This new super 100% 4if6in18number42combination wheel combines
prize winning possibilities not always found in other versions
of this wheel designation. (18,6,4,6 42 which means a pick-6
game where a 4 number prize is 100% guaranteed if all 6 of the
winning numbers are among the 18 numbers being wheeled in 42
combinations.)
Indeed, one hundred percent is all the percent there is, but
wheels can be more than their encoded one line description.
Wheels concurrently carry within them percentages of cover for
all prizes the lottery offers. Sometimes wheels can even
carry wheels within wheels for a combitorial double dip!!!
I was rather pleased when CoverMaster finally clicked to zero
after a two day run, because I knew what had gone into the
"Locked" portion of the wheel. Here I was, trying something
old with something new and it worked spectacularly. Why . . .
Dimitrov 4if6 wheels used a foundation of three number blocks
laid down like bricks. This core of blocks made natural mini
4if5of9 wheels for 3 line sets and 4if6of12 wheels for 6 line
sets for the wheel maker to weave together.
(Actually Dimitrov wheels are copies of wheels smuggled out of
the Eastern Block in the fifties where permutations were hand
made by mathematicians for various purposes, probably due to a
lack of alternative entertainment.)
In my attempt to build a better wheel I used this foundation
upon which CoverMaster [Generated] 27 additional lines to
[Optimize] over two days and nights to close the cover.
The results were good, so I saved a copy and [Optimized] for
3if3, then 4if6 again, rocking back and forth until I had 100%
of 4if6 and 95.58824% of 3if3. Far as I can determine this is
absolutely optimal coverage for 18 numbers in 42 combinations.
Reviewing a multitude of store bought wheels and repository
wheels available, the new wheel was equal to the best in all
prize tier percentages of cover and better than many including
some that also had the Dimitrov style foundation.
In short, this wheel is top notch, a fact you can't know about
its competitors without testing them first. Onward . . .
Have you ever noticed how we use 3if and 4if abbreviated
wheels when we want to win a jackpot? Sure we play what we
can afford and hope for the best, but is this really the way?
Some time ago I began to wonder if there was more to the way
Dimitrov wheels were constructed. Where there hidden secrets
of the old masters, hidden super powers you might say, if only
one knew how to put them to use.
Well guess what, there is !!!
The Dimitrov blocks provide a conditional internal wheel you
can use to directly target the jackpot while at the same time
playing a 4if6in18 wheel at no additional cost to you.
The only difference between what you usually do and the new
way is simple. Where before you wrote out the pointer numbers
01-18 and your numbers below to exchange on the wheel. Now you
write them out and put a line between each 3 number group.
Old: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18
New: 1-2-3 | 4-5-6 | 7-8-9 | 10-11-12 | 13-14-15 | 16-17-18
Where before you wrote your numbers below in numeric order or
however they came to you. Now you put numbers in each group
you hope/expect will be drawn together.
If you are a "pairs" player, two pairs with a number in common
makes a nice three number set.
The secret is within the whole of the greater wheel, each and
every one of these six sets of three numbers will come in
contact with each other to form a combination: 1-2-3+4-5-6,
1-2-3+7-8-8, etc. Of course you won't be playing 1-2-3-4-5-6,
you will be playing the numbers you replaced them with.
So what happens if you get . . .
Any two 3# sets right? Instant Jackpot!!!
A 3# and a 2# and a 1# right? A 5# win and a 4# win!
A 3# and a 2# right? A 5# win!
A 3# and three 1#'s right? Three 4# wins!
A 3# and two 1#'s right? Two 4# wins!
A 3# and one 1# right? One 4# win!
Three 2#'s of the sets right? Three 4# wins!
Two 2#'s of the sets right? One 4# win!
A 2# and four 1#'s right? Four 3# wins!
A 2# and three 1#'s right? Three 3# wins!
A 2# and two 1#'s right? Two 3# wins!
A 2# and one 1# right? One 3# win!
The above win table is only for the Dimitrov portion of the
wheel within the greater wheel which guarantees 100% 4if6,
100% 3if6, 100% 3if5, 100% 3if4, 79% 4if5, 95% 3if3.
Finally we have a wheel that offers the wheeling lotto player
the opportunity to target the jackpot without giving up one
iota of traditional 4if6 coverage or alternative prize cover.
What's that you say? That isn't enough? You say you want more
for your money? Well, here's what I'm gonna do. You know how
powerful a 3if3 wheel is for multiple 3# prizes when you have
any 4, 5, or 6 of the numbers correct? (Note a 100% 3if3of6in
18# wheel can be found on various sources taking from 48 to 59
combinations and without the Dimitrov blocks.)
Here's the added value of the Lotto-Logix wheel. You will
find six additional lines at the end of the 4if6in18n42lines,
for a total of 48 lines. If you include these last six lines
in your play (exchanging them for your pointers like the
others) you have 100% coverage of BOTH 4if6in18 and 3if3in18
with ALL the improved multiple 3# prize coverage of the 3if3,
plus the jackpot opportunity of the Dimitrov blocks and the
100% 4if6in18 coverage better than or every bit equal to the
best 4if6in18 wheels on the market today.
This is a great wheel for club/pool play or to build a system
around. Please consider it copyrighted for free public use if
credit is given to its source. The additional six lines also
improve 4if5 coverage from 79.2% to 82.9%
Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/
18,6,4,6 42 + 18,6,3,3 48 Covering Design
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 7 8 9
1 2 3 10 11 12
1 2 3 13 14 15
1 2 3 16 17 18
1 4 7 12 14 17
1 4 8 11 15 16
1 4 9 10 13 18
1 5 7 12 15 18
1 5 8 11 13 17
1 5 9 10 14 16
1 6 7 12 13 16
1 6 8 11 14 18
1 6 9 10 15 17
2 4 7 11 13 18
2 4 8 10 14 17
2 4 9 12 15 16
2 5 7 11 14 16
2 5 8 10 15 18
2 5 9 12 13 17
2 6 7 11 15 17
2 6 8 10 13 16
2 6 9 12 14 18
3 4 7 10 15 16
3 4 8 12 13 18
3 4 9 11 14 17
3 5 7 10 13 17
3 5 8 12 14 16
3 5 9 11 15 18
3 6 7 10 14 18
3 6 8 12 15 17
3 6 9 11 13 16
4 5 6 7 8 9
4 5 6 10 11 12
4 5 6 13 14 15
4 5 6 16 17 18
7 8 9 10 11 12
7 8 9 13 14 15
7 8 9 16 17 18
10 11 12 13 14 15
10 11 12 16 17 18
13 14 15 16 17 18
1 2 7 8 10 12
1 3 7 9 11 12
2 3 8 9 10 11
4 5 13 14 16 18
4 6 13 15 17 18
5 6 14 15 16 17
Robert Perkis copyright 2003 Lotto-Logix.com
a very nice work and description from you.
Look at my following super wheel.
It is the best available 18,6,3,3-48 Covering Design.
4if5 we get on 85.29% and 4if4 we get on 23.52% of the possible drawings.
Also the 3if3 is improved against all other 3if3in18 because only
690 of all possibilities have once 3 right, all other possible drawns
have 2 times or 5 times 3 right if 3 of the 18 are within the 6 drawn numbers.
Other 18,6,3,3-48 have at 720 (like yours), 728 or 730 possible drawns
once 3 right.
Good luck, Manfred
super 18,6,3,3-48 Covering Design with 85.29% 18,6,4,5
and 100% 18,6,4,6:
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 7 8 9
1 2 4 10 11 12
1 2 8 11 13 14
1 2 15 16 17 18
1 3 5 10 13 15
1 3 7 10 11 18
1 3 12 14 16 17
1 4 5 8 14 18
1 4 7 13 16 17
1 4 9 10 14 15
1 5 7 8 12 15
1 5 9 11 16 17
1 6 7 11 14 15
1 6 8 10 16 17
1 6 9 12 13 18
2 3 6 11 13 17
2 3 9 10 13 16
2 3 12 14 15 18
2 4 6 9 14 16
2 4 7 13 15 18
2 4 8 9 12 17
2 5 7 10 14 17
2 5 8 12 13 16
2 5 9 11 15 18
2 6 7 11 12 16
2 6 8 10 15 18
3 4 7 12 13 14
3 4 8 11 15 16
3 4 9 10 17 18
3 5 6 7 16 18
3 5 8 13 17 18
3 5 9 11 12 14
3 6 7 9 15 17
3 6 8 10 12 14
4 5 6 12 15 17
4 5 7 9 11 13
4 5 10 12 16 18
4 6 7 8 10 13
4 6 11 14 17 18
5 6 8 9 10 11
5 6 13 14 15 16
7 8 9 14 16 18
7 8 11 12 17 18
7 9 10 12 15 16
8 9 13 14 15 17
10 11 12 13 15 17
10 11 13 14 16 18
Robert Perkis <rob...@icdus.com> wrote in message news:<3E66BBCD...@icdus.com>...
