, 9:28:21 PM4/21/13
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On Apr 21 2013 12:42 AM, O-PGManager wrote:
> On Apr 20 2013 5:25 PM, BillB wrote:
>
> > It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> > I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> > was a radical and a threat.
> >
> > The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> > AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> > six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> > Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
> >
> > How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> > when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> > at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> > American businessmen?
> >
> > To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
> > not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> > Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass.
>
> Recognizing that the NSA is storing trillions of electronic communications
> is paranoia? You're right that most people, including terrorists aren't
> being watched - but you can be damn sure the average occupy wall street
> organizer is.
Whatever happened to OWS?
> On Apr 20 2013 5:25 PM, BillB wrote:
>
> > It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> > I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> > was a radical and a threat.
> >
> > The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> > AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> > six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> > Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
> >
> > How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> > when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> > at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> > American businessmen?
> >
> > To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
> > not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> > Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass.
>
> Recognizing that the NSA is storing trillions of electronic communications
> is paranoia? You're right that most people, including terrorists aren't
> being watched - but you can be damn sure the average occupy wall street
> organizer is.
Travel A
Apr 22, 2013, 1:59:38 AM4/22/13
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OT: Obama admin drops ball on Boston bombers
Group: rec.gambling.poker
Date: Sat, Apr 20, 2013, 2:25pm
From: BillB <bo...@shaw1.ca>
Ummm, you don't seem to "get it." It's the Obama administration policy
to be soft on the "War On Terrorism. The didn't "drop the ball," they're
not even "playing" in the first place.
Truthseeker
Apr 22, 2013, 11:35:35 AM4/22/13
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On 4/21/13 7:28 PM, Hollis2 wrote:
> On Apr 21 2013 12:42 AM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
>> Recognizing that the NSA is storing trillions of electronic communications
>> is paranoia? You're right that most people, including terrorists aren't
>> being watched - but you can be damn sure the average occupy wall street
>> organizer is.
>
> Whatever happened to OWS?
They ran out of beer.
> On Apr 21 2013 12:42 AM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
>> Recognizing that the NSA is storing trillions of electronic communications
>> is paranoia? You're right that most people, including terrorists aren't
>> being watched - but you can be damn sure the average occupy wall street
>> organizer is.
>
> Whatever happened to OWS?
--
Truthseeker
"On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog."
VegasJerry
Apr 22, 2013, 3:10:39 PM4/22/13
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On Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:28:21 PM UTC-7, Hollis2 wrote:
> On Apr 21 2013 12:42 AM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
> > On Apr 20 2013 5:25 PM, BillB wrote:
> >
> > > It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> > > I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> > > was a radical and a threat.
> > >
> > > The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> > > AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> > > six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> > > Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
> > >
> > > How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> > > when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> > > at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> > > American businessmen?
> > >
> > > To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
> > > not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> > > Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass.
> >
> > Recognizing that the NSA is storing trillions of electronic communications
> > is paranoia? You're right that most people, including terrorists aren't
> > being watched - but you can be damn sure the average occupy wall street
> > organizer is.
.
> On Apr 21 2013 12:42 AM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
> > On Apr 20 2013 5:25 PM, BillB wrote:
> >
> > > It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> > > I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> > > was a radical and a threat.
> > >
> > > The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> > > AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> > > six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> > > Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
> > >
> > > How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> > > when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> > > at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> > > American businessmen?
> > >
> > > To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
> > > not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> > > Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass.
> >
> > Recognizing that the NSA is storing trillions of electronic communications
> > is paranoia? You're right that most people, including terrorists aren't
> > being watched - but you can be damn sure the average occupy wall street
> > organizer is.
.> Whatever happened to OWS?
We succeeded in getting rule changes on Wall Street. Now it's the Republicans crying about 'restrictions and regulations,' preventing them from "Doing American's work." (Take unnecessary risks, knowing the taxpayer will bail them out).
"I am a racist. I hate niggers and spics and slants. I was born here. We are not Africans. They stand on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: These knuckleheads say, Why you ain't, Where you is, What he drive, Where he stay, Where he work, Who you be... These lower economic people are not holding up their end. These People put their clothes on backward, their hats on backward, pants down around the crack. With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap. The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans. What part of Africa did they come from? We have got to take the neighborhoods back. I should have included kikes and lesbos too. Put all of them are in jail."
-- Susan the right-wing racist (April 11, 10:50 am)
>
risky biz
Apr 23, 2013, 4:22:43 PM4/23/13
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On Apr 21 2013 9:44 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
> The FBI (and virtually any police investigating agency) must have probable
cause (PC) for each
> additional step (depth) of its investigation. At a local level (mine) when I
stopped a car, I could
> not search it without PC. If I smelled marijuana, I could then search the
auto for such. Yet I could
> not search his wallet. The various limits and controls were followed by the
FBI in the case of this
> kid. And pressure from the American public to "Limit the Police" leaves only
the public itself to
> blame or champion.
