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Jerome B. Senturia

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Apr 11, 2009, 5:32:18 PM4/11/09
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On the "Geffen Vanilla Cereal" box it says. non-gebrokts - kosher for
passover. So what is the meaning of non-gebrokts???

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Nick Cramer

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Apr 11, 2009, 9:39:23 PM4/11/09
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"Jerome B. Senturia " <senturi...@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> On the "Geffen Vanilla Cereal" box it says. non-gebrokts - kosher for
> passover. So what is the meaning of non-gebrokts???

>From http://havolim.blogspot.com/

"A little note about Gebrokts. To soak matza is called to brok, and soaked
matza is Gebrokt, or Gebrokst, or Gebrokts. I've read that this is a german
word for broken, used here because people crumble their matza and put it
into soup. I find this an unlikely etymology for this grotesque little
word, non-linguist that I am. In Hebrew, it's called Shru'yah: if you're
want to use Yiddish for soaked matza, you would call it Geveikt, which
means soaked, not Gebrokt. Also, what is it with the tz at the end of the
word? If anything, it should be Gebrokt, not Gebrokts."

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Janet Wilder

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Apr 12, 2009, 9:07:37 AM4/12/09
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Gebrokts or however one spells it means anything that is made with
matzoh. There are some very religious people who do not believe that
matzoh should be eaten in any other form than the flat, crispy version.
These people are usually the ones who only eat Shmura matzoh, which is
kind of an extra-kosher version of matzoh where the wheat is actually
observed by a Mashgiach from the time of harvest right through the
milling and baking of the matzoth within the required time limits.

The people who don't eat gebrokts will not eat anything containing
matzoh meal, matzoh cake meal, matzoh farfel, etc. They will eat potato
starch.

I hope this helps explain it.

Chag Samaich.

Janet in way-the-heck-south Texas

Jerome B. Senturia

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Apr 12, 2009, 2:47:57 PM4/12/09
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Janet (and Nick),

Thank you. A very helpful and informative answer. The two answers
together give derivation and definition. We are having a beautiful cool
Pesach here in northeastern Vermont.

Jerry

Adelle

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Apr 14, 2009, 12:48:42 PM4/14/09
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"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@vtxb.com> wrote in message
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> Gebrokts or however one spells it means anything that is made with matzoh.
> There are some very religious people who do not believe that matzoh should
> be eaten in any other form than the flat, crispy version. These people are
> usually the ones who only eat Shmura matzoh, which is kind of an
> extra-kosher version of matzoh where the wheat is actually observed by a
> Mashgiach from the time of harvest right through the milling and baking of
> the matzoth within the required time limits.
>
> The people who don't eat gebrokts will not eat anything containing matzoh
> meal, matzoh cake meal, matzoh farfel, etc. They will eat potato starch.
>
> I hope this helps explain it.
>
> Chag Samaich.
>

Someone just asked this of our Rabbi last Shabbat.

There is a new stringency that some ultra Orthodox adhere to that forbids
matzah which has been re-wet. The reason being that there is a question
about whether all the flour in any particular piece of matzah has actually
been baked and is no longer flour. If it is still flour, then the wetting
might cause this flour to ferment, resulting in it being chometz.So they
will not eat any matzah that has had liquid added to it (referring back to
Nick Cramer's answer with a definition of gebrokt).

Adelle Stavis

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