I think my wheel is as good as it can be and retain the
Dimitrov 3+3 lines that allow the Jackpot to be targeted
(not that I won't try).
For software that doesn't allow one to position their
numbers to load the wheel in a specific order your wheel
would be best. For those willing to group their numbers
in sub-sets of three they believe will hit together and
hand load the wheel on paper, I think my wheel provides
a unique opportunity to play for a Jackpot at virtually
zero additional cost in cash or coverage over the usual
3if3 and 4if6 in 18# wheels individually or combined.
In both wheels, I think we're advancing the concept of
wheels within wheels covering multiple scenarios at
little or no additional cost to cover/play. Power to
the player!
Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/
> > 1-2-3+7-8-9, etc. Of course you won't be playing 1-2-3-4-5-6,
Thanks for the push, turns out the wheel can be made
that tight even with the blocks. Don't know if there
is a 4if6 in there that can be seperated out in 42
lines, but it's in there as part of the 48.
Remember people, you can work the blocks for a Jackpot
shot without any risk to the traditional 3if3 and 4if6
coverage you'd normally enjoy. It's a freebie !!!
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 7 8 9
1 2 3 10 11 12
1 2 3 13 14 15
1 2 3 16 17 18
1 4 7 10 15 18
1 4 7 12 13 17
1 4 8 11 14 18
1 4 9 12 14 16
1 5 7 11 14 17
1 5 8 10 13 16
1 5 9 12 15 18
1 6 7 11 15 16
1 6 8 12 15 17
1 6 9 10 14 17
1 6 9 11 13 18
2 4 7 11 13 16
2 4 8 10 14 17
2 4 8 12 15 16
2 4 9 10 13 18
2 5 7 10 15 17
2 5 8 11 15 18
2 5 9 11 14 16
2 5 9 12 13 17
2 6 7 12 14 18
2 6 8 11 13 17
2 6 9 10 15 16
3 4 7 10 14 16
3 4 8 12 13 18
3 4 9 11 15 17
3 5 7 11 13 18
3 5 7 12 15 16
3 5 8 12 14 17
3 5 9 10 14 18
3 6 7 10 13 17
3 6 8 10 15 18
3 6 8 11 14 16
3 6 9 12 13 16
4 5 6 7 8 9
4 5 6 10 11 12
4 5 6 13 14 15
4 5 6 16 17 18
7 8 9 10 11 12
7 8 9 13 14 15
7 8 9 16 17 18
10 11 12 13 14 15
10 11 12 16 17 18
13 14 15 16 17 18
Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/
Copyright for free public use. 2003
> > 1-2-3+7-8-9, etc. Of course you won't be playing 1-2-3-4-5-6,
Here's one I've just improved after seeing the above, I know the remaining
4if6 (4missing) can be achieved in 25blocks so maybe it will fit in here
somewhere.
Anyone beat my attempt so far?
gARY
(16,6,3,3)38
T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
----------------------------------------------------
2 If 2 : 120 120 100.00000 0 0.00000
-------/\/---------All 100%--------/\/------------
3 If 7 : 11,440 11,440 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 4 : 1,820 566 31.09890 1,254 68.90110
4 If 5 : 4,368 4,033 92.33059 335 7.66941
4 If 6 : 8,008 8,004 99.95005 4 0.04995
1 2 3 4 7 8
1 2 3 6 13 16
1 2 5 6 10 14
1 2 9 12 14 16
1 2 10 11 13 15
1 3 5 8 15 16
1 3 6 7 13 14
1 3 9 10 11 12
1 4 5 7 9 15
1 4 5 7 11 12
1 4 6 8 9 10
1 4 7 10 13 16
1 4 8 11 14 15
1 5 8 9 12 13
1 6 11 12 15 16
2 3 5 7 9 10
2 3 6 8 11 12
2 3 7 11 14 15
2 4 5 8 13 14
2 4 5 9 11 16
2 4 6 7 15 16
2 4 8 10 12 16
2 5 7 12 13 15
2 6 8 9 13 15
3 4 5 6 10 15
3 4 9 12 13 15
3 4 10 11 14 16
3 5 7 12 14 16
3 5 8 10 11 13
3 6 8 9 14 16
4 6 7 9 12 14
4 6 11 12 13 14
5 6 7 8 10 11
5 6 9 11 14 15
5 6 10 12 13 16
7 8 9 11 13 16
7 8 10 12 14 15
9 10 13 14 15 16
1 2 3 4 7 12
1 2 5 6 11 12
1 2 5 8 13 16
1 2 6 8 14 15
1 2 7 8 9 10
1 2 9 12 13 16
1 3 5 10 12 15
1 3 6 7 9 13
1 3 7 11 15 16
1 3 8 12 13 14
1 4 5 9 13 15
1 4 6 10 14 16
1 4 8 10 11 13
1 5 7 9 11 14
2 3 5 9 14 16
2 3 6 10 13 15
2 3 8 10 11 16
2 4 5 10 12 14
2 4 6 9 11 15
2 4 7 11 13 14
2 4 8 12 15 16
2 5 6 7 15 16
3 4 5 6 7 8
3 4 5 11 13 16
3 4 8 9 14 15
3 4 9 10 11 12
3 6 7 10 11 14
3 6 11 12 14 16
4 6 11 12 13 15
4 7 9 10 15 16
5 6 9 10 13 14
5 7 10 12 13 16
5 8 9 12 14 15
5 8 10 11 14 15
6 7 8 9 10 12
6 8 9 11 13 16
7 8 11 12 14 15
7 8 13 14 15 16
And of course the 16numbers still with the 1missing. I think there is slim
chance to close the 20number but I did try, also there will be no chance to
close 21numbers (and above) as a 21,6,3,3=77 and a 21,6,4,6=80 as I'm sure
you are aware.
I will have another go sometime.
Good luck,
gARY
"Robert Perkis" wrote
gARY wrote:
>
> Better than I had so an improvement, I have a collection now from 7numbers
> to 20numbers with just these missing from the 4if6 to make it complete:-
> 19numbers 7missing
> 20numbers 330missing
>
> And of course the 16numbers still with the 1missing. I think there is slim
> chance to close the 20number but I did try, also there will be no chance to
> close 21numbers (and above) as a 21,6,3,3=77 and a 21,6,4,6=80 as I'm sure
> you are aware.
I'm at 100 lines to combine those two with sub-set blocks
and thinking it may be worth it, all things considered.
Part of the problem is nowadays people are improving wheels
all too well, as software only a few years old has 21,6,4,6 in
108 lines so I thought I was really improving things. Beyond
that is seeing if that 21,6,4,6=80 is good for lotto or just
a split wheel or other worthless to lotto players illusion of
value. So many factors you have to take into account <sigh>.
Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/
>
Also I have implemented that each of the 7 3-number blocks is
combined with every other of the 6 remaining 3-number blocks.
