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Corey Richardson

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Sep 27, 2008, 7:44:10 PM9/27/08
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Paul Newman has died.


Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
continue?

Thanks.

Julia Altshuler

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Sep 27, 2008, 7:44:59 PM9/27/08
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Yes, it will.
--Lia

cybercat

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Sep 27, 2008, 7:57:40 PM9/27/08
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"Corey Richardson" <coreyr...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Of course they will.


Wayne Boatwright

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Sep 27, 2008, 8:13:54 PM9/27/08
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On Sat 27 Sep 2008 04:44:10p, Corey Richardson told us...

All of Newman's products should continue. IIRC, all profits from the sale
of his products were funneled back to his foundations/charities, and I
believe one of his daughters is chiefly involved in administering these.

--
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PeterLucas

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Sep 27, 2008, 8:21:00 PM9/27/08
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Corey Richardson <coreyr...@googlemail.com> wrote in
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http://63.131.143.186/

"Today, Newman’s Own is a thriving company with hundreds of millions of
dollars in annual revenue. As always, all profits are donated to charity
through Newman's Own Foundation. We will miss Paul, but we will honor
his vision for the Common Good through dedicated stewardship of his
company that will perpetuate his philanthropic legacy. Paul wouldn’t
have it any other way."


Here in Oz we have this push to "buy Australian"....... but I always buy
Newmans dressings and sauces becase a) they taste bloody great, and b) I
know the profits are going to go to charity...... for real.

I will continue to buy them.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

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Sky

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Sep 27, 2008, 9:24:59 PM9/27/08
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Do you, Corey, have reason to believe otherwise??? Why do you doubt
Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would discontinue? He was a
man who gave back more than he ever received.

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

Bob Terwilliger

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Sep 27, 2008, 10:06:47 PM9/27/08
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Sky wrote:

> Why do you doubt Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would
> discontinue?

Er... I don't think you wrote quite what you meant, there.

Bob


Sky

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Sep 27, 2008, 11:08:22 PM9/27/08
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Probably - I do tend to get backwards (sigh).

Andy

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Sep 28, 2008, 8:30:59 AM9/28/08
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Sky said...

> Corey Richardson wrote:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7639614.stm
>>
>> Paul Newman has died.
>>
>> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
>> continue?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Do you, Corey, have reason to believe otherwise??? Why do you doubt
> Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would discontinue? He was a
> man who gave back more than he ever received.
>
> Sky


His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to step
up to the plate more so!

Andy
Go Phillies!!! That's Philadelphia baseball for the rest of you BUMS!!!

CartG...@gmail.com

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Sep 28, 2008, 11:48:29 AM9/28/08
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On Sep 27, 7:44 pm, Corey Richardson <coreyrchr...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

Why wouldn't they? It's not like he personally had been mixing up the
salad dressings and pouring them into bottles out back in the
kitchen.
He did base the original "Newmans Own" vinaigrette on the salad
dressing recipe he developed in his own kitchen, but at this point,
it's just his name on the bottles, nothing more. There's absolutely no
reason for the brand to disappear.

Newman and his friend author A.E. Hotchner (Papa Hemingway, King Of
The Hill, Everyone Comes To Elaine’s) started Newman’s Own as a bit of
a lark.

For years, the two men had been making salad dressing and giving it
away as Christmas gifts when they went caroling in their Connecticut
neighbourhood.

They decided to try to market the salad dressing, starting out by
placing it in local shops, and after getting friends to do taste tests
they settled on a single product: an oil-and-vinegar salad dressing.
Newman put his picture on the label, apparently as a joke, and then he
convinced a friend in the grocery business to get the ball rolling by
taking a few thousands cases.

Various grocery consultants and marketing experts were all very happy
to warn Newman that he could only lose money, and lots of it, with his
tiny new business, but Newman’s Own Olive Oil & Vinegar Salad Dressing
made a profit its first year out. The company then grew in leaps and
bounds, and as Newman food fans know, the single salad dressing was
joined by other dressings, spaghetti sauces, salsa and lemonade, among
other products. (We recommend the Newman’s Own grape juice.)

About 15 years ago, Newman’s daughter Nell helped the company branch
out with a new line of organic products that includes organic dog and
cat food.

cybercat

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Sep 28, 2008, 12:44:01 PM9/28/08
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<CartG...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 27, 7:44 pm, Corey Richardson <coreyrchr...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7639614.stm
>
> Paul Newman has died.
>
> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?
>
> Thanks.

>About 15 years ago, Newman’s daughter Nell helped the company branch


>out with a new line of organic products that includes organic dog and
>cat food.

