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OrangeSFO
on American soil.
mo_charles
> on American soil.
you need a trial before you can call someone a 9/11 terrorist.
mo_charles
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> Terrified--TERRIFIED I TELL YOU!--of bringing 9/11 terrorists to
> trial
> on American soil.
I think it's a great move by Obama and Holder.
Build a separate prison for them if you have to. Finally a stimulus
program everyone could get behind.
brewmaster
I agree, bring them all here, so long as the boat they are in accidentally
opens a hatch during transit from Cuba and they all fall out and drown.
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da pickle
> Terrified--TERRIFIED I TELL YOU!--of bringing 9/11 terrorists to trial
> on American soil.
How do you know?
It would appear that career attorneys will be handling the trail.
Are you just insane?
da pickle no spam
< "OrangeSFO"
<
< < Terrified--TERRIFIED I TELL YOU!--of bringing 9/11 terrorists to
trial
< < on American soil.
< It would appear that career attorneys will be handling the trail.
Exactly what do you mean by ‘trail’ Risky?
Please make stupid posts under your own name from now on.
Larry Gable
> you need a trial before you can call someone a 9/11 terrorist.
>
The key expert defense witness will be Dylan Avery (creator of the
"Loose Change" video).
Irish Mike
> Terrified--TERRIFIED I TELL YOU!--of bringing 9/11 terrorists to trial
> on American soil.
The thing that truly amazes me about Obama is just how low he will stoop
to try and win a couple of pathetic political points. Obama is more than
willing to drag the families of the 9'11 casualties through the pain of a
circus, spectacle trial. To give these muslim terrorists more publicity
and a bigger media platform and microphone that they could ever dreamed of
having. To give al Queada a full color broadcast recruiting tool that will
be shown on every news channel in the world for weeks if not months.
Obama is willing to expose American anti-terrorist methods and sources to
every terrorist organization in the world. And for what? So Obama and
his staff of Chicago-style political thugs can sling some more mud at
President Bush and the CIA. So he can advance his own far left wing
political agenda.
There muslim terrorists already admitted they were guilty at a military
hearing at Gitmo. They should have been tried at a military tribunal,
which was the process established by
Congress. The idea that Obama is now going to treat them as criminals
instead of the terrorists they are, give them all the rights of an
American citizen and then try them in a civilian court is a disgrace.
Irish Mike
Who has never been more proud to be one of the 60,000,000 Americans who
did not vote for Obama.
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Alim Nassor
LOL
Infundibulum
this bullshit manuever on a Friday afternoon while he was out of the
country. It also accomplished the loathesome feat of putting some 9/11
families in divergent interest to others, since some support the move while
others don't. Pathetic.
I predict that this will blow-up in his face and deservedly so ...
risky biz
You posted that yourself, fuzzbrain. Stop pretending that someone else is
responsible for your dumb posts and get a life.
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OrangeSFO
terrorists.
Clave
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> On Nov 13 2009 5:28 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:
>
>> Terrified--TERRIFIED I TELL YOU!--of bringing 9/11 terrorists to trial
>> on American soil.
>
> The thing that truly amazes me about Obama is just how low he will stoop
> to try and win a couple of pathetic political points. Obama is more than
> willing to drag the families of the 9'11 casualties through the pain of a
> circus, spectacle trial. To give these muslim terrorists more publicity
> and a bigger media platform and microphone that they could ever dreamed of
> having. To give al Queada a full color broadcast recruiting tool that will
> be shown on every news channel in the world for weeks if not months.
> Obama is willing to expose American anti-terrorist methods and sources to
> every terrorist organization in the world. And for what? So Obama and
> his staff of Chicago-style political thugs can sling some more mud at
> President Bush and the CIA. So he can advance his own far left wing
> political agenda.
>
> There muslim terrorists already admitted they were guilty at a military
> hearing at Gitmo. They should have been tried at a military tribunal,
> which was the process established by
> Congress. The idea that Obama is now going to treat them as criminals
> instead of the terrorists they are, give them all the rights of an
> American citizen and then try them in a civilian court is a disgrace.
The disgrace is in your hatred of what America really is and how little
confidence you have in our justice system.
You're a fucking coward, pure and simple.
