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Some things i didn't know about Covid
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Bill Vanek
Sep 16, 2021, 2:25:07 PM9/16/21
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Things I didn’t know about Covid appear in this column. I ain’t preaching
to the unvaccinated, but there were some disturbing things of interest in
here:
COMMENTARY
The Case for Covid Booster Shots Is Strong
Severe Covid infections that aren’t defeated quickly can lead to
long-lasting complications.
By Allysia Finley
The Biden administration’s plan to start rolling out Covid-19 booster shots
next week has drawn criticism from some who claim there’s not enough
evidence to show they’re needed. While breakthrough infections among the
fully vaccinated have increased, most of those cases aren’t severe. The
purpose of vaccines, say booster critics, is to prevent hospitalizations and
deaths, not cold-like symptoms.
But many fully vaccinated people in recent months have reported getting
severely sick with Covid, though not to the point of needing hospitalization.
Boosters should help reduce the number of such cases. They could also prevent
people from experiencing certain complications that sometimes follow a severe
case of Covid.
Covid doesn’t merely infect the lungs and respiratory tract. It can attack
other organs, including the brain, if it isn’t quickly defeated by your
immune system. At the Alzheimer’s Association International Conference in
July, researchers reported an uptick in inflammatory biomarkers indicative of
Alzheimer’s disease and brain injury in the blood of patients who had been
hospitalized with Covid.One small study found that more than half of people
hospitalized with Covid demonstrated cognitive decline two months after
discharge. Short-term memory impairments, worse memory and cognitive test
scores were associated with lower blood oxygen levels on a six-minute walk
test, indicating a possible link to cardiovascular and pulmonary functions.
Damage to the heart or lungs can reduce blood oxygen levels and result in the
lingering “brain fog” that some Covid patients report months after their
illness.
Another study in Lancet Psychiatry from May found that patients hospitalized
with Covid were twice as likely to be diagnosed with dementia within six
months than patients who weren’t.Dr. Alireza Atri, director of Banner Sun
Health Research Institute who specializes in cognitive disorders, says he’s
been seeing many more patients in their 50s who have signs of early dementia
after having Covid. “It’s a nasty neuro-destructive virus,” he says in
an interview. “It can accelerate decline in people who are more susceptible
to dementia and Alzheimer’s.”
One reason is the virus can attack the lining of blood vessels and cause
small blood clots in the brain. It also uses the olfactory pathways to
directly invade the brain, poking holes in the normally ironclad blood-brain
barrier. The olfactory pathways project to parts of the brain that are very
close to where new memories are formed, which is another reason that some
Covid survivors may suffer from brain fog and loss of taste and smell.The
blood-brain barrier keeps out viruses and other harmful substances. If the
brain’s protective armor is weakened, people may be susceptible to other
invaders. People with the APOE4 gene allele, which has been connected to a
higher risk of Alzheimer’s, may also be more vulnerable to Covid. A study
last year found that the gene leads to blood- brain barrier dysfunction.
Another study found that carrying two copies of the APOE4 gene allele (one
from both the father and mother) made people twice as likely to develop
severe illness.
People with less “cognitive reserve” are probably more vulnerable to
Covid’s attacks on the brain, Dr. Atri adds. Cognitive reserve is the
concept that individuals have different abilities to withstand
neuropathological damage. Some people can still function normally despite
damage to their brains since they can adapt—for instance, by rerouting
processes. This is why many people with the hallmarks of Alzheimer’s in
their brains don’t exhibit cognitive decline.
Higher education, social interaction and intellectually demanding jobs can
increase mental resilience, though Dr. Atri worries that the virus may
deplete the cognitive reserve. His goal isn’t to scare people from leaving
their homes, but to create more public awareness so people can better assess
their health risks and modify their behavior accordingly.The growing evidence
that a coronavirus infection that isn’t rapidly defeated by the immune
system can seriously damage the brain and other organs argues in favor of
expediting boosters, especially for older people who are at higher risk for
both severe illness and dementia. Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines
generate high levels of neutralizing antibodies, which are the immune
system’s front-line defense. But these gradually wane over several months
and are less effective against the Delta variant. A new study in the journal
Nature indicates that vaccine antibodies are eight-times less sensitive to
the Delta variant than to the Alpha.While vaccines also generate back-up
fighter T- cells, antibodies are still important because they give the immune
system time to mobilize. The T-cell response in older people is generally
more sluggish. Because the Delta replicates much faster than earlier
variants, it can quickly overwhelm a sleepy or compromised immune system.