I love Joanne Woodward's story about going out to a restaurant and having
Paul take his salad to the wash room and rinse it so he could apply his own
mix.


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Corey Richardson

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Sep 29, 2008, 9:35:23 PM9/29/08
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:19:40 +0100, "Mike............"
<mikemc...@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:

>Sky said

>
>> Why do you doubt
>> Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would discontinue?
>

>because hes a troll who constantly xposts nonsense between these two
>groups.

1 I'm *not* a troll!

2 It's *not* nonsense, it's a valid question!


Corey Richardson

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Sep 29, 2008, 9:38:18 PM9/29/08
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:27:03 -0400, "Putz Place" <pu...@place.orgy>
wrote:

>Out, damn'd Troll! out, I say!
>One; two: why, then 'tis time to do't.
>Hell is murky.
>Fie, my lord, fie, a soldier, and afeard?
>What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our pow'r to accompt?
>Yet who would have thought the old Troll to have had so much blood in him?
>
>
>"Corey Richardson" <coreyr...@googlemail.com> Trolled in message
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>Dumb ass. Do you really believe that he made everything in his own little
>kitchen, all by his little own hands?
>
>Go suck a goat, fart-face
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>

Why did you set your follow up to alt.usenet.kooks, troll?


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Dimitri

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Sep 30, 2008, 4:49:59 PM9/30/08
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"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns9B27565...@216.196.97.136...


His daughter spun off the organic division - Newman's own website has the
whole story.

Dimitri

Dave

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Oct 1, 2008, 11:40:11 AM10/1/08
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Dimitri wrote:
>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns9B27565...@216.196.97.136...

>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to

>> step
>> up to the plate more so!

Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was
on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.


Dave hoping he trimmed this right.

Pete Wilkins

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Oct 1, 2008, 11:53:24 AM10/1/08
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"Dave" <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns9B27565...@216.196.97.136...
>
>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to step
>>> up to the plate more so!
>
> Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was on a
> cookery prog on TV in the UK.

I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the states.
Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos we played
rounders. :-)

--
Pete


Nancy Young

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Oct 1, 2008, 12:04:55 PM10/1/08
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Pete Wilkins wrote:
> "Dave" <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote

>>> "Andy" <q> wrote

>>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going
>>>> to step up to the plate more so!
>>
>> Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it
>> was on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.
>
> I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the
> states. Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which
> 'cos we played rounders. :-)

Home plate! Step up to bat.

nancy

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Andy

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Oct 1, 2008, 12:10:44 PM10/1/08
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Pete Wilkins said...


This should clear up everything!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

Andy

Pete Wilkins

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Oct 1, 2008, 12:21:14 PM10/1/08
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"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns9B2A7B9...@216.196.97.136...
> Pete Wilkins said...

>>
>> I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the
>> states. Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos
>> we played rounders. :-)
>
>
> This should clear up everything!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M
>
> Andy

That is an absolute gem! Thanks for posting.

--
Pete


Pete Wilkins

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Oct 1, 2008, 12:12:40 PM10/1/08
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"Mike..........." <mikemc...@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Following up to Pete Wilkins

>
>> lieve stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the states.
>> Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos we played
>> rounders. :-)
>
> same thing isnt it?

LOL! No comment. (This is crossposted.)

--
Pete


Andy

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Oct 1, 2008, 1:05:35 PM10/1/08
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Pete Wilkins said...


Welcome!

Andy

Dave

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Oct 1, 2008, 4:55:12 PM10/1/08
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Andy wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M##


I'm not too sure about that. Only the USAians could get away with that
slap stick. :-)

Dave

Dave

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Oct 1, 2008, 4:57:06 PM10/1/08
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Pete Wilkins wrote:

Thanks for that. I feel more clued up now.

Dave

Dave

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Oct 1, 2008, 4:59:25 PM10/1/08
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Andy wrote:

> Dave said...

> Dave,
>
> When you "step up to the plate" in baseball it means you're in the game!
> Not just sitting in the dugout the whole game (OR season). "Moreso" means
> she'll be in the game (biz) a lot more than usual.
>
> Now when YOU step up to the plate for dinner, that could only mean NO
> LEFTOVERS! :D
>
> Best,
>
> Best,

Many thanks.

Dave

Andy

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Oct 1, 2008, 5:10:45 PM10/1/08
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Dave said...


Welcomes!

Andy

Gill Smith

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"Corey Richardson" <coreyr...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7639614.stm
>
> Paul Newman has died.
>
>
> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?

Make mine two lumps.