Good luck, Manfred
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 7 8 9
1 2 3 10 11 12
1 2 3 13 14 15
1 2 3 16 17 18
1 2 3 19 20 21
1 2 5 8 11 19
1 2 8 12 17 21
1 3 5 6 10 16
1 3 11 13 18 20
1 4 7 10 13 16
1 4 7 15 17 19
1 4 8 11 14 17
1 4 9 12 15 18
1 4 10 14 18 19
1 4 11 15 16 21
1 4 12 13 16 20
1 5 7 11 15 20
1 5 8 10 18 20
1 5 9 10 13 21
1 5 9 13 17 20
1 5 12 14 16 20
1 6 7 14 18 21
1 6 8 12 13 19
1 6 9 11 16 20
1 6 10 15 17 20
1 7 8 12 15 16
1 8 9 14 16 19
1 9 15 17 18 19
2 3 4 9 10 16
2 3 6 7 10 19
2 3 7 11 13 17
2 4 5 14 17 21
2 4 7 11 18 20
2 4 8 10 15 19
2 4 8 13 18 21
2 4 12 14 16 19
2 5 7 10 14 17
2 5 8 11 13 16
2 5 9 14 18 19
2 5 12 15 18 20
2 6 7 12 15 16
2 6 8 11 14 20
2 6 9 10 13 18
2 6 11 12 18 21
2 6 13 16 17 19
2 7 10 13 16 20
2 7 10 15 18 21
2 9 11 15 17 20
2 9 12 13 16 21
3 4 5 10 15 18
3 4 6 12 15 20
3 4 7 12 14 21
3 4 8 15 16 20
3 4 9 10 14 20
3 4 9 10 17 21
3 4 9 11 13 19
3 5 7 13 16 21
3 5 8 12 14 18
3 5 8 14 17 19
3 5 9 12 18 20
3 5 11 15 17 19
3 6 7 14 18 20
3 6 8 11 17 21
3 6 9 15 18 21
3 6 12 13 16 20
3 7 11 14 16 19
3 7 12 14 17 20
3 7 12 15 18 19
3 8 10 13 17 19
3 8 10 13 18 21
3 8 12 15 16 17
4 5 6 7 8 9
4 5 6 10 11 12
4 5 6 13 14 15
4 5 6 16 17 18
4 5 6 19 20 21
4 8 12 13 17 20
5 7 9 12 17 19
5 7 12 13 18 19
5 8 12 15 17 21
5 9 10 15 16 19
5 9 11 14 18 21
6 7 11 13 17 21
6 8 10 14 16 21
6 8 11 15 18 19
6 9 12 14 17 19
7 8 9 10 11 12
7 8 9 13 14 15
7 8 9 16 17 18
7 8 9 19 20 21
10 11 12 13 14 15
10 11 12 16 17 18
10 11 12 19 20 21
13 14 15 16 17 18
13 14 15 19 20 21
16 17 18 19 20 21
Robert Perkis <rob...@icdus.com> wrote in message news:<3E6C07DA...@icdus.com>...
So now we go into using more lines than the 3if3, why didn't I think of
that!
I quite like the payout returned and the whole covering on the (18,6,4,5)81,
until I see the split 9's over the first 75tickets, however I'm still
putting it in me 'Supa Wheels' folder. :)
Wheeling on,
gARY
"Manfred" wrote
100% 4if6, 3if3 plus 3+3 Jackpot blocks 21 numbers 96 lines.
If you want to use this wheel to full advantage, when you
write your best numbers under the 01-21 pointer numbers to
exchange for mine in the lines below, do so in groups of
three numbers you believe will hit together as a group. The
wheel puts each 3# group in contact with each of the other
6 groups, get any two right = instant jackpot. Get a group
of three and a group of two right = instant 5# prize, and
so on. Unique opportunity to target a jackpot while playing
a 4if6 and 3if3 wheel all at the same time. Triple dip!!!
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 7 8 9
1 2 3 10 11 12
1 2 3 13 14 15
1 2 3 16 17 18
1 2 3 19 20 21
1 2 4 9 16 20
1 2 5 10 13 21
1 2 7 11 12 19
1 2 8 12 17 21
1 3 6 9 15 21
1 3 11 13 18 20
1 4 7 10 13 16
1 4 7 15 17 19
1 4 8 11 14 17
1 4 9 12 15 18
1 4 11 15 16 21
1 5 7 11 15 20
1 5 7 12 20 21
1 5 8 10 18 20
1 5 8 14 17 19
1 5 8 15 16 19
1 5 9 13 17 20
1 5 12 14 16 20
1 6 7 14 18 21
1 6 8 12 13 19
1 6 9 11 16 20
1 6 10 15 17 20
1 9 10 14 18 19
1 11 13 14 16 21
2 3 5 9 13 17
2 3 5 10 15 21
2 3 6 12 18 21
2 4 7 11 18 20
2 4 8 10 15 19
2 4 8 13 18 21
2 4 11 14 17 21
2 4 12 14 16 19
2 5 7 10 14 17
2 5 8 11 13 16
2 5 9 14 18 19
2 5 12 15 18 20
2 6 7 12 15 16
2 6 8 11 14 20
2 6 9 10 13 18
2 6 13 16 17 19
2 7 9 17 19 21
2 7 10 13 16 20
2 7 10 15 18 21
2 9 11 15 17 20
2 9 12 13 16 21
3 4 7 10 15 18
3 4 7 12 14 21
3 4 8 15 16 20
3 4 9 10 17 21
3 4 9 11 13 19
3 4 11 14 18 19
3 4 12 15 18 19
3 5 7 13 16 21
3 5 8 12 14 18
3 5 9 10 12 20
3 5 11 15 17 19
3 6 7 10 15 19
3 6 7 14 18 20
3 6 8 11 17 21
3 6 12 13 16 20
3 7 11 14 16 19
3 7 12 14 17 20
3 8 9 12 16 20
3 8 10 13 17 19
3 9 10 14 16 18
4 5 6 7 8 9
4 5 6 10 11 12
4 5 6 13 14 15
4 5 6 16 17 18
4 5 6 19 20 21
4 8 12 13 17 20
4 9 10 14 18 20
5 7 12 13 18 19
5 8 12 15 17 21
5 9 10 15 16 19
5 9 11 14 18 21
6 7 11 13 17 21
6 8 10 14 16 21
6 8 11 15 18 19
6 9 12 14 17 19
7 8 9 10 11 12
7 8 9 13 14 15
7 8 9 16 17 18
7 8 9 19 20 21
10 11 12 13 14 15
10 11 12 16 17 18
10 11 12 19 20 21
13 14 15 16 17 18
13 14 15 19 20 21
16 17 18 19 20 21
T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
----------------------------------------------------
2 If 2 : 210 210 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 3 : 1,330 1,330 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 4 : 5,985 5,985 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 5 : 20,349 20,349 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 6 : 54,264 54,264 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 7 : 116,280 116,280 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 3 : 1,330 1,330 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 4 : 5,985 5,985 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 5 : 20,349 20,349 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 6 : 54,264 54,264 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 7 : 116,280 116,280 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 4 : 5,985 1,407 23.50877 4,578 76.49123
4 If 5 : 20,349 16,300 80.10222 4,049 19.89778
4 If 6 : 54,264 54,264 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 7 : 116,280 116,280 100.00000 0 0.00000
5 If 5 : 20,349 576 2.83061 19,773 97.16939
5 If 6 : 54,264 8,600 15.84844 45,664 84.15156
5 If 7 : 116,280 54,638 46.98830 61,642 53.01170
6 If 7 : 116,280 1,440 1.23839 114,840 98.76161
Standing on the shoulders of giants . . . Thanks Manfred
for the leg up.
Copy right with source credited for free public use 2003.
Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/
> Robert Perkis
Nice going!!
Wanna "triple toe loop"? ;)
One I'm still working on, below.
gARY
T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
----------------------------------------------------
2 If 2 : 78 78 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 3 : 286 286 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 4 : 715 715 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 5 : 1,287 1,287 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 3 : 286 286 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 4 : 715 715 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 5 : 1,287 1,287 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 4 : 715 692 96.78322 23 3.21678
4 If 5 : 1,287 1,287 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
5 If 5 : 1,287 390 30.30303 897 69.69697
5 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
5 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
6 If 7 : 1,716 459 26.74825 1,257 73.25175
Just the 23missing from a 4if4 (96%) !!!!
(13,6,5,6)63
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 5 6 11
1 2 3 6 7 12
1 2 3 8 9 10
1 2 4 6 9 12
1 2 4 7 8 10
1 2 4 7 11 13
1 2 5 6 7 9
1 2 5 8 10 12
1 2 5 9 10 13
1 2 6 8 11 13
1 2 6 10 11 13
1 2 8 10 11 13
1 2 9 11 12 13
1 3 4 5 8 11
1 3 4 6 11 13
1 3 4 7 9 13
1 3 4 10 12 13
1 3 5 7 10 13
1 3 5 9 12 13
1 3 6 9 10 11
1 3 7 8 11 12
1 4 5 6 8 13
1 4 5 7 12 13
1 4 5 9 10 11
1 4 6 7 10 11
1 4 8 9 11 12
1 5 6 10 11 12
1 5 7 8 9 11
1 6 7 8 12 13
1 6 8 9 10 13
1 7 9 10 11 12
2 3 4 7 9 11
2 3 4 8 12 13
2 3 4 10 11 12
2 3 5 7 8 13
2 3 5 7 10 11
2 3 5 9 11 12
2 3 6 9 10 13
2 4 5 6 8 11
2 4 5 7 11 12
2 4 5 8 9 10
2 4 5 8 9 13
2 4 5 10 11 13
2 4 6 7 10 13
2 5 6 10 12 13
2 6 7 8 11 12
2 6 8 9 10 11
2 7 8 9 12 13
2 7 9 10 12 13
3 4 5 6 11 13
3 4 5 9 10 12
3 4 6 7 8 9
3 4 6 7 9 12
3 4 6 8 10 12
3 5 6 7 8 10
3 5 6 8 9 12
3 6 7 8 10 12
3 6 7 11 12 13
3 8 9 10 11 13
4 5 7 8 10 12
4 5 8 9 10 13
4 6 9 11 12 13
4 7 8 10 11 13
5 6 7 9 10 12
5 6 7 9 11 13
5 8 10 11 12 13
(13,6,5,6)67
The 4if4 can be met in 66blocks
Question?
