Christmas riight around the corner why the hate
Arlo-Payne
It seems the hate kool aid is over flowing these days at RGP,
Me I guess I will just fly up to Vegas for a few days so I will not be
tempted to read RGP. All this hate seems like one can catch it and I
don't want it.
All we need is love
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Alim Nassor
What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
another day to hate on everyone.
K9way
> Damn!
> It seems the hate kool aid is over flowing these days at RGP,
>
> Me I guess I will just fly up to Vegas for a few days so I will not be
> tempted to read RGP. All this hate seems like one can catch it and I
> don't want it.
>
> All we need is love
I guess it is safe to assume that you will give a "pass" to all your
employees you fucked by indenturing them with bad auto loans , on this
holiday ?
or was that something else that "didnt happen " ?
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
ChrisRobin
> On Nov 25, 12:39�pm, "Arlo-Payne" <arlo_pa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Damn!
> > It seems the hate kool aid is over flowing these days at RGP,
> >
> > Me I guess I will just fly up to Vegas for a few days so I will not be
> > tempted to read RGP. �All this hate seems like one can catch it and I
> > don't want it.
> >
> > All we need is love
> >
> What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
> another day to hate on everyone.
Quick, somebody call the waaaaaambulence!
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> What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
> another day to hate on everyone.
I am not a Christian, though I think the message of Social Justice that
is taught by Christ to be a beautiful moral system. Too bad most
"Christians don't follow it".
At any rate. For the fucking presents. It matters for the god damn
presents. Getting up at six oclock in the morning to see what SANTA
brought. For me, for my kids. And not a fucking Jesus in the house.
But A lovely Chocolate Orange in the stocking! Hell Ya!
K9way
> On Nov 25, 12:39�pm, "Arlo-Payne" <arlo_pa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Damn!
> > It seems the hate kool aid is over flowing these days at RGP,
> >
> > Me I guess I will just fly up to Vegas for a few days so I will not be
> > tempted to read RGP. �All this hate seems like one can catch it and I
> > don't want it.
> >
> > All we need is love
> >
> What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
> another day to hate on everyone.
So , I guess the 'Christian Right ' will sit down with gays and atheists
and feast with them on this day , and save their hate for the other 364
days ?
You know ....FAMILY
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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FL Turbo
wrote:
>Alim Nassor wrote:
>
>> What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
>> another day to hate on everyone.
>
>I am not a Christian, though I think the message of Social Justice that
>is taught by Christ to be a beautiful moral system. Too bad most
>"Christians don't follow it".
>
"social justice", eh?
Does that mean there is such a thing as "unsocial" justice?
How are we all expected to know the difference?
Who do we have to ask to explain what is Social Justice is vs Unsocial
justice?
Frankly, my boy.
I don't trust anyone to tell me just exactly what is social or
unsocial.
>At any rate. For the fucking presents. It matters for the god damn
>presents. Getting up at six oclock in the morning to see what SANTA
>brought. For me, for my kids. And not a fucking Jesus in the house.
>But A lovely Chocolate Orange in the stocking! Hell Ya!
There ya go.
Clave
news:b9b66cd6-7daa-46bb...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
<...>
> What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
> another day to hate on everyone.
I can feel the Christian love for one's fellow man just *dripping* from this
post.
Jim
johnny_t
> Frankly, my boy.
> I don't trust anyone to tell me just exactly what is social or
> unsocial.
So you aren't a Christian? Or you don't take the word of God?
BTW, social justice, doesn't imply unsocial justice, per se. Evil is
good enough for whatever it is you think you are implying.
FL Turbo
wrote:
>On Nov 25 2009 12:25 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
>> On Nov 25, 12:39�pm, "Arlo-Payne" <arlo_pa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Damn!
>> > It seems the hate kool aid is over flowing these days at RGP,
>> >
>> > Me I guess I will just fly up to Vegas for a few days so I will not be
>> > tempted to read RGP. �All this hate seems like one can catch it and I
>> > don't want it.
>> >
>> > All we need is love
>> >
>> What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
>> another day to hate on everyone.
>
>So , I guess the 'Christian Right ' will sit down with gays and atheists
>and feast with them on this day , and save their hate for the other 364
>days ?
>
>You know ....FAMILY
>
It appears that you think family members hate each other 364 days out
of the year.
I'm sure glad I'm not a member of your family.
Arlo-Payne
> On Nov 24 2009 11:39 PM, Arlo-Payne wrote:
>
> > Damn!
> > It seems the hate kool aid is over flowing these days at RGP,
> >
> > Me I guess I will just fly up to Vegas for a few days so I will not be
> > tempted to read RGP. All this hate seems like one can catch it and I
> > don't want it.
