First time in NYC!
Yuca
I will be in NYC's midtown area on the weekend of Dec. 13. Can someone
please recommend a few outstanding, yet moderately priced (up to
$35.00/plate) restaurants?
I also want the best place to get a pizza, and maybe also a good "mom 'n
pop" restaurant in Little Italy and Chinatown. Please post to this group,
or send e-mail. Thank you.
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Robert Buxbaum
In article <01bbe64d$a528b7c0$4a7ed6ce@708661617>, "Yuca"
<pa...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
$35/plate, if that's what you really mean would work out to about twice
that for a three course meal. This puts you in most of the top expensive
restaurants of NYC. I suspect you may mean $35/person for dinner.
You may find a line at Joe's Shanghai, at 9 Pell street in Chinatown, but
there's a reason so many people are willing to wait for a seat while other
restaurants in the area are empty. Part of the reason for the line may be
that there have been few Shanghai restaurants in NYC, until now, but the
food is good. I can also recommend Dim Sum lunch at New Oriental Pearl,
105 Mott Street. For the most part, avoid the deep fat fried dishes, they
never seem to bring them out hot and crisp. The rest is good. They have
some of the best steamed dumplings around and a great variety to boot.
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SteveManes
Yuca (pa...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: I will be in NYC's midtown area on the weekend of Dec. 13. Can someone
: please recommend a few outstanding, yet moderately priced (up to
: $35.00/plate) restaurants?
Well, there's my place but we're in Brooklyn Heights. Best thing to
do is pick up a NY Press, a free consumer-oriented newspaper available
at many stores, hotels and sidewalk kiosks. Next to Zagat, I think
they have the best food reviews in the city.
: I also want the best place to get a pizza
That's too broad a question for a N'Yawker. John's Pizza on Bleecker
Street (West Village) and Lombardi's in Little Italy are considered two
of the best but I personally like a thicker crust, more cheese and
I ain't sold on the merits of brick-oven pizza anyway. Hence my
recommendation is that you experiment. It's pretty hard to find
lousy pizza in Manhattan... just stay away from the chain places in
midtown because they're as bad as chain pizza anywhere, just more
expensive.
: and maybe also a good "mom 'n pop" restaurant in Little Italy and
: Chinatown.
NY Secret: the best Italian isn't in Little Italy and the best
Chinese isn't in Chinatown. The best Chinatown has to offer is
probably Canton on Division Street off Bowery, and it's quite good.
For Little Italy, I can't recommend anything because everything
I've tried there is at best mediocre. On average, it sucks. My
recommendation is that you take in the colors of Little Italy, then
walk over to Il Bagatto on E.2nd Street between Ave A & B for
pasta. Then go back to Little Italy for dessert and coffee.
Or if you're in a spending mood ($70), Il Mulino on W.3rd off
Thompson Street is one of the best Italian restaurants in the city.
OB Chinatown chinese: tonight my partners and I were invited to dinner
at the Chinatown Holiday Inn tonight by the hotel's owner, a young
Chinese-American named Sherman (I never got his last name). I've
walked by this modest mini-hotel for years wanting to check it out.
Sherman ordered for us and I have to say that although some of the
dishes were predictably bland, there were some really excellent
ones, especially the scallops in a ground pepper sauce, a
battered shrimp with candied pecans and some kind of Chinese green
in garlic which Neil identified as snow pea greens. Frankly, if I
were the adventurous type and was coming to NYC wanting to
experience NYC after dark, I'd forego midtown and its hotels
entirely and stay either here or at the new and pricier Soho Grand
on West Broadway.
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Joe Zimmerman
Yuca wrote:
>
> I will be in NYC's midtown area on the weekend of Dec. 13. Can someone
> please recommend a few outstanding, yet moderately priced (up to
> $35.00/plate) restaurants?
> pop" restaurant in Little Italy and Chinatown. Please post to this group,
> or send e-mail. Thank you.
> --
> pa...@ix.netcom.com
Dock' Oyster Bar at 40th St and 3rd Avenue is great for fresh seafood.
Also check out John's Pizzaria in the village on Bleeker St (there's
also an uptown location in the 60's).
John David Auwen
>: I will be in NYC's midtown area on the weekend of Dec. 13. Can someone
>: please recommend a few outstanding, yet moderately priced (up to
>: $35.00/plate) restaurants?
There are good restaurants all over the place. But be sure to bring
your coat and tie. In NYC, coat and tie are required at many
restaurants.
Dave
Audrey Marsh
John David Auwen (au...@convex.com) wrote:
: >: I will be in NYC's midtown area on the weekend of Dec. 13. Can someone
: >: please recommend a few outstanding, yet moderately priced (up to
: >: $35.00/plate) restaurants?
check out Virgil's BBQ on 44th Street btw Broadway & 6th.