Boosters help because they provide a huge jolt of antibodies. In those age 65
to 85, a third dose of Pfizer’s vaccine has been found to produce a
more-than 11-fold increase in antibodies compared with the second dose. A
recent study from Israel found that people over 60 who received Pfizer
boosters were more than 10 times less likely to get severe illness than those
who had two shots.So far there’s no evidence to suggest that side effects
from a third dose are greater than those from a second. Covid will never be
eradicated, and we’ll have to learn to live with it. That’s why we need
boosters.
Ms. Finley is a Journal editorial board member.
to the unvaccinated, but there were some disturbing things of interest in
here:
COMMENTARY
The Case for Covid Booster Shots Is Strong
Severe Covid infections that aren’t defeated quickly can lead to
long-lasting complications.
By Allysia Finley
The Biden administration’s plan to start rolling out Covid-19 booster shots
next week has drawn criticism from some who claim there’s not enough
evidence to show they’re needed. While breakthrough infections among the
fully vaccinated have increased, most of those cases aren’t severe. The
purpose of vaccines, say booster critics, is to prevent hospitalizations and
deaths, not cold-like symptoms.
But many fully vaccinated people in recent months have reported getting
severely sick with Covid, though not to the point of needing hospitalization.
Boosters should help reduce the number of such cases. They could also prevent
people from experiencing certain complications that sometimes follow a severe
case of Covid.
Covid doesn’t merely infect the lungs and respiratory tract. It can attack
other organs, including the brain, if it isn’t quickly defeated by your
immune system. At the Alzheimer’s Association International Conference in
July, researchers reported an uptick in inflammatory biomarkers indicative of
Alzheimer’s disease and brain injury in the blood of patients who had been
hospitalized with Covid.One small study found that more than half of people
hospitalized with Covid demonstrated cognitive decline two months after
discharge. Short-term memory impairments, worse memory and cognitive test
scores were associated with lower blood oxygen levels on a six-minute walk
test, indicating a possible link to cardiovascular and pulmonary functions.
Damage to the heart or lungs can reduce blood oxygen levels and result in the
lingering “brain fog” that some Covid patients report months after their
illness.
Another study in Lancet Psychiatry from May found that patients hospitalized
with Covid were twice as likely to be diagnosed with dementia within six
months than patients who weren’t.Dr. Alireza Atri, director of Banner Sun
Health Research Institute who specializes in cognitive disorders, says he’s
been seeing many more patients in their 50s who have signs of early dementia
after having Covid. “It’s a nasty neuro-destructive virus,” he says in
an interview. “It can accelerate decline in people who are more susceptible
to dementia and Alzheimer’s.”
One reason is the virus can attack the lining of blood vessels and cause
small blood clots in the brain. It also uses the olfactory pathways to
directly invade the brain, poking holes in the normally ironclad blood-brain
barrier. The olfactory pathways project to parts of the brain that are very
close to where new memories are formed, which is another reason that some
Covid survivors may suffer from brain fog and loss of taste and smell.The
blood-brain barrier keeps out viruses and other harmful substances. If the
brain’s protective armor is weakened, people may be susceptible to other
invaders. People with the APOE4 gene allele, which has been connected to a
higher risk of Alzheimer’s, may also be more vulnerable to Covid. A study
last year found that the gene leads to blood- brain barrier dysfunction.
Another study found that carrying two copies of the APOE4 gene allele (one
from both the father and mother) made people twice as likely to develop
severe illness.
People with less “cognitive reserve” are probably more vulnerable to
Covid’s attacks on the brain, Dr. Atri adds. Cognitive reserve is the
concept that individuals have different abilities to withstand
neuropathological damage. Some people can still function normally despite
damage to their brains since they can adapt—for instance, by rerouting
processes. This is why many people with the hallmarks of Alzheimer’s in
their brains don’t exhibit cognitive decline.
