Sorghum syrup: Where to find it?

[leno...@yahoo.com]

I just called Whole Foods...and they don't have it.

Got any other ideas? (I'm in the Boston area.)

I wanted it for a gingerbread recipe.


Lenona.

[Julie Bove]

<leno...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This indicates that it is the same thing as sorghum molasses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_sorghum

That should be available at any regular grocery store.

Perhaps your WF is just out of it? In looking it up, it appears from
countless sources that it is available there. Or perhaps the person you
spoke to on the phone didn't know what they were talking about. I have
given up calling stores unless they are small stores and I know that the
owner or clerk will give me the right answer. I have been told far too many
times that they don't carry something when in fact they do and it is right
there on the shelf.

[leno...@yahoo.com]

Well, that's good to know.

However, I called two other chains and they didn't have it either. At least
one had never heard of it. WF said they had sorghum flour but not syrup.


Lenona.

[cshenk]

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Correct Julie. We can sometimes find it under the old name here but
not often.

The only times I have had it, it wasn't store bought in any pure sense.
Judge Keller sold it from a local farmer before the food cops stopped
local little places from selling stuff like that. It was the excess
from a moonshiner (grin).

Carol

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[cshenk]

leno...@yahoo.com wrote in rec.food.cooking:

If it helps, you can get by fine with regular dark molassis. There is
a difference in flavor but not much. Sorghum is a little deeper
flavored but in this case, that can be a slight detraction.

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[notbob]

On 2015-01-02, leno...@yahoo.com <leno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I just called Whole Foods...and they don't have it.
>
> Got any other ideas? (I'm in the Boston area.)

I usta find sorghum in big half gal tins in roadside fruit stands,
when I still lived in CA. You might try a local farmer's market if
they have one in Boston, this time of yr. Otherwise, gotta look
online. Here's one:

http://www.newsomscountryham.com/sormol.html

nb

[Brooklyn1]

lenona321 wrote:
>
>I just called Whole Foods...and they don't have it.
>
>Got any other ideas? (I'm in the Boston area.)

Last I heard Amazon ships to Beantown.... Amazon sells several
brands/sizes.

[cshenk]

Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 12:01:33 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >>
> >> <leno...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1d81e187-2ccb-4853...@googlegroups.com...
> >>> I just called Whole Foods...and they don't have it.
> >>>
> >>> Got any other ideas? (I'm in the Boston area.)
> >>>
> >>> I wanted it for a gingerbread recipe.
> >>>
> >>> Lenona.
> >>
> >> This indicates that it is the same thing as sorghum molasses.
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_sorghum
> >>
> >> That should be available at any regular grocery store.
> >>
> >> Perhaps your WF is just out of it? In looking it up, it appears
> from >> countless sources that it is available there. Or perhaps the
> person >> you spoke to on the phone didn't know what they were
> talking about. >> I have given up calling stores unless they are
> small stores and I >> know that the owner or clerk will give me the
> right answer. I have >> been told far too many times that they don't
> carry something when in >> fact they do and it is right there on the
> shelf.
> >
> > Correct Julie. We can sometimes find it under the old name here but
> > not often.
>

> No, not correct. Molasses made from sugarcane should be available
> at some grocery stores But not Molasses made from sweet sorghum.
> They are different products, just like pomegranate molasses is
> different than default sugarcane (or beet) molasses.
>
> -sw
>

You need to read the ARTICLE. Sorgham sugar is sold in many names.
One of them is sorghum molasses. It is not the same nor was it said to
be the same as the regular beet or cane type. If it doesnt say sorghum
on it, it isn't and is the 'other stuff'.

Please bother to read the actual post first next time ok?



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[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
news:1r7a46rx...@sqwertz.com...