No coat & tie needed, roll up and sleeves and dig in.
obviously for carnivores, the briskit and the lamb
were *outstanding*, as were the ribs and wings...
and don't skimp on your sides - the mashed potatoes and
corn bread are wonderful.
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JRothen318
First time: First of all - Baloney about needing a coat and tie - at the
Rainbow Room and one or two other places and that's it. And Virgil's
barbq? Come on - that's a joint for a fast bad bite. Here are some
moderate priced first rate places: Luma, Follonico, Novita, Patria,
Montrachet, Duane Park Cafe, Rosemarie's, Periyali, Trois Canards,
Gascogne. These are restaurants with creative,knowledgeable chefs - main
dishes are about $18-$23.
Stephen Ciullo
Yuca (pa...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: I will be in NYC's midtown area on the weekend of Dec. 13. Can someone
: please recommend a few outstanding, yet moderately priced (up to
: $35.00/plate) restaurants?
: pop" restaurant in Little Italy and Chinatown. Please post to this group,
I would have an "appetizer" (clams/shrimp/etc.) at Umberto's (corner
of Hester and Mulberry). Then walk down Mulberry (towards Grand)
to Benito's II ('bout a block and a half) on your left. Then have
dessert/cappucino/Sambuca at Ferrara's or Cafe Roma (no Sambuca).
Then hire someone with a "wheel barrow" to take you home! :-)
Stephen
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SteveManes
: your coat and tie. In NYC, coat and tie are required at many
: restaurants.
Only in a few of the ultra-expensive places, like Lespinasse. The
vast majority of NYC restaurants are dress-casual.
maggie simmons
SteveManes wrote:
> : I will be in NYC's midtown area on the weekend of Dec. 13. Can someone
> : please recommend a few outstanding, yet moderately priced (up to
> : $35.00/plate) restaurants?
You gotta try the Carnegie Deli while in the Big Apple. Those
Reubens are the best.
Also, if you are into soup, you have to try that famous Soup
Nazi's place. If you try it, keep us posted on whether or not you get
thrown out of line. More on Seinfeld: That diner that they eat at on the
show is called Tom's Restaurant. It's on 112th and Broadway.
If you like steak, my hubby took me to a place called Rusty
Staub's Steakhouse in the Trump plaza (I think there). For NY prices, it was very
reasonable.
Maggie
Clair659
Check out the Oyster Bar in Grand Central Station. Its not open on the
weekend though
klabrie
In article <58vamp$j...@news0-alterdial.uu.net>, maggie simmons <msim...@aol.com> says:
>
>SteveManes wrote:
>> : I will be in NYC's midtown area on the weekend of Dec. 13. Can someone
>> : please recommend a few outstanding, yet moderately priced (up to
>> : $35.00/plate) restaurants?
>
should be able to get out of them for about the price you've given. If you
go for lunch, Gotham has a fixed price lunch special for $19.96, and this
is a great deal. Have a wonderful time.
Stan Horwitz
JRothen318 (jroth...@aol.com) wrote:
: First time: First of all - Baloney about needing a coat and tie - at the
I agree! Any restaurant which requires me to wear a coat and tie would not
get my business. If I am to enjoy a nice restaurant, and it costs me a lot
of money to boot, I certainly want to be dressed reasonably comfortably,
which means that the last thing I would wear is a suite, tie, and a nice
pair of shoes which I find terribly uncomfortable. I am a jeans, t-shirt,
and sneakers kind of person.
In fact, I once dined at the Russian Tea Room, which is probably one of
the most fancy (and highly overrated) restaurants in NYC, with some
friends two summers ago. This was early on a Saturday night prior to
seeing Phantom of the Opera on Broadway. I wore a pair of short pants, a
pull over short sleeve shirt, and sneakers with white athletic socks which
is what I wore off the airplane that I happened to arrive on that day
after getting home to Philadelphia from a trip to the West coast and than
driving straight up to NYC to meet friends there for this night on the
town. I was not about to dress up in a suite and a tie after flying for 5
hours and then driving for almost another two hours in 90 degree weather!
All of use were either in short pants or jeans and we had no trouble
sitting among the other guests who were dressed in very fancy attire. We
called the restaurant prior to our reservation and told the person on the
phone that we were all casually dressed and that we were not willing to
dress in fancy clothing due to the very hot weather (over 90 degrees that
day) and the fact that some of us simply didn't have fancy clothing with
us. The person on the phone said there was no problem dining there in our
casual attire. The person would have been doing business poorly had he
turned us away too because we spent well over $500 for the meal we ate
there that night and I personally felt the food was very mediocre anyway.