Higher education, social interaction and intellectually demanding jobs can
increase mental resilience, though Dr. Atri worries that the virus may
deplete the cognitive reserve. His goal isn’t to scare people from leaving
their homes, but to create more public awareness so people can better assess
their health risks and modify their behavior accordingly.The growing evidence
that a coronavirus infection that isn’t rapidly defeated by the immune
system can seriously damage the brain and other organs argues in favor of
expediting boosters, especially for older people who are at higher risk for
both severe illness and dementia. Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines
generate high levels of neutralizing antibodies, which are the immune
system’s front-line defense. But these gradually wane over several months
and are less effective against the Delta variant. A new study in the journal
Nature indicates that vaccine antibodies are eight-times less sensitive to
the Delta variant than to the Alpha.While vaccines also generate back-up
fighter T- cells, antibodies are still important because they give the immune
system time to mobilize. The T-cell response in older people is generally
more sluggish. Because the Delta replicates much faster than earlier
variants, it can quickly overwhelm a sleepy or compromised immune system.
Boosters help because they provide a huge jolt of antibodies. In those age 65
to 85, a third dose of Pfizer’s vaccine has been found to produce a
more-than 11-fold increase in antibodies compared with the second dose. A
recent study from Israel found that people over 60 who received Pfizer
boosters were more than 10 times less likely to get severe illness than those
who had two shots.So far there’s no evidence to suggest that side effects
from a third dose are greater than those from a second. Covid will never be
eradicated, and we’ll have to learn to live with it. That’s why we need
boosters.
Ms. Finley is a Journal editorial board member.
risky biz
Sep 16, 2021, 3:04:24 PM9/16/21
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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 11:25:07 AM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> Things I didn’t know about Covid appear in this column. I ain’t preaching
> to the unvaccinated, but there were some disturbing things of interest in
> here:
>
> COMMENTARY
>
> The Case for Covid Booster Shots Is Strong
>
> Severe Covid infections that aren’t defeated quickly can lead to
> long-lasting complications.
>
> By Allysia Finley
>
> The Biden administration’s plan to start rolling out Covid-19 booster shots
> next week has drawn criticism from some who claim there’s not enough
> evidence to show they’re needed. While breakthrough infections among the
> fully vaccinated have increased, most of those cases aren’t severe.
~ The
> Things I didn’t know about Covid appear in this column. I ain’t preaching
> to the unvaccinated, but there were some disturbing things of interest in
> here:
>
> COMMENTARY
>
> The Case for Covid Booster Shots Is Strong
>
> Severe Covid infections that aren’t defeated quickly can lead to
> long-lasting complications.
>
> By Allysia Finley
>
> The Biden administration’s plan to start rolling out Covid-19 booster shots
> next week has drawn criticism from some who claim there’s not enough
> evidence to show they’re needed. While breakthrough infections among the
> fully vaccinated have increased, most of those cases aren’t severe.
> purpose of vaccines, say booster critics, is to prevent hospitalizations and
> deaths, not cold-like symptoms.
I suspect that the health professionals criticizing booster shots have an unmentioned agenda- they think we should provide the vaccine to the rest of the world (at our expense, most likely) rather than provide more effective protection
> deaths, not cold-like symptoms.
to Americans.
Bill Vanek
Sep 16, 2021, 3:10:00 PM9/16/21
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On Sep 16, 2021, risky biz wrote
(in article<7956934c-4737-45c6...@googlegroups.com>):
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 11:25:07 AM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > Things I didn’t know about Covid appear in this column. I ain’t
> > preaching
> > to the unvaccinated, but there were some disturbing things of interest in
> > here:
> >
> > COMMENTARY
> >
> > The Case for Covid Booster Shots Is Strong
> >
> > Severe Covid infections that aren’t defeated quickly can lead to
> > long-lasting complications.
> >
> > By Allysia Finley
> >
> > The Biden administration’s plan to start rolling out Covid-19 booster
> > shots
> > next week has drawn criticism from some who claim there’s not enough
> > evidence to show they’re needed. While breakthrough infections among the
> > fully vaccinated have increased, most of those cases aren’t severe.
>
(in article<7956934c-4737-45c6...@googlegroups.com>):
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 11:25:07 AM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > Things I didn’t know about Covid appear in this column. I ain’t
> > preaching
> > to the unvaccinated, but there were some disturbing things of interest in
> > here:
> >
> > COMMENTARY
> >
> > The Case for Covid Booster Shots Is Strong
> >
> > Severe Covid infections that aren’t defeated quickly can lead to
> > long-lasting complications.
