I was in the store today and walked by the canning area only to see a
new supply of jars at $8.79 a case. Yikes. Now I know why homemade jams
and preserves I see at farmer's markets and bake sales are so costly.
This hobby is starting to get expensive!
gloria p
I hear ya! When canning season started, my store got Golden Harvest jars in
at $5.99 a case....oil prices and everything else started to go up, and now
the same jars are $6.19....not as huge a hike as yours, but then I NEVER see
jars go on sale. Ever. I guess if I do, I'll stock up
Kathi
They ran out of jars and it is so close to the end of the season they
decided it was better to have product on the shelf than an empty
shelf, so they ordered a pallet of them. The problem is that being
so close to the end, they know that some aren't going to sell - until
they knock them down 50% off during the very last part of the season
and all the vultures come running in. Thus, the high price now - they
are hoping to maybe get half of them unloaded at that price before
they have to mark them down.
Keep an eye on them. I would bet you will see them red-tag those
jars for about a week at $4 - $4.50, then all will be gone.
Ted
On the other hand, my oil company stock has jumped ten bucks a share in
the last few months. It's win a few, lose a few.
We buy our cat food in 25 kilo bags (55 pounds). A year ago they were 125
sheckels, now they are 250. Not only that, but with the slide of the dollar
in value it went from 125 @ 4.25 ($30) to 250 @ 3.5 ($70). Last month
when oil was at it's highest, the dollar was 3.25.
Besides the price of shipping going up, the removal of Chinese pet food
from the market raised the demand for other's countries products.
We used to get cat food from Canada, now that goes to the US and we get it
from Brazil.
Geoff.
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At any rate, I was at Dominick's a few weeks ago, and noticed they had a
nice end cap display of canning products -- jars, pectin, canning salt,
pickling spices.
Jars were priced at $12.99 per case.
Anny
Holy crap! I may be REQUIRING my jars back if it gets to that here!
JAY-zuzz!
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Indeed it is. When I got back into canning after 20 years I went into
sticker shock at the price of jars and lids.
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> gloria p
Common garden 10-10-10 fertilizer has doubled in price at Lowe's. Add
another $100 for insecticides this year. Gardening and canning are getting
very expensive. :(
> Marie, have you considered organic bug controls? I use beneficial
> nematodes to wipe out squash bug populations and other grub worms to boot.
No squash bugs here for years now. How about SVBers? The only way I know to
beat them is to plant late in the season. I'm finally getting some
crooknecks. I already tried burying the vine, tinfoil on the vine etc.
Nothing worked.
Also use Safer insecticide soap to get rid of aphids and Bt to get
> rid of other bugs. My fruit trees are sprayed with dormant oil (canola)
> with pyrethrum in it for white scale and other long-term insects.
The only insect pests we have here are whitefly, 2-spotted spider mites and
SVBs. So far none of the organic insecticides worked. None of the chemicals
work either. The pests all have genetic immunity. Our pear tree isn't
bothered by insects (yet.) I sprayed them with the light summer oil
recommended by the Ag agent. It cut the numbers for a few days and not they
reproduce oil or no oil. Neem Oil didn't discourage reproduction and
Pyrethrum didn't kill anything. Or was it Rotenone? I forget which - we used
do much stuff. Nothing worked. The plants in the west garden are still
covered in mites and WF. Since nothing else worked I don't want to keep
trying more products, throwing good money after bad. At sundown I'll spray
them with the flour and buttermilk someone recommended. I'll let you know
tomorrow if it helped.
> Peaceful Valley Supply is one place for beneficial insects but I go to
> www. arbico-organics.com to get mine. Yes, they're more expensive but they
> seem to work for a long time.
What did they "work" on? What did they control or wipe out? What eats
2-spotted mites and whitefly and how do I keep them in the gardens? My
ex-husband tried beneficials some years ago. They rapidly left the garden.
I think he ordered lacewings, ladybugs and something else. It was very
expensive and that was 25 yrs ago. As I mentioned before, there wasn't one
"beneficial insect" left after 48 hours. Being retired we can't afford to
purchase such expensive beneficials with no way to keep them from flying
away. What insects did yours work on and how did you keep them from flying
away?
