Where to put shutoff valve for gas range

[Mathelo1]

I had the LP company over yesterday to give me a price ($1,300 OUCH!) to
install the LP tank and run a gas line to my range (will be a Garland). He
tells me there needs to be a shut off valve within a couple of feet of the
range that can be reached quickly in case of an emergency. The most typical
places for this are underneath the range or the cabinet next to it. Since
we will be putting drawers next to the range, putting the valve in the
cabinet won't work. But there doesn't really seem to be enough hand
clearance to reach a shutoff valve underneath the range.

So where does everybody put there shut off valves?

BTW, I've got a quote of $4,295 for a 36" Garland range, 6 burners. The
retailer tells me that when the Garland comes out in January - rebadged -
this is about what they think it will be selling for. Apparently they've
recognized their price point was too high.

Thanks!

Louis

[McGuirk1]

>From: "Mathelo1"

>typical
>places for this are underneath the range or the cabinet next to it. Since
>we will be putting drawers next to the range, putting the valve in the
>cabinet won't work.

We just built a home last year. We were able to put the shut off valve behind
one of the drawers. All of the drawers are about 2-3" shorter than the width
of the island to accommodate the gas line and shut off valve. The drawers are
still plenty big.

[Edwin Pawlowski]

"Mathelo1" <Mathelo...@home.com> wrote in message

> So where does everybody put there shut off valves?

Ours is in back of the range. Codes may differ in your state. The cost was
much less also. In fact, 15 years ago it was the cost of filling the tanks
plus $50. You probably need a larger line though for your unit.

Ed
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[Billy]

"Mathelo1" <Mathelo...@home.com> wrote:

> He
>tells me there needs to be a shut off valve within a couple of feet of the
>range that can be reached quickly in case of an emergency.

Where did he request that the shut off valve should be for the water heater?
I don't recall water heaters need such a valve.

[Vox Humana]

"Mathelo1" <Mathelo...@home.com> wrote in message

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> I had the LP company over yesterday to give me a price ($1,300 OUCH!) to
> install the LP tank and run a gas line to my range (will be a Garland).
He
> tells me there needs to be a shut off valve within a couple of feet of the
> range that can be reached quickly in case of an emergency. The most
typical
> places for this are underneath the range or the cabinet next to it. Since
> we will be putting drawers next to the range, putting the valve in the
> cabinet won't work. But there doesn't really seem to be enough hand
> clearance to reach a shutoff valve underneath the range.
>
> So where does everybody put there shut off valves?

I had a gas line installed a few years ago when I remodeled the kitchen.
The plumber put in two valves. One is under the stove and the other is in
the basement. He said that he had to put the one under the stove the meet
code but advised me that in an emergency it would be much safer to turn the
gas off in the basement rather than try reaching under a burning stove.

[Mathelo1]

That's where I'd like to put it but the gas company rep wasn't too keen on
it. I'll push back on him and see if I can't get him to signoff.

"McGuirk1" <mcgu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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[Mathelo1]

We will have a 1 inch line going almost 50". That is a large part of the
cost.

How do you get to the valve if it is in back of the range? Do you have to
pull the range out?

Louis

"Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
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[Mathelo1]

I haven't had a gas water heater in some time but as I recall there is a
shut off on the line to the water heater within about a foot.

Louis

"Billy" <wsto...@icx.net> wrote in message
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[Mathelo1]

That would work!

Louis

"Vox Humana" <vhu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[Edwin Pawlowski]

"Mathelo1" <Mathelo...@home.com> wrote in message

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> We will have a 1 inch line going almost 50". That is a large part of the
> cost.

I have a standard range and a 3/8" copper line is sufficient. Much cheaper
to install. It is only about 20' from tanks to range.

> How do you get to the valve if it is in back of the range? Do you have to
> pull the range out?

Truth is, no valve near the range is good in a real emergency. The one
installed is there if you want to remove the unit. It can be reached by
lifting the top. If I had a fire going I'd run out to the tanks and shut
them down as it would be much safer than trying to reach into a cabinet.
Ed
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[Edwin Pawlowski]

"Billy" <wsto...@icx.net> wrote in message
>

> Where did he request that the shut off valve should be for the water
heater?
> I don't recall water heaters need such a valve.

ANY as appliance should have a valve before the connecting union. I'm sure
some save-a-buck installer may have skipped, but I think most codes call for
it.
Ed
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[Mathelo1]

Don't think 3/8 copper is sufficient for a range with a total BTU output
over 125,000. Granted, I'll seldom being using that all the time but if I
did ...

Louis

"Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message

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[Michael Harp]

I hope that price includes purchase of the tank!

[Mathelo1]

Tank is a rental but includes ongoing support and service.

"Michael Harp" <mha...@copperpans.com> wrote in message
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[Jack Imhoff]

The gas company rep cannot tell you where you can or can't put the shutoff
valve unless the county allows them to also inspect the line, but that is
like the fox guarding the chicken coop. Most likely, as in my county, the
county inspector inspects the gas line installation and can tell you where
to put the shutoff valve.

Jim

"Mathelo1" <Mathelo...@home.com> wrote in message

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[Barry R]

Ours is in the basement. We're in the midst of a rennovation including the
kitchen where where going to put a DCS 4+griddle gas range.

"Mathelo1" <Mathelo...@home.com> wrote in message

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[Steve Calvin]

Vox Humana wrote:
>
> I had a gas line installed a few years ago when I remodeled the kitchen.
> The plumber put in two valves. One is under the stove and the other is in
> the basement. He said that he had to put the one under the stove the meet
> code but advised me that in an emergency it would be much safer to turn the
> gas off in the basement rather than try reaching under a burning stove.

Yup, same setup here. The one in the basement is for emergency shut off
and one under the unit is for moving/replacing the stove.

--
Steve

[Jeff the Chef]

We put ours in the basement too, right under the range. It's a Garland 48"
RPB and uses a 1/2" line...

"Barry R" <Bar...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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[Mathelo1]

I certainly realize that but the gas company rep doesn't want a call back
either, so he should provide good advice.

Louis

"Jack Imhoff" <ihcr...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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[John Higgins]

My answer would be far enough away from the stove that you can shut
everything off there's a kitchen fire. That's one reason you should keep
the fire extinguisher on the other side of the kitchen as well.

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