Is this design better?
It guarantees 11 tiles 4 if 6
Made with LottoDesignerXL Ver. 2.0
to come out soon...
LD(13,6,4,6,L=11)=67
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 4 7 8
1 2 3 9 10 11
1 2 3 5 7 9
1 2 4 8 9 12
1 2 4 6 8 10
1 2 4 7 9 10
1 2 5 7 9 11
1 2 5 7 10 11
1 2 5 8 9 13
1 2 5 6 9 13
1 2 6 8 12 13
1 2 6 8 10 11
1 3 4 7 12 13
1 3 4 10 11 12
1 3 4 8 11 13
1 3 5 6 11 13
1 3 5 7 8 12
1 3 6 7 9 13
1 3 6 8 9 11
1 3 6 7 11 12
1 4 5 10 11 13
1 4 5 8 12 13
1 4 5 6 11 12
1 4 7 8 10 11
1 5 6 10 11 12
1 5 6 9 10 12
1 5 9 10 12 13
1 6 7 9 10 13
1 6 7 8 9 13
1 7 9 10 11 12
2 3 4 9 12 13
2 3 4 9 10 12
2 3 4 6 10 13
2 3 4 6 11 12
2 3 5 8 11 12
2 3 6 7 8 10
2 3 6 10 12 13
2 3 8 10 11 13
2 4 5 6 8 9
2 4 5 7 11 13
2 4 6 7 8 10
2 5 6 7 8 12
2 5 7 8 11 13
2 5 9 11 12 13
2 6 7 11 12 13
2 6 7 9 12 13
2 7 8 10 11 12
3 4 5 10 11 13
3 4 5 6 8 12
3 4 5 7 10 13
3 4 5 6 7 13
3 5 6 9 10 13
3 5 6 7 8 13
3 5 7 9 10 12
3 5 8 9 10 11
3 6 7 8 9 11
3 7 8 9 11 12
3 8 9 10 12 13
4 5 6 9 11 12
4 5 6 9 10 13
4 5 7 8 10 11
4 6 7 9 10 11
4 6 8 9 11 13
4 7 8 10 12 13
4 7 9 11 12 13
4 8 9 10 12 13
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The point being to find ways to get more out of a wheel
at little to no additional cost to play, I'd say this
wheel qualifies. Robert Perkis
1 2 3 4 8 13
1 2 3 5 6 11
1 2 3 5 10 13
1 2 3 7 9 12
1 2 4 5 9 10
1 2 4 6 7 10
1 2 4 8 11 12
1 2 5 7 10 11
1 2 5 8 9 13
1 2 5 8 10 12
1 2 6 8 12 13
1 2 6 9 10 11
1 2 7 8 11 13
1 3 4 5 6 9
1 3 4 7 9 11
1 3 4 7 10 12
1 3 4 8 9 10
1 3 5 7 8 12
1 3 6 7 9 13
1 3 6 8 10 11
1 3 6 11 12 13
1 4 5 6 7 8
1 4 5 7 9 13
1 4 5 11 12 13
1 4 6 8 9 12
1 4 6 10 11 13
1 5 6 7 12 13
1 5 6 10 11 12
1 5 8 9 11 12
1 6 7 9 11 12
1 7 8 9 10 13
1 9 10 11 12 13
2 3 4 5 6 10
2 3 4 5 7 13
2 3 4 6 9 13
2 3 4 9 11 12
2 3 5 8 9 10
2 3 5 11 12 13
2 3 6 7 8 10
2 3 8 10 11 12
2 4 5 6 8 13
2 4 5 7 11 12
2 4 6 10 11 12
2 4 7 8 9 12
2 4 8 10 12 13
2 5 6 7 9 12
2 5 6 8 9 11
2 6 7 9 11 13
2 7 9 10 12 13
3 4 5 6 7 11
3 4 5 6 8 12
3 4 6 7 12 13
3 4 7 8 11 13
3 4 7 10 11 13
3 5 6 9 11 13
3 5 7 9 10 12
3 5 8 10 11 13
3 6 8 9 12 13
3 6 9 10 12 13
3 7 8 9 10 11
4 5 8 9 10 11
4 5 9 10 12 13
4 6 7 8 9 10
4 6 8 9 11 13
5 6 7 8 10 13
5 7 8 11 12 13
6 7 8 10 11 12
Or we could close it for a slight loss (as of my last) on the 5if6 and have
a minimum: win of:-
1* 4hit 'and' 12-20 3hits if 4 get drawn
Or a minimum prize of 4*3hit for just 3drawn.
gARY
T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
----------------------------------------------------
2 If 2 : 78 78 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 3 : 286 286 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 4 : 715 715 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 5 : 1,287 1,287 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 3 : 286 286 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 4 : 715 715 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 5 : 1,287 1,287 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 4 : 715 715 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 5 : 1,287 1,287 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
5 If 5 : 1,287 391 30.38073 896 69.61927
5 If 6 : 1,716 1,704 99.30070 12 0.69930
5 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
6 If 7 : 1,716 461 26.86480 1,255 73.13520
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 6 7 12
1 2 3 7 11 13
1 2 3 8 9 10
1 2 4 5 9 10
1 2 4 5 11 13
1 2 4 6 9 12
1 2 4 7 8 10
1 2 5 6 7 9
1 2 5 6 8 13
1 2 5 8 10 12
1 2 6 10 11 13
1 2 8 10 11 13
1 2 9 11 12 13
1 3 4 5 8 11
1 3 4 7 9 13
1 3 4 10 12 13
1 3 5 7 10 13
1 3 5 9 12 13
1 3 6 8 11 13
1 3 6 9 10 11
1 3 7 8 11 12
1 4 5 6 8 13
1 4 5 7 12 13
1 4 6 7 10 11
1 4 8 9 11 12
1 5 6 10 11 12
1 5 7 8 9 11
1 6 7 8 12 13
1 6 8 9 10 13
1 7 9 10 11 12
2 3 4 7 9 11
2 3 4 8 12 13
2 3 4 10 11 12
2 3 5 6 8 11
2 3 5 7 8 13
2 3 5 7 10 11
2 3 5 9 11 12
2 3 6 9 10 13
2 4 5 7 11 12
2 4 5 8 9 13
2 4 6 7 10 13
2 4 6 8 10 11
2 5 6 10 12 13
2 6 7 8 11 12
2 6 8 9 10 11
2 7 8 9 12 13
2 7 9 10 12 13
3 4 5 6 11 13
3 4 5 7 9 12
3 4 5 9 10 12
3 4 6 7 8 9
3 4 6 8 10 12
3 4 7 9 10 12
3 5 6 7 8 10
3 5 6 8 9 12
3 6 7 11 12 13
3 8 9 10 11 13
4 5 6 7 8 12
4 5 6 9 10 11
4 5 7 9 10 12
4 5 8 9 10 13
4 6 9 11 12 13
4 7 8 10 11 13
5 6 7 9 11 13
5 8 10 11 12 13
6 7 8 9 10 12
No it does *not*
Not even L=8 ===> 4 missing
1 2 3 4 6 12
1 5 7 8 9 11
2 3 4 8 12 13
5 6 7 9 11 13
These blocks do not cover L=8
How can you have 14?????
This may have been a bad "cut en' tuck" on my part if you didn't see Roberts
last.
I don't know and didn't check the wheel/s as I thought mine were best. :)
Roberts last below, just in case like.
Regards,
gARY
Robert wrote.............
Oops, that wasn't a 4if4, only a nice multi-prize 4if6.
