serving Fuller's ESB
Rob Keeney
I bought a bottle of Fuller's ESB last night, having heard it's
virtues extolled here, and I was wondering what the right temperature
is to serve it. Should I stick it in the `fridge or is that blasphemy?
Thanks for your time!
Rob
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Tim Buss
Well, traditionally the pub cellar is 12 to 14 degrees Celsius. Your
fridge is nearer to 4 degrees which will tend to suppress your beer's
flavour, so just put it in for half an hour or so.
Fullers make good beer, but the bottled and keg stuff I've had in the US
has been pretty mediocre to say the least. So if you don't think much of
it, don't write their beer off. Wait 'till you get a chance to go to the
UK and find a pub that has it on cask. BLOODY MARVELLOUS STUFF!!
Tim.
marshallsay timothy
Rob Keeney <r...@sage.cc.purdue.edu> wrote:
>Hey y'all,
> I bought a bottle of Fuller's ESB last night, having heard it's
>virtues extolled here, and I was wondering what the right temperature
>
>According to CAMRA (The Best Pubs in London p.16)
"Real ale should be served at a temperature of 55-56 degrees F (12-13 degrees
C.) This is a cool temperature that brings out the best characteristics of a
top fermented beer. It is a higher temperature than those used for serving
lager beers, but it is pure mythology that real ale is "warm"."
This is really aimed at draught beers, but I see no reason why it shouldn't
apply to bottled brews. Temperature is a highly subjective thing. If you
like your beer pulled out of barrels of ice big enough to fish in, thus
qualifying as a mountain man, by all means do so, but if you want to taste
one of the very best beers as it was supposed to be served, 55-56 ought to
do nicely.
Just FYI, a huge number of the "Best pubs..." in this excellent publication
just happen to be Fuller's' establishments.
Tim M.
Bill Weber (DVNS)
>Hey y'all,
> I bought a bottle of Fuller's ESB last night, having heard it's
>virtues extolled here, and I was wondering what the right temperature
>is to serve it. Should I stick it in the `fridge or is that blasphemy?
> Thanks for your time!
> Rob
>
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Pardon my ignorance, but what does ESB stand for. While visiting
in Washington state I had some Red Hook ESB which I enjoyed, but
nobody knew what ESB stood for.
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>In article <1994Jul13.1...@micom.com>, bwe...@micom.com (Bill
>Weber (DVNS)) wrote:
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>> Pardon my ignorance, but what does ESB stand for. While visiting
>> in Washington state I had some Red Hook ESB which I enjoyed, but
>> nobody knew what ESB stood for.
>
More specifically, a bitter is an English-style ale which
emphasizes the bitterness of hops, as opposed to the lightly hopped
and usually lower alcohol 'mild.' There are three general classes
of bitter-- the bitter (sometimes 'ordinary'), special or best
bitter, and extra special bitter (ESB, or sometimes XB). The
starting gravity (simplistically, malt content), and hence the
alcohol level, is higher for each successive designation. (As far
as alcohol content goes, Jackson lists bitter at 3.75-4% ABV,
best at 4-4.75%, and ESB at 5.5%).
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steve johnson
> Pardon my ignorance, but what does ESB stand for. While visiting
> in Washington state I had some Red Hook ESB which I enjoyed, but
> nobody knew what ESB stood for.
extra special bitter.
Carl E. Anderson
>Pardon my ignorance, but what does ESB stand for. While visiting
>in Washington state I had some Red Hook ESB which I enjoyed, but
>nobody knew what ESB stood for.
Extra Special Bitter (to distinguish it from what is technically
termed Ordinary Bitter).
Cheers,
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Bill> Pardon my ignorance, but what does ESB stand for. While
Bill> visiting in Washington state I had some Red Hook ESB which I
Bill> enjoyed, but nobody knew what ESB stood for.
Extra Strong Bitter
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|> >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Weber (DVNS) <bwe...@micom.com> writes:
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|> Bill> Pardon my ignorance, but what does ESB stand for. While
|> Bill> visiting in Washington state I had some Red Hook ESB which I
|> Bill> enjoyed, but nobody knew what ESB stood for.
|>
|> Extra Strong Bitter
|
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Kevin Hynes
|> Fullers make good beer, but the bottled and keg stuff I've had in the US
|> has been pretty mediocre to say the least. So if you don't think much of
|> it, don't write their beer off. Wait 'till you get a chance to go to the
|> UK and find a pub that has it on cask. BLOODY MARVELLOUS STUFF!!
|>
|> Tim.
This scares me. I absolutely love the Fuller's ESB on tap here in the
States. If the stuff in the UK is that much better, I might have to
change my citizenship!
Tim Buss
In article <303inh$p...@theopolis.orl.mmc.com> Kevin Hynes,
hy...@chekov.orl.mmc.com writes:
>This scares me. I absolutely love the Fuller's ESB on tap here in the
>States. If the stuff in the UK is that much better, I might have to
>change my citizenship!