> >
> > All we need is love
>
> I guess it is safe to assume that you will give a "pass" to all your
> employees you fucked by indenturing them with bad auto loans , on this
> holiday ?
>
> or was that something else that "didnt happen " ?
>
>
> Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
> does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
No way in hell they are all behind on their payments and some still owe
for the air in the tires.
K9way
Not 1/2 as glad as I am ..
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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See now .. in all the turmoil ..that is actually funny !!
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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Paul Popinjay
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>
> I am not a Christian, though I think the message of Social Justice that is
> taught by Christ to be a beautiful moral system. Too bad most "Christians
> don't follow it".
>
I guess this finally clears up the fact that you are a fucking communist.
In the past it has not been exactly clear that you are so far on the Left
but rather it seemed like you were basically just a confused and
fucked-up-in-the-head dude. But this explains it. Even if you do not
claim commie, you have definitely buried yourself in communist literature,
with your "social justice" crappola. No wonder you are so much for the fed
in the other thread, because you commies like central government. By the
way, fuck face, Christ was not a commie. You non-Christians sure like to
spout off a lot about what you think Christians are supposed to believe in.
Being a Christian does not mean you have to turn the other cheek all the
time, maybe that's you people making shit up again but just because we like
to feed the homeless and stuff does not mean that we cannot put a good
Christian boot in some non-Christian ass, especially at Christmas time,
hallelujah.
Paul Popinjay
news:q4uut6x...@recgroups.com...
>
> So , I guess the 'Christian Right ' will sit down with gays and atheists
> and feast with them on this day , and save their hate for the other 364
> days ?
>
It sure seems like you non-Christians know a lot about Christians and are
always claiming what our beliefs are but hate is a normal human emotion and
you act like Christians cannot hate but we can hate just like any one else,
especially we hate when non-Christians say that things we do not hate are
actually hate, which is hateful on your parts, which we hate. It's pretty
brave of non-Christians to talk shit about how Christians are full of hate
when it is over the internet but some of us would like to see the
non-Christians say that to our face, especially at Christmas time and show
them what a holly jolly Christmas can be like with a foot in their ass.
Alim Nassor
wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Your complete ignorance of my way of life has been duly noted.
Clave
On Nov 25, 2:06 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b9b66cd6-7daa-46bb...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>
> <...>
>
> > What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
> > another day to hate on everyone.
>
> I can feel the Christian love for one's fellow man just *dripping* from
> this post.
Your complete ignorance of my way of life has been duly noted.
======================================================================
Non sequitur noted.
Oh, and boo-fucking-hoo, ya whiny goddam hypocrite.
Jim
Alim Nassor
wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5737a44e-7f3c-4b5a...@u25g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 25, 2:06 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:b9b66cd6-7daa-46bb...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > <...>
>
> > > What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
> > > another day to hate on everyone.
>
> > I can feel the Christian love for one's fellow man just *dripping* from
> > this post.
>
> Your complete ignorance of my way of life has been duly noted.
>
> ======================================================================
>
> Non sequitur noted.
>
> Oh, and boo-fucking-hoo, ya whiny goddam hypocrite.
>
> Jim
Aw Jimmie, did you forget? Yellow streak out? I guess having the wet
spot in front has made you a bit weepy.
Clave
On Nov 25, 5:05 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5737a44e-7f3c-4b5a...@u25g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 25, 2:06 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:b9b66cd6-7daa-46bb...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > <...>
>
> > > What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
> > > another day to hate on everyone.
>
> > I can feel the Christian love for one's fellow man just *dripping* from
> > this post.
>
> Your complete ignorance of my way of life has been duly noted.
>
> ======================================================================
>
> Non sequitur noted.
>
> Oh, and boo-fucking-hoo, ya whiny goddam hypocrite.
Aw Jimmie, did you forget? Yellow streak out? I guess having the wet
spot in front has made you a bit weepy.
========================================================================
Wow -- who knew your faith was weak enough to be threatened by the likes of
me? You abandoned the point and went juvenile even faster than usual there.
I'm really no threat -- you should get back to growling under your breath
at all the *other* people who don't share your superstitions.
Jim
johnny_t
>
> I guess this finally clears up the fact that you are a fucking communist.
> In the past it has not been exactly clear that you are so far on the Left
> but rather it seemed like you were basically just a confused and
> fucked-up-in-the-head dude. But this explains it. Even if you do not
> claim commie, you have definitely buried yourself in communist literature,
> with your "social justice" crappola. No wonder you are so much for the fed
> in the other thread, because you commies like central government. By the
> way, fuck face, Christ was not a commie. You non-Christians sure like to
> spout off a lot about what you think Christians are supposed to believe in.