If we're not going to close the 4if4 portion, this one
gives 14 - 4# prizes 14=(13,6,4,6=67). Robert
1 2 3 4 8 13
1 2 3 5 6 11
1 2 3 5 10 13
1 2 3 7 9 12
1 2 4 5 9 10
1 2 4 6 7 10
1 2 4 8 11 12
1 2 5 7 10 11
1 2 5 8 9 13
1 2 5 8 10 12
1 2 6 8 12 13
1 2 6 9 10 11
1 2 7 8 11 13
1 3 4 5 6 9
1 3 4 7 9 11
1 3 4 7 10 12
1 3 4 8 9 10
1 3 5 7 8 12
1 3 6 7 9 13
1 3 6 8 10 11
1 3 6 11 12 13
1 4 5 6 7 8
1 4 5 7 9 13
1 4 5 11 12 13
1 4 6 8 9 12
1 4 6 10 11 13
1 5 6 7 12 13
1 5 6 10 11 12
1 5 8 9 11 12
1 6 7 9 11 12
1 7 8 9 10 13
1 9 10 11 12 13
2 3 4 5 6 10
2 3 4 5 7 13
2 3 4 6 9 13
2 3 4 9 11 12
2 3 5 8 9 10
2 3 5 11 12 13
2 3 6 7 8 10
2 3 8 10 11 12
2 4 5 6 8 13
2 4 5 7 11 12
2 4 6 10 11 12
2 4 7 8 9 12
2 4 8 10 12 13
2 5 6 7 9 12
2 5 6 8 9 11
2 6 7 9 11 13
2 7 9 10 12 13
3 4 5 6 7 11
3 4 5 6 8 12
3 4 6 7 12 13
3 4 7 8 11 13
3 4 7 10 11 13
3 5 6 9 11 13
3 5 7 9 10 12
3 5 8 10 11 13
3 6 8 9 12 13
3 6 9 10 12 13
3 7 8 9 10 11
4 5 8 9 10 11
4 5 9 10 12 13
4 6 7 8 9 10
4 6 8 9 11 13
5 6 7 8 10 13
5 7 8 11 12 13
6 7 8 10 11 12
The point gARY is that the software you use
is giving you the *wrong* answer.
On 'multiple wins'?
Are you saying my post is wrong as well?
If so, news to me as I only use CM to verify this.
I wonder what Robert used.
gARY
I make this one Nick,
6hit.....
A mimimum of 14*4hit plus 27*3hit
4if4 shows these 12missing:-
02 03 06 12
02 03 07 11
02 04 11 13
02 05 07 08
02 06 10 13
02 10 11 13
03 07 11 12
04 05 07 10
05 06 09 10
05 07 08 09
05 07 09 11
08 09 10 12
Flummoxed,
gARY
L=10 ==> 3 missing
1 3 4 7 10 12 9
1 3 5 7 10 12 9
2 7 9 10 11 13 9
L=11 ==> 27 missing
1 2 3 4 8 11 10
1 2 4 7 8 11 10
1 2 5 7 10 11 10
1 2 7 8 11 13 10
1 3 4 7 10 12 9
1 3 5 7 8 12 10
1 3 5 7 10 12 9
1 4 5 9 12 13 10
2 3 4 9 11 12 10
2 3 4 10 11 12 10
2 3 6 7 8 10 10
2 4 5 7 10 11 10
2 4 6 9 11 13 10
2 4 7 8 9 12 10
2 4 8 10 11 12 10
2 4 9 10 12 13 10
2 5 6 7 9 11 10
2 5 6 7 9 12 10
2 7 9 10 11 13 9
3 4 5 6 8 12 10
3 4 7 10 11 13 10
3 4 7 10 12 13 10
3 5 7 9 10 11 10
3 5 7 9 10 12 10
4 5 8 10 12 13 10
4 5 9 10 12 13 10
5 6 7 8 10 13 10
Covered line 17:-
1 3 4 10 12 13
And line 54
3 4 7 9 10 12
BOTH match 5 and more lines hit with the above 6.
13 match 4's
24 match 3's
Wheel I posted, as below:-
Need I check more Nick?
Am I missing something?
gARY
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 6 7 12
1 2 3 7 11 13
1 2 3 8 9 10
1 2 4 5 9 10
1 2 4 5 11 13
1 2 4 6 9 12
1 2 4 7 8 10
1 2 5 6 7 9
1 2 5 6 8 13
1 2 5 8 10 12
1 2 6 10 11 13
1 2 8 10 11 13
1 2 9 11 12 13
1 3 4 5 8 11
1 3 4 7 9 13
1 3 4 10 12 13
1 3 5 7 10 13
1 3 5 9 12 13
1 3 6 8 11 13
1 3 6 9 10 11
1 3 7 8 11 12
1 4 5 6 8 13
1 4 5 7 12 13
1 4 6 7 10 11
1 4 8 9 11 12
1 5 6 10 11 12
1 5 7 8 9 11
1 6 7 8 12 13
1 6 8 9 10 13
1 7 9 10 11 12
2 3 4 7 9 11
2 3 4 8 12 13
2 3 4 10 11 12
2 3 5 6 8 11
2 3 5 7 8 13
2 3 5 7 10 11
2 3 5 9 11 12
2 3 6 9 10 13
2 4 5 7 11 12
2 4 5 8 9 13
2 4 6 7 10 13
2 4 6 8 10 11
2 5 6 10 12 13
2 6 7 8 11 12
2 6 8 9 10 11
2 7 8 9 12 13
2 7 9 10 12 13
3 4 5 6 11 13
3 4 5 7 9 12
3 4 5 9 10 12
3 4 6 7 8 9
3 4 6 8 10 12
3 4 7 9 10 12
3 5 6 7 8 10
3 5 6 8 9 12
3 6 7 11 12 13
3 8 9 10 11 13
4 5 6 7 8 12
4 5 6 9 10 11
4 5 7 9 10 12
4 5 8 9 10 13
4 6 9 11 12 13
4 7 8 10 11 13
5 6 7 9 11 13
5 8 10 11 12 13
6 7 8 9 10 12
A L=10 **9** and L=11 **10** stuck on the end of the 6's.
Is this the problem? Pick7??
gARY
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"Nick Koutras" <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Copy and paste this wheel into what you are using and
CoverMaster 55.2 and see what you get. I get . . .
If this isn't right, then everything ever done in
CoverMaster is questionable, or what you're using is
wrong or we've got some kind of apples and oranges
thing here.
14 - 4# prizes with 100% 4if6in13n67c
6 5 4 3 % Total Acc %
-----------------------------------------------------------
- - 14 27 1 0.05828 0.05828
- - 15 25-28 12 0.69930 0.75758
- - 16 22-27 30 1.74825 2.50583
- - 17 20-26 17 0.99068 3.49650
- - 18 19-23 11 0.64103 4.13753
- - 19 17-22 5 0.29138 4.42890
- 1 10-18 19-35 586 34.14918 38.57809
- 2 7-16 19-37 756 44.05594 82.63403
- 3 6-14 20-36 212 12.35431 94.98834
- 4 6-10 25-32 19 1.10723 96.09557
1 0-1 8-15 22-38 67 3.90443 100.00000
1 2 3 4 8 13
1 2 3 5 6 11
1 2 3 5 10 13
1 2 3 7 9 12
1 2 4 5 9 10
1 2 4 6 7 10
1 2 4 8 11 12
1 2 5 7 10 11
1 2 5 8 9 13
1 2 5 8 10 12
1 2 6 8 12 13
1 2 6 9 10 11
1 2 7 8 11 13
1 3 4 5 6 9
1 3 4 7 9 11
1 3 4 7 10 12
1 3 4 8 9 10
1 3 5 7 8 12
1 3 6 7 9 13
1 3 6 8 10 11
1 3 6 11 12 13
1 4 5 6 7 8
1 4 5 7 9 13
1 4 5 11 12 13
1 4 6 8 9 12
1 4 6 10 11 13
1 5 6 7 12 13
1 5 6 10 11 12
1 5 8 9 11 12
1 6 7 9 11 12
1 7 8 9 10 13
1 9 10 11 12 13
2 3 4 5 6 10
2 3 4 5 7 13
2 3 4 6 9 13
2 3 4 9 11 12
2 3 5 8 9 10
2 3 5 11 12 13
2 3 6 7 8 10
2 3 8 10 11 12
2 4 5 6 8 13
2 4 5 7 11 12
2 4 6 10 11 12
2 4 7 8 9 12
2 4 8 10 12 13
2 5 6 7 9 12
2 5 6 8 9 11
2 6 7 9 11 13
2 7 9 10 12 13
3 4 5 6 7 11
3 4 5 6 8 12
3 4 6 7 12 13
3 4 7 8 11 13
3 4 7 10 11 13
3 5 6 9 11 13
3 5 7 9 10 12
3 5 8 10 11 13
3 6 8 9 12 13
3 6 9 10 12 13
3 7 8 9 10 11
4 5 8 9 10 11
4 5 9 10 12 13
4 6 7 8 9 10
4 6 8 9 11 13
5 6 7 8 10 13
5 7 8 11 12 13
6 7 8 10 11 12
T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
----------------------------------------------------
2 If 2 : 78 78 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 3 : 286 286 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 4 : 715 715 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 5 : 1,287 1,287 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 3 : 286 286 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 4 : 715 715 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 5 : 1,287 1,287 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 4 : 715 703 98.32168 12 1.67832
4 If 5 : 1,287 1,287 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 6 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
5 If 5 : 1,287 400 31.08003 887 68.91997
5 If 6 : 1,716 1,640 95.57110 76 4.42890
5 If 7 : 1,716 1,716 100.00000 0 0.00000
6 If 7 : 1,716 467 27.21445 1,249 72.78555
I just tried a copy and paste of the above wheel in
CoverMaster 54.1 and got the exact same reports.