> >
> > By Allysia Finley
> >
> > The Biden administration’s plan to start rolling out Covid-19 booster
> > shots
> > next week has drawn criticism from some who claim there’s not enough
> > evidence to show they’re needed. While breakthrough infections among the
> > fully vaccinated have increased, most of those cases aren’t severe.
>
> > The
> > purpose of vaccines, say booster critics, is to prevent hospitalizations and
> > deaths, not cold-like symptoms.
>
> I suspect that the health professionals criticizing booster shots have an
> unmentioned agenda- they think we should provide the vaccine to the rest of
> the world (at our expense, most likely) rather than provide more effective
> protection
> to Americans.
No need to suspect anything. That is one of their arguments.
> > purpose of vaccines, say booster critics, is to prevent hospitalizations and
> > deaths, not cold-like symptoms.
>
> I suspect that the health professionals criticizing booster shots have an
> unmentioned agenda- they think we should provide the vaccine to the rest of
> the world (at our expense, most likely) rather than provide more effective
> protection
> to Americans.
VegasJerry
Sep 16, 2021, 3:12:31 PM9/16/21
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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 11:25:07 AM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> Things I didn’t know about Covid appear in this column. I ain’t preaching
> to the unvaccinated, but there were some disturbing things of interest in
> here:
>
> COMMENTARY
>
> The Case for Covid Booster Shots Is Strong
>
> Severe Covid infections that aren’t defeated quickly can lead to
> long-lasting complications.
>
> By Allysia Finley
>
> The Biden administration’s plan to start rolling out Covid-19 booster shots
> next week has drawn criticism from some who claim there’s not enough
> evidence to show they’re needed.
Yea, there's enough. I was part of a study that proved that.
> to the unvaccinated, but there were some disturbing things of interest in
> here:
>
> COMMENTARY
>
> The Case for Covid Booster Shots Is Strong
>
> Severe Covid infections that aren’t defeated quickly can lead to
> long-lasting complications.
>
> By Allysia Finley
>
> The Biden administration’s plan to start rolling out Covid-19 booster shots
> next week has drawn criticism from some who claim there’s not enough
> evidence to show they’re needed.
> While breakthrough infections among the fully vaccinated have increased,
> most of those cases aren’t severe.
> The purpose of vaccines, say booster critics, is to prevent hospitalizations and
> deaths, not cold-like symptoms.
Tell THAT to your "Booster critics."
> But many fully vaccinated people in recent months have reported getting
> severely sick with Covid, though not to the point of needing hospitalization.
> Boosters should help reduce the number of such cases.
> They could also prevent people from experiencing certain complications that
> sometimes follow a severe case of Covid.
> Covid doesn’t merely infect the lungs and respiratory tract. It can attack
> other organs, including the brain, if it isn’t quickly defeated by your
> immune system.
lost her sense of taste. (And, and a fucking idiot Republican, STILL won't get the shots)
> Boosters help because they provide a huge jolt of antibodies. In those age 65
> to 85, a third dose of Pfizer’s vaccine has been found to produce a
> more-than 11-fold increase in antibodies compared with the second dose.
VegasJerry
Sep 16, 2021, 3:14:56 PM9/16/21
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Bill Vanek
Sep 16, 2021, 3:16:45 PM9/16/21
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On Sep 16, 2021, VegasJerry wrote
(in article<aaee1eac-55e0-4ffc...@googlegroups.com>):
So you’re ridiculing a columnist who agrees with you completely? Because
she’s a conservative? Of course. Because it appeared in a Murdoch rag? Of
course. Because you’re stupid? Of course.
(in article<aaee1eac-55e0-4ffc...@googlegroups.com>):
she’s a conservative? Of course. Because it appeared in a Murdoch rag? Of
course. Because you’re stupid? Of course.
VegasJerry
Sep 16, 2021, 3:42:55 PM9/16/21
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Tim Norfolk
Sep 16, 2021, 6:31:47 PM9/16/21
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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 3:04:24 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
<snip>
No 'suspect' needed. Several representatives of the WHO said exactly that.
<snip>
> I suspect that the health professionals criticizing booster shots have an unmentioned agenda- they think we should provide the vaccine to the rest of the world (at our expense, most likely) rather than provide more effective protection
> to Americans.
<snip>
> to Americans.