> On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 12:01:33 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>

>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> <leno...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1d81e187-2ccb-4853...@googlegroups.com...
>>>> I just called Whole Foods...and they don't have it.
>>>>
>>>> Got any other ideas? (I'm in the Boston area.)
>>>>
>>>> I wanted it for a gingerbread recipe.
>>>>
>>>> Lenona.
>>>
>>> This indicates that it is the same thing as sorghum molasses.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_sorghum
>>>
>>> That should be available at any regular grocery store.
>>>
>>> Perhaps your WF is just out of it? In looking it up, it appears from
>>> countless sources that it is available there. Or perhaps the person
>>> you spoke to on the phone didn't know what they were talking about.
>>> I have given up calling stores unless they are small stores and I
>>> know that the owner or clerk will give me the right answer. I have
>>> been told far too many times that they don't carry something when in
>>> fact they do and it is right there on the shelf.
>>
>> Correct Julie. We can sometimes find it under the old name here but
>> not often.
>

> No, not correct. Molasses made from *sugarcane* should be available

> at some grocery stores But not Molasses made from sweet sorghum.
> They are different products, just like pomegranate molasses is
> different than default sugarcane (or beet) molasses.
>

We also have sorghum molasses here. It is labeled as such.

[spamtr...@gmail.com]

On Friday, January 2, 2015 6:21:50 PM UTC-8, Sqwertz wrote:

> > You need to read the ARTICLE. Sorgham sugar is sold in many names.
> > One of them is sorghum molasses. It is not the same nor was it said to
> > be the same as the regular beet or cane type.
>

> That is exactly what Julie was implying: that since it has "molasses"
> in it's name, it must just be regular sugarcane molasses "That should
> be available at any regular grocery store.".

>
> > Please bother to read the actual post first next time ok?
>

> I did read and UNDERSTAND the post. You go back and read it you
> psycho bitch.
>

No, in Julie's world sorghum molasses is available at any grocery store.

[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message

news:qii3sf55...@sqwertz.com...

> On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:46:00 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>

>> You need to read the ARTICLE. Sorgham sugar is sold in many names.
>> One of them is sorghum molasses. It is not the same nor was it said to
>> be the same as the regular beet or cane type.
>

> That is exactly what Julie was implying: that since it has "molasses"

> in it's name, it must just be regular sugarcane molasses "That should
> be available at any regular grocery store.".

Uh no. I even put up a link. And it said sorghum molasses. I do know that
there are different kinds and I do know what I can buy here.

>
>> Please bother to read the actual post first next time ok?
>

> I did read and UNDERSTAND the post. You go back and read it you
> psycho bitch.

No clue who you're talking to but you're the one who doesn't seem to
understand.

[Julie Bove]

<spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, it's available here at the stores where I usually shop.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, January 2, 2015 10:48:07 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Well, it's available here at the stores where I usually shop.
>
>

Arrrggghhhhhh, I was going to look when I went to the grocery store this past week, but plumb forgot to check it out. I'm pretty sure what is on the shelf at my store is Brer Rabbit and a regional brand.

[Julie Bove]

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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We can get that here.

[Nancy2]

Anyone who wants to try sorghum and buys Brer Rabbit (molasses) will be very disappointed.
They are not at all the same in taste, molasses having a bitter component, and sorghum being
super sweet.

If anyone orders it from an online source, pick a jar that says just plain "sorghum," and you will
receive the real thing. "Sorghum syrup" might also be the real thing, but not ever trying anything
with that name, I don't know for sure.

N.

[l not -l]

On 2-Jan-2015, wrote:

> On Friday, January 2, 2015 10:48:07 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > Well, it's available here at the stores where I usually shop.
> >
> >
> Arrrggghhhhhh, I was going to look when I went to the grocery store this
> past week, but plumb forgot to check it out. I'm pretty sure what is on
> the shelf at my store is Brer Rabbit and a regional brand.

Sorghum, sometimes called syrup, other times molasses, is available in
several supermarkets I shop in a St. Louis suburb. Though I don't shop
them, I doubt sorghum would be available at Target or Wal-mart because it
would not sell in the high volumes those retailers prefer.

It is not always with the "pancake" syrups; sometimes it is with the
specialty brands, like Amish Wedding xxxxxx (applebutter, relish, etc).

