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Thomas Olenio

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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Hello
I am looking for an old recipe for summer sausage that
does not require freezing or refrigeration after it is
cured and smoked.

If you are familar with Mennonite/Amish summer sausage
which is semi-dry and really tasty, you know what I am
talking about.

I would appreciate it if you could help me out, and
write from the complete idiots point of view. This
will be my first attempt to make true summer sausage.

All the recipes I find have been modernized and require
aluminum foil, or freezing to preserve the finished
product. I want to use unbleached muslin casings, and
store it in a cool dry room 38-42F, not a refrigerator.

Thank you in advance.

Tom

Jerry

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Oct 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/24/99
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Hello Tom,
I received your email this morning, and had saved the newsgroup post
for answering after doing some research.
I personally never have had Amish or Mennonite type of summer sausage.
But believe that they are decendents from German ancestry. I have a
german summer sausage recipe, and made it twice, the first time came out
great, The second came up moldy and soured on me due to humidity being
too high.
Try this one, and you'll get an edible sausage... after that, just
experiment with the spices to get the flavor you want, or maybe find an
Amish cookbook (I cannot find mine right now...) that may have a basic
recipe.

Here goes:

For 5 pounds of sausage:
3 pounds medium ground beef
2 pounds fine ground pork butt
4 Tbsp salt
1.5 Tbsp black pepper
3 tsp sage
1 Tbsp sugar
8 cloves garlic
1 cup Rhine wine
Combine all ingredients and mix well. Refrigerate for 48 hours then
stuff into muslin bags. Hang in a cool place for 2 to 3 days and allow
to set. Then place in a smoker preheated for 90 degrees and apply smoke
at this temperature for either 24 hours or until you get them looking a
nice rich brown color. After smoking return to a cool (38 to 40 degrees)
dry place that has no constantly moving air for 8 to 12 weeks to allow
to dry. When drying is complete, the sausages should have reduced in
size about 35 to 45 %.


I have another recipe that is called summer sausage, but it smokes/cooks
the sausage, and I do not believe that it could be kept for storage
outside of a fridge or a chilled room. LEt me know if you're interested
in that recipe too and good luck
Jerry


Thomas Olenio wrote:

> Hello
> I am looking for an old recipe for summer sausage that
> does not require freezing or refrigeration after it is
> cured and smoked.

> Thank you in advance.
>
> Tom

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Ross Reid

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Oct 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/24/99
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I've never tried to make my own because I live so close to "Mennonite
Country" that I can pick up the best summer sausage (that would be the
one from Noah S. Martin in Wallenstein).
However, here's the recipe from Edna Staebler's cookbook "Food That
Really Schmecks", subtitled Mennonite Country Cooking.
As with many OO Mennonite recipes, it is pretty basic, relying more on
mothers teaching daughters rather than long written directions.

66 lb. of beef, ground very fine
33 lb. of sidemeat
4 lb. salt
1/2 lb. black pepper
1/2 lb. saltpetre
3 lb. sugar

Mix well; stuff solidly into long, firm cotton bags the size of a
lady's stocking. Hang where they won't freeze for a few days, then
smoke with maple smoke.

Cheers,
Ross

Thomas Olenio <tol...@granite.sentex.net> wrote:

>Hello
>I am looking for an old recipe for summer sausage that
>does not require freezing or refrigeration after it is
>cured and smoked.
>

>If you are familar with Mennonite/Amish summer sausage
>which is semi-dry and really tasty, you know what I am
>talking about.
>
>I would appreciate it if you could help me out, and
>write from the complete idiots point of view. This
>will be my first attempt to make true summer sausage.
>
>All the recipes I find have been modernized and require
>aluminum foil, or freezing to preserve the finished
>product. I want to use unbleached muslin casings, and
>store it in a cool dry room 38-42F, not a refrigerator.
>

>Thank you in advance.
>
>Tom
>


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Sammy's huwummun

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Oct 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/25/99
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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:09:17 GMT, mrr...@golden.net (Ross Reid) wrote:

>I've never tried to make my own because I live so close to "Mennonite
>Country" that I can pick up the best summer sausage (that would be the
>one from Noah S. Martin in Wallenstein).

