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can you get regular income from keno/lotto

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Zed6

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Jun 17, 2001, 11:52:19 AM6/17/01
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Is it really possible to make a regaluar income from Keno (80 numbers) pick 3 -
pick 10 ?? or from 45 number lottery??
There are a lot of systems for sale on the net which claim they can help you
make extra income but I dont really believe it. I fthere is a way, I would
really like to know. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Zed

Robert Perkis

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Jun 18, 2001, 3:05:03 AM6/18/01
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In short, no. Anyone who advertises you can use their system
to earn an income, play for free until you hit the jackpot or
roll smaller wins into millions is either scamming you or while
the math works out you would have to be luckier than, well just
about everyone you've ever met.

There are some systems like wheeling which can help you capture
lower tier prizes you might otherwise miss. Some systems might
help you get a better distribution of numbers or help you pick
a good assortment, but winning a jackpot with them is pure luck.

Same goes for clubs that claim you can earn income by scamming
your friends and neighbours into over paying to play in foreign
lottery pools, forget it even if you live outside the U.S.A.
where it might be legal. (Moldavia?)

Some systems like making a six by six grid, putting numbers in
the boxes semi-randomly and playing the resulting columns down
across and criss-cross can't hurt you and might even help, but
you can't expect to cover millions of combinations with 14 sets
of numbers.

Systems can't work on their own, their authors would never sell
them if they worked. The hope is you will see something they
missed and "fix" the system or "find where the winning numbers
come from" in what the software reports and take it from there.

This isn't to say there isn't some system out there about to
make its creator or purchaser rich, but I certainly don't know
about it. When you find it be sure and let us know.

Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/

RayJ

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Jun 18, 2001, 8:53:58 AM6/18/01
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Interesting enough, back in the late 80's
in Illinois they came out with a new game.
I forget what it was (6/49 I think).

Anyway a group of us at work decided to pool
our money. I went to buy the tickets. I wanted
$15.00 quick picks.

Well, ALL of the quickpicks had variations of
5-10-15-20-25-30-35 numbers! There were no other
numbers on the tickets. No tickets were duplicate
but VERY close. I'm sure there was a glich in the
system.

I still have the tickets somewhere.

me wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
> ...
> ...
> Don't spend $$ on mathematically irrelevant systems, watch all the flames
> I'll get. For example, I've never seen {5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30}come up in a 6
> of 49 drawing.

john Latala

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Jun 18, 2001, 10:32:25 AM6/18/01
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Robert Perkis wrote:

> This isn't to say there isn't some system out there about to
> make its creator or purchaser rich, but I certainly don't know
> about it. When you find it be sure and let us know.

The think that always makes me wonder is: If you actually had a system
that worked would you tell anyone?

If you could make enough money off the lottery to live on and all it took
to do that was your system then once it got known everybody would be using
it. At some point the people running it would see that they're losing
money so they'd cancel that lottery or change the rules so your system
didn't work. In either case your cash cow would disappear.

So if you had a winning system would you tell anyone?

I've heard of professional blackjack players who make a living off plyaing
blackjack. I've heard of professional handicappers who make a living off
betting on horse races. I've never heard of a professional lottery player
so I guess there must be a reason for that ...

