styrofoam cups & tooth pain
Jennifer Baum
completely insane -- but: I can't drink coffee out of styrofoam cups,
because (i believe) I have so much dental work, theres some wierd thing
that happens in my mouth, almost like an electrical charge or a chemical
reaction...it tastes gross. I can't drink *anything* out of styrofoam
cups, actually, but coffee is what I drink most out of cups.
Anybody else hate styrofoam cups?
H. Kennedy
I'm convinced that styrofoam does something to the taste, turning coffee
into a foul chemical-tasting sludge. Of course, generally said coffee in
the styrofoam isn't top-notch to begin with, but something weird does
seem to happen. In my case, though, it's probably mostly psychological.
Otherwise, why would the smell of styrofoam overpower the smell of coffee?
(I also hate it when my teeth come into contact with the cup. For some
reason, the sensation is like fingernails along a blackboard -- and if
you actually bit into the styrofoam, it would be even worse....)
Okay, so I'm a little nuts, I suppose. :) Give me a nice handmade mug
of just the right size and shape, over any amount of styrofoam-bound
coffee.
Babbling away as usual, I remain,
Y.H.N.
Heather
Jennifer Baum
me, that I willrefuse to drink out of one. It has frequently happened
that I walk into a nice-looking place to get a cup to go, they whip out a
styrofoam cup, and I say - hold on a second. Haven't you got a paper
cup? No? Well, I know you think I'm nuts, but I'm sorry, I can't drink
cofffee from styrofoam cups. It is such an unpleasant experience for me.
Yecchhhh!
Of course, drinking coffe on an airplane is totally out. Styrofoam
everything.
Jennifer Basil
: Has this ever happened to anyone else? Everyone I know thinks I am
Yes...they give me "teeth twinges", and I don't even have any dental
work!
Jenny
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I remember when I first encountered them, must have been about 35 years ago
at some community potluck. Nearly everyone thought they were a great idea
because you didn't have to wash the dishes (how things change, eh?) but my
Dad had exactly your reaction and refused to drink out of them. Said they
made things taste funny and made his teeth hurt. He always took his own
glass mug to the potlucks after that, which embarrased my Mom because he
was the only person who did, but he was absolutly firm about it. So
anyway, you are not alone; my Dad has refused to use them for some 35
years!
Jennifer Baum
notonly can I prove to others that I am not insane (as far as my physical
reaction to styrofoam goes), but I can at long lastcomfort myself that
* I am not alone! *
That's wierd about Jenny who doesn't even have deantl work -- I was sure
that was it. But I guess not. And poor "Dad"! I know just how he
feels! I hope uyou'll pass on to him my comiseration!
Keep posting, Styrofoam Avoiders!
stimpy
: Has this ever happened to anyone else? Everyone I know thinks I am
Yes! Using a styro cup seems to cause a physical pain in my teeth and
mouth, much like the electrical charge you describe. I have a hard time
being around someone who's stirring a metal pot with a metal implement, or
any kind of metal on metal noises too. Eeeeee... I'm getting sore teeth
just thinking about it. Bleh.
stimps
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Jennifer Baum <tor...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>Of course, drinking coffe on an airplane is totally out. Styrofoam
>everything.
>
but there are at least two ways around the styrofoam cup problem...
o If the flight is a meal flight, you usually get a plastic cup for your
coffee. You can keep the cup for the duration of the flight.
o Bring your own commuter mug. This is what I do. I have a 12oz Aladdin
plastic mug that has a cover. IIt keeps the coffee warmer longer, and
it also greatly reduces the odds of turbulance induced splashing.
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Rachel Marie
: Wow! I can't believe you all exist! I am so happy I posted this --
: reaction to styrofoam goes), but I can at long lastcomfort myself that
: * I am not alone! *
: That's wierd about Jenny who doesn't even have deantl work -- I was sure
: that was it. But I guess not. And poor "Dad"! I know just how he
: feels! I hope uyou'll pass on to him my comiseration!
I only have a couple fillings...but I was also sure that was it...
It doesn't only happen with coffee though, I have found that the same
thing happens even with water...anyone else?
: Keep posting, Styrofoam Avoiders!
Jennifer Baum
Yes - soda, water -- I can't think of anything else I would have drunk
from a styrofoam cup.
Is this a common knowledge thing? Does everybody pretty much know
somebody who hates tyrofoam? I had never -- until now -- met *anyone*
else with this reaction.
Paul Worthington
Include me, also. I don't know for sure if the taste of styrofoam-nested
coffee is worse, but I cannot stand the "fingernails-on-the-blackboard"
experience of putting dentata to styrostuff. I'm sure it's not a dental
work interaction, just weirdness of teeth on foam.