> Being a Christian does not mean you have to turn the other cheek all the
> time, maybe that's you people making shit up again but just because we like
> to feed the homeless and stuff does not mean that we cannot put a good
> Christian boot in some non-Christian ass, especially at Christmas time,
> hallelujah.
No, I am not a communist. Cripes I hope you don't play poker with a
read this bad.
But Yeah, I think Christ, Ghandi, and MLK have some things to teach
people. But not a follower of Marx. And definitely against the Soviet
system, the Chinese system, the Cuban system, and even the Kabbutz in
Isreal, and the communes of Northern California. I am young enough,
that it is easy to reject the entire line of thought out of line, simply
due to practical failure.
And I am sure Christ loves your devotion! And really, "fuck face".
that is just not being very nice. WTF?
And no, I just like to tell people who tell ME what to believe in, what
to believe in. And really, physical harm. That doesn't seem very nice
either.
Alim Nassor
>
> - Show quoted text -
Doesn't bother me if someone has different or no beliefs. All I
wondered is why atheists should care about Christmas. As for going
juvenile, no one here beats your kindergarden ass at that.
johnny_t
>
> Doesn't bother me if someone has different or no beliefs. All I
> wondered is why atheists should care about Christmas.
In the world of hypocrisies, ones involving peppermints, sugar plums,
Santa Claus, decorations and prezzies, just seem pretty darn benign.
Happy Holidays!
Jerry Sturdivant
> What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang
> out here? Just another day to hate on everyone.
Well, we do hate the fact you Christians stole our Winter Solstices and
renamed it Christmas. You just couldn't stand any celebrations that didn't
revolve around your superstitions.
Jerry (celebrating anyway) 'n Vegas
- Mary had a little lamb.. and the midwife fainted.
Patrick Karl
Nostalgia. Getting together with family. There are lots of reasons.
You do know that Christ, if born at all, wasn't born at Christmastime,
don't you? The church put Christmas in Winter to compete with a pagan
fest. So it's not really the non-christians who are horning in on your
feast, it's the other way around. So quit your whingeing.
Paul Popinjay
>
> No, I am not a communist. Cripes I hope you don't play poker with a read
> this bad.
>
You're the one spouting communist slogans like "social justice". You
lousy, rotten, stinking, communist!!!
> But Yeah, I think Christ, Ghandi, and MLK have some things to teach
> people. But not a follower of Marx.
Two out of three ain't bad. Ghandi, and MLK, were certainly communists.
And, of course, Christ was an early day Republican, obviously.
And definitely against the Soviet
> system, the Chinese system, the Cuban system, and even the Kabbutz in
> Isreal, and the communes of Northern California. I am young enough, that
> it is easy to reject the entire line of thought out of line, simply due to
> practical failure.
>
> And I am sure Christ loves your devotion! And really, "fuck face". that
> is just not being very nice. WTF?
>
> And no, I just like to tell people who tell ME what to believe in, what
> to believe in.
Christians aren't telling you what to do. Why do you think you are that
important? I would guess that most Christians do not give a fuck what you
do. Just don't rob a church.
> And really, physical harm. That doesn't seem very nice either.
Neither you nor Doggystyle can show me anywhere in the Bible where it says
that Christians cannot kick some ass if they're having a bad day or if
someone cuts them off on the road or something. The meek will inherit a
black eye.
Paul Popinjay
> Doesn't bother me if someone has different or no beliefs. All I
> wondered is why atheists should care about Christmas. As for going
> juvenile, no one here beats your kindergarden ass at that.
I posted a lengthy thread last year questioning the same thing, Alim. It's
true. These people want to be athiests but then enjoy Christmas too. They
are greedy, hateful, party-crashing hypocrites. Why don't they get their
own holiday? It never stops. And look at this moron, Patrick, comes out of
the woodwork with how Christ was not born on Christmas. He's looking to
ruffle your feathers by somehow thinking he is spoiling our holiday. What
is with these people? These are some sick people in some sick times. They
get a real kick out of dissing Christmas, but still they want to take the
day off and get presents and shit.
Beldin the Sorcerer
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>
>
K9way
So ..I assume that no Christians participate in Trick-or-treat ?
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
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> Damn!
> It seems the hate kool aid is over flowing these days at RGP,
>
> Me I guess I will just fly up to Vegas for a few days so I will not be
> tempted to read RGP. All this hate seems like one can catch it and I
> don't want it.
>
> All we need is love
How can you love someone you never met? THAT is the problem. I can
barely STAND 98% of the people on here 1% I tolerate and the the other 1%
I would probably be friends with if I 'knew' them.