>
In my humble opinion, the cask Fullers ESB is far superior to the keg
stuff.
But the cask London Pride is even better :-)
It's all because the keg version is a dead beer. It's been Pasteurised to
kill off the yeast, filtered, then artificially carbonated. This
processing destroys much of the flavour.
So, enjoy the keg stuff but prepare yourself for a religous experience
should you find yourself in or around London someday.
All the best,
Tim.
Stephen Heller
>Hey y'all,
> I bought a bottle of Fuller's ESB last night, having heard it's
>virtues extolled here, and I was wondering what the right temperature
>is to serve it. Should I stick it in the `fridge or is that blasphemy?
> Thanks for your time!
> Rob
I find it best around 55-62F. I usually buy it un-chilled, put 1
bottle in the fridge and leave one bottle at room temp. Then I mix
the cold with the warm in a large mug. If I intend to drink 4
bottles 2 go in the fridge, 2 stay out, then I mix them as I drink
them. It may not be "correct", but it seems to bring the overall
beer to about the most flavorful temp (to my taste, at least).
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Paul Worth
: >Hey y'all,
: > I bought a bottle of Fuller's ESB last night, having heard it's
: >virtues extolled here, and I was wondering what the right temperature
: >is to serve it. Should I stick it in the `fridge or is that blasphemy?
: > Thanks for your time!
: > Rob
If you like ale and you like hops you won't be disappointed at any temperature.
I prefer it at about 55 degrees. It has that great hops aroma and is cold
enough to be refreshing at that temp. To me, the second sip of a mug of ESB
is the best. The first sip is somewhat bitter but once it gets my tastebuds
"primed" it's the best beer on earth. Wellll, I haven't tasted them all but
definitely the best I've ever had...
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Rupert Glascow
beers. As for temperature, all I can remember is that we used to drink it at
UK cellar temperatures which would be well below what is commonly called
room temperature. Beers in the States (and elsewhere) tend to be best
chilled but ESB needs to be just a little warmer. I thought the "mixing
idea" was a good one with the added bonus of getting a near pint to drink
instead of one measly bottle!
For the record, I once went to the Chiswick brewery and tested some ales.
ESB can be a bit heavy if you want to keep a clear head - can you get London
Pride in the US? It is fruity, hoppy and very nicely balanced. All this talk
is very frustrating for me though - I live in Singapore - and getting a
decent pint is virtually impossible!
Rupert
Jonathan Stockley
>If you like ale and you like hops you won't be disappointed at any temperature.
>I prefer it at about 55 degrees. It has that great hops aroma and is cold
>enough to be refreshing at that temp. To me, the second sip of a mug of ESB
>is the best. The first sip is somewhat bitter but once it gets my tastebuds
>"primed" it's the best beer on earth. Wellll, I haven't tasted them all but
>definitely the best I've ever had...
>
beers but the one thing that they had in common was that if they were served too
"warm" they suffered dramatically. The Railway & The Coach & Horses in Billericay,
Essex both served excellent Abbot and for Fuller's just about any Fuller's pub
seemed to have it just right.
I've only had Fuller's ESB keg once since moving here (at Lion's Brewery, Dublin CA).
It's not bad and if you like it, you'll love the "real" stuff in Blighty!
Now a questions:
Is there anywhere in the Bay Area that stocks Fuller's Golden Pride? A truly
marvelous bottled/canned *strong* ale - gotta love that stuff!
Well, back to the home-brew!
Cheers (Hic!)
Jo
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jona...@sybase.com "Jonathan Stockley" writes:
>
> Now a questions:
> Is there anywhere in the Bay Area that stocks Fuller's Golden Pride? A truly
> marvelous bottled/canned *strong* ale - gotta love that stuff!
>
Fullers Golden Pride? Do you mean London Pride? If so, it's not a strong
beer - 4.1%ABV, a fairly standard _Best Bitter_.
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>In article <Ct9Hs...@sybase.com>
> jona...@sybase.com "Jonathan Stockley" writes:
>> Now a questions:
>> Is there anywhere in the Bay Area that stocks Fuller's Golden Pride? A truly
>> marvelous bottled/canned *strong* ale - gotta love that stuff!
>>
>
>Fullers Golden Pride? Do you mean London Pride? If so, it's not a strong
>beer - 4.1%ABV, a fairly standard _Best Bitter_.
>
cans or bottles. I don't remember what the ABV is (that's not how I measure the
pleasure!) but it is powerful stuff. Anyway, still I'm looking for it...
Alison Scott
jona...@sybase.com "Jonathan Stockley" writes:
>No, I most definately mean Golden Pride. As far as I'm aware it's only
> available in
>cans or bottles. I don't remember what the ABV is (that's not how I measure the
>pleasure!) but it is powerful stuff. Anyway, still I'm looking for it...
It occasionally turns up on draught at beer festivals. The ABV is, er,
enormous; certainly most unlike London Pride!
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