gemberbolussen

[Stacey Knecht]

Dear Group,

Does anyone here know a good English translation for the Dutch word
'gemberbolus'? I need it for a translation, from the Dutch, of a book about
working-class Jews in prewar Amsterdam.
A gemberbolus is a very sticky, dark brown sort of bun, I've seen them
mostly donut-shaped (kind of) and they were sold in the Old Jewish quarter
of Amsterdam. A traditional treat.

Any thoughts? Preferably - but not exclusively - from a native speaker of
English.

thanks!
Stacey Knecht

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[Stacey Knecht]

"Stacey Knecht" <stac...@home.nl> wrote in message news:...

> That's my problem exactly.

> "Ginger bolus" is pretty unrecognizable to an English reader. As far

> as what the shape signifies to a Dutch reader - I'm not Dutch, though

> I'm surrounded by people who are ;-)... I could ask around. I've never

> heard the word used here (in Holland) by anyone, except when referring

> to these particular goodies, which, according to my Dutch dictionary,

> are "flat, round cakes (they're not really that flat), made of flour,

> milk, citron, cinnamon, and syrup (not maple, just this dark sugar

> syrup they sell here). Stacey

>

> "Richard Wright" <rich...@tig.com.au> wrote in message

> news:l9cjcusv9eflnolmn...@4ax.com...

> > Stacey:

> >

> > What kind of shape does the word 'bolus' signify to a Dutch speaker?

> >

> > The Oxford English Dictionary gives example of the words bole and

> > bolus (when derived from the Greek) meaning a large pill.

> >

> > However there is another word of different origin in English -

> > 'bole', derived from Germanic languages. It means anything of a

> > cylindrical shape like the trunk of a tree, as a roll, a pillar.

> >

> > Unfortunately neither word is in common use, so a translation

> > "ginger bole" or "ginger bolus" would signify nothing to the English

> > reader.

> >

> > Richard

> >

> >

> > On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:15:46 +0200, "Stacey Knecht"

> > <stac...@home.nl>

[Sue Feder]

I have a Dutch friend who is fluent enough in both Dutch and English to be paid to translate books. I've passed this note on to her and if she can help I'll surely post her response.

 

Sue Feder

 

"Stacey Knecht" <stac...@home.nl> wrote in message news:0mcy8.153101$oI.10...@zwoll1.home.nl...

[Stacey Knecht]

Thanks! (I should tell you, though, I'm paid to translate books too! It's my profession. But some words are very, very hard to trace)

 

Stacey

"Sue Feder" <Monks...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:pyqy8.195057$3L2.17...@bin7.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...

[Jessica]

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:31:48 +0200, Stacey Knecht wrote:

> "Stacey Knecht" <stac...@home.nl> wrote in message news:...
>
>> That's my problem exactly.
>> "Ginger bolus" is pretty unrecognizable to an English reader. As far
>> as what the shape signifies to a Dutch reader - I'm not Dutch, though
>> I'm surrounded by people who are ;-)... I could ask around. I've never
>> heard the word used here (in Holland) by anyone, except when referring
>> to these particular goodies, which, according to my Dutch dictionary,
>> are "flat, round cakes (they're not really that flat), made of flour,
>> milk, citron, cinnamon, and syrup (not maple, just this dark sugar
>> syrup they sell here).

Hi Stacey,

I can't give you a translation, but maybe the following information can
help:

The flat round cakes are Zeeuwse bolussen, and they are different from
Gember bolussen.
Bolus is a old dutch word for turd.
The Zeeuwse bolus is dark brown, and flat and spiral formed.
The gember bolus looks like a scone, it is said to be brought to
Holland by Sephardic people who called it 'bollo'. That became 'bolus'
(stupid Dutchmen ;-)).
There are two kind of bolussen which are sold at Jewish bakeries, gember
(ginger) bolussen and orgeade bolussen (with a bitter and sweet almonds).

Gember bolussen were discussed in this group last year and I also
provided a recipe for them. To read the posts you can go to Google groups:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=97hc2v%24gmq%242%40news1.xs4all.nl&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dginger%2Bbole%2Bgroup:rec.food.cuisine.jewish%26hl%3Den%26selm%3D97hc2v%2524gmq%25242%2540news1.xs4all.nl%26rnum%3D1

(This is a very long url , so it may wrap in your newsreader)

greetings,
Jessica

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