Paul
Jeffrey K. Yee
: Of course, drinking coffe on an airplane is totally out. Styrofoam
: everything.
What's wrong with drinking coffee on an airplane? I went to
China on a United Airlines filght and the coffee was quite good.
I believe it was Columbian.
Jeffrey
Jennifer Baum
: Jeffrey
The styrofoam. Styrofoam. STYROFOAM. Get it? The S-T-Y-R-O-F-O-A-M is
the bad part. We can't drink out of styrofoam. It causes T-O-O-T-H
P-A-I-N. That's what this threas is A-B-O-U-T.
Jeffrey K. Yee
: : What's wrong with drinking coffee on an airplane? I went to
: : China on a United Airlines filght and the coffee was quite good.
: : I believe it was Columbian.
: Jeffrey
: The styrofoam. Styrofoam. STYROFOAM. Get it? The S-T-Y-R-O-F-O-A-M is
: the bad part. We can't drink out of styrofoam. It causes T-O-O-T-H
: P-A-I-N. That's what this threas is A-B-O-U-T.
Geez! Sorry!! The plane I was in served coffee in a ceramic cup!
Jennifer Baum
Don't be sorry - I'm just having some fun! :) Also, I am grouchy
because I am styrofoam-intolerant.
Andrew H. Bartlett
that I might regale you all with another anecdote about the Euro coffee
experience, this time in The Republic of Czech (or whatever it's
exactly called these days).
The Hotel Loudzi (or something like that) in Cesky Krumov is
a deal for a room at 25$ a night for two, including breakfast and
_coffee_. The dining room is charming and rustic, and the friendly-
in -a -disinterested -sort -of- way staff (except Loudzi, who is quite nice)
bring
you your food and drink. I ordered a cappuccino (don't remember if
I had a choice) (am I using too many parentheses?) and it arrived hot
and steaming with an apparent nice head of foam. I attacked it with
the vigor that the first cup of coffee of the day deserves, but then found
out that what actually was floating on the top was not foamy milk but rather
a large island of grounds. You know how grounds feel all over your
tongue and lips, I'm sure, because that's how it felt to me too. I felt a
little
bad about spitting my first mouthfull all over the quaint cobblestoned streets
of Cesky Krumlov, but hardly anybody noticed. Anyway, once I knew what
was going on, I let the grounds settle, and found that it was quite a nice
cup of coffee. Ordered another one as a matter of fact. I guess it was
sort of like the Czech version of cowboy coffee. So does anybody know
if this is typical Eastern European style of making coffee?
The moral of the story is: if you can't lick the grounds, don't
drink the coffee.
-Andy-
(Sorry, no fancy sign off). (Oops, there's those darn parentheses again.)
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Cathy
> ... Don't be sorry - I'm just having some fun! :) Also, I am grouchy
> because I am styrofoam-intolerant.
Jennifer and Jeffrey:
HAHAHAHA... I'm glad you guys, er, "made-up" (?). These posts made me laugh out loud. Thanks.
CBoldman
Baum) writes:
Yeah, I get that electrical charge effect, too. Only on the first
sip, though.
Craig
R. C. Alvarado
opposite sensations with certain kinds of *paper* cups? Sometimes I
have a cup of coffee in one and it tastes *great*. I even choose a
paper cup over a ceramic mug sometimes, even though I realize it is
wasteful. I don;t know what it is.
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Jennifer Baum
I never noticed a difference in paper cups. I never even knew there were
different kinds of paper cups.
But getting back to *styrofoam cups* (phew!) - no, only kidding. I
think we've said *just about enough* about styrofoam cups. Well, maybe
not completely. I hate the way they SOUND, too. I mean, when you
scrunch them up and they make that slightly squeaky, spine-curling
sound -- YIKES! Watch out. Okay. NOW I'm done.
Nope. Never noticed paper cups.
Thomas Volz
environment and all that, but I actually do like styrofoam. It's the
best way to keep coffee hot. I always burn my hands with the two paper
cup trick, plus the coffee cools a lot faster in paper.
Maybe I'd feel the same way you all do if I'd ever experienced that
electric shock, but I've never had a problem with styrofoam melting or
subliming into my drink.
I don't really feel passionate about styrofoam or anything, but I felt
like somone had to step in on the love-in.
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>Once upon a time, Jennifer Baum wrote:
>: Has this ever happened to anyone else? Everyone I know thinks I am
>: that happens in my mouth, almost like an electrical charge or a chemical
>: reaction...it tastes gross. I can't drink *anything* out of styrofoam
>: cups, actually, but coffee is what I drink most out of cups.