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Some friends and I were in NYC just yesterday for the day. The primary
purpose of this trip was to see the Rockette's Christmas show at Radio
City Music Hall. The show was fantastic!
After the show, my friends and I went to eat dinner at a Carriabbean (SP?)
restaurant. The name of the restaurant is "Island and Spice" and its on
44th Street near 9th Avenue. The food there was superb! This was the
first time I ever ate that kind of food before. I had some kind of chicken
fricacy (sp?) that had a wonderful mild sweet kind of taste and it was
served with some kind of rolled corn meal (like polenta). The entree came
with either soup or a salad. I had their red bean soup which was some of
the best soup I have ever eaten! As an appetiser, i ordered some beef
patties which were very tasty. They had a taste that was mild at the
outset, but had a zingy tang after the first few bites!
One friend ordered the jerk chicken which she said was great. Another
person ordered some kind of lemon/lime chicken which he enjoyed much and
my other friend ordered the curry chicken which he enjoyed very much.
Someone also ordered plantains as an appetiser. I didn't eat any, but
everyone else at the table said they liked the plantains.
The service at the Island Spice was great. The price, which included our
optional appetisers, entrees, and desserts (which were also great) came to
about $20 per person. The restaurant appeared to have a good wine
selection although none of us ordered any wine or cocktails. The
restaurant is very small, maybe about 20 tables are there, a small bar
area and a small entry way. We did not have reservations, but we were
seated quickly. The restaurant was mostly empty when we arrived at around
6:00, but by the time we left 90 minutes later, it was mostly full.
The only thing I didn't like about the restaurant is that a 17% gratuity
is automatically added to the bill for parties of four or more. I prefer
to decide how much money I will leave for a tip, but since the waitress
provided superb service and she was incredibly pretty, I would have left a
20% tip had the 17% tip not been added to the bill for us.
SYoungKim
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haven't had the opportunity to dine in a wide selection of NYC restaurants
to develop a list of favorites but...whenever I'm there, I make a point of
eating a warm bagel from H&H (Sunday mornings at 8am) and two hotdogs at
Gray's Papaya. Definitely not to be missed.
As far as best NYC meal ever, it'll have to be Bouley...I don't think they
are open any more though.
HIDDA
Stan Horwitz wrote:
<Snipped>
> I agree! Any restaurant which requires me to wear a coat and tie would not
> get my business. If I am to enjoy a nice restaurant, and it costs me a lot
> of money to boot, I certainly want to be dressed reasonably comfortably,
> which means that the last thing I would wear is a suite, tie, and a nice
> pair of shoes which I find terribly uncomfortable. I am a jeans, t-shirt,
> and sneakers kind of person.
>
> In fact, I once dined at the Russian Tea Room, which is probably one of
> the most fancy (and highly overrated) restaurants in NYC, with some
> friends two summers ago. This was early on a Saturday night prior to
> seeing Phantom of the Opera on Broadway. I wore a pair of short pants,
<Snipped>
> casual attire. The person would have been doing business poorly had he
> turned us away too because we spent well over $500 for the meal we ate
> there that night and I personally felt the food was very mediocre anyway.
>
I've been to the Russian Tea Room several times on trips to NYC and have
never worn a coat and tie either. However, I do believe you missed the
point of going to the Russan Tea Room. You go there for the vodka!
They knew how to serve it properly.
By the way, are they planning to reopen? Or is it gone for good?
Haven't been there for about 5 years.
Robert Buxbaum
In article <32BBBD...@mauigateway.com>, HIDDA
<denn...@mauigateway.com> wrote:
>I've been to the Russian Tea Room several times on trips to NYC and have
>never worn a coat and tie either. However, I do believe you missed the
>point of going to the Russan Tea Room. You go there for the vodka!
>They knew how to serve it properly.
>
>By the way, are they planning to reopen? Or is it gone for good?
>Haven't been there for about 5 years.
For better or worse, they plan to reopen under new ownership. I've heard
there are some hitches lately, but the new excecutive chef is to be David
Bouley, who is also getting a new restaurant of his own downtown, in a new
building that will also include a new cooking school - his school. The
last public news was tha tBouley was on his way to Russia to research the
food. Personally, I'd be much more interested in his own restaurant. He
clearly had the best downtown restaurant in New York and was certainly a
contender for one of the best places in the city when it was open.
JRothen318
Stan Horowitz: You were unlucky in that the Russian Tea Room let you in
wearing shorts. For the kind of money you spent you could have gone to a
good restaurant and had a great meal. The Russian Tea Room had a
reputation for very mediocre food served to a clientele that thought they
were classy.
Greg Minsky
The Chinese restaurant on Broadway is the Imperial, good food, way over
priced, and small portions.
T-wa Inn is great, try the stuffed quall.(sp) For Dim Sum try the
Empress on Alameda, just north of Federal. The chinese food at China
Jade, in the Far East Center on Broadway is good for Denver.