OK, but as I said, Dominick's is getting pricey. Plus grocery stores (at
least around here) always charge more charge more for jars than Wal-Mart or
other discount places.
I happened to be in Wally World yesterday and looked at jar prices. A box
of Ball pint-sized were I think about $8.
Anny
No bother. :-)
I'm not sure why you are posting this in r.f.p instead of r.g or r.g.e,
but there's a squash variety called "Tatume" that is for the most part
immune to SVB's. They run like pumpkins, and root at every node. Also,
the stems are hard, so the SVB's can only kill one leaf stalk and not
the whole vine. The squash are pretty good too. Just make sure you
give them a lot of room.
Also, if you have any catnip you might wanna pull it up (it's a weed
here) or at least keep the flowers picked off. Catnip is an alternate
host to some kind of virus that attacks squash, and when the catnip and
squash are blooming at the same time, bees and other insects that visit
both plants will spread the virus, which ruins and eventually kills your
squash.
Bob
They won't fly away if there's food. Obviously they wern't the right kind
of
beneficials.
These days the farmers are getting into planting strains that have been
bred or genetically engineered to be pest resistant. I think a lot of the
industry is giving up on the pesticide route since all it does is breed
resistant pests.
Ted
That's interesting. I didn't know that. Fortunately we don't have catnip. I
planted a few crooknecks late and so far so good. But I was out of zucchini
seed.
I don't know how this got cross-posted. Sorry....
They were the ones the person selling them recommended.
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> These days the farmers are getting into planting strains that have been
> bred or genetically engineered to be pest resistant. I think a lot of the
> industry is giving up on the pesticide route since all it does is breed
> resistant pests.
That's a good idea. I Googled but can't find any Tomatoes, peppers and other
veggies resistant to whitefly and/or spider mites. Some resist disease but
as far as I can see.... none we grow resist insect pests.
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> Ted
>
>
> OK, but as I said, Dominick's is getting pricey. Plus grocery stores (at
> least around here) always charge more charge more for jars than Wal-Mart or
> other discount places.
> Anny
Interestingly, my local supermarket has been within a dime of where I
usually buy my jars. I don't know why, but it's well worth the longer
trip to Fleet Farm.
> "zxcvbob" <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in message
> > I'm not sure why you are posting this in r.f.p instead of r.g or r.g.e,
> > but there's a squash variety called "Tatume" that is for the most part
> I don't know how this got cross-posted. Sorry....
It isn't crossposted. The pest control conversation started here,
drifting from jar prices.
Google for "host plant resistance whitefly" and you will find a bunch.
There's people working on these for tomatos right now.
It appears more damage from whitefly is done by them acting as
a carrier for the yellow leaf curl disease so a disease resistant plant is
probably what you want in any case.
Or you can grow in a greenhouse, and use beneficial insects to keep
them down.
Ted
I found over 17,000 sites but didn't see any selling plants that resist them
and the nymphs that completely cover the back of the leaves, sucking the
very life from the leaf and killing it. Whitefly nymphs destroy the leaves
completely when the surface is covered with the feeding nymphs. I don't know
how any plant can resist that kind of assault.
>
> It appears more damage from whitefly is done by them acting as
> a carrier for the yellow leaf curl disease so a disease resistant plant is
> probably what you want in any case.
No, the leaves show no leaf curl nor the plants signs of virus disease. I
took sample with me to the Ag Dept. to be examined. All that was found were
incredible amounts of 2-spot spider mite and white fly adults plus their
nymphs.
>
> Or you can grow in a greenhouse, and use beneficial insects to keep
> them down.
I have a 8.5 X 16' greenhouse that was infested with red-spider mite last
winter. None of the organics worked. A Systemic was used and worked on the
flowers. Two sprayings and the mites were gone but it can't be used on
food crops. What beneficials will stay in a Greenhouse and eat 2-spot SM
and WFs?
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> Ted
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