No 'suspect' needed. Several representatives of the WHO said exactly that.
risky biz
Sep 16, 2021, 6:57:49 PM9/16/21
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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 3:04:24 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
> <snip>
> > I suspect that the health professionals criticizing booster shots have an unmentioned agenda- they think we should provide the vaccine to the rest of the world (at our expense, most likely) rather than provide more effective protection
> > to Americans.
> <snip>
>
~ No 'suspect' needed. Several representatives of the WHO said exactly that.
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 3:04:24 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
> <snip>
> > I suspect that the health professionals criticizing booster shots have an unmentioned agenda- they think we should provide the vaccine to the rest of the world (at our expense, most likely) rather than provide more effective protection
> > to Americans.
> <snip>
>
I based what I said on statements I've seen that didn't mention that bias.
Satoshi Popinjay
Sep 16, 2021, 8:33:04 PM9/16/21
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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
>
>
> No 'suspect' needed. Several representatives of the WHO said exactly that.
The communist dominated WHO. You're a fucking moron.
Tim Norfolk
Sep 17, 2021, 4:48:39 PM9/17/21
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Pierre Trudeau
Sep 17, 2021, 8:02:52 PM9/17/21
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So, Jerry, which science are you going to follow now?
VegasJerry
Sep 17, 2021, 8:23:22 PM9/17/21
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And report you're embarrassment back here.
> So, Jerry, which science are you going to follow now?
Pierre Trudeau
Sep 17, 2021, 8:36:14 PM9/17/21
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Dutch
Sep 18, 2021, 1:07:58 AM9/18/21
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VegasJerry
Sep 18, 2021, 11:35:30 AM9/18/21
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> It called for boosters for EVERYBODY LOL It only mentioned over 65s one time. LOL
Here, I'll do a CUT & PASTE for you:
Here, kid; let me grab you by your little hand (smaller than Trump’s) and walk you through it:
It’s the FDA (Food & Drug) ADVISORY panel. ADVISORY (you DO know what than means, righ?). They voted on the: ”Safety and effectiveness data,” being, “… (D)o they known the potential benefits,” (that means, yea, the booster does in fact give you additional protection - benefit), “outweigh the known and potential risks?” (Undefined) from a clinical trial, support boosters after 6 months for those 16 and older. i.e. Should everybody over 16 get a booster shot? The vote was 16-2 against.
Oh, and some argued, “There shouldn’t be booster shots because they would do more good (meaning they do help) going to countries that haven’t any.” AGAIN, they DO help.
On Question #2: “How about a booster for those 65 and older or at high risk?” They voted 18-0, YES.
Huh? So how did they reach a 16-2 against for everybody? (Hello?) The risk data for the young is not in. The benefits are.
THEN that very same FDA Advisory Panel – ADVISORY panel – scratched it’s pointed heads and said, (not in answer to a question #3) “Uh, and yea, maybe also healthcare workers?; teachers, nurse?; and, uh, and others at high-risk occupational exposure?” (Hello? Again, why not in the original vote?) So what’s the fractured vote for that (or ‘those?’)
The ACTUAL FDA decision (this is just the ADVISORY panel, remember) comes next week. And, no, they do not have to take the ADVISE(S) of the ADVISORY panel.
Also next week the CDC (Center for DISEASE Control – you know, like Disease SCIENTISTS?) Advisory panel meets next week, too. Let’s see what they say – about the PROVEN benefits of booster shots.
Now wipe the shit off your chin and run away..
(JFC, some people’s kids……….)
Pierre Trudeau
Sep 18, 2021, 12:02:07 PM9/18/21
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VegasJerry
Sep 18, 2021, 12:13:28 PM9/18/21
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(Another bitch slap....)
risky biz
Sep 18, 2021, 1:27:41 PM9/18/21
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Jerry's being a lot more coherent than you.
'A Food and Drug Administration advisory panel overwhelmingly voted Friday against giving Pfizer-BioNTech's Covid-19 booster shots to most people on Friday, agreeing only to distribute them to people ages 65 and up as well as those at high risk of severe illness.'
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-advisory-group-rejects-covid-boosters-limits-high-risk-groups-rcna2074
And the FDA has previously approved an additional shot for people with compromised immune systems.
Is it your goal to infect everyone in the f'n United States with a deadly disease?
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