You're looking for love in all the wrong places Arlo.
That being said:
HAPPY HOLIDAYS! (The only reason I didnt say 'Merry Christmas' is
because it is still too far away, but it is the 'Holiday' Season.
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nor will I consider you necessarily wise because you are grave.
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John_Brian_K
> always claiming what our beliefs are but hate is a normal human emotion and
> you act like Christians cannot hate but we can hate just like any one else,
> especially we hate when non-Christians say that things we do not hate are
> actually hate, which is hateful on your parts, which we hate. It's pretty
> brave of non-Christians to talk shit about how Christians are full of hate
> when it is over the internet but some of us would like to see the
> non-Christians say that to our face, especially at Christmas time and show
> them what a holly jolly Christmas can be like with a foot in their ass.
LOL
PeePee! My man!
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nor will I consider you necessarily wise because you are grave.
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"FL Turbo" <noe...@notime.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:55:23 -0800, johnny_t <nobo...@home.com>
> "social justice", eh?
> Does that mean there is such a thing as "unsocial" justice?
> How are we all expected to know the difference?
> Who do we have to ask to explain what is Social Justice is vs
> Unsocial
> justice?
Uhhh, the opposite of social justice would be social injustice.
Social (i.e. relating to society) is a constant. Hope this helps.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Paul Popinjay"
>> And no, I just like to tell people who tell ME
>> what to believe in, what to believe in.
> Christians aren't telling you what to do.
The hell they aren�t. They�re telling us to add, �under god� when we try to
pledge allegiance to our flag. They tell us we have to have, in god we
trust, on our coins. They tell women they can�t get an abortion. The tell
people they can�t have doctor assisted suicide.
Why do we have to educate you religious folks?
Jerry �n Vegas
- Marriage makes a life of deception a necessity.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Paul Popinjay"
> I posted a lengthy thread last year questioning the same
> thing, Alim. It's true. These people want to be athiests
> but then enjoy Christmas too.
Bullshit. We want to enjoy Winter Solstice without you forcing religious
crap on us.
> Why don't they get their own holiday?
We did; you assholes stole it.
Jerry �n Vegas
- Refuse Novocain . . . transcend dental medication!
johnny_t
>
> You're the one spouting communist slogans like "social justice". You
> lousy, rotten, stinking, communist!!!
You're full of crap. These two things do not necessarily follow.
Social Justice is the ongoing struggle against the institutional
oppression of the Man. Nothing at all to do with communism. Except
possibly in a marketing sense. Capitalism, also shares this marketing
sense. The ones that don't are royalty and caste systems, systems that
are based on xenophobia (pretty much anyone who has celebrated genetic
cleansing or genocide), hate based systems (which is not so much
brotherhood of love but brotherhood of hate_, and finally superiority
based systems (such as the Nazi Party).
> But Yeah, I think Christ, Ghandi, and MLK have some things to teach
>> people. But not a follower of Marx.
> Two out of three ain't bad. Ghandi, and MLK, were certainly communists.
> And, of course, Christ was an early day Republican, obviously.
No, except maybe from a marketing sense. And they weren't promoting
communism, rather the communist tried to steal the message.
One very interesting point, and where Alan Greenspan finally realized he
was wrong about Lassez Fair capitalism, was that the message of the high
school economics class was right, and that Ayn Rand was wrong. Man has
nearly infinite capability to crime and evil. And that economic
incentive is not enough to dissuade crime, indeed economic incentive can
be twisted to support criminality. That we the people, through the
force of government are forced to keep evil at bay. The message of
Gordon Gecko was misunderstood because he was such a piker. But it is
indeed there.
And he was wrong to utilize the central bank for the direct manipulation
of the marketplace for anything longer than a couple of months, and that
its primary purpose is to "right-size" the money supply. FOR THE
BENEFIT of the bankers, which benefits society. Can't even the
capitalists get that right?
> Christians aren't telling you what to do. Why do you think you are that
> important? I would guess that most Christians do not give a fuck what you
> do. Just don't rob a church.
Not quite. Many Christians have a long, long history and up to the
present day of My way, or death. This is so wrong, and tellingly wrong,
you're either simply ignorant, or lying, which would not be very
"Christian" but certainly very Islamic.
>> And really, physical harm. That doesn't seem very nice either.
> Neither you nor Doggystyle can show me anywhere in the Bible where it says
> that Christians cannot kick some ass if they're having a bad day or if
> someone cuts them off on the road or something. The meek will inherit a
> black eye.