Jim
Juan Tanamera
First I'd like start by giving a nice big shout out to Dr Joe Medicine
Crow and while I'm at it throw in Chief Jay Strongbow.
Confering constitutional rights to these terrorist may turn out to be
the biggest fiasco in American History when the Ron Kuby like lawyers
start doing their thing and put the CIA on trial. There is a silver
lining though, this is definitely going to hurt Obama and the
democrats. I'm very interested in seeing how his approval rating
reacts to this.
ChrisRobin
> On Nov 13 2009 5:28 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:
>
> > Terrified--TERRIFIED I TELL YOU!--of bringing 9/11 terrorists to trial
> > on American soil.
>
> The thing that truly amazes me about Obama is just how low he will stoop
> to try and win a couple of pathetic political points. Obama is more than
> willing to drag the families of the 9'11 casualties through the pain of a
> circus, spectacle trial. To give these muslim terrorists more publicity
> and a bigger media platform and microphone that they could ever dreamed of
> having. To give al Queada a full color broadcast recruiting tool that will
> be shown on every news channel in the world for weeks if not months.
> Obama is willing to expose American anti-terrorist methods and sources to
> every terrorist organization in the world. And for what? So Obama and
> his staff of Chicago-style political thugs can sling some more mud at
> President Bush and the CIA. So he can advance his own far left wing
> political agenda.
>
> There muslim terrorists already admitted they were guilty at a military
> hearing at Gitmo. They should have been tried at a military tribunal,
> which was the process established by
> Congress. The idea that Obama is now going to treat them as criminals
> instead of the terrorists they are, give them all the rights of an
> American citizen and then try them in a civilian court is a disgrace.
Great idea Mike. Let's just let the government declare people terrorists,
"try" them in sham military tribunals, and then execute them. What could
possibly go wrong?
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Travel A
Great idea Mike. Let's just let the government declare people
terrorists, "try" them in sham military tribunals, and then execute
them. What could possibly go wrong?
I wrote:
Ummm, Obama is the Commander in Chief of the military, numbnuts.
Also, present even the tiniest shred of evidence that the military
tribunals would be a "sham".
susan
"Travel A" <nin...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I'd also question why a military tribunal would be a sham and not a trial in
NYC. I mean, isn't O like the overseer of both venues?
Jerry Sturdivant
This becomes a necessity because of the last administration�s fuck-ups.
Rounding up, �suspects,� by simply putting out wanted posters stating,
virtually, �Bring in anybody and tell us they�re terrorists and we�ll pay
you a bounty.� Then; for all the world to see, violate the Geneva
Conventions by torture the prisoners (killing some in the process). Violate
our own constitution to gather �evidence.� Then tell the world how good
America is. �Mission Accomplished.�
It�s just another mess left by the Cheney administration the Obama
administration must clean up: America unilaterally attacking a sovereign
nation. Destroying the world�s economy. Ruining our nations reputation.
Walk proud GOPuks.
Jerry �n Vegas
- Is this little breach of security going to affect my Xmas bonus?
OrangeSFO
>
> I'd also question why a military tribunal would be a sham and not a trial in
> NYC. I mean, isn't O like the overseer of both venues?
jesus fucking christ you're a dim bulb
Irish Mike
> Irish Mike... put him down as AGAINST trying and executing 9/11
> terrorists.
Don't be stupid. These terrorists proudly admitted their guilt at a
military hearing at Gitmo. They were set to face a military tribunal and
would have been justly hanged for their terrorist acts. These are the
military tribunals authorized by congress to address these military
situations.
But, as Rahm Emanuel, Obama's chief of staff is so fond of saying, "Never
let a crisis go to waste". So they pull these terrorists out of the
military prison and move them to New York City to be tried in a civilian
court with all the right of American citizens. It will cost the tax
payers tens of millions of dollars. These circus, spectacle trials will
likely drag out for several years. It will give the terrorists exactly
what they want. An international televised full color platform to attack
America, it's military, President Bush, the CIA and our intelligence
gathering mechanism. And in the end, if they are found guilty, they will
be executed. Treated as islamic hero martyrs who died for allah on the
big televised international stage for all the muslim world to see. Hell,
that is an al Queada, Hezbollah, Hamas and Taliban recruiter's wet dream!