For barbeque try Caldonia's on Parker Rd. just west of Havana.
For great NY Pizza, there are only two choices in Denver, Anthony's
which now has 3 locations, and the second is a month old, it is run by
guy named Cosmo, from Queens, it is on Leetsdale, right down the street
from Cub Foods in a strip mall.
That's it for now.
Greg
Missy wrote:
>
> khoff...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >Any Denverites reading this board??
>
> your food tastes seem very different from mine but you might want to
> try the excellent vietnamese places along south federal blvd.. notably
> T-Wa and New Saigon. the best chinese place is on Broadway and for the
> life of me i can't recall the name. its one word and top end chinese..
> i doubt they have lo mein anything.
> Missy
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In article <32c86132...@news.mindspring.com>,
Missy <stomping@savoy> wrote:
!khoff...@aol.com wrote:
!
!>Any Denverites reading this board??
!
!T-Wa and New Saigon. the best chinese place is on Broadway and for the
!life of me i can't recall the name. its one word and top end chinese..
!i doubt they have lo mein anything.
it is the imperial and serves mediocre standard chinese-american
cuisine. in denver this qualifies as better than the run of the
mill. the reason they don't serve lo-mein is because of a ver limited
menu.
the best places in denver at the moment for chinese food are
the empress, china palace, and pavilion. usually populated by large
groups of chinese in family parties.
there is a quite decent indonesian restaurant recently opened, bali
island on 26th street. most food is indonesian hot.
the best thai to my taste is still chao praya thai.
quite good korean - seoul house on 5th avenue. best be bim bop i have
had.
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khoff...@aol.com
Any Denverites reading this board?? I have a general question and a few
specific ones. First, is there any newsgroup more specifically devoted to
Denver or Colorado restaurants? (When I lived in Boston I read ne.food,
which had a constant interchange of opinions on Boston-area restaurants,
but have not found any equivalent here.) In other words, would there be a
more appropriate place to post these questions?
Specifically - any opinions on any of the following would be appreciated:
The Ship Tavern - has it gone downhill or is it as good as it used to be?
Firegrill Steakhouse - how does it compare to, for instance, Stuart
Anderson's?
Sweet Potato French Fries - does any place in Denver serve them??
Barbecue - I've tried Sam Taylor's, Luthers, Tony Romas's and Bennetts -
anyplace else worth a visit? (Preferably Central to Southeast Denver)
Anyplace with barbecue and also great french-fries?
Chinese - what are your recommendations? I would be particularly happy to
find someplace where the lo mein noodles are thin and chewy instead of
thick and soft (picky, picky!) How about Thai??
Any other general reccommendations? We usually eat out with our kids,
which means moderate prices, no waiting lines -- in other words, nice
family places rather than gourmet, trendy hot spots - but more interesting
food than franchise "family" places like Black Eyed Pea or Perkins.
Thanks for any advice you want to offer! -- Jackie Hoffman .
Missy
khoff...@aol.com wrote:
>Any Denverites reading this board??
your food tastes seem very different from mine but you might want to
try the excellent vietnamese places along south federal blvd.. notably
T-Wa and New Saigon. the best chinese place is on Broadway and for the
life of me i can't recall the name. its one word and top end chinese..
i doubt they have lo mein anything.
Arthur Wouk
In article <32ca39d0...@news.mindspring.com>,
Missy <stomping@savoy> wrote:
>aw...@ra.nilenet.com (Arthur Wouk) wrote:
>
>>the best places in denver at the moment for chinese food are
>>the empress, china palace, and pavilion. usually populated by large
>>groups of chinese in family parties.
>
>chinese food. most americans do not know good american food. When i am
they tend to do so. we rarely get peasants here from china, taiwan,
or hongkong. i have eaten chinese food in sanfrancisco, vancouver,
edmonton, new york (including the chinese governement sponsored
restaurants,...) and believe that the three i mentioned would be able
to make a go of it there. the imperial wouldn't because of the limited
and bastardized version of the cuisine they profer. all of the other
cities i mentioned have large recently immigrated populations who know
what they are eating.
note, i didn't say these three were outstanding, just that they were
far more interesting than anything else here, and would remain so in a
less provincial location.
Arthur Wouk
they may fly, but they will also crash. real, imaginative chinese
cuisine will survive.
In article <32cb8120...@news.mindspring.com>,
Missy <stomping@savoy> wrote:
!aw...@ra.nilenet.com (Arthur Wouk) wrote:
!
!
!>. the imperial wouldn't because of the limited
!>and bastardized version of the cuisine they profer.
!
!so do you think fusion food won't fly either?
!(pardon my smirk)
!
!Missy
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