When the hell was I having that argument with you, and I am hardly going
to have a scripture war with you. Go to Sunday school if you're so
interested, or take a comparative religion class or something.
Personally, I am not playing.
Being intentionally mean, is being intentionally mean. I have hardly
cut you off the road. You may be having a bad day. But suck it up and
be nice.
FL Turbo
wrote:
>FL Turbo wrote:
>
>> Frankly, my boy.
>> I don't trust anyone to tell me just exactly what is social or
>> unsocial.
>
>So you aren't a Christian? Or you don't take the word of God?
>
I was raised as a Christian.
I have even read a great deal of the Bible.
Nowhere do I remember Jesus preaching about "social justice".
>BTW, social justice, doesn't imply unsocial justice, per se. Evil is
>good enough for whatever it is you think you are implying.
Actually, the phrase "social justice" is a phrase usually spoken by
Socialists and Commies.
Just plain Justice isn't good enough for them.
They want Social Justice.
Basically, that means they want Justice to mean whatever they say it
means in any particular case.
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Why do lawyers talk about the "true facts"?
Isn't a fact true, simply by definition?
FL Turbo
wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:47:38 -0800, "K9way" <ad1...@webnntp.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Nov 25 2009 1:09 AM, FL Turbo wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:06:50 -0800, "K9way" <ad1...@webnntp.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Nov 25 2009 12:25 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Nov 25, 12:39�pm, "Arlo-Payne" <arlo_pa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Damn!
>>> >> > It seems the hate kool aid is over flowing these days at RGP,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Me I guess I will just fly up to Vegas for a few days so I will not be
>>> >> > tempted to read RGP. �All this hate seems like one can catch it and I
>>> >> > don't want it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > All we need is love
>>> >> >
>>> >> What does Christmas matter to the atheists who hang out here? Just
>>> >> another day to hate on everyone.
>>> >
>>> >So , I guess the 'Christian Right ' will sit down with gays and atheists
>>> >and feast with them on this day , and save their hate for the other 364
>>> >days ?
>>> >
>>> >You know ....FAMILY
>>> >
>>>
>>> It appears that you think family members hate each other 364 days out
>>> of the year.
>>>
>>> I'm sure glad I'm not a member of your family.
>>
>>Not 1/2 as glad as I am ..
>>
I'm 2 � times as glad as you are.
johnny_t
\
> I was raised as a Christian.
> I have even read a great deal of the Bible.
> Nowhere do I remember Jesus preaching about "social justice".
>http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/SFS/an0205.asp
>http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=jesus+and+social+justice&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
FL Turbo
Paul Popinjay
>
> So ..I assume that no Christians participate in Trick-or-treat ?
>
Well, they probably do, but they shouldn't. I know I don't. I have always
been against the Holloween ritual. That holiday was meant for your kind.
Paul Popinjay
>
> You're full of crap. These two things do not necessarily follow.
>
> Social Justice is the ongoing struggle against the institutional
> oppression of the Man. Nothing at all to do with communism.
That IS communism, you stupid mutherfucker. "Social justice" is a communist
buzz phrase. Communist literature is filled with terms like "social
justice". And, of course, the communists murdered millions. Nice going,
sparky, there's your social justice for you, you hypocrite.
It's funny how you say that I am full of crap, yet it is morons like you and
Pepe Papon who are the full of crap ones. And you guys went to school, I
didn't. So what's your excuse? I know a lot of things that you guys are
clueless about, yet I didn't get past 8th grade. What's up with that,
anyway? How are you guys are so fucking stupid, especially compared to me,
when you went to school and I didn't? You guys ought ask for your money
back.
Paul Popinjay
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>
> "Paul Popinjay"
>
>> Christians aren't telling you what to do.
>
> The hell they aren't. They're telling us to add, "under god" when we try
> to pledge allegiance to our flag. They tell us we have to have, in god we
> trust, on our coins. They tell women they can't get an abortion. They tell
> people they can't have doctor assisted suicide.
>
Did any of them ever tell you to go fuck yourself?
johnny_t
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Oj0-splZw&feature=player_embedded
johnny_t
> "johnny_t" <nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:00c68b48$0$6572$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>> You're full of crap. These two things do not necessarily follow.
>>
>> Social Justice is the ongoing struggle against the institutional
>> oppression of the Man. Nothing at all to do with communism.
>
>
> That IS communism, you stupid mutherfucker. "Social justice" is a communist
> buzz phrase.
I don't give a fuck that the communists appropriated the phrase. I am
not a communist. And I am not going to condemn "social justice" because
communism is worth condemning. Social justice predates communism some
would say by Millenia. I don't condemn forks, cuz the communists used
forks.