Not to mention all the potential home grown muslim terrorist who might be
motivated to go out in a blaze of terrorist glory like the muslim
terrorist who just murdered 13 American soldiers and wounded 41 others at
Ft. Hood, Texas. Not to mention the pain and suffering it will put the
families of the victims of 9/11 through.
And all this for what? So Obama and his Chicago political thug
administration can sling some more mud at President Bush. It is a
disgrace.
Irish Mike
Who is very, very proud to be one of the 60,000,000 Americans who did not
vote for Obama.
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garycarson
> On Nov 14 2009 1:25 AM, OrangeSFO wrote:
>
> > Irish Mike... put him down as AGAINST trying and executing 9/11
> > terrorists.
>
> Don't be stupid. These terrorists proudly admitted their guilt at a
> military hearing at Gitmo.
After they were tortured until they confessed.
They were set to face a military tribunal and
> would have been justly hanged for their terrorist acts. These are the
> military tribunals authorized by congress to address these military
> situations.
Congress is gutless with no respect for the constitution.
Respecting the constitution isn't about giving rights to defendants, it's
about respecting the limits that the constitution puts on government power.
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da pickle
>> Don't be stupid. These terrorists proudly admitted their guilt at a
>> military hearing at Gitmo.
>
> After they were tortured until they confessed.
Gary, there might be others that think the same way. Maybe they should just
be released. Would that make you happy?
Clave
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What's so wrong with trying them according to the law?
Jim
ChrisRobin
> Chrissy Parrot blithered:
>
> Great idea Mike. Let's just let the government declare people
> terrorists, "try" them in sham military tribunals, and then execute
> them. What could possibly go wrong?
>
>
>
>
> I wrote:
> Ummm, Obama is the Commander in Chief of the military, numbnuts.
So?
> Also, present even the tiniest shred of evidence that the military
> tribunals would be a "sham".
History teaches us this:
http://hnn.us/articles/117429.html
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da pickle
>> Also, present even the tiniest shred of evidence that the military
>> tribunals would be a "sham".
>
> History teaches us this:
>
> http://hnn.us/articles/117429.html
And yet, President Obama is indeed planning to use military tribunals. How
can that be?
Travel A
Chrissy Parrot blithered:
Great idea Mike. Let's just let the government declare people
terrorists, "try" them in sham military tribunals, and then execute
them. What could possibly go wrong?
I wrote:
Ummm, Obama is the Commander in Chief of the military, numbnuts.
Parrot:
So?
I wrote:
Also, present even the tiniest shred of evidence that the military
tribunals would be a "sham".
Parrot:
History teaches us this:
http://hnn.us/articles/117429.html
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I wrote:
Sorry, you failed.
Bob T.
Too many words for you to understand, wasn't it? Well, here's the
summary:
Military justice isn't justice.
- Bob T.
da pickle
Military justice isn't justice.
=============================
So, what is Obama to do with the "terrorists" (substitute whatever word
seems more appropriate to you) that he knows can only be tried in a military
justice courtroom?
Bob T.
I was summarizing the point of the article for Travel, not offering my
own opinion. My opinion is "It's a complicated situation and I would
have to learn a lot more to offer an informed opinion."
I'm still waiting for people to figure out that Chris Robin is not an
Obama fan.
- Bob T.
da pickle
I was summarizing the point of the article for Travel, not offering my
own opinion. My opinion is "It's a complicated situation and I would
have to learn a lot more to offer an informed opinion."
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Sorry, my bad.
I'm still waiting for people to figure out that Chris Robin is not an
Obama fan.
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Does Chris have a mentor?
James L. Hankins
Unfortunately, I think civilian trials are a huge mistake for Obama. I
don't see how a dog and pony show in Manhattan will benefit anyone other
than Al Quaeda, especially if there is another large-scale terrorist attack
in NYC during (or in response to) the trials. This is one of the areas
where we were better off with Bush. He would not have over-thought the
situation and just had quick military trials, which is what should be done.
Going down the road of the civilian criminal justice system in these cases
is just foolish.
da pickle
>> So, what is Obama to do with the "terrorists" (substitute whatever word
>> seems more appropriate to you) that he knows can only be tried in a
>> military justice courtroom?