--
Change Cujo to Juno for email.

[sf]

I checked my Safeway (which is the largest one in the general area)
yesterday. If they don't have it, no other Safeway will either and
they didn't have it. I checked by the maple syrup and in the baking
section (they stock molasses in both places). I'll check Lucky next,
not sure when I'll get there though - it's not a regular stop for me.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

[sf]

On Fri, 2 Jan 2015 15:00:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

> We also have sorghum molasses here. It is labeled as such.

You must have a lot of transplanted Southerners up there. I'd
probably be able to find it easily if I was closer to Sacramento or
LA. Now I'm wondering if Koko's grocery stores have it on the shelf.

[Cheri]

"Nancy2" <ellor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I order the Muddy Pond brand, pure sorghum no additives. Very good stuff.

Cheri

[sf]

On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 11:59:30 -0600, heyjoe <sam...@example.invalid>
wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 14:33:16 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>
> > Sorghum, sometimes called syrup, other times molasses,
>
>

> I thought molasses came from sugar cane (or sugar beets) and sorghum
> came from sorghum. To me, the two taste different, although are close
> substitutes for each other.

A thick syrup can be and is called molasses. If not defined by name,
reduced cane sugar syrup is what "molasses" commonly refers to. I
certainly wouldn't say "molasses" and expect the listener to know I
was talking about pomegranate molasses unless it was already part of
the conversation.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 1/3/2015 12:59 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 14:33:16 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>

>> Sorghum, sometimes called syrup, other times molasses,
>
>

> I thought molasses came from sugar cane (or sugar beets) and sorghum
> came from sorghum. To me, the two taste different, although are close
> substitutes for each other.
>

Please don't confuse the issue with facts.

Personally, I don't care for molasses very much but I do like the
lighter sorghum flavor.

[cshenk]

Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:46:00 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>

> > You need to read the ARTICLE. Sorgham sugar is sold in many names.
> > One of them is sorghum molasses. It is not the same nor was it
> > said to be the same as the regular beet or cane type.
>

> That is exactly what Julie was implying: that since it has "molasses"

> in it's name, it must just be regular sugarcane molasses "That should
> be available at any regular grocery store.".

>
> > Please bother to read the actual post first next time ok?
>

> I did read and UNDERSTAND the post. You go back and read it you
> psycho bitch.
>

> -sw

You did not read the link she added that stated it comes also under the
name of Sorghum Molasses. " This indicates that it is the same thing
as sorghum molasses." Note she is specific to *sorghum* molasses. Not
generic Molasses.

YOU are the only one to claim that which she did NOT say and
specifically her quoted link also is specific that it isnt the same.

Names you can call all you want, you are wrong this time. Julie gets
plenty of flak for being wrong (which she is often). Lets not make it
worse when she is *right* because you mis-read it.

The last refuge when you are flat out wrong apparently is to call me a
psycho bitch eh? Whatever.

--

[Dave Smith]

On 2015-01-03 3:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> Please don't confuse the issue with facts.
>
> Personally, I don't care for molasses very much but I do like the
> lighter sorghum flavor.

I can't imagine myself ever eating either of them straight. I don't
think I have ever had sorghum, but there are some things in which which
molasses adds a very important flavour. What would gingerbread anything
be without molasses?

[cshenk]

spamtr...@gmail.com wrote in rec.food.cooking:

She did not say that either. She only said it was an alternate name
that in some areas it may be sold under. Nothing more than that.

It's not a common product but I saw it here in Virginia Beach. It was
sold as Sorgum Syrup here. Next to the Molasses and Karo's.


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[cshenk]

I found it today (noted it only because of the thread). The particular
store (Harris Teeter) had it as sorghum syrup. Last few bottles on
sell out as a seasonal item.

I think they have it at Whole Foods and Trader Joes as well but not
sure if the syrup name or the molasses name there.

Technically there should be a difference in that the molasses one
should be further reduced/thicker but I wouldn't guarentee they keep it
that clearly defined.