As for those four lines you quote, I don't even see
them in my wheel???
Robert Perkis
Follow my notes on the proper paragraph.
Robert Perkis wrote:
> Nick: cc: John:
>
> Copy and paste this wheel into what you are using and
> CoverMaster 55.2 and see what you get. I get . . .
> If this isn't right, then everything ever done in
> CoverMaster is questionable,
Not at all Robert.
The error is *only* on "Detailed Report"
I do not thing that any of you was using multiple wins.
or what you're using is
> wrong
What I use is "LottoDesignerXL ver 2.0"
Is not published yet.
It produces multiple wins, as the example I provided
for L=11 100% guaranteed
and these multiple wins can be achieved with as many
Hypotheses/Constraints the player can provide!
or we've got some kind of apples and oranges
> thing here.
>
> 14 - 4# prizes with 100% 4if6in13n67c
>
> 6 5 4 3 % Total Acc %
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> - - 14 27 1 0.05828 0.05828
> - - 15 25-28 12 0.69930 0.75758
> - - 16 22-27 30 1.74825 2.50583
> - - 17 20-26 17 0.99068 3.49650
> - - 18 19-23 11 0.64103 4.13753
> - - 19 17-22 5 0.29138 4.42890
> - 1 10-18 19-35 586 34.14918 38.57809
> - 2 7-16 19-37 756 44.05594 82.63403
> - 3 6-14 20-36 212 12.35431 94.98834
> - 4 6-10 25-32 19 1.10723 96.09557
> 1 0-1 8-15 22-38 67 3.90443 100.00000
Here are the correct results for your design at 4 if 6 level
L Missing
9 3
10 24
11 93
12 173
13 371
14 433
15 312
16 202
17 73
18 26
19 6
-----------
Sum = 1716
Please do not doubt my results.
I know they are correct!
Somoene else that may have some program to do this test
can verify the results and post his answer.
Gary the 9 or 10 indicates the number of times is covered.
>
> Is this the problem? Pick7??
>
> gARY
>
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> http://www.justservices.com/9ukp.html
>
>
> "Nick Koutras" <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pq8ca.21933$a41....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
>
>>Your covers L=9 100%
>>
>>L=10 ==> 3 missing
>>
>>1 3 4 7 10 12 9
>>1 3 5 7 10 12 9
>>2 7 9 10 11 13 9
Ticket 1,3,4,7,10,12 = covered 9 times
Ticket 1,3,5,7,10,12 = ....
and so on... for the tickets below
I hope you get the point!
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"gARY" <Find-Contact-Page@Website> wrote in message news:<3e690...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>...
> Nice touch Robert and Manfred!
> *2 no less and will not be beaten, I tried. :)
>
> Here's one I've just improved after seeing the above, I know the remaining
> 4if6 (4missing) can be achieved in 25blocks so maybe it will fit in here
> somewhere.
>
> Anyone beat my attempt so far?
I was claiming to have improved gARY's wheel below, now after 5tries
the following wheel is found.
T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
----------------------------------------------------
4 If 4 : 1 820 566 31,09890 1 254 68,90110
4 If 5 : 4 368 4 044 92,58242 324 7,41758 <<-- Improved
4 if 6 : Covered 100%
5 If 5 : 4 368 228 5,21978 4 140 94,78022
5 If 6 : 8 008 2 302 28,74625 5 706 71,25375
5 If 7 : 11 440 8 596 75,13986 2 844 24,86014
6 If 7 : 11 440 380 3,32168 11 060 96,67832
If no improvements to this exist, I can post the wheel.
/Pr
Hi John,
Robert post the following wheel
and indicated that this design is c(13,6,4,6,L=14)=67
Please note that I repost the wheel because
I originaly reported the errors for another wheel.
The above design does not have L=14.
The lines below are not covered ==> L=10, 3 of them.
Enter them into the "Find" function to see the score.
But that where the error is I think:
It reports wrong.
1 3 4 7 10 12
1 3 5 7 10 12
2 7 9 10 11 13
The lines below are not covered ==> L=11, 24 of them
plus the 3 above 27 missing from L=11
but some are covered 9 times and some 10
1 2 3 4 8 11
1 2 4 7 8 11
1 2 5 7 10 11
1 2 7 8 11 13
1 3 4 7 10 12
1 3 5 7 8 12
1 3 5 7 10 12
1 4 5 9 12 13
2 3 4 9 11 12
2 3 4 10 11 12
2 3 6 7 8 10
2 4 5 7 10 11
2 4 6 9 11 13
2 4 7 8 9 12
2 4 8 10 11 12
2 4 9 10 12 13
2 5 6 7 9 11
2 5 6 7 9 12
2 7 9 10 11 13
3 4 5 6 8 12
3 4 7 10 11 13
3 4 7 10 12 13
3 5 7 9 10 11
3 5 7 9 10 12
4 5 8 10 12 13
4 5 9 10 12 13
5 6 7 8 10 13
Yet the detailed report indicates the following:
6 5 4 3 % Total
Acc %
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- - 16 24-27 5 0.29138
0.29138
- - 17 24-26 4 0.23310
0.52448
- - 18 19-23 2 0.11655
0.64103
- - 19 21 1 0.05828
0.69930
- 1 10-18 19-34 723 42.13287
42.83217
- 2 7-15 21-37 686 39.97669
82.80886
- 3 4-13 23-40 215 12.52914
95.33800
- 4 4-11 25-37 13 0.75758
96.09557
1 0-3 6-14 26-43 67 3.90443
100.00000
Which is at error.
The above design is: c(13,6,4,6,L=9)=67
IHIH
Nick
What is the advantage of one line more at your wheel?
Manfred
C(13,6,4,4)=66 from Adolf (found at LaJolla)
100% covering 3if3 and all 3if above
100% covering 4if5 and all 4if above
1 2 3 4 5 8
1 2 3 5 6 8
1 2 3 7 9 10
1 2 3 7 9 12
1 2 3 10 11 13
1 2 3 11 12 13
1 2 4 6 7 12
1 2 4 6 9 10
1 2 4 6 11 13
1 2 5 7 8 13
1 2 5 8 9 11
1 2 5 8 10 12
1 2 7 10 11 12
1 2 9 10 12 13
1 3 4 5 6 8
1 3 4 7 8 11
1 3 4 8 9 13
1 3 4 8 10 12
1 3 5 6 7 13
1 3 5 6 9 11
1 3 5 6 10 12
1 3 5 7 10 11
1 3 5 9 12 13
1 4 5 7 9 12
1 4 5 7 10 13
1 4 5 9 10 11
1 4 5 11 12 13
1 6 7 8 9 10
1 6 7 8 11 12
1 6 8 9 12 13
1 6 8 10 11 13
1 7 9 11 12 13
2 3 4 5 6 8
2 3 4 5 7 9
2 3 4 5 10 12
2 3 4 5 11 13
2 3 6 7 8 9
2 3 6 8 10 12
2 3 6 8 11 13
2 3 7 9 11 13
2 4 7 8 10 11
2 4 7 8 12 13
2 4 8 9 10 13
2 4 8 9 11 12
2 5 6 7 10 11
2 5 6 7 12 13
2 5 6 9 10 13
2 5 6 9 11 12
2 7 9 10 11 13
3 4 6 7 10 13
3 4 6 7 11 12
3 4 6 9 10 11
3 4 6 9 12 13
3 5 7 8 11 12
3 5 8 9 10 13
3 7 8 10 12 13
3 8 9 10 11 12
4 5 6 7 8 9
4 5 6 8 10 12
4 5 6 8 11 13
4 5 7 9 11 13
4 6 7 9 10 12
4 6 10 11 12 13
5 7 8 9 10 12
5 8 10 11 12 13
6 7 8 9 11 13
"gARY" <Find-Contact-Page@Website> wrote in message news:<3e70f761$1...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>...