>
>
> Unfortunately, I think civilian trials are a huge mistake for Obama. I
> don't see how a dog and pony show in Manhattan will benefit anyone other
> than Al Quaeda, especially if there is another large-scale terrorist
> attack in NYC during (or in response to) the trials. This is one of the
> areas where we were better off with Bush. He would not have over-thought
> the situation and just had quick military trials, which is what should be
> done.
>
> Going down the road of the civilian criminal justice system in these cases
> is just foolish.
This cannot be a quick decision. I really do not see the merits at all.
Someone must understand what this is all about.
All this is going to do is bring 9/11 back in the news every day. Heck, it
even brought Rudy out of his cave.
Travel A
Chrissy Parrot blithered:
Great idea Mike. Let's just let the government declare people
terrorists, "try" them in sham military tribunals, and then execute
them. What could possibly go wrong?
I wrote:
Ummm, Obama is the Commander in Chief of the military, numbnuts.
Parrot:
So?
I wrote:
Also, present even the tiniest shred of evidence that the military
tribunals would be a "sham".
Parrot:
History teaches us this:http://hnn.us/articles/117429.html
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I wrote:
Sorry, you failed.
Bobtard sputtered:
Too many words for you to understand, wasn't it? Well, here's the
summary:
Military justice isn't justice.
- Bob T.
I wrote:
Sorry, Bobtard, you also failed, (but it is a treat to see you so
upset).
Travel A
Bobtard blithered:
Military justice isn't justice.
Pickel wrote:
So, what is Obama to do with the "terrorists" (substitute whatever word
seems more appropriate to you) that he knows can only be tried in a
military justice courtroom?
Hankins wrote:
Unfortunately, I think civilian trials are a huge mistake for Obama. I
don't see how a dog and pony show in Manhattan will benefit anyone other
than Al Quaeda, especially if there is another large-scale terrorist
attack in NYC during (or in response to) the trials. This is one of the
areas where we were better off with Bush. He would not have over-thought
the situation and just had quick military trials, which is what should
be done.
Going down the road of the civilian criminal justice system in these
cases is just foolish.
I wrote:
Want me to summarize that for you, Bobtard?
(teehee)
OrangeSFO
>
> Unfortunately, I think civilian trials are a huge mistake for Obama. I
> don't see how a dog and pony show in Manhattan will benefit anyone other
> than Al Quaeda, especially if there is another large-scale terrorist attack
> in NYC during (or in response to) the trials.
Yes, we should suspend our highest ideals of justice because
terrorists might attack us.
That's how we show al-Qaeda who's boss...
mo_charles
> > don't see how a dog and pony show in Manhattan will benefit anyone other
> > than Al Quaeda, especially if there is another large-scale terrorist attack
> > in NYC during (or in response to) the trials. �
>
> Yes, we should suspend our highest ideals of justice because
> terrorists might attack us.
>
> That's how we show al-Qaeda who's boss...
i missed the trial of the taliban leadership, when did we have that one?
mo_charles
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OrangeSFO
>
> i missed the trial of the taliban leadership, when did we have that one?
I missed where we charged the "Taliban Leadership" with the murder of
thousands of Americans on American soil.
Can you catch me up on that one?
mo_charles
>
> I missed where we charged the "Taliban Leadership" with the murder of
> thousands of Americans on American soil.
>
> Can you catch me up on that one?
that's a fine point, orange. when will your protest of this unjust war on
the taliban begin? should we incarcerate and try obama for his suspension
of inalienable rights, trampling the constitution, and endangering our
very way of life? he's murdering UNTRIED, UNCONVICTED, and likely
INNOCENT human beings, orange.
mo_charles
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JerseyRudy
yes, I can see how someone who spends their days and nights discussing
politics on a poker newsgroup would believe that the real world is a cave.
And it also makes sense that you can't understand what this decision is
all about. After 8 years of supporting torture and CIA black holes, the
justice system would seem nonsensical.
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da pickle
> yes, I can see how someone who spends their days and nights discussing
> politics on a poker newsgroup would believe that the real world is a cave.
Just you, Rudy!
> And it also makes sense that you can't understand what this decision is
> all about. After 8 years of supporting torture and CIA black holes, the
> justice system would seem nonsensical.
Which justice system is being referenced ... the one for some or the one for
the others?