>
>: Anybody else hate styrofoam cups?
>
>Yes! Using a styro cup seems to cause a physical pain in my teeth and
>mouth, much like the electrical charge you describe. I have a hard time
>being around someone who's stirring a metal pot with a metal implement, or
>any kind of metal on metal noises too. Eeeeee... I'm getting sore teeth
>just thinking about it. Bleh.
>
First post here, so please excuse me if I screw up. I thought this
group would never pass after the alt.config craziness!
Styro cups don't seem to give me problems with caps (not dental), but
I do have a problem with full, black, strong coffee. I go to a shop
that's across the street from work in Santa Barbara (I don't go to
Santa Barbara much, I work at home, and we grind our own coffee) and
when I get coffee from them, usually houseblend, Kona or Kenya, my
coworkers joke that the coffee I drink "eats holes in the bottom of
the cup". Sure enough, the coffee DOES eat holes in the bottom of the
cup! by the time I'm done with the coffee, near the last 2 ounces of
14 ounces, it's dripping out the bottom onto my shirt! I kinda like
the image "the programmer who drinks such strong coffee it eats
through the coffee cup". It is not great coffee, but not awful.
As for another thread (sorry about this, it'll be three threads in one
message) about Trader Joe's, I buy SLO Roast (San Luis Obispo) and
they seem to be very high quality, but SOMETIMES inconsistent, which
bugs me. We'll be happily grinding beans normally and have great
coffee, then one week the brew will taste like CRAP! Mostly, though,
it is consistent and it is the only place I can buy beans in my small
town besides that HORRIBLE brand they sell at Lucky (begins with an
'S'???? "Sathers?")
Cute story about local coffee shop (in my town of 6500). They started
selling espresso a few months ago. ALL their signs (and they made
them BIG) said "Now serving EXPRESSO". I pointed out their error and
they said "huh, what's the big deal". I had one of their
"EXPRESSO's". BIG Mistake! YUCK! Took them 10 minutes to fix it,
too! After my complaints and never going back, though, they are now
selling "Espresso". But I won't buy from them again. I'll spend the
extra five minutes to go into town (Lompoc, CA, near Vandenberg Air
Force Base and 50 NW of Santa Barbara) to get a fairly decent cap, but
nothing like Cafe Boheme or Cafe Flore in San Francisco (I was born
and raised in San Francisco, and spent 20/23rds of my life there and
have had a passion for coffee since high school, and a passion for
coffee beans since I was four. I still want my father's oldfashioned
manually cranked coffee grinder...he never uses it, but won't give it
to me!)
Sorry to go so long! Glad the group was passed and look forward to
reading about the quest for the ulimate cup!
(Oh, about the commuter thread....This looks strange to a California
Highway Patrolman....but I use a beer stein to hold my coffee when I
go on commute because I know I'll need the coffee and can't buy a
decent cup for 70 miles of my current location! Keeps it hot, too,
but a bit hard to explain to an officer....)
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Paul Worthington
|> But getting back to *styrofoam cups* (phew!) - no, only kidding. I
|> think we've said *just about enough* about styrofoam cups. Well, maybe
|> not completely. I hate the way they SOUND, too. I mean, when you
|> scrunch them up and they make that slightly squeaky, spine-curling
|> sound -- YIKES! Watch out. Okay. NOW I'm done.
Not to mention that when you put a styrofoam cup on the end of a
straightened-out coat hanger and hold it over a flame it just sort of
"dissolves" away until it disappears. At least paper will catch fire!
Paul
Styrofoam hater
Andrew Wing
: I know they contribute to all kinds of PCB problems that are killing the
: environment and all that
I think you mean CFCs.
Could anyone with a chemical bent tell us what it is with styro-
foam and coffee or drinks in general? *None* of the trucks around my
building that I know of use foam, they all sell coffee in paper cups.
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Jennifer Baum
: foam and coffee or drinks in general? *None* of the trucks around my
: building that I know of use foam, they all sell coffee in paper cups.
Does anyone feel like cross-posting this thread to a science group? I'm a
little hesitant about the idea myself, but maybe...what the hell?
Or MAYBE the idea is to cross-post it to a *dental* group. Or a *bio*
group. I dunno. But I *would* like an answer! Maybe its a chemical
group. Maybe its...
Jennifer Baum
Any support for alt.hate.styrofoam?
What about soc.styro.pyro.
Or maybe need.help.now...