Wallenstein, what-state? Do you have their address? phone #? do
they have a web site?
TIA, Judy
to e-mail me, jco...@mindspring.com

Jessica Mikkelson

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Oct 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/25/99
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In article <381444ae...@news.mindspring.com>, jco...@mindspring.com
wrote:

> Wallenstein, what-state? Do you have their address? phone #? do
> they have a web site?
> TIA, Judy
> to e-mail me, jco...@mindspring.com

They're Mennonites! They don't go in for all this technology stuff! Thanks
for the laugh (however unintentional it was!)

Cheers
Jessica

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Sammy's huwummun

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Oct 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/26/99
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On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:08:26 -0500,
jess...@uswest.notsee_sig_for_addr (Jessica Mikkelson) wrote:

>In article <381444ae...@news.mindspring.com>, jco...@mindspring.com
>wrote:
>
>> Wallenstein, what-state? Do you have their address? phone #? do
>> they have a web site?
>> TIA, Judy
>> to e-mail me, jco...@mindspring.com
>
>They're Mennonites! They don't go in for all this technology stuff! Thanks
>for the laugh (however unintentional it was!)
>

yes, I know, but Lehman's is owned by Amish in Ohio & they have a
computerized ordering system & their complete catalog, including
ordering, is on the web! So, it really wasn't such an off-the-wall
question! Judy

Tom Olenio

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Oct 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/26/99
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The Mennonites I spoke of live in the Waterloo Region, of Ontario
Canada, particularly in the towns of Elmira and St Jacobs. If you
look at a map of Ontario it is the area just north of Kitchener, which
is about 2 hours west of Toronto. I usually get my summer sausage at
the stockyards on Tuesday or Saturday.

There is a storefront in Elmira that sells summer sausage, but the
name slips my mind. And the current sausage in the fridge is a
different brand.

I will let you know.

Tom

Zxcvbob

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Oct 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/27/99
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>For 5 pounds of sausage:
>3 pounds medium ground beef
>2 pounds fine ground pork butt
>4 Tbsp salt
>1.5 Tbsp black pepper
>3 tsp sage
>1 Tbsp sugar
>8 cloves garlic
>1 cup Rhine wine

<instructions snipped>

This recipe is dangerous because it does not contain saltpeter (or prague
powder) and it does not look like it is soured with lactobacilli. So even
though it is cured before you smoke it, there is a real risk of botulism
developing in the smoker. Or, it might just spoil like yours did.

It might work if you substitute Tender Quik instead of salt, and innoculate it
by using cultured buttermilk instead of wine. It would certainly be safer.

best regards,
bob


PilgrimLC

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Nov 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/4/99
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>They're Mennonites! They don't go in for all this technology stuff! Thanks
>for the laugh (however unintentional it was!)

Not that I want to rob you of your good laugh, but there are a wide variety of
groups among the Mennonites and Amish and their lifestyles vary greatly. Your
assumption is rather simple and inaccurate.


>yes, I know, but Lehman's is owned by Amish in Ohio & they have a
>computerized ordering system & their complete catalog, including
>ordering, is on the web! So, it really wasn't such an off-the-wall
>question!

And, I may be wrong, but I believe the owner's of Lehman's are not Amish
themselves, but cater to them (and others who want to live a more simple
lifestyle.)


Sojourner

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Nov 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/10/99
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PilgrimLC wrote:
>
> >They're Mennonites! They don't go in for all this technology stuff! Thanks
> >for the laugh (however unintentional it was!)
>
> Not that I want to rob you of your good laugh, but there are a wide variety of
> groups among the Mennonites and Amish and their lifestyles vary greatly. Your
> assumption is rather simple and inaccurate.

You are correct.

Actually I have never known any Mennonites (personally) who eschewed
such things as telephones and electricity.

As you said, the community varies greatly, but its mostly the Amish who
do without such modern conveniences, and even they (depending on their
bishop) don't necessarily do TOTALLY without.

I grew up in an area where there were lots and lots of Mennonites.

> >yes, I know, but Lehman's is owned by Amish in Ohio & they have a
> >computerized ordering system & their complete catalog, including
> >ordering, is on the web! So, it really wasn't such an off-the-wall
> >question!
>
> And, I may be wrong, but I believe the owner's of Lehman's are not Amish
> themselves, but cater to them (and others who want to live a more simple
> lifestyle.)

Bingo.

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