-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/

_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_


Andy

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Oct 1, 2008, 12:24:18 PM10/1/08
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Dave said...


Dave,

When you "step up to the plate" in baseball it means you're in the game!
Not just sitting in the dugout the whole game (OR season). "Moreso" means
she'll be in the game (biz) a lot more than usual.

Now when YOU step up to the plate for dinner, that could only mean NO
LEFTOVERS! :D

Best,

Best,

Andy

Andy

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Oct 1, 2008, 5:29:51 PM10/1/08
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Dave said...


Dave,

We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!

Andy

Dimitri

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"Dave" <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/step+up+to+the+plate

step up to the plate

to take responsibility for doing something. It is time companies stepped up
to the plate and made sure the meat they sell is safe to eat.
Related vocabulary: step in
Etymology: based on the baseball meaning of step up to the plate (= move
into position to hit the ball)
See also: plate, step
Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms � Cambridge University Press 2003

Dave

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Oct 2, 2008, 1:14:36 PM10/2/08
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Thanks for that. As I understand it, it comes from baseball. I can now
see how it evolved.

Dave

Dimitri

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"Dave" <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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Happy to help - idioms are an important part of language and usually
difficult for the non native speaker to understand.

Dimitri

Giusi

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"Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> ha scritto nel messaggio ...
>
> "Dave" wrote in message

> >> Dimitri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dave" <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:t4CdnfIb54JBBH7V...@bt.com...
>>>
>>>> Dimitri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>>>>> step up to the plate more so!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where did this expression originate from? >>>>
>>>
>>> step up to the plate
>>>
>>> to take responsibility for doing something.
>>
>> Thanks for that. As I understand it, it comes from baseball. I can now
>> see how it evolved.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Happy to help - idioms are an important part of language and usually
> difficult for the non native speaker to understand.
>
> Dimitri

Like the Britishism, "Spend a penny" which I could never have figured out on
my own, because it was always at least a nickel in the US. They don't have
pay toilets anymore, do they? When did they finish?


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Tim C.

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On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:29:51 -0500, Andy wrote in post :
<news:Xns9B2AB1B...@216.196.97.136> :

> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!

What convenient, short term would you use to distinguish citizens of the
USA from others on the American continents?

--
Tim C.

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Andy

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Tim C. said...


Every country comprising all the "Americas" fly their own flags that
distinguishes them as unique and individual nations. For Brazil, we know
them as Brazilian. Peru, Peruvians, Argentina, Argentineans. Would a
Brazilian say he was from South America without losing a sense of their
national pride?

A similar example can be drawn with Asia and Asians. It's a general thing
when speaking collectively about the Far East countries. But we distinguish
them as unique and individual nations. Chinese for China, Japanese for
Japan, etc.

You wouldn't call a travel agent and book a flight to Tokyo, Asia or
Acapulco, Central America, or Montreal, North America would you?!

BTW, American is only four syllables, USAians is five syllables (USA-i-an).
American is THE convenient short term. Granted USAian is too commonly used
and it IS too late to bring it up for further debate but it's not in my
vocabulary.

Andy
American, not North American or USAian

Giusi

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Oct 3, 2008, 6:27:36 AM10/3/08
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"Andy" <q> ha scritto nel messaggio > BTW, American is only four syllables,
USAians is five syllables (USA-i-an).
> American is THE convenient short term. Granted USAian is too commonly used
> and it IS too late to bring it up for further debate but it's not in my
> vocabulary.
>
> Andy
> American, not North American or USAian

Be that as it may be, I know many other Americans who find it offensive,
especially South Americans. I don't always, but sometimes say USian
depending on the context.


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Giusi

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"Mike..........."
> Following up to Giusi

>
>> I know many other Americans who find it offensive,
>> especially South Americans.
>
> they *do* find "americans" offensive. I didnt know that.
> --
> Mike .......

Don't snip me into insults I didn't make.


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Nancy Young

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Mike........... wrote:
> Following up to Andy

>
>> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!
>
> Its a confused term, I think many europeans see "american" as
> disrespectful of south americans, but i never heard a south american
> say that and as USian sounds daft I dont see a practical change
> coming.

Well, South Americans are just that, just as we are North Americans.
America is not a continent.

But our country is called America.

nancy

kat

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I thought it was called the United States of America. Just as here we live
in assorted parts of a country called either Great Britain or the United
Kingdom, depending which bits you are including at the time.

Despite many years online I have only recently seen this USAian thing; it
looks clumsy to me.