--
john R. Latala
jrla...@golden.net

Philippe

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Jun 18, 2001, 10:32:59 AM6/18/01
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Well like everyone is telling you the answer is NO.
I try myself to achieve that goal for years to make a regular income without
hitting the jackpot....
I got some wheeling system that will give me winning prices each time and if
I am lucky that day it might reimburse my bet and even if I win more than I
played the extra amount won will cover my previous loss during the last
month or so.
No and None of the programs that are for sale or for free from the internet
or other sources will give you the edge for winning on a regular basis.
Those programs are tools for players who don't do their own research or
like me I use them to compare my own statistics against it.
Software does not win by automatic point-and-click, the player use it to be
informed, you win by making the right decision at the right time, luck is
the controlling factor.
I have many programs for wheeling, playing, ...etc, many came free from the
internet and also my own excel program where I store infos and stats on the
California Daily 3, Fantasy 5, Super lotto Plus and also for the French
Lottery 6/49 and Keno 10/20/70. I have more than 1000 wheels on my computer
and made some on my own, now every single wheels that I tested never gave me
the Big Jackpot without having to spend several thousands of dollars and
this not good at all.
I do not believe in the History of a game because the machine and the set of
balls that are used are chosen randomly every single time for each drawing
without us knowing which are used that day, even the Fantasy 5 in California
(no sets of balls here) is drawn from computer generated random numbers that
are most likely based on the internal clock of their computers, so unless
you've got the same PC and same clock you are not going to find the same
random numbers and even if you do have the same exact type of machine, well
random is random...
Then you have the California Super Lotto Plus (5/47 nbs + bonus 1/27) with
odds that are not friendly at all... more than 41 millions (41,416,353)
where if you win 5 numbers without the bonus you end up winning less than if
you had win 5 nbs in Fantasy 5/39.
This is my opinion....what's yours....
Philippe

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Zed6

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Jun 19, 2001, 1:34:30 PM6/19/01
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but professional blackjack players sell thier systems to others and it still
works, why cant this be true for lottery as well??
But I guess you are right, if I can across a system which worked, I would not
tell anyone!

nom...@webtv.net

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Jun 19, 2001, 4:36:51 PM6/19/01
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"Even horse races are too hard to predict, I've never met anybody who's
made money at it."
---------------------------------------------------
There was a famous handicapper at the New York tracks in the 1950's that
made huge amounts of money. He was so good that he had to hire people
to place the bets for him at the track. Otherwise a mob would follow him
to the betting windows to see who he wagered on.

He died at the age of 58 after swimming laps in his pool at his Long
Island mansion. (There is a lesson there somewhere;-)




Mac

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Jun 19, 2001, 6:07:20 PM6/19/01
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Zed6 <ze...@aol.com> wrote in message
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there's only one way to guarantee winning the lotto. that's buying all the
combinations. of course making money on the transaction is a little tougher.


Zed6

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Jun 20, 2001, 11:35:12 AM6/20/01
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Then if its not possible to make money with the lottery, whats the point of
having newsgroups and discussion groups regarding this topic and why are there
so many people involved/interested??

Zed

Philippe

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Jun 20, 2001, 3:36:37 PM6/20/01
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Because we are all hoping that someone will come up with an idea and be naïf
enough to tell us the result so that we can all play it and share the big
jackpot in 100 of thousands of little prices instead to keep it for
himself.
Beside that we want to know what everybody is using in term of tips and
tricks and maybe find something that will work better than what we are
using.
And its nice to know that we have the same hobby,
...numbers....challenge...stats...becoming a millionaire in a
instant...lol....
And further more we can help with some of our experiences the new lotto
fellow who need some ideas on how he can play with diversification in place
of using his/hers birth date each time...which actually can work better than
any systems.
Be the Odds with you all...
Philippe

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Mac

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Jun 21, 2001, 7:32:28 AM6/21/01
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Zed6 <ze...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Maybe ther is no point.
As another poster said " we all hope to break the rules of probability, and
win the big one. "
afer all every week some one somewhere does. and your not gonna win it if
your not in it.

I persoanlly like to see what other people dream up , and like to point out
whatever flaws i see : )
or what programs people use to help , i'm still looking for one that will
helpp me. I seriously think it hasnt been written yet. for me its a hobby.
and by the looks its the same for most people in here.

there was a statye lottery in my state thatstop prize was larger than
covering all the combinations just about 1 month ago.

it would take some one with a lot of balls to spend the 1.35 million to
cover it when any sucker with a $3 quick pick could have shared the pool
with them. odds were 1:2.76 mill. @ $0.50c a ticket , prize pool for div1
$1.6mill.
a cool clear 300k profit lol

but im rambling


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