WHAT IN THE WORLD IS A ZEP?????
Joe Arditi
As we promised I'll explain what a ZEP is. We invented the zep in our
restaurant in the 60's in Norristown, Pennsylvania. Even today you will
see zeps for sale in several pizzerias and restaurants in that area
exclusively.
A ZEP has all of the food groups...Grain, Dairy, Protein and vegetable.
On a Kaiser roll put on 2 slices of cooked salami, 2 slices of
provolone, sliced onion and sliced garden fresh vine ripened tomato
slices. Add olive oil, oregano and salt. That's it...Italian soul food!
p.s. for vegetarians just skip the cooked salami.
Well, Bon appetit'
Pepper Joe
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Joe Arditi wrote in message <37AE48AF...@home.com>...
Beverley
taste of their food and want to disguise it! You haven't lived until you've
eaten a Zep!
Don Joe - see signature wrote in message
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>On Mon, 09 Aug 1999 03:19:49 GMT, Joe Arditi <pepp...@home.com> wrote:
>
>>This is a fabulous way to use those vine ripened tomatoes.
>>As we promised I'll explain what a ZEP is. We invented the zep in our
>>restaurant in the 60's in Norristown, Pennsylvania. Even today you will
>>see zeps for sale in several pizzerias and restaurants in that area
>>exclusively.
>>A ZEP has all of the food groups...Grain, Dairy, Protein and vegetable.
>>
>>On a Kaiser roll put on 2 slices of cooked salami, 2 slices of
>>provolone, sliced onion and sliced garden fresh vine ripened tomato
>>slices. Add olive oil, oregano and salt. That's it...Italian soul food!
>>p.s. for vegetarians just skip the cooked salami.
>
>No crushed red pepper???
>
>
>--
>This is not a real email address, nor a real name, so
>don't reply via email.
Gary Cooper
...
> A ZEP has all of the food groups...Grain, Dairy, Protein and vegetable.
>
> On a Kaiser roll put on 2 slices of cooked salami, 2 slices of
> provolone, sliced onion and sliced garden fresh vine ripened tomato
> slices. Add olive oil, oregano and salt. That's it...Italian soul food!
> p.s. for vegetarians just skip the cooked salami.
So that's a ZEP. I've been eating them for years... only I called it a
salami sandwich.
Gary
A.Ferszt
Sounds like an 'old-style' Blimpie. Are those around any more?
Joe Bevilacqua
labeled pepperoni. The small cut ones taste just like pepperoni but the
larger sliced ones taste like salami to me. Using that plus some VeganRella
mozzarella sliced very thin and you have a healthy strict vegetarian version
of this sandwich.
Gary Cooper <big...@utdallas.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.3.96.990811...@apache.utdallas.edu...
madgard
"A.Ferszt" wrote:
>
> Gary Cooper wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Joe Arditi wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > > A ZEP has all of the food groups...Grain, Dairy, Protein and vegetable.
> > >
> > Gary
>
> Sounds like an 'old-style' Blimpie. Are those around any more?
here in Eastern Tennessee there are actually gas stations/deli's that
are literally advertising a name of "Blimpie". And the above mentioned
sandwich sounded like what i made in the early seventies called a
submarine.....with the oil and everything, in fact, the shop that
innovated it in Nashville set up shop in the university area and called
themselves Nautilus Submarine Sandwich shop, and they specialized in
fresh made wheat, and white loaves to make the sandwiches with.....I
worked for one that got the bright idea to set up shop on Legislation
Plaza, and boy, when i decided to extend the hours because i noticed
Legislation kept late hours sometimes I made a killing, (and because I
offered something no one had the guts to offer [the owner was very
giving with ideas, you could almost try anything] which was not only
provide the soda pop in cans, but to provide a good bottled beer, and
you had to buy a sandwich to get a beer, (to keep the street guys from
just coming in to get a beer). That went over great, especially since I
also kept the best rootbeer available in bottles at the time as well,
amazing how many men like a good icy cold beer or rootbeer with a
massive submarine sandwich in between debating and passing
legislation..... madgardener
"Cats humor us because they know that THEIR ancestor's ate OURS".......