--
kat
>^..^<


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Nancy Young

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kat wrote:
> Nancy Young said:
>> Mike........... wrote:
>>> Following up to Andy
>>>
>>>> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!
>>>
>>> Its a confused term, I think many europeans see "american" as
>>> disrespectful of south americans, but i never heard a south american
>>> say that and as USian sounds daft I dont see a practical change
>>> coming.
>>
>> Well, South Americans are just that, just as we are North Americans.
>> America is not a continent.
>>
>> But our country is called America.

> I thought it was called the United States of America.

Right, shortened to America. America is not short for "all the countries
in the two contents of South and North America."

Just as Mexico is called what it is, people don't go around
calling their people UMSians, right? But it is the United Mexican
States, no?

> Just as here
> we live in assorted parts of a country called either Great Britain or
> the United Kingdom, depending which bits you are including at the
> time.
>
> Despite many years online I have only recently seen this USAian
> thing; it looks clumsy to me.

I don't like it, and I don't answer to it. Heh.

nancy

kat

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Nancy Young said:
> kat wrote:
>> Nancy Young said:
>>> Mike........... wrote:
>>>> Following up to Andy
>>>>
>>>>> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!
>>>>
>>>> Its a confused term, I think many europeans see "american" as
>>>> disrespectful of south americans, but i never heard a south
>>>> american say that and as USian sounds daft I dont see a practical
>>>> change coming.
>>>
>>> Well, South Americans are just that, just as we are North Americans.
>>> America is not a continent.
>>>
>>> But our country is called America.
>
>> I thought it was called the United States of America.
>
> Right, shortened to America. America is not short for "all the
> countries in the two contents of South and North America."

I know, I was just clarifying.

>
> Just as Mexico is called what it is, people don't go around
> calling their people UMSians, right? But it is the United Mexican
> States, no?

Is it? I didn't know that.


>
>> Just as here
>> we live in assorted parts of a country called either Great Britain or
>> the United Kingdom, depending which bits you are including at the
>> time.
>>
>> Despite many years online I have only recently seen this USAian
>> thing; it looks clumsy to me.
>
> I don't like it, and I don't answer to it. Heh.
>

I can't say I blame you!


--
kat
>^..^<


Nancy Young

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kat wrote:
> Nancy Young said:
>> kat wrote:

>>> Despite many years online I have only recently seen this USAian
>>> thing; it looks clumsy to me.
>>
>> I don't like it, and I don't answer to it. Heh.
>>
>
> I can't say I blame you!

(laugh) You're very nice.

nancy

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Andy

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kat said...


> Despite many years online I have only recently seen this USAian thing;
> it looks clumsy to me.


USAian does look clumsy to read! And it's almost tongue twister.

Shit, even the terrorists call us Americans and you know they're NOT talking
about South America!!! You lucky BUMS!!!

Andy

Andy

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Mike........... said...

> yebbut, theres no other Mexico references in the Americas. All the other
> countries in the americas picked some other name.

Mexico is in North America! Look at a map:
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/camerica.htm

Andy

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blake murphy

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Oct 3, 2008, 12:07:00 PM10/3/08
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not something i would take umbrage at; i agree that it's infelicitous.

your pal,
blake

Dan Abel

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In article <1of5wkbgfiv06$.e4d7iwdt0ogk$.d...@40tude.net>,
"Mike..........." <mikemc...@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:

> Following up to Andy
>
> > We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!
>
> Its a confused term, I think many europeans see "american" as disrespectful
> of south americans

Not to mention Canada and Mexico. Are they not in the same America that
the US is in?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net

Dan Abel

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In article <lXnFk.14127$FP7....@newsfe27.ams2>,
"Nancy Young" <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:

> kat wrote:
> > Nancy Young said:
> >> Mike........... wrote:
> >>> Following up to Andy
> >>>
> >>>> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!
> >>>
> >>> Its a confused term, I think many europeans see "american" as
> >>> disrespectful of south americans, but i never heard a south american
> >>> say that and as USian sounds daft I dont see a practical change
> >>> coming.
> >>
> >> Well, South Americans are just that, just as we are North Americans.
> >> America is not a continent.
> >>
> >> But our country is called America.
>
> > I thought it was called the United States of America.
>
> Right, shortened to America. America is not short for "all the countries
> in the two contents of South and North America."


What about Central America?

Nancy Young

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Oct 3, 2008, 2:26:48 PM10/3/08
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Right, those countries have their names, too.

nancy

rosie

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Thank you , Andy, I feel the same way, I am an American.