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
Let's set aside Jerry's bedtime story and look at what actually happened.
> The FBI (and virtually any police investigating agency) must have probable
cause (PC) for each
> additional step (depth) of its investigation. At a local level (mine) when I
stopped a car, I could
> not search it without PC. If I smelled marijuana, I could then search the
auto for such. Yet I could
> not search his wallet. The various limits and controls were followed by the
FBI in the case of this
> kid. And pressure from the American public to "Limit the Police" leaves only
the public itself to
> blame or champion.
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
The FBI interviewed the father and told him, "We're watching everything
your family does. We read your e-mail and watch everything you do on the
internet." The father said, "Good. They're doing their job." He got the
second part wrong. If someone was contemplating doing something illegal
they would think, "Thanks for the warning."
Does anyone think that the FBI and the 1984 crew don't benefit from actual
terrorist attacks?
risky biz
Apr 23, 2013, 4:24:57 PM4/23/13
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On Apr 20 2013 2:25 PM, BillB wrote:
> Obama needs to get his guys to start REALLY checking out people like
> Tsarnaev, and risky.
There you go, BillB. Back to the Risky is al-Qaeda defense. You're butt
> Obama needs to get his guys to start REALLY checking out people like
> Tsarnaev, and risky.
hurt bad. Take an aspirin.
VegasJerry
Apr 23, 2013, 4:48:23 PM4/23/13
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On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:22:43 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
> On Apr 21 2013 9:44 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > The FBI (and virtually any police investigating agency) must have probable
> cause (PC) for each
> > additional step (depth) of its investigation. At a local level (mine) when I
> stopped a car, I could
> > not search it without PC. If I smelled marijuana, I could then search the
> auto for such. Yet I could
> > not search his wallet. The various limits and controls were followed by the
> FBI in the case of this
> > kid. And pressure from the American public to "Limit the Police" leaves only
> the public itself to
> > blame or champion.
> >
> > Jerry 'n Vegas
.
> On Apr 21 2013 9:44 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > The FBI (and virtually any police investigating agency) must have probable
> cause (PC) for each
> > additional step (depth) of its investigation. At a local level (mine) when I
> stopped a car, I could
> > not search it without PC. If I smelled marijuana, I could then search the
> auto for such. Yet I could
> > not search his wallet. The various limits and controls were followed by the
> FBI in the case of this
> > kid. And pressure from the American public to "Limit the Police" leaves only
> the public itself to
> > blame or champion.
> >
> > Jerry 'n Vegas
.> Let's set aside Jerry's bedtime story…
It's another way for you do dodge facts. But it is, as I, and the FBI, said.
ChrisRobin
Apr 23, 2013, 5:31:20 PM4/23/13
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O-PGManager
Apr 29, 2013, 2:33:46 PM4/29/13
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On Apr 21 2013 9:28 PM, Hollis2 wrote:
> On Apr 21 2013 12:42 AM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
> > On Apr 20 2013 5:25 PM, BillB wrote:
> >
> > > It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> > > I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> > > was a radical and a threat.
> > >
> > > The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> > > AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> > > six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> > > Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
> > >
> > > How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> > > when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> > > at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> > > American businessmen?
> > >
> > > To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
> > > not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> > > Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass.
> >
> > Recognizing that the NSA is storing trillions of electronic communications
> > is paranoia? You're right that most people, including terrorists aren't
> > being watched - but you can be damn sure the average occupy wall street
> > organizer is.
>
> Whatever happened to OWS?
They were violently evicted by a federally organized police state
> On Apr 21 2013 12:42 AM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
> > On Apr 20 2013 5:25 PM, BillB wrote:
> >
> > > It has been widely reported that an unnamed foreign government (Russia,
> > > I'm guessing) warned the US that the older bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev,
> > > was a radical and a threat.
> > >
> > > The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and decided he was nothing to worry about.
> > > AFTER that, Tsarnaev traveled to the Chechnya region where he stayed for
> > > six months. When he returned, he was suddenly posting al-qaeda and
> > > Chechnyan terrorist fanboy video(s) on youtube. The FBI never noticed.
> > >
> > > How does all this go unnoticed? How does it justifiably go unnoticed
> > > when they are wasting millions of man hours frisking American grannies
> > > at the airport, and confiscating toothpaste and nail clippers from
> > > American businessmen?
> > >
> > > To me this illustrates an almost farcical misallocation of resources --
> > > not to mention the absurd paranoia of ordinary Americans who think Big
> > > Brother is taking notes every time they wipe their ass.
> >
> > Recognizing that the NSA is storing trillions of electronic communications
> > is paranoia? You're right that most people, including terrorists aren't
> > being watched - but you can be damn sure the average occupy wall street
> > organizer is.
>
> Whatever happened to OWS?
operation.
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