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[cshenk]

Nancy2 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Hi Nancy, there is a difference in Surghum molasses and regular. The
discussion is only on the sorghum version. Now it seems Julie may be
confused but her initial answer was spot on.

Brer Rabbit is a sugarcane product, not a sorghum one.

Q: How is Brer Rabbit molasses made, and what are the ingredients?
A: Brer Rabbit molasses is made from of the finest quality, unsulfured
juice of sun-ripened sugarcane. After the sugarcane is cut and crushed,
the juices are extracted and boiled. The three grades of Brer Rabbit
molasses are created by the length of the boiling process – Mild
Flavor, Full Flavor and Blackstrap. The remaining juice from the
boiling process is placed into a high-speed crystallizer, spinning out
molasses while the sugar in the juice crystallizes. Click here for
Process.

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[cshenk]

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 2 Jan 2015 15:00:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> > We also have sorghum molasses here. It is labeled as such.
>
> You must have a lot of transplanted Southerners up there. I'd
> probably be able to find it easily if I was closer to Sacramento or
> LA. Now I'm wondering if Koko's grocery stores have it on the shelf.

Might be. Hard to tell.

With the outgrowth of it as a suitable ethaol production item that
takes less water, I gather some of the old dustbowl area is starting to
invest in it as a lucrative potential crop with the side advantage of
cattle feed after processing.

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[cshenk]

Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> > On Fri, 2 Jan 2015 15:00:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> >> We also have sorghum molasses here. It is labeled as such.
>

> And I think you're full of shit again. Take a picture of it on the
> shelves and post it. Then have somebody normal quote it for you since
> I have your pathetic ass killfiled.
>
> -sw

Here's the one I saw.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018GD1NI/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd
_p=1944687562&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0001AVRQK&pf
_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1PZA3J5JJVJP4GKPP3HW

Cheaper at Amazon.

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[cshenk]

l not -l wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Yup. At HT (local store chain, VA, NC and some other spots) it was
among the Karo's and such. Not a normal item I gather as they were
selling the last off. I didnt get any but it's because i don't cook
with such often and the few times i do, I have some canesugar versions
to use up first.



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[cshenk]

heyjoe wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 14:33:16 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>

> > Sorghum, sometimes called syrup, other times molasses,
>
>

> I thought molasses came from sugar cane (or sugar beets) and sorghum
> came from sorghum. To me, the two taste different, although are close
> substitutes for each other.

They do Joe, but Americans typically 'rename stuff' so sorghum can also
be called sorghum molasses in some areas, sorghum syrup in others.
Critical is if it is sorghum it will add that to the label.

Kinda like if a taco just says 'beef' you can be pretty sure the beef
is not filet mignon or T-bone. In this day of organics and all that,
adding sorghum would be a selling point for it. A hint of an older,
healthier eating style (even if it's not actually better for you,
people will *think* it is).

Carol

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[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, January 3, 2015 12:38:56 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

>
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2015 21:44:06 -0800 (PST), itsjoan...@webtv.net
> wrote:
>
> > Arrrggghhhhhh, I was going to look when I went to the grocery store
> > this past week, but plumb forgot to check it out. I'm pretty sure
> > what is on the shelf at my store is Brer Rabbit and a regional
> > brand.
>

> Brer Rabbit is SUGARCANE molasses, not sorghum molasses. Apparently
> this is hard concept for some people to grasp.
>
> -sw
>
>
I'm not saying it's not or that they are the same. I'm saying both will be available in stores here and will be sitting next to each other.

[Cheri]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message

news:g52goylezd75$.dlg@sqwertz.com...

>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2015 15:00:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We also have sorghum molasses here. It is labeled as such.
>

> And I think you're full of shit again. Take a picture of it on the
> shelves and post it. Then have somebody normal quote it for you since
> I have your pathetic ass killfiled.
>
> -sw

LOL, obviously not.

