why morons always win
thedarkman
http://www.sendspace.com/file/42oyt4
Pre-flop this moron is 22.8 percent with 7.88 to tie. After the flop
he is 2.42% with 13.33% to tie. How much more can any player ask for?
He calls an all-in with second pair on that board, less than one
chance in forty of winning the hand, and outdraws me.
This is what the poker books and all the so-called pros never tell
you, and why poker is a game for morons and broken hearts. That is the
third terrible bad beat I've had today albeit the worst by far. Heck,
how much worse could it be?
ramashiva
> check this out
> http://www.sendspace.com/file/42oyt4
This is a garden variety bad beat, nothing more.
After the flop, the worst possible bad beat is 989 to 1. This
situation arises when your opponent can only win by drawing two
specific cards on the turn and river. For example --
AK versus 22 with a flop of AAK. Running deuces wins for 22.
These things happen. If you play poker long enough, you will see
everything sooner or later.
Even extreme bad beats are inevitable. Why get upset over what is
inevitable?
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Monty_Burns
If you want to avoid situations like this, whenever you know you have
the best hand you should reveal it to the table so they don't call
your bets.
thedarkman
forty to one is very, very bad. If you can't win when you're that big
a favourite when can you?
Will in New Haven
What the poker books don't tell you is that there is one guy who is
going to lose in many more of these situations than he should. I am so
glad it is you and not me.
--
Will in New Haven
Pepe Papon
Actually, all the poker books tell you this. That's why poker
decisions are discussed in terms of odds and probabilities.
--
~ Seth Jackson
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Tim Norfolk
Based on simple probabilities, it is quite possible that the best
poker player of all time quit too soon to be successful, because they
took too many beats in the first 6 months.
misanthropic whackjob
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:48:52 -0800 (PST), thedarkman
> <A_B...@ABaron.Demon.Co.UK> wrote:
>
> >check this out
> >
> >http://www.sendspace.com/file/42oyt4
> >
> >Pre-flop this moron is 22.8 percent with 7.88 to tie. After the flop
> >he is 2.42% with 13.33% to tie. How much more can any player ask for?
> >He calls an all-in with second pair on that board, less than one
> >chance in forty of winning the hand, and outdraws me.
> >
> >This is what the poker books and all the so-called pros never tell
> >you, and why poker is a game for morons and broken hearts. That is the
> >third terrible bad beat I've had today albeit the worst by far. Heck,
> >how much worse could it be?
>
> Actually, all the poker books tell you this. That's why poker
> decisions are discussed in terms of odds and probabilities.
> --
Believe it or not poker has helped me IRL quite a bit. Once I make a
decision, I am happy to live with the outcome. Thinking back "I should
have..." doesn't enter into it anymore, other than to help me make a
better decision next time.
> ~ Seth Jackson
>
> MySpace URL - http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong
> Songwriting and Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net
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>
> Believe it or not poker has helped me IRL quite a bit. Once I make a
> decision, I am happy to live with the outcome. Thinking back "I should
> have..." doesn't enter into it anymore, other than to help me make a
> better decision next time.
>
Mike Caro teaches a great lesson about decisions. If you have not heard
him, I will relate it to you. He sets up one example where an alien monster
is going to flip a coin to see whther you live or die. Then, the second
example involves a sizeable business investment. Caro says that you should
spend ZERO time thinking about the coin flip whether you live or die,
because your decision does not matter. He says, sure, the consequence of
the coin flip is important to you, because heads you live, and tails you
die. But the decision of whether to call heads or tails is merely an
unimportant decision which happens to have an important consequence. So you
should spend zero time deciding whther to call heads or tails, and spend ALL
your effort thinking about the business investment, should you be lucky
enough to win the coin flip.
Pretty cool, eh?
Clave
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<...>
> Mike Caro teaches a great lesson about decisions. If you have not heard
> him, I will relate it to you. He sets up one example where an alien
> monster is going to flip a coin to see whther you live or die. Then, the
> second example involves a sizeable business investment. Caro says that
> you should spend ZERO time thinking about the coin flip whether you live
> or die, because your decision does not matter. He says, sure, the
> consequence of the coin flip is important to you, because heads you live,
> and tails you die. But the decision of whether to call heads or tails is
> merely an unimportant decision which happens to have an important
> consequence. So you should spend zero time deciding whther to call heads
> or tails, and spend ALL your effort thinking about the business
> investment, should you be lucky enough to win the coin flip.
