What the world needs is ...
Mr. V
OK, I'll invent one: "Odd or Even."
A one roll bet, with the payout determined by the odds, skewed
slightly in the house's favor like place bets.
You can bet odd or even in roulette, why not in craps?
Odd: wins if the number rolled is odd, i.e. three, five, seven, nine
or eleven.
Even: you get the idea.
Binyamin Dissen
wrote:
:> ... a new craps bet on the table layout.
Problem is that odds are exactly even and Bar-12 would not work for the Odd
bet. Bar-3/11 is taking too much (though that has not stopped the casinos in
the past).
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Alan Shank
<post...@dissensoftware.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:43:58 -0800 (PST) "Mr. V" <allag...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>:> ... a new craps bet on the table layout.
>
>:>OK, I'll invent one: "Odd or Even."
>
>:>A one roll bet, with the payout determined by the odds, skewed
>:>slightly in the house's favor like place bets.
>
>:>You can bet odd or even in roulette, why not in craps?
>
>:>Odd: wins if the number rolled is odd, i.e. three, five, seven, nine
>:>or eleven.
>
>:>Even: you get the idea.
>
>Problem is that odds are exactly even and Bar-12 would not work for the Odd
>bet. Bar-3/11 is taking too much (though that has not stopped the casinos in
>the past).
If they did offer that bet, it could just be a 5% "vig", perhaps
collected only on a win.
Happy New Year!
Alan Shank
Binyamin Dissen
<goat...@notoriousshankbrothers.com> wrote:
:>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:34:18 +0200, Binyamin Dissen
:><post...@dissensoftware.com> wrote:
5% is too low. No room on the table for a Baccarat type thing.
Nick Naim
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SteveF
>
> ... a new craps bet on the table layout.
>
> OK, I'll invent one: "Odd or Even."
>
> A one roll bet, with the payout determined by the odds, skewed
> slightly in the house's favor like place bets.
>
> You can bet odd or even in roulette, why not in craps?
>
OK, here's my version, called "No Craps Odd or Even":
If Craps are thrown (2, 3, or 12) you get half your money back;
otherwise it's an even-money single-roll bet on odd or even.
House vig is 5.56%, however if they don't want to offer half your money
back on a Craps then the house take is 11.11%, which is the same as
"any craps", so it seems like the perfect new bet for the casinos.
The only problem I see is the expense of changing all the felts (I would
place this bet near the Field, as it is also a one-roll bet) and training
the dealers (the hardest part is to teach them the difference between
odd and even.)
-- Steve F.
John B
You can bet odd or even in roulette, why not in craps?
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Why mess with one of the oldest, one of the most traditional, and in my
opinion, one of the best games in the casino? It already offers the most
diversified betting options of any game around....if it ain't broke,
don't fix it! :)
JB
Mr. V
A new, simple bet like this could encourage new players to try the
game; you know the ones I am talking about, the lurkers who are
intimidated by the game's apparent complexity.
This bet plus the field bet are / would be very simple to understand
and play for a newbie.
And who knows, if the house edge is low enough, savvy gamblers might
jump in too, especially those who believe in following trends.
Hey, I like the game the way it is, too, but it's a dying game; not
enough new blood to keep the number of tables open that used to be
open (sure, a rotten economy hurts, too).
You better believe the casinos are looking for new bets, like I
propose: hello, fire bet.
The Midnight Skulker
> opinion, one of the best games in the casino?
If for no other reason than to keep up with inflation casinos have to
look for ways to make their games more profitable. Raising minimums
is one way, of course, but risks pricing more money out of the market
than is gained. IMHO the relatively recent proliferation of carnival
games (e.g. Casino War and poker derivatives) and the addition of side
bets to traditional games (Royal Match in blackjack and Over/Under 7
in craps) has been their response. Changing blackjack payoffs from
3:2 to 6:5 is "messing with the game"; I don't think adding an Odd/
Even bet to craps is.
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John B
Why mess with one of the oldest, one of the most traditional, and in my
opinion, one of the best games in the casino?
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If for no other reason than to keep up with inflation casinos have to
look for ways to make their games more profitable. Raising minimums is
one way, of course, but risks pricing more money out of the market than
is gained. IMHO the relatively recent proliferation of carnival games
(e.g. Casino War and poker derivatives) and the addition of side bets to
traditional games (Royal Match in blackjack and Over/Under 7 in craps)
has been their response. Changing blackjack payoffs from 3:2 to 6:5 is
"messing with the game"; I don't think adding an Odd/ Even bet to craps
is.
Midnight Skulker
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Point taken.......How 'bout them "Broncos"! :)
JB
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