The detailed reports are (to the best of my knowledge) accurate. You
misunderstand them. Take the first line you see as an error :
1 3 4 7 10 12
According to the 'find' function (which does have bugs under some
circumstances), there are 8 match 4's *BUT* there is also a match 6. The
subsets of this match 6 (15 of them) are not added to the match 4 total. If
you look at the bottom line which summarizes what you get AS WELL AS the
match 6, you see that it says 8-15 in the match 4 column, stating there will
be a minimum of 8 match 4's along with the match 6. There are indeed 8 match
4's, the minimum stated.
Likewise for the other 'errors' which all have better than match 4's.
The detailed report is based on a request from Adolf, I replicated the
output of the example he gave me. I agree with Adolf and believe this is the
best way of presenting the multiple win data without reams of printout. Any
other forms of output will be considered upon request.
Hope this helps,
John
"Nick Koutras" <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Lilca.29269$a41....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
I have been trying to cover the 4if4 and the 5if6 in 67lines, this of course
covers the 3if3.
I have made some advances, and the best I have (choice of 2 to play with)
(13,6,5,6)100%@67 (10missing 4if4)
(13,6,4,4)100%@67 (12missing 5if6)
(5if5 covered, around the 30% mark for both)
are as below:-
It would be a nice touch to close this one in 66!!
Good luck,
gARY
(13,6,5,6)100%@67 (10missing 4if4)
T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
----------------------------------------------------
-------/\/-------All 100%------------/\/----------
4 If 4 : 715 705 98.60140 10 1.39860
-------/\/-------All 100%------------/\/----------
5 If 5 : 1,287 388 30.14763 899 69.85237
-------/\/-------All 100%------------/\/----------
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 6 7 12
1 2 3 6 8 13
1 2 3 8 9 10
1 2 4 5 7 12
1 2 4 5 9 10
1 2 4 5 11 13
1 2 4 6 9 12
1 2 4 7 8 10
1 2 5 6 7 9
1 2 5 8 10 12
1 2 6 8 11 13
1 2 7 11 12 13
1 2 9 10 11 13
1 3 4 5 8 11
1 3 4 7 9 13
1 3 4 10 12 13
1 3 5 7 10 13
1 3 5 9 12 13
1 3 6 7 11 12
1 3 6 9 10 11
1 3 7 8 11 12
1 4 5 6 8 13
1 4 6 7 10 11
1 4 8 9 11 12
1 5 6 10 11 12
1 5 7 8 9 11
1 6 7 8 12 13
1 6 8 9 10 13
1 7 9 10 11 12
2 3 4 7 9 11
2 3 4 8 12 13
2 3 4 10 11 12
2 3 5 7 8 13
2 3 5 7 10 11
2 3 5 9 11 12
2 3 6 8 11 13
2 3 6 9 10 13
2 4 5 6 8 11
2 4 5 8 9 13
2 4 5 9 10 13
2 4 6 7 10 13
2 5 6 10 12 13
2 6 7 8 11 12
2 6 8 9 10 11
2 7 8 9 10 12
2 7 8 9 12 13
3 4 5 6 11 13
3 4 5 7 9 12
3 4 5 8 9 10
3 4 6 7 8 9
3 4 6 8 10 12
3 5 6 7 8 10
3 5 6 8 9 12
3 5 7 11 12 13
3 6 7 9 10 12
3 6 7 10 12 13
3 8 9 10 11 13
4 5 6 7 8 12
4 5 6 9 10 11
4 5 7 9 10 12
4 5 7 11 12 13
4 5 8 9 10 13
4 6 9 11 12 13
4 7 8 10 11 13
5 6 7 9 11 13
5 8 10 11 12 13
(13,6,4,4)100%@67 (12missing 5if6)
T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
----------------------------------------------------
-------/\/-------All 100%------------/\/----------
5 If 5 : 1,287 391 30.38073 896 69.61927
5 If 6 : 1,716 1,704 99.30070 12 0.69930
1 2 3 4 5 6
There you are Peter!
I think a few people are having posting and receiving problems.
> I was claiming to have improved gARY's wheel below, now after 5tries
> the following wheel is found.
>
> T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
> ----------------------------------------------------
> 4 If 4 : 1 820 566 31,09890 1 254 68,90110
> 4 If 5 : 4 368 4 044 92,58242 324 7,41758 <<-- Improved
> 4 if 6 : Covered 100%
> 5 If 5 : 4 368 228 5,21978 4 140 94,78022
> 5 If 6 : 8 008 2 302 28,74625 5 706 71,25375
> 5 If 7 : 11 440 8 596 75,13986 2 844 24,86014
> 6 If 7 : 11 440 380 3,32168 11 060 96,67832
>
> If no improvements to this exist, I can post the wheel.
>
> /Pr
Just the 4if6 100% will do for me Peter....38tickets? You win.
Post the goods. :)
Regards,
gARY
Covermaster is counting correctly.
It is a problem of interpretation what the detailed report
shows and therefore the error of Robert's wrong interpretation.
The report says, that in minimum 14 times 4 right numbers
are available, but only if there are not additional 5 or 6
numbers also available with the 6 tested numbers.
But this does not say that L=14. Because:
The report says clear: if once 5 numbers are right,
there can be only 10 times 4 right numbers, which makes
in this case in summary L=1+10=11 and not 14.
Also the report says: if once 6 right numbers are right,
there can be only 8 times 4 numbers be right, what would
make L=1+8=9. But at this point the report is not clear,
because it says also 0...1 5 right numbers are possible
and we don't know whether 5 right number has to be
implemented or not; therefore L could be also 1+1+8=10.
But we see that the minimum could be L=9 for once 6 right.
Manfred
Nick Koutras <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Lilca.29269$a41....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
"Robert's wrong interpretation" are you saying six
correct numbers will not generate at least 14 - 4#
winning tickets from the wheel? Would you prefer
me to say for example, "you have a .001% chance of
a 6# win, or a 16% chance of a 5# win or an 84%
chance of 14 - 4# wins, which are not guaranteed
(but included within the payment of, according to
lottery officials) if you win the 5 or 6# prize."?
Let me point that out again. Even if winning a
higher prize eliminates some of the multiple lower
tier lines/physical tickets, the prizes they would
have paid are included within the higher tier prize
payment. Don't take my word for it, ask your lottery.
Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/
Hi Robert,
yes , that is the fact - if we have 6 numbers right, there
can be the situation that only additional 8 times four numbers are right.
Mathematically we have then L=9.
We have to check each line of the report and have to count L for each line.
The lowest found L is then the guaranteed minimum for the wheel.
We will only get problems if in one line two columns print 0...5 or so.
If 0...5 or so is only in one column, we know that in this column
there can be a zero value and we need not to add this column to
our counting. Therefore in our example we can say that definitely
L=9 for the wheel (instead of 14).
(If we check 4 right, we can ignore the column with 3 right for our counting).
First I thought like you, that L=14.
But then I checked the combinations from Nick's posting and found
that it is true that L=9 for some combinations.
Therefore thanks Nick for opening our eyes.
His statement, that the software makes errors in the detailed report,
is not correct.
Because Covermaster has to check each possible 6 number
combination, there could be implemented a formula which
counts L from all combinations, saves always the lowest L
and then print after finishing in the table : L=.....
It is also right that a higher price will eliminate multiple lower prices,
but the point is that we want to describe the minimum guaranteed
(multiple) combinations of a wheel.
Manfred
I'm on Robert's side, this is rec.gambling.lottery, the minimum (lottery)
prize is 14 x match 4. Being combinatorially technically correct is not
something a lottery player is striving for, it's prizes that matter not what
'L' equals.
it's correct that the minimum price is 14 x match 4.
But it is not correct that L=14 like stated from Robert
by description of his wheel. L=9 for his wheel.
We can read both from the detailed report and should
say one of both and not mix it.
Regards, Manfred
"Honest John" <hones...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<aNYca.90$ae7....@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net>...
Just out of curiosity, I post the following wheel :
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12
and claim "this one gives 2 - 3# prizes 2=(12,6,3,6=2)."
Is that not true ? If it isn't technically accurate is there really any need
to refute it (In a lottery newsgroup) ?
So we can not rebut the claim that the the
wheel below will gurantee me 12 - 3# prices
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12
>
Of course you can, but when I'm off my medication and I claim I'm an orange
from the planet fruiton would there really be much point in jumping on the
tables at the nuthouse, insisting on everyone listening, and proving me
wrong ?
Perhaps somethings sounds bad because of my little
English knowledge - then sorry for that. I don't want to
says only what somebody made wrong. I wanted to
say what I found out so that all understand the report.
If you use combinatorial expressions, then they should
be correct. Nobody says "I have a red pullover and it is
a pair of trousers".
I said, that I made the same misinterpretation like
Robert and I think it is neither a shame for him nor
for me.
It is now clear (I think) what the CM report shows and
we can have fun again with such great super wheels
which Robert initialized and introduced.