David Wright
wrote:
>"Cats humor us because they know that THEIR ancestor's ate OURS".......
I love that, and I'm gonna steal it!
David
Allan&Teresa Widner
sandwich. Sometimes the re-inventions wind up in court. Here in Peoria
Ill-inois are Subway, Blimpie, and Quizno's - all chain offering a different
variation on the same theme. My favorites are Quizon's and Blimpie. In
addition, every supermarket, deli, gas station, and @#$** garage sale has a
version, usually without cool stuff like oil and vinegar and spices. Some
use high-quality Italian meats and sausages, others use balony and ham.
Now - I do like the things. A hot Quizno's classic italian drenched in
their own brand of Italian dressing is a delight that cannot be described.
But what annoys me is that every single place that comes up with a new take
on the same theme thinks they have invented it. Like this wonderful pizza
place in Chicago - one of the best pizzas I have ever eaten - but to here
them talk, they invented the whole thing. And each generation of youth
thinks they invented sex and drugs - and rock and roll for that matter.
Just some grumpy musings. A zep sounds scruptious.
Hawk
ps - madgard, the beer was brilliant. Although I doubt you could have
stocked the best beer for washing down any food remotely Italian - Peroni.
madgard wrote in message <37B21351...@bellsouth.net>...
Jack Schidt
oh, you mean a grinder.....
Beverley
zep!
Jack Schidt wrote in message <7p118d$6...@news1.snet.net>...
Allan&Teresa Widner
Hawk
Beverley wrote in message ...
Gary Cooper
Sandwich), and every sandwich since then is just a minor variation. I've
heard at least half a dozen places claim they invented the hamburger. That
sandwich seems to have been unknown in Hamburg itself, though, until the
incursion of American burger chains like McDonald's in recent years, so
that only now is it at last possible to see Hamburgers eating hamburgers.
Gary
Swamp Thing
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There are a number of different versions as to how the hoagie got its name, but no matter what version you believe, all agree on one
thing...it started in Philadelphia.The most widely accepted story centers on an area of Philadelphia known as Hog Island, which was
home to a shipyard during World War I. The Italian immigrants working there would bring giant sandwiches made with cold cuts,
spices, oil, lettuce, tomatoes, onions and peppers for their lunches. These workers were nicknamed "Hoggies". Over the years, the
name was attached to the sandwich as well, but under a different spelling.
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The zep is usally considered a less "ornate" version of the same sandwich, often on a kaiser roll instead of the long roll
associated with hoagies. BTW, a truly authentic hoagie or Philly cheese-steak will only be made with Amoroso rolls.
A grinder in the Philly area is simply a zep, or the larger hoagie, tossed into the pizza oven for a few minutes.
--
Swamp Thing, Philly Phan
-Please allow for natural variations-
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Allan&Teresa Widner wrote in message <7p1e0t$3gl$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
Michael Edelman
> > Every couple of years, someone re-invents the submarine/hero/gondola
> > sandwich. Sometimes the re-inventions wind up in court. Here in Peoria
> > Ill-inois are Subway, Blimpie, and Quizno's - all chain offering a different
Gack. Someone send these poor people some food.
Blimpie's is a poor excuse for a
sub/grinder/hoagie/whatever. Starch, fat, and no
flavor other than what can be obtained form
condiments added.
Subway is even worse, if that's possible. Looks
like a snadwhcih, tastes like a loaf of Wonder
Bread with off texture. My favoprite downtown
coffeehouse lost its lease to a Blimpie's
franchise, may they rot in hades.
-- mike
Allan&Teresa Widner
inferiority complex. Blimpie isn't so bad, though a far cry from Quizno's.
And my father still goes on about a deli in the Lockport/Joliet area that
used Scalla's meats, and made the best sandwiches on the face of the planet.