I don't condemn capitalism, because Ayn Rand is worth condemning.
That is your problem, you can't see the good ideas, so you hide yourself
from education and maintain your ignorance, if your ignorant, you won't
know what's wrong.
You Ignoramous.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Paul Popinjay"
>>> Christians aren't telling you what to do.
>> The hell they aren't. They're telling us to add, "under god"
>> when we try to pledge allegiance to our flag. They tell us
>> we have to have, in god we trust, on our coins. They tell
>> women they can't get an abortion. They tell people they
>> can't have doctor assisted suicide.
> Did any of them ever tell you to go fuck yourself?
Not that I recall; but I do a search and report back.
Jerry (I�m searching) �n Vegas
- Deja Moo - the feeling you've heard this bull before
Follow
> Why don't they get their
> own holiday?
Hate to say it Paul, but Christians were the ones who stole Christmas.
It had been celebrated for centuries before Christians as the Winter
Solstice (Yule, by Wiccans). Also, every other important Christian
holiday revolves around Pagan holidays. Halloween is Samhain, and
Easter is Beltan (all of these names are the ones used by Wiccans, in
Gaelic). Easter goes so far as to celebrate with painted eggs and
rabbits. Ever wonder why that is? Painted eggs and rabbits have
nothing to do with Christ or the resurrection, and everything to do with
the fertility that Beltan represents, a carryover from a purely Pagan
(in this case, Wiccan) practice.
The reason for all of this is that Pagans were the main competition for
Christians back when Christianity got its start. As such, the Christian
propaganda machine (very intelligently) coordinated their holidays to
overlap holidays being celebrated by Pagans already, holidays that
people had been celebrating for centuries. That way, the Christians
could make the Pagans transition from their religion more easily, and
also tell some of the lesser informed members of the religion that they
were really celebrating the same holidays.
Christ's birth (or at least the stated time period of it) was a
marketing scheme. Things haven't changed much. ;)
I'm not Pagan, I just know various religions, probably more than most
Pagans know about themselves, same deal with Christians. Anyway though,
seeing Jerry refer to Pagans with a "we" pronoun sets of my bullshit
alarm pretty good. But I imagine Jerry would do anything to piss off a
Republican, including adopting a religion (on the fly).
Follow :)
Clave
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>
>> "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:cfc31bc7-67fb-45be-a136-
>>
>> > Doesn't bother me if someone has different or no beliefs. All I
>> > wondered is why atheists should care about Christmas. As for going
>> > juvenile, no one here beats your kindergarden ass at that.
>>
>>
>> I posted a lengthy thread last year questioning the same thing, Alim.
>> It's
>> true. These people want to be athiests but then enjoy Christmas too.
>> They
>> are greedy, hateful, party-crashing hypocrites. Why don't they get their
>> own holiday? It never stops. And look at this moron, Patrick, comes out
>> of
>> the woodwork with how Christ was not born on Christmas. He's looking to
>> ruffle your feathers by somehow thinking he is spoiling our holiday.
>> What
>> is with these people? These are some sick people in some sick times.
>> They
>> get a real kick out of dissing Christmas, but still they want to take the
>> day off and get presents and shit.
>
>
> So ..I assume that no Christians participate in Trick-or-treat ?
The first year I lived in Salt Lake City, Halloween came on a Sunday, so yer
proper Mos sent their kids out on Saturday night -- I couldn't believe it.
Thousands and thousands of kids trick-or-treating the night *before*
Halloween.
The smart kids went out both nights.
Jim
K9way
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:07:40 -0800, johnny_t <nobo...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> >FL Turbo wrote:
> >
> >> Frankly, my boy.
> >> I don't trust anyone to tell me just exactly what is social or
> >> unsocial.
> >
> >So you aren't a Christian? Or you don't take the word of God?
> >
> I was raised as a Christian.
> I have even read a great deal of the Bible.
> Nowhere do I remember Jesus preaching about "social justice".
>
> >BTW, social justice, doesn't imply unsocial justice, per se. Evil is
> >good enough for whatever it is you think you are implying.
>
> Actually, the phrase "social justice" is a phrase usually spoken by
> Socialists and Commies.
>
> Just plain Justice isn't good enough for them.
> They want Social Justice.
>
> Basically, that means they want Justice to mean whatever they say it
> means in any particular case.
>
SO THEN THEY ARE REPUBLICANS ?
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> Why do lawyers talk about the "true facts"?
> Isn't a fact true, simply by definition?
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Who murderd the most people ?
Christians or communists ?
And who will most likely murder more people in the next 100 years ?
Communists or Christians ?
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Paul Popinjay
>
> Who murderd the most people ?