Regards, Manfred
"Honest John" <hones...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<r%0da.264$ae7.1...@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net>...
Agreed, but no need for splitting hairs.
>
> Perhaps somethings sounds bad because of my little
> English knowledge - then sorry for that. I don't want to
> says only what somebody made wrong. I wanted to
> say what I found out so that all understand the report.
>
> If you use combinatorial expressions, then they should
> be correct. Nobody says "I have a red pullover and it is
> a pair of trousers".
I do things like that on a regular basis, comes with getting older !
>
> I said, that I made the same misinterpretation like
> Robert and I think it is neither a shame for him nor
> for me.
I don't think Robert did misenterpret the data, in lotto-lingo it's
accurate.
>
> It is now clear (I think) what the CM report shows and
> we can have fun again with such great super wheels
> which Robert initialized and introduced.
Absolutely, and no two footed tackles on CM would be appreciated.
4 If 4 : 1 820 566 31,09890 1 254 68,90110
4 If 5 : 4 368 4 044 92,58242 324 7,41758
5 If 5 : 4 368 228 5,21978 4 140 94,78022
5 If 6 : 8 008 2 302 28,74625 5 706 71,25375
5 If 7 : 11 440 8 596 75,13986 2 844 24,86014
6 If 7 : 11 440 380 3,32168 11 060 96,67832
1 2 3 4 8 13
1 2 5 6 15 16
1 2 7 8 9 10
1 2 11 12 13 14
1 3 5 6 8 12
1 3 5 7 13 14
1 3 5 9 10 11
1 3 7 11 15 16
1 4 5 9 14 15
1 4 6 7 9 12
1 4 6 8 11 14
1 4 6 10 13 16
1 8 9 13 15 16
1 10 12 14 15 16
2 3 5 10 13 15
2 3 6 9 14 16
2 3 7 9 12 15
2 3 8 11 14 15
2 4 5 6 7 11
2 4 7 13 14 16
2 4 8 12 15 16
2 4 9 10 11 16
2 5 6 8 9 13
2 5 6 10 12 14
3 4 5 6 15 16
3 4 7 10 12 14
3 4 8 9 11 13
3 5 8 9 12 14
3 6 7 8 10 16
3 6 11 12 13 16
4 5 7 8 10 15
4 5 11 12 13 15
5 7 9 12 13 16
5 8 10 11 14 16
6 7 8 13 14 15
6 9 10 11 12 15
7 8 10 11 12 13
7 9 10 11 13 14
Hope this helps anyone.
Soon I will start a new page with improved wheels like this at:
http://www.algonet.se/~peteros/Lotto-Wheels/next-gen/
/Pr
T if M Tested Covered % Not Covered %
----------------------------------------------------
2 If 2 : 120 120 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 3 : 560 560 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 4 : 1,820 1,820 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 5 : 4,368 4,368 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 6 : 8,008 8,008 100.00000 0 0.00000
2 If 7 : 11,440 11,440 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 3 : 560 560 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 4 : 1,820 1,820 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 5 : 4,368 4,368 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 6 : 8,008 8,008 100.00000 0 0.00000
3 If 7 : 11,440 11,440 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 4 : 1,820 566 31.09890 1,254 68.90110
4 If 5 : 4,368 4,044 92.58242 324 7.41758
4 If 6 : 8,008 8,008 100.00000 0 0.00000
4 If 7 : 11,440 11,440 100.00000 0 0.00000
5 If 5 : 4,368 228 5.21978 4,140 94.78022
5 If 6 : 8,008 2,302 28.74625 5,706 71.25375
5 If 7 : 11,440 8,596 75.13986 2,844 24.86014
6 If 7 : 11,440 380 3.32168 11,060 96.67832
Way to go!
I have something for the 'Supa wheel' bucket....**163**.......very soon!
Get that page ready,
gARY
"Peter Rosendahl" wrote
You check 3if6 with filter THREE1=lines. 5if6 checks with FIVE=lines.
Guarantee 4of6 generates 40 combs. If you add them to the 38 lines the
wheel covers 4if6.
Wheel632 is much better but runs with at least 10000 combs
(simulated). Put the wheel at the top of the random lines.
H(undred)
Shirley you understand we're talking about a combined 3if3
and 4if6 wheel and not a 6if6 which of course leaves some
of those 6if6 possibilities uncovered. I don't visit Ion's
site, don't want to be accused of stealing ideas or what not.
Cheers. Robert
Manfred
LOTTO-6 Winning Number Checking
Files: 18in38.4o6 ( 38 ) against > No46in38.18 (
1363 )
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Line Combinations 6 5 4
3
no. Checked Hits Hits Hits
Hits
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1 1 2 3 4 8 13 in draw #
1363
2 1 2 5 6 15 16 in draw #
14
2 1 2 5 6 15 16 in draw #
1351
3 1 2 7 8 9 10 in draw #
3
3 1 2 7 8 9 10 in draw #
5
4 1 2 11 12 13 14 in draw #
1312
4 1 2 11 12 13 14 in draw #
1319
5 1 3 5 6 8 12 in draw #
1
5 1 3 5 6 8 12 in draw #
8
6 1 3 5 7 13 14 in draw #
110
6 1 3 5 7 13 14 in draw #
111
7 1 3 5 9 10 11 in draw #
6
7 1 3 5 9 10 11 in draw #
9
8 1 3 7 11 15 16 in draw #
91
8 1 3 7 11 15 16 in draw #
98
9 1 4 5 9 14 15 in draw #
4
9 1 4 5 9 14 15 in draw #
1315
10 1 4 6 7 9 12 in draw #
3
10 1 4 6 7 9 12 in draw #
8
11 1 4 6 8 11 14 in draw #
10
11 1 4 6 8 11 14 in draw #
13
12 1 4 6 10 13 16 in draw #
2
12 1 4 6 10 13 16 in draw #
24
13 1 8 9 13 15 16 in draw #
3
13 1 8 9 13 15 16 in draw #
4
14 1 10 12 14 15 16 in draw #
2
14 1 10 12 14 15 16 in draw #
8
15 2 3 5 10 13 15 in draw #
4
15 2 3 5 10 13 15 in draw #
18
16 2 3 6 9 14 16 in draw #
4
16 2 3 6 9 14 16 in draw #
11
17 2 3 7 9 12 15 in draw #
69
17 2 3 7 9 12 15 in draw #
71
18 2 3 8 11 14 15 in draw #
226
18 2 3 8 11 14 15 in draw #
229
19 2 4 5 6 7 11 in draw #
194
19 2 4 5 6 7 11 in draw #
197
20 2 4 7 13 14 16 in draw #
158
20 2 4 7 13 14 16 in draw #
160
21 2 4 8 12 15 16 in draw #
143
21 2 4 8 12 15 16 in draw #
145
22 2 4 9 10 11 16 in draw #
427
22 2 4 9 10 11 16 in draw #
429
23 2 5 6 8 9 13 in draw #
232
23 2 5 6 8 9 13 in draw #
242
24 2 5 6 10 12 14 in draw #
696
24 2 5 6 10 12 14 in draw #
697
25 3 4 5 6 15 16 in draw #
335
25 3 4 5 6 15 16 in draw #
336
26 3 4 7 10 12 14 in draw #
492
26 3 4 7 10 12 14 in draw #
496
27 3 4 8 9 11 13 in draw #
415
27 3 4 8 9 11 13 in draw #
426
28 3 5 8 9 12 14 in draw #
510
28 3 5 8 9 12 14 in draw #
513
29 3 6 7 8 10 16 in draw #
448
29 3 6 7 8 10 16 in draw #
452
30 3 6 11 12 13 16 in draw #
98
30 3 6 11 12 13 16 in draw #
99
31 4 5 7 8 10 15 in draw #
137
31 4 5 7 8 10 15 in draw #
138
32 4 5 11 12 13 15 in draw #
392
32 4 5 11 12 13 15 in draw #
394
33 5 7 9 12 13 16 in draw #
398
33 5 7 9 12 13 16 in draw #
400
34 5 8 10 11 14 16 in draw #
282
34 5 8 10 11 14 16 in draw #
283
35 6 7 8 13 14 15 in draw #
93
35 6 7 8 13 14 15 in draw #
98
36 6 9 10 11 12 15 in draw #
414
36 6 9 10 11 12 15 in draw #
421
37 7 8 10 11 12 13 in draw #
136
37 7 8 10 11 12 13 in draw #
137
38 7 9 10 11 13 14 in draw #
203
38 7 9 10 11 13 14 in draw #
216
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Total Hits: 0 0 0
9681
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