Rosie

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Kathleen Hansen

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Oct 3, 2008, 2:44:53 PM10/3/08
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Mike........... wrote:
> Following up to Andy
>
>
>> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!
>
>
> Its a confused term, I think many europeans see "american" as
> disrespectful of south americans, but i never heard a south american
> say that and as USian sounds daft I dont see a practical change
> coming.

I've heard that argument before, that using the term "American" to
identify US citizens is somehow disrespectful to Canadians, Mexicans
(they're North Americans, too) and South Americans, and every single
time it was posited by a British national. Seriously, when was the last
time you ever heard a Canadian or a Mexican, let alone a south American
self-identify as an "American"?

Claiming there's anything derogatory to any one of any other western
hemisphere nationalities about reserving the term "Americans" for US
citizens is being pedantic at best.

I find the terms "USAsian" and "Merikan" (in all of its spellings)
offensive and disrespectful, deliberately so, in spite of coy protests
to the contrary by persons applying those appellations. Using either of
those terms is a great way to get off on the wrong foot with me.

If you want to refer to me by my nationality in a civilized
conversation, call me an American.

Pete Wilkins

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"Kathleen Hansen" <kh...@charter.net> wrote in message
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>
> I've heard that argument before, that using the term "American" to
> identify US citizens is somehow disrespectful to Canadians, Mexicans
> (they're North Americans, too) and South Americans, and every single
> time it was posited by a British national. Seriously, when was the last
> time you ever heard a Canadian or a Mexican, let alone a south American
> self-identify as an "American"?

Never ever heard it on my wide travels. It sounds like a PC thing to say and
we are overrun by users of PC language and PC think here in the UK.

> Claiming there's anything derogatory to any one of any other western
> hemisphere nationalities about reserving the term "Americans" for US
> citizens is being pedantic at best.
>
> I find the terms "USAsian" and "Merikan" (in all of its spellings)
> offensive and disrespectful, deliberately so, in spite of coy protests
> to the contrary by persons applying those appellations. Using either of
> those terms is a great way to get off on the wrong foot with me.

Though I'm not an American I also dislike both terms, especially the M*****
word. I often suspect some people use it just to demonstrate how good they are
at US bashing which seems a worlwide pastime in this day and age.

> If you want to refer to me by my nationality in a civilized
> conversation, call me an American.

While not truly offended by the word "Brit" often used to describe folks on
this side of the Pond, I also don't care for it either.

--
Pete


James Silverton

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I am an American. I have been known to use "US" as an adjective when
there might some ambiguity but I feel no compunction in using
"American". Practically any Canadian will use American to mean a citizen
of the USA, as will numerous Europeans damning the country for its
"misdeeds" :-)

Incidentally, have you ever looked at the British Chambers English
Dictionary under "America"? The name is ascribed to Richard Ameryk of
Bristol who financed some of Cabot's voyages :-) I don't think I am
really convinced but Ameryk was an importer of salt cod and probably had
heard rumors of Newfoundland before Columbus sailed.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Corey Richardson

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Oct 3, 2008, 8:16:10 PM10/3/08
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:07:49 +0100, "Mike demi spaniard............"
<mikemc...@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:

>Corey Richardson said
>
>>>because hes a troll who constantly xposts nonsense between these two
>>>groups.
>>
>> 1 I'm *not* a troll!
>
><yawn>

Oh dear :(

That from the person who alters his username all of the time :(


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George Shirley

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Oct 4, 2008, 10:18:19 AM10/4/08
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Mike........... wrote:
> Following up to Kathleen Hansen
>
>> Seriously, when was the last
>> time you ever heard a Canadian or a Mexican, let alone a south American
>> self-identify as an "American"?
>
> its something that only exists on usenet as far as I know, I did ask if any
> south americans get upset, i'm unclear what the answer was.
I worked in the Middle East with some Canadians and they always
identified themselves as "North Americans." Finally asked one why and he
said most Arabs thought everyone who spoke "American English" were
Americans and didn't even know where Canada was. I thought he was just
trying to pretend he was a real 'Murican. <G>

Mike

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"Giusi" <decob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Andy" <q> ha scritto nel messaggio > BTW, American is only four
> syllables, USAians is five syllables (USA-i-an).
>> American is THE convenient short term. Granted USAian is too commonly
>> used
>> and it IS too late to bring it up for further debate but it's not in my
>> vocabulary.
>>
>> Andy
>> American, not North American or USAian
>
> Be that as it may be, I know many other Americans who find it offensive,
> especially South Americans. I don't always, but sometimes say USian
> depending on the context.
>
If they feel they have to say USian..... Fuck em , there pussys.
I aint never,ever going to be that candy ass


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