Cheri

[Janet Wilder]

There is a small restaurant chain (3 locations) that originated in
Sikeston, Missouri called 'Lamberts, the Home of the Throwed Roll'.
When you dine there, they, literally, throw the rolls to you. The staff
walks around with several side dishes, like okra and tomato and they
have sorghum syrup/molasses to sweeten your previously throwed roll.

http://www.throwedrolls.com/

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

[Janet Wilder]

Where I live, sorghum a/k/a milo, is a cash crop. Generally, every
other year it grows across the street from me as a rotation crop for
cotton.

I think the farmer is doing cotton again this year as I can see the
little things that look like soda bottles on a stick which are traps for
Boll Weevils that are monitored by the Texas Boll Weevil Commission.
A guy in a little white pickup comes by and counts the bugs.

[Julie Bove]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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Jinxy. I thought Brer Rabbit was sorghum but I just looked it up and
apparently not. I stand corrected.

[Julie Bove]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 2 Jan 2015 15:00:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>> We also have sorghum molasses here. It is labeled as such.
>
> You must have a lot of transplanted Southerners up there. I'd
> probably be able to find it easily if I was closer to Sacramento or
> LA. Now I'm wondering if Koko's grocery stores have it on the shelf.

Apparently I am wrong. I thought that the Brer Rabbit brand was sorghum and
it is not. I do recall seeing sorghum molasses in some store but I don't
know which one. I haven't actually bought any in some time.

[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
news:g52goylezd75$.dlg@sqwertz.com...

>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2015 15:00:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We also have sorghum molasses here. It is labeled as such.
>

> And I think you're full of shit again. Take a picture of it on the
> shelves and post it. Then have somebody normal quote it for you since
> I have your pathetic ass killfiled.

I did apologize. I thought that the Brer Rabbit brand was sorghum. It is
not. And I don't believe for an instant that you have me killfiled.

[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 2 Jan 2015 21:44:06 -0800 (PST), itsjoan...@webtv.net

> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, January 2, 2015 10:48:07 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, it's available here at the stores where I usually shop.
>>>
>>>

>> Arrrggghhhhhh, I was going to look when I went to the grocery store
>> this past week, but plumb forgot to check it out. I'm pretty sure
>> what is on the shelf at my store is Brer Rabbit and a regional
>> brand.
>
> Brer Rabbit is SUGARCANE molasses, not sorghum molasses. Apparently
> this is hard concept for some people to grasp.

You are correct. Now anyway. I could have sworn that I bought sorghum from
them, perhaps when I was a kid. I haven't brought that brand in many years.
I have organic molasses now. Have been buying that kind for a long time.

[Cheri]

"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
news:m8a71f$sn3$1...@dont-email.me...

Obviously not since he replied to your post. :-)

Cheri

[sf]

On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 17:48:57 -0600, Janet Wilder <not...@notreal.com>
wrote:

> Where I live, sorghum a/k/a milo, is a cash crop

I've heard of milo, but had no idea it was sorghum! Live & learn.

[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 14:54:45 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>

>>> And I think you're full of shit again. Take a picture of it on the
>>> shelves and post it. Then have somebody normal quote it for you since
>>> I have your pathetic ass killfiled.
>>

>> Here's the one I saw.
>>

>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...
>
> Yeah. You sure told ME, eh?
>
> I'm not asking you for shit. I asked Julie to post hers from a local
> Seattle grocery store.

Sorry, I don't go to Seattle grocery stores. My mistake was in thinking
that Brer Rabbit brand was sorghum. Worse still, I thought someone else
here posted that it was. It isn't.

[Miss Kitty]

On Friday, January 2, 2015 10:45:12 AM UTC-6, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just called Whole Foods...and they don't have it.
>
> Got any other ideas? (I'm in the Boston area.)
>
> I wanted it for a gingerbread recipe.
>
>
> Lenona.

What the hell is all this arguing about? It's sorghum syrup. It's in the store. Buy it! And if it's not available, there are substitutes! But we all have to twist in the wind according to the VerBovine's asinine attitude for the day. LOL

[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message

news:1lr13ywj5whfk$.dlg@sqwertz.com...