Mind you, it has been 20 years since he actually got up north to eat there.
Even good sandwich meats are harder to find around here, compared to Chicago
or other large cities. And just try finding fresh lox. Or a simple,
decent, Rueben. I actually ate on once that had *cheddar* and bacon on it.
Can you imagine? I thought traditional ruebens made a point of at least
seeming to be kosher...
Hawk
Michael Edelman wrote in message <37B46365...@mich.com>...
Zhanataya
<atwi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Well - I am in Peoria, you know. The city with the big ideas and the
>inferiority complex. Blimpie isn't so bad, though a far cry from Quizno's.
>And my father still goes on about a deli in the Lockport/Joliet area that
>used Scalla's meats, and made the best sandwiches on the face of the planet.
>Mind you, it has been 20 years since he actually got up north to eat there.
>Even good sandwich meats are harder to find around here, compared to Chicago
>or other large cities. And just try finding fresh lox. Or a simple,
>decent, Rueben. I actually ate on once that had *cheddar* and bacon on it.
>Can you imagine? I thought traditional ruebens made a point of at least
>seeming to be kosher...
>
>Hawk
>
>
Hawk, you are a darling innocent. when was corned beef and
cheese *ever* considered kosher. But that's a whole 'nother
thread. All you yankees have names and recipies to offer
but none can compare to the po-boy. And I weren't born in
Louisiana. But i know good eating.
Zhan
Allan&Teresa Widner
impression. Am I wrong? The Rueben is rye bread, corned beef, kraut, and
(pretty much) thousand island dressing. I am certain the first rueben I
ever had, Upstate, had no cheese. Although it was many years ago, I was a
child, and my memeory could be faulty.
Hawk
Zhanataya wrote in message <37b472b...@news.mindspring.com>...
WB or CM Hilbrich
: But the rueben isn't supposed to have cheese, is it? That was my
: impression. Am I wrong? The Rueben is rye bread, corned beef, kraut, and
: (pretty much) thousand island dressing.
*** The Ruebens I have eaten usually have swiss cheese that helps glue
them together.
Bill
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aggression, subjugation or commerce, will ultimately feel the rath of
the exploited God threefold ."
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Zhanataya
<atwi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>But the rueben isn't supposed to have cheese, is it? That was my
>impression. Am I wrong? The Rueben is rye bread, corned beef, kraut, and
>(pretty much) thousand island dressing. I am certain the first rueben I
>ever had, Upstate, had no cheese. Although it was many years ago, I was a
>child, and my memeory could be faulty.
>
>Hawk
>
>Zhanataya wrote in message <37b472b...@news.mindspring.com>...
>
>>>
>>Hawk, you are a darling innocent. when was corned beef and
>>cheese *ever* considered kosher. But that's a whole 'nother
>>thread. All you yankees have names and recipies to offer
>>but none can compare to the po-boy. And I weren't born in
>>Louisiana. But i know good eating.
>>
>>Zhan
>
My understanding of a Reuben is corned beef, swiss, kraut,
(preferably sliver floss) on rye and grilled. I ate it this
way for twenty years before I ever heard of thousand island
dressing. Actually I think I like it with the 1000 better,
if there isn't to much.
Have you ever eaten a po - boy ?
Zhan but meat and cheese ain't never gonna be kosher.
Robert Garrard
Zhanataya <zhan...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Allan&Teresa Widner
would not have cheese. I think even "reformed", secularized Jews would not
want to cross that line.
I may be mistaken about the rueben being kosher, however. I just recall
seeing it featured in a deli that I thought was catering to the Jewish
market. As a kosher or kosher-style selection. I am probably confused.
Hawk
Robert Garrard wrote in message ...
>I prefer brown mustard with corned beef, Swiss, and kraut on rye.
>>
Zhanataya
<garr...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I prefer brown mustard with corned beef, Swiss, and kraut on rye.