>
> Pretty cool, eh?
This is a Great Insight?
Jim
Paul Popinjay
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>
> This is a Great Insight?
>
> Jim
>
You may know a lot about computers and stuff, Clave, but you seem to be a
little behind in the gaming department, and it would do you good to study
that guy's writings. I don't know if you are being straight with me or
being sarcastic, but if you are serious about gaming, then skip his writings
at your own loss.
Clave
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hevnuq$tva$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
<...don't waste time thinking about coin-flip decisions...>
>> This is a Great Insight?
>
> You may know a lot about computers and stuff, Clave, but you seem to be a
> little behind in the gaming department, and it would do you good to study
> that guy's writings...
I'm well aware of his work, as I am Brunson's, Sklansky's, Harrington's, et
al's. I'll get through em all eventually.
I'm still at a loss as to what the big deal was about the coin flip thing.
Maybe there's some Zen nuance I'm overlooking, but it seems pretty bloody
obvious to me.
Jim
Paul Popinjay
>
> I'm well aware of his work,
Then have you just not arrived at this lesson yet? Because it's not as
lackluster as I made it sound. I cannot do justice by describing what this
brilliant man writes about, because I am not a brilliant man. Don't read
what I say, read what he says.
I guess it's like telling a joke you heard from someone else. I can't tell
it right. Trust me, there was more to it.
Clave
I told you -- it just seems obvious to me. Maybe I'm as smart as he is.
BTW, you sound just like Dennis Hopper's character in "Apocalypse Now".
Jim
Paul Popinjay
>
> I told you -- it just seems obvious to me. Maybe I'm as smart as he is.
>
> BTW, you sound just like Dennis Hopper's character in "Apocalypse Now".
>
> Jim
>
Well maybe you are as smart as he is then.
I must be getting old, I don't remember Dennis Hopper in that movie.
If I remind you of Dennis Hopper in a movie, this clip will really mimic me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PnAymHAHk
Clave
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hevq06$e6b$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>
>> I told you -- it just seems obvious to me. Maybe I'm as smart as he is.
>>
>> BTW, you sound just like Dennis Hopper's character in "Apocalypse Now".
>
>
> I must be getting old, I don't remember Dennis Hopper in that movie.
Are you fucking kidding me? Have you even *seen* "Apocalypse Now"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAixFYnDh4
Jim
BillB
"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> If I remind you of Dennis Hopper in a movie, this clip will really
> mimic me.
He played the crazy photographer in Kurtz's camp.
Paul Popinjay
>
> Are you fucking kidding me? Have you even *seen* "Apocalypse Now"?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAixFYnDh4
>
> Jim
>
What can I say, I don't remember him. I'm a burn-out, what do you want from
me?
If I recall, Apocalypse came out in like 78 or 79. I was going through my
own little apocalypse.
Dave the Clueless
You lost the hand, proving your premise wrong.
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Will in New Haven
wrote:
> "misanthropic whackjob" <acae...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
I thought I had read every great idea that the Mad Genius ever wrote
and you come up with a new one.
Excellent.
MrBookworm
> he is 2.42% with 13.33% to tie. How much more can any player ask for?
You can ask for 100% for you to win after the flop. Get it in like that
and you won't have to post here about it.
Dean
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phlash74
> > Pre-flop this moron is 22.8 percent with 7.88 to tie. After the flop
> > he is 2.42% with 13.33% to tie. How much more can any player ask for?
>
> You can ask for 100% for you to win after the flop. Get it in like that
> and you won't have to post here about it.
>
> Dean
>
> --
> "You think that's bad? Sometimes I think about RGP when I'm having sex."
> - Paul Popinjay 3/16/2009
Or better yet, play Razz for a while. You'll be begging to take beats
like the one in the OP after a couple hours with that godforsaken abortion
of a poker game, or else you'll kill yourself.
Either way, we won't have to hear you whine anymore.
Michael
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