> On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 18:03:35 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>> news:g52goylezd75$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>>

>>> And I think you're full of shit again. Take a picture of it on the
>>> shelves and post it. Then have somebody normal quote it for you since
>>> I have your pathetic ass killfiled.
>>
>> I did apologize. I thought that the Brer Rabbit brand was sorghum. It
>> is
>> not. And I don't believe for an instant that you have me killfiled.
>

> I just took you out of the killfile for the last hour to see how you'd
> respond to this and I'm kicking myself in the head for doing so.

Ooh! Pic please! :):):) And I don't believe for an instant that you took
me out for an hour. I don't think I was ever in there.
>
> I've spent almost an hour reading your latest ridiculous posts when I
> haven't spent more than 10 minutes previous to this in the last 6
> months.
>
> You're bonkers. Anybody who thinks otherwise should stop reading your
> posts for a few weeks or months and then read an hour's worth of fresh
> diatribe. It's enough to turn everyone off of RFC for good. This is
> the first time I'm actually ashamed to be even be reading and posting
> to rec.food.cooking.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Whatever.

[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 17:48:57 -0600, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>> Where I live, sorghum a/k/a milo, is a cash crop. Generally, every
>> other year it grows across the street from me as a rotation crop for
>> cotton.
>

> Sorghum stalks are now used as super-hip (and expensive) interior
> decorating for cabinetry and flooring. The pattern/colors of sorghum
> stalks are quite unique. You have to laminate the hell out of the
> stuff, but the end result looks really good.
>
> http://www.soa.utexas.edu/matlab/search/materials/details/t/item/id/11834
>
> I did a fancy bathroom/anteroom as wainscotting in this stuff and
> charged $23K just for the materials.

And you can pop the seeds!

[Janet]

In article <m8a7j...@news3.newsguy.com>, che...@newsguy.com says...

DUH. KF doesn't prevent other posters requoting whoever you killfiled,
so you may see the KF poster repeated by a third party.

The quotation indents in Swertz's post prove that's what happened, he
was requoting a requote.

Janet UK

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
news:2raiaa11og7mbe6m5...@4ax.com...

> Thank you, you may sit down.

;-)

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

[Nancy2]

Schnell, I don't know that I would ever cook with sorghum. It is best used as an alternate
to maple syrup poured on French toast, pancakes, waffles, etc., IMO.

N.

[sf]

On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 00:50:37 -0800, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> news:1lr13ywj5whfk$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
> > On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 18:03:35 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> >> news:g52goylezd75$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
> >>
> >

> > I've spent almost an hour reading your latest ridiculous posts when I
> > haven't spent more than 10 minutes previous to this in the last 6
> > months.
> >
> > You're bonkers. Anybody who thinks otherwise should stop reading your
> > posts for a few weeks or months and then read an hour's worth of fresh
> > diatribe. It's enough to turn everyone off of RFC for good. This is
> > the first time I'm actually ashamed to be even be reading and posting
> > to rec.food.cooking.
>
> Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Whatever.

He spent an HOUR reading your posts? Obviously, he can't help
himself.

[sf]

Aha! The mysteries of sorghum are slowly unraveling. I had
absolutely no idea that's how it's used! When someone mentioned
combining it with butter the other day, that was new too. I always
thought it was a mild cane sugar molasses replacement... milder than
unsulphured molasses but a decent replacement.

[sf]

No, it's NOT in the store. I checked mine in two places.

[Brooklyn1]

Janet.uk wrote:
>cherig3 says...
>>Julie Bove wrote
>> >Sqwertz wrote:

>> >>>Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> We also have sorghum molasses here. It is labeled as such.
>> >>
>> >> And I think you're full of shit again. Take a picture of it on the
>> >> shelves and post it. Then have somebody normal quote it for you since
>> >> I have your pathetic ass killfiled.
>> >
>> > I did apologize. I thought that the Brer Rabbit brand was sorghum. It is
>> > not. And I don't