Thunderball Strategies.

[Mark Anthony]

I have never had the inclination to throw money away on Thunderball to date,
neither have I spent any quality time evaluating its potential, if any.

I would however be interested to read of any worthwhile study given to it by
other NG members.

Has anybody out there devised any worthwhile wheeling methods, tailor-made
for Thunderball?

Alternatively, are there any websites which could be recommended for
Thunderball in particular?

[Paracelsus]

I agree with your sentiments entirely Mark. I've never taken to the
Thunderball, for four reasons:-

1. It's a distraction from the main event.

2. The prize structure is too complicated.

3. Camelot have, from the beginning to this day, kept telling us it's
easier to win (which is true), but they've never told us that the cost ratio
is higher than for the National Lottery, ie the odds/prize ratio is higher.
(In other words, it's a con!)

4. We now have an extra set of numbers to collect (well, you never know
when they might come in handy). In itself this is not a problem for
obsessive number-crunchers like ourselves, but it does have the drawback of
us being forced to watch Dale Winton mincing about with real stars for 15
minutes every week.

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[Mark Anthony]

Besmirching that fine, masculine individual Mr Winton - well, really! I'm
sure millions of us have got him all wrong.....I said as much to Michael
Portillo the other day.

I wholeheartedly share your reservations incidentally.

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> Has anybody out there devised any worthwhile wheeling methods, tailor-made

> for Thunderball?
>
> Alternatively, are there any websites which could be recommended for
> Thunderball in particular?
>

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Sorry I took so long to reply you in this thread - I've been a wee bit busy of late.

I don't know how many T/ball combinations you are thinking of covering or whether or
not you are part of a works syndicate etc, but here is one idea...

My Son quickly knocked up a Microsoft 'Excel' random number selector for me. It can
create as many sets as you need. One mouse click and it takes about five seconds to
come up with 14 sets of randomly selected combinations. (see below)

I know it isn't a 'wheel' as such, but it may be sufficient to meet your needs...

(1) If you play 98 randomly selected combinations (£98) in 14 sets with seven
combinations in each set, you are guaranteed a minimum £25 return on your entry
stake - every draw. This is regardless of the 5/34 & t/ball draw result. In other
words, you are getting a 98 combination (£98) entry stake - for £73 (guaranteed).

You can reduce that £98 stake to £84 by eliminating four numbers from the 5/34 - see
example (2).

The returns quoted are the basic *minimum* returns. All winning T/ball dividends are
possible with the plan i.e. from 'm' 1+ t/ball (£5) up to 'm5' + t/ball which as you
know wins the top prize of £250,000.

Example (1) using all 34 numbers available...

You cover 14 sets of the 5/34 numbers with *seven* combinations in each set. Having
fourteen sets guarantees you *must* have the drawn t/ball number regardless of which
one of the 1-14 T/balls is drawn.
7 combinations in 14 sets ( 7 x 14) = total entry stake of £98.

The following uses *all* 34 numbers in 14 sets. One number will appear *twice* in
each set.. i.e. 7 combinations 7 x 5 = 35 numbers. There are of course, only 34
balls in the hopper...

1 11 12 23 32 1 14 18 21 31 1 17 19 20 21 1 12 24 28 30
2 15 17 19 28 2 9 16 20 30 2 10 25 26 30 2 21 22 23 25
3 20 24 26 27 3 5 12 25 28 3 24 27 28 32 3 5 19 31 32
4 5 29 30 33 4 11 13 23 27 4 9 15 29 31 4 14 17 26 34
6 8 22 25 31 6 10 15 19 22 7 12 13 33 34 6 8 15 20 29
9 7 13 14 18 7 8 17 24 26 8 5 6 23 23 7 9 11 13 33
10 16 19 21 34 8 29 32 33 34 11 14 16 18 22 10 16 18 24 27
(T/ball=1) (T/ball=2) (T/ball=3) T/ball=4)

1 18 19 22 31 1 8 13 31 34 1 9 17 25 29 1 18 19 23 24
2 3 5 16 23 2 3 4 22 32 2 14 15 18 30 2 9 21 21 27
3 21 28 33 34 5 9 11 11 23 3 21 22 28 34 3 11 12 26 34
4 10 11 17 26 6 10 14 15 16 4 7 8 27 31 4 5 13 16 30
6 9 15 27 29 7 19 27 30 33 5 15 19 20 23 6 7 10 22 33
7 13 14 24 30 12 21 24 26 28 6 12 13 32 33 8 20 25 31 32
8 12 20 25 32 17 18 20 25 29 10 11 16 24 26 14 15 17 28 29
(T/ball=5) (T/ball=6) (T/ball=7) (T/ball=8)

1 2 26 30 31 1 5 28 32 34 1 10 11 12 25 1 7 12 16 29
1 15 16 24 34 2 9 14 19 29 2 15 19 21 29 2 11 13 21 28
3 12 27 29 32 3 11 16 25 30 4 26 30 32 33 3 30 32 33 34
5 10 21 22 28 4 17 23 31 33 5 3 6 18 24 4 17 18 22 27
6 7 9 14 18 7 13 18 22 27 7 9 10 20 28 5 6 7 19 25
4 17 19 20 25 10 19 20 21 24 8 16 22 27 31 8 10 15 26 31
8 11 13 23 33 12 6 8 15 26 13 14 17 23 34 9 14 20 23 24
(T/ball=9) (T/ball=10) (T/ball=11) (T/ball=12)

1 29 30 31 32 1 13 21 24 30
2 9 11 15 18 2 25 26 28 33
3 19 23 24 28 3 10 11 16 20
4 8 16 17 21 4 15 19 27 34
6 15 22 27 33 5 7 12 17 29
5 12 13 26 34 6 8 9 26 31
7 10 14 20 25 14 18 22 23 32
(T/ball=13) (T/ball=14)

Some nos in above sets may need a bit tweaking if out of sync - but you get the drift.

Check above sets with any t/ball draw result (or make up your own result)..
you will see that the return guarantees as stated - must apply.
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Example (2) eliminating four numbers...

As with example (1) you cover 14 sets of the 5/34 numbers but this time with *six*
combinations in each set. Having fourteen sets guarantees that you *must* have the
drawn t/ball number regardless of which one is drawn. Six combinations in 14 sets (6 x
14) = total entry stake of £84 (now reduced by £14).

Using only 30 numbers nos from the 5/34 the guaranteed returns however, change thus...

If *none* of your four eliminated numbers appear in any draw, the same guarantee
applies ie, you get a minimum £25 return on your stake. If one of your four
eliminated numbers appear in any draw, your guaranteed minimum return is reduced to
£20. Two eliminated nos appear, your return is £15. Three eliminated nos appear -
your return is £10. If all four eliminated nos appear in any draw, you are still
guaranteed a minimum £5 return on your initial £84 stake. Again, all 5/34 winning
dividends are possible.

Hope this helps.
Nick Carlin.

[Thunderchild77]

Hi,

You could try http://www.thunder-ball.co.uk
or Steve Blundell has a shareware it's not bad.
at

http://www.llednulb.demon.co.uk/
Cheers
Prem

[Thunderchild77]

Hi,

You could try http://www.thunder-ball.co.uk
or Steve Blundell has a shareware it's not bad.
at

http://www.llednulb.demon.co.uk/
Cheers
Prem