>
> Christians or communists ?
>
> And who will most likely murder more people in the next 100 years ?
>
> Communists or Christians ?
>
Holy shit, they're right, you ARE a dumb mutherfucker. Where've you been
all your life? In a cardroom or something?
johnny_t
> Who murderd the most people ?
>
> Christians or communists ?
>
> And who will most likely murder more people in the next 100 years ?
>
> Communists or Christians ?
Really? I think behind the Chinese, and Stalin, the answer isn't even
close. Not by a long freaking shot.
Rank Death Toll Cause Centuries
1 55 million Second World War 20C
2 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C
3 40 million Mongol Conquests 13C
4 36 million An Lushan Revolt 8C
5 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C
6 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C
7 20 million Annihilation of the American Indians 15C-19C
8 20 million Iosif Stalin 20C
9 19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C
10 18 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C
11 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C
12 17 million British India (mostly famine) 19C
13 15 million First World War 20C
14 9 million Russian Civil War 20C
15 8 million Fall of Rome 3C-5C
16 8 million Congo Free State 19C-20C
17 7 million Thirty Years War 17C
18 5 million Russia's Time of Troubles 16C-17C
19 4 million Napoleonic Wars 19C
20 3 million Chinese Civil War 20C
21 3 million French Wars of Religion 16C
The crusades is like 1 1/2 million.
So what was your point?
Paul Popinjay
>
> So what was your point?
So then, is there a chance, a wee possibility, that Doggystyle, WAS TALKING
OUT HIS ASS?!!! Is that possible?
He will not say anything more about it, I guarantee you. He's done with
THIS thread.
By the way, I see it says "famine" next to Mao's name. Yeah, the famine,
that HE CREATED! It's called "agrarian reform", where the dirty rotten
commies take over people's farms, and if you don't want to go along, they
put a bullet in your head. Stalin did the same thing with Ukraine, Mugabe
did the same with Rhodesia, Mengitzu did the same in Ethiopia, it's standard
communist strategy. The same can happen here in this country. Don't think
it can't. Food does not grow in the back of the supermarket.
johnny_t
Gee Paul, does this mean you agree with me about agro subsidies? That
the breaking of the marketplace to create an abundance of food is a
societal plus rather than a societal negative?
ramashiva
> > Christians or communists ?
> > Communists or Christians ?
I'll tell you what my point is. You should STFD and STFU, since you
obviously know nothing of the history of the Roman Catholic Church.
Ever hear of the Inquisition??? That was the high point of many
centuries of systematic murdering of people for the crime of not
accepting Catholic dogma as truth. The total is unknown, but 100
million is a reasonable estimate, easily topping the totals of Stalin
and Mao.
I have stated this many times, and I will state it again. The Roman
Catholic Church is easily the most evil institution in history.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
johnny_t
>> So what was your point?
>
> I'll tell you what my point is. You should STFD and STFU, since you
> obviously know nothing of the history of the Roman Catholic Church.
> Ever hear of the Inquisition??? That was the high point of many
> centuries of systematic murdering of people for the crime of not
> accepting Catholic dogma as truth. The total is unknown, but 100
> million is a reasonable estimate, easily topping the totals of Stalin
> and Mao.
Oh BULLSHIT. There is simply not enough population around for that
number to be correct.
As evil as you want to make them, on a pure body count they were pikers.
Here are the actual numbers of the Inquisition...
Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834)
Cited in Will Durant, The Reformation (1957):
Juan Antonio Llorente, General Secretary of the Inquisition from 1789 to
1801, estimated that 31,912 were executed, 1480-1808.
In contrast to the high estimate cited above, Durant tosses his support
to the following low estimates:
Hernando de Pulgar, secretary to Queen Isabella, estimated 2,000 burned
before 1490.
An unnamed "Catholic historian" estimated 2,000 burned, 1480-1504, and
2,000 burned, 1504-1758.
PGtH: 8,800 deaths by burning, 1478-1496
Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church (1910): 8,800 burnt in 18
years of Torquemada. (acc2 Buckle and Friedl�nder)
Motley, Rise of the Dutch Republic: 10,220 burnt in 18 years of Torquemada
Britannica: 2,000
Aletheia, The Rationalist's Manual: 35,534 burned.
Fox's Book of Martyrs, Ch.IV: 32,000 burned
Paul Johnson A History of the Jews (1987): 32,000 k. by burning; 20,226
k. before 1540
Wertham: 250,000
Rummel: 350,000 deaths overall.
MEDIAN: 8,800 under Torq.; 32,000 all told.
Punished by all means, not death.