Paul Worthington
soc.styro.pyro... I like that one. Rolls off the tongue very well (unlike
the vile substance itself). :-)
Paul
Not a pyro, really. Honest.
James Langdell
>After posting a little tale about coffee at McDonald's in Rome, I thought
>that I might regale you all with another anecdote about the Euro coffee
>experience, this time in The Republic of Czech (or whatever it's
>exactly called these days).
>out that what actually was floating on the top was not foamy milk but rather
>a large island of grounds. You know how grounds feel all over your
>tongue and lips, I'm sure, because that's how it felt to me too.
I remember going to Prague in 1980, arriving on the train from Vienna
in the morning, and finding a walk-up place to get a cup of coffee.
As you experienced, there was major grounds-in-the-cup action. Anything
tasted good at that point, thanks to the warmth on that drizzly morning.
I'm not sure I had another cup of coffee while in Prague. That was
before I developed an allergy to tea (which I prefered), and drank more
Pilsner Urquel overall than any other beverages during my trip.
--James Langdell jam...@eng.sun.com
Sun Microsystems Mountain View, Calif.
Karel Vitamvas
>From: jam...@bassclar.Eng.Sun.COM (James Langdell)
>Subject: Re: Coffee in Czechy:
>Date: 24 Jun 1994 23:47:59 GMT
Mcdonald's is now in Prague & Brno, so you can get a regular coffee now :-)
regards,
Karel
Peter Wolesagle
Unfortunately, so is instant.
Pete
Steve Dunham
Actually, there don't exist any `Styrofoam' cups. Styrofoam is a
registered trademark of Dow-Corning and Dow says that it doesn't make
any cups out of it.
Steve
dun...@gdl.msu.edu
Richard M Donnelly
>dr...@beta.lanl.gov (Andrew H. Bartlett) writes:
>> what actually was floating on the top was not foamy milk but rather
>>a large island of grounds. You know how grounds feel all over your
>>tongue and lips, I'm sure, because that's how it felt to me too.
Okay, I will admit that to an outsider, it's an acquired taste, but the
proper method as I understand it, is to wait a bit. Gently coax the
grounds to the bottom with some minimal stirring. They will sink, and stay
there! In the U.S. we call this "camp coffee" when you just boil up the
whole mess in a can or whatever you've got. Anyway, in Prague it tasted
pretty good to me!
Paul Worthington
Actually, we weren't talking about "Styrofoam", but styrofoam. :-)
Kinda like Kleenex vs. kleenex, Band-Aids vs. bandaids, Q-Tips vs. q-tips,
Jell-o vs. jello, and Saran Wrap vs. saran wrap. Trademarked/Copyrighted
brand names don't mean a damn thing to those who speak the vernacular, and
the right-holding companies know it and there's nothing they can do about
it. :-)
:-)
Paul
Ed Janik
pwor...@raisinets.den.mmc.com (Paul Worthington) wrote:
>
> Actually, we weren't talking about "Styrofoam", but styrofoam. :-)
> Kinda like Kleenex vs. kleenex, Band-Aids vs. bandaids, Q-Tips vs. q-tips,
> Jell-o vs. jello, and Saran Wrap vs. saran wrap. Trademarked/Copyrighted
> brand names don't mean a damn thing to those who speak the vernacular, and
> the right-holding companies know it and there's nothing they can do about
> it. :-)
>
> :-)
>
> Paul
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coffee. Having been spoiled by the wonderful coffee in Austria, it was
quite a shock. I suspected I had been there too long when I began
to really like it. (But I still prefer a good Viennese Melange.)
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> Has this ever happened to anyone else? Everyone I know thinks I am
> that happens in my mouth, almost like an electrical charge or a chemical
> reaction...it tastes gross. I can't drink *anything* out of styrofoam
> cups, actually, but coffee is what I drink most out of cups.
>
> Anybody else hate styrofoam cups?
http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_does_styrofoam_hurt_your_teath
happens to me, too.
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> It's called electrostatic induction, guys. Duh. Nothing to do with dental work, nothing to do with contents of cup or taste. Styrofoam carries electrical currents. And shame on those who posted things on this long chain that have NOTHING to do with Styrofoam.
pups...@gmail.com
> Has this ever happened to anyone else? Everyone I know thinks I am
> completely insane -- but: I can't drink coffee out of styrofoam cups,
> because (i believe) I have so much dental work, theres some wierd thing
> that happens in my mouth, almost like an electrical charge or a chemical
> reaction...it tastes gross. I can't drink *anything* out of styrofoam
> cups, actually, but coffee is what I drink most out of cups.
>
> Anybody else hate styrofoam cups?