Le Creuset Nonstick?
Sheellah
really bad things about their older nonstick, but that was their Castoflon
(sp.?) pan. These are Silverstone. Anyone know what grade Silverstone is? It's
not listed on the Dupont Teflon site. They now go by other names such as
Autograph, Platinum Plus etc.
scorpiogirl
Sheelah, I have this one and I love it:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006I4ZF/102-9288161-8664912?v=glance
I think it's silverstone, too. I've only had it for a few months but
it's gotten heavy use and it still looks brand new. Actually, I'm
confused & suspicious when I see bad reviews of nonstick cookware,
especially when the person indicates that they've had the pan replaced
several times or have a pattern of ruining nonstick cookware. I think
their problems are almost always due to the user (misuse, abuse or
just failure to read & abide by the care instructions) rather than any
defect in the cookware. I've NEVER had a problem with nonstick pans
chipping or peeling or becoming sticky. The only time I've seen any
damage in my pans is when a houseguest used metal utensils.
Sheellah
something that totally threw me. They said they were for stove top use only,
and that they shouldn't be placed in the oven. When I mentioned I had never
heard of such a thing, and that my other nonsticks were oven safe in moderate
temperatures, they replied "well these aren't". Any idea why they would tell me
this? Really compromises the usefulness of the pan for me ;-(. Silverstone is
oven safe, and LC's enameled cast iron certainly is, so I have idea what the
problem is!
Has anyone else been told that? Are you using yours in the oven?
scorpiogirl
I've never had any reason to put it in the oven, but I would have
thought it would be oven safe, especially with the iron handle. Maybe
it's the combination of iron/nonstick that can't take oven temps???
Could this be why some people have had problems with peeling???
Sheellah
handle, and the lid isn't much good without the pan. They told me now it's safe
to about 225 degrees which is really a slow oven. Might be partly because of
the phenolic handle, but those I thought were meant to take heat. They said the
nonstick would peel off at higher temps. Anyway, I think I will stick with
their regular cast iron pieces.
scorpiogirl
> Well I called them again about it, as the matching lid I read had an oven safe
> handle, and the lid isn't much good without the pan. They told me now it's safe
> to about 225 degrees which is really a slow oven. Might be partly because of
> the phenolic handle, but those I thought were meant to take heat. They said the
> nonstick would peel off at higher temps. Anyway, I think I will stick with
> their regular cast iron pieces.
I'm really glad you shared this, Sheelah. I'm almost sure there was
nothing included with the pan suggesting that it wasn't oven safe. I
guess I'll have to use my Lodge frying pan when I need to use it in
the oven.
Chris Issariotis
about 450 F which is the max for any non-stick.
Chris
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Sheellah
southern accent. Doubt she was French ;-). First they told me it wasn't oven
safe at all, and then they said I could use a very slow oven. I first asked if
it were safe up to 375, and she said no, only 225. I asked if that was hot
enough to cook a frittata, and she said she didn't know. Can someone with this
cookware please call them too and check, and report back here. Called twice,
and that's what they said ;-(. Said the nonstick would separate if used with
higher heat.
scorpiogirl
> Remember, they are a French company so they probably mean 225 C which is
> about 450 F which is the max for any non-stick.
>
> Chris
>
Good point, Chris. That never occured to me but it would make a lot more sense.
Maladicta1
>enough to cook a frittata, and she said she didn't know.
A cake pan or pie pan will work equally well for a frittata.
Chris Issariotis
225F is barely any higher than what water boils at so how can a pan NOT be
rated above that. You need a temperature of at least 300F to caramelize
anything so common sense should dictate that a frying pan be able to handle
heat higher than 225F. Also how can the frying pan touch a 1000F flame or
electric element that is on the average home range.
Chris
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Sheellah
really would appreciate someone who also has this pan giving LC a call, and see
what you are told, and post. Their # is 877-CREUSET I believe, and it's a free
call!
Chris Issariotis
peppermill a whirl.
Chris
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Sheellah
can't put it into the oven, unless maybe for a paperweight! Any other brilliant
ideas?
Chris Issariotis
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a.l
Don't worry Chris, I don't think Sheelah buys the stuff to use it. She seems
more of the collecting type, in an anthropological sort of way (needs to
know all about it). But I have yet to see her post anything where she says
she has used something she has bought, or where she says something other
than "... but I have yet to try it out.".
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Sheellah
is that my kitchen is being redone, and I've had to spend time away from home,
caring for my mom. I think that's very unfair of you, as I've gone out of my
way to help here, and share what knowledge I do have. I've posted countless
times offering help, as much as I've asked for it! All Chris seems to do is
post inane comments. I tend to buy things at great bargains prices, and then
need to edit due to my space considerations, so I post asking for help here in
doing so!
Your comment didn't even merit a reply, but I'm giving you the courtesy of one
anyway!
a.l
I apologize if you took that as an insult. I never meant it to be one.
See, lots of people collect things, and never use them. If you do that with
cookware, then there is nothing different than some guy collecting comics
and keeping them in the wrapper. No big deal.
If you don't do that, and do use all this cookware you are always
purchasing, then I guess I was wrong. I just got the impression from most of
your posts that you don't really use the stuff. Even this last post of
yours, further confirms that you actually don't use the stuff --- although
one day you will, right?
Anyways, when I was under the impression that you never used your cookware,
your incredulous response to Chris's suggestion that you use the pan and
find out, seemed sort of reasonable. That's why I explained it as such, in
my reply to Chris -- he didn't seem to understand why you snapped. But if
you don't just hang the stuff on the wall, then now I also wonder why you
snapped at him so for suggesting it.
PS - I actually do appreciate your posts on the various bargains you find.
You also do post informative messages about various specifications and
differences between cookwares. I appreciate that as well. The only thing I
perhaps don't appreciate, is your attitude once in a while. I think maybe
you need to relax a bit. But that is just a difference of opinion, or clash
of personalities, or whatever - so not a very big deal. And even still,
there seems to be a *lot* of people in the world that need to relax, so who
even cares?
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Chris Issariotis
Inane comments. I posted not one, but two logical answers to your inane
question. If ever I hear the word Ninny I will forever think of you. Ask
a.l. about my inane post that saved him hundreds of dollars. You also must
bring out the worst in me, as you will find I have never written a
condescending post to anyone except you.
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Debbie Deutsch
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Yes, on a number of occasions there have been threads similiar to this one.
It seems that from time to time Sheelah sees a bargain, buys it, and then
wonders if she should keep it.
Debbie
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