Fox: 309,000
P. Johnson: 341,000
Motley: 114,401
_______________________________________________________________________
You're massive exaggerations are so egregious that their only point, is
that you are trying to make the church righteous by making charges so
outrageously wrong.
AT MOST, by one scholar, 350,000. Sheesh.
Paul Popinjay
>
> Gee Paul, does this mean you agree with me about agro subsidies? That the
> breaking of the marketplace to create an abundance of food is a societal
> plus rather than a societal negative?
No subsidies! No welfare, individual OR corporate.
johnny_t
In pure capitalism, one moves to state of slight undersupply. As this
provides the best returns. Or even more perversely to takeover and
monopoly, again leading to undersupply, but at much higher prices.
As a society, we would have to spend a greater portion of our income
towards food and food security.
The breaking of the markets and the excess of food, is the modern
miracle of the US. It is probably the single most practical strength of
our nation. By removing food security as a problem, and having everyone
believe that it grows in the back of ths supermarket, our people were
free to do other things.
These other things were the dramatic leap that moved us ahead of
everyone else.
And I thought you may have been able to see that by example.
But alas no.
K9way
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ramashiva
> years of Torquemada. (acc2 Buckle and Friedländer)
> Motley, Rise of the Dutch Republic: 10,220 burnt in 18 years of Torquemada
> Britannica: 2,000
> Aletheia, The Rationalist's Manual: 35,534 burned.
> Fox's Book of Martyrs, Ch.IV: 32,000 burned
> Paul Johnson A History of the Jews (1987): 32,000 k. by burning; 20,226
> k. before 1540
> Wertham: 250,000
> Rummel: 350,000 deaths overall.
> MEDIAN: 8,800 under Torq.; 32,000 all told.
> Punished by all means, not death.
> Fox: 309,000
> P. Johnson: 341,000
> Motley: 114,401
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> You're massive exaggerations are so egregious that their only point, is
> that you are trying to make the church righteous by making charges so
> outrageously wrong.
> AT MOST, by one scholar, 350,000. Sheesh.
O I C. Besides being completely ignorant of the history of the Roman
Catholic Church, you also cannot read for comprehension. Here is what
I said about the Inquisition --
"That was the high point of many centuries of systematic murdering of
people for the crime of not accepting Catholic dogma as truth."
Before you embarrass yourself further with your total ignorance on
this subject, I suggest you Google [Albigensians], [Bogomils], and
[Waldensians].
Then read the following for some of the historical record of the
slaughter of millions by the RCC --
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22319610/Roman-Catholic-Church-the-Murderer
Again, you know NOTHING of the history of the RCC, so STFD and STFU.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
johnny_t
Um No.
the historical record shows two large areas of Christian or Catholic
death areas. The Crusades at about 1.5 million people, and the
Inquisition at about 350,000 people.
Stalin still "wins", and I hadn't even added the bodies of Pol Pot and
the Kmher rouge.
Wow, what a document. Written by a whack job after his 15 years of hard
works. And what a title.
And not supported by ANYONE else.
Sorry, STFU and STFD? This is not how to have a discussion. So kindly
FU. Nobody denies the Inquisition, nor the crusades, nor that whacko's
have been in charge of or utilized religion for whacked purposes. It
just isn't the size you deliriously believe it is. And also to attack
an entire ethos based on the success, failure, or views of said whack
jobs, is intellectually vapid.
And I don't even know WHY you are fighting with me on this. And that
you are coming up with such bizarre citations.
ramashiva
LOL. You are truly an idiot. Did you read the document??? Of course
not. How do you know the author is a whackjob??? You don't.
Not supported by anyone else??? If you had read the document, you
would know he quotes many historical sources. You are truly an idiot.
> Sorry, STFU and STFD? This is not how to have a discussion.
It is exactly the way to have a discussion when one party, namely you,
is completely ignorant of the subject matter under discussion.
> So kindly FU.
> Nobody denies the Inquisition, nor the crusades, nor that whacko's
> have been in charge of or utilized religion for whacked purposes. It
> just isn't the size you deliriously believe it is.
I am not delirous. I have studied the subject for many years. 100
million is a reasonable estimate.
> And also to attack
> an entire ethos based on the success, failure, or views of said whack
> jobs, is intellectually vapid.
>
> And I don't even know WHY you are fighting with me on this. And that
> you are coming up with such bizarre citations
My bizarre citation has MANY citations to back up the claim that the
RCC has murdered something on the order of 50 million to 100 million
people over the centuries.
Again, you know nothing of the subject. I give you a link citing MANY
different historical sources, and you dismiss the author as a
whackjob.
Again, you are an idiot. You know nothing of the history of the RCC.