Oh Yum. I'd forgotten about brown mustard. Now I'm getting
hungry.
Zhan
Zhanataya
<atwi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Right - and I *thought* the traditional rueben was kosher, which means it
>would not have cheese. I think even "reformed", secularized Jews would not
>want to cross that line.
>I may be mistaken about the rueben being kosher, however. I just recall
>seeing it featured in a deli that I thought was catering to the Jewish
>market. As a kosher or kosher-style selection. I am probably confused.
>
>Hawk
You're probably right about the original reuben. Pastrami
and provolone is another one you'll find on the same menu.
But have ya ever eaten a po - boy. Now folks, *that's* good
eating.
Zhan
madgard
is juuuuuust melting and the bread is golden crispy brown....they are
the reason I gained my last 10 pounds when i was pregnant with
Damon....playing Rook, drinking Coke, and eating Reubens that Sonny
fried in a skillet in butter......lordy, lordy!! I'm hungry too!!
madgardener
Allan&Teresa Widner
Gary Cooper
> Okay, okay - what is a po-boy?!
>
> Hawk
>
Po-boy (or Poor boy) = Hero, Hoagie, Submarine, Sub, Grinder, Zep, Blimp,
Torta, etc., etc.
In other words, a big sandwich on a big roll.
I'm sure some people could make distinctions between each of these, but
the different names seem to vary regionally a lot more than they do by the
contents of the sandwich.
Gary
Young
I thought a po-boy was an oyster 'sub' ... nancy
jun...@home.com
Blimp, Torta, etc., etc."
good eexplanation. do some people not possess a search engine?
all of these phrases are easily looked up on the web, besides
why cross post to a vegetarian news group about how meat
sandwiches make you mouth water........
Allan&Teresa Widner
future posts to this thread.
Hawk
jun...@home.com wrote in message <37B75381...@home.com>...
Gary Cooper
> > > Okay, okay - what is a po-boy?!
> > >
> > > Hawk
> > >
> > Po-boy (or Poor boy) = Hero, Hoagie, Submarine, Sub, Grinder, Zep, Blimp,
> > Torta, etc., etc.
> >
> > In other words, a big sandwich on a big roll.
> >
> > I'm sure some people could make distinctions between each of these, but
> > the different names seem to vary regionally a lot more than they do by the
> > contents of the sandwich.
> >
> > Gary
>
> I thought a po-boy was an oyster 'sub' ... nancy
>
It certainly can be an oyster sub, but to consider only New Orleans
restaurants (that's where the name "Po boy" seems to be most common), I've
also seen catfish po-boys, shrimp po-boys, crawfish po-boys, and ham and
cheese po-boys... and I wasn't even looking for them.
Gary
Gary Cooper
> " Po-boy (or Poor boy) = Hero, Hoagie, Submarine, Sub, Grinder, Zep,
> Blimp, Torta, etc., etc."
>
> good eexplanation. do some people not possess a search engine?
> all of these phrases are easily looked up on the web, besides
> why cross post to a vegetarian news group about how meat
> sandwiches make you mouth water........
>
There are vegetarian versions of nearly all these sandwiches.
Barry Grau
: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:45:05 -0500, "Allan&Teresa Widner"
: <atwi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
: >Right - and I *thought* the traditional rueben was kosher, which means it
: >would not have cheese. I think even "reformed", secularized Jews would not
: >want to cross that line.
They draw the line at moo shu pork and lobster cantonese and shrimp in
lobster sauce. These are especially popular on Yom Kippur when the kosher
and kosher-style delis are closed.
Actually, many Reform and secularized Jews will eat almost anything out
but not bring them into their homes. They may not make reubens at home,
but many will eat them out. Many will make them at home, too. The traditional
corned beef is kosher. The traditional reuben is not.
Allan&Teresa Widner
lobster - oh, my.
Hawk
Barry Grau wrote in message <7pfh7v$vp0$9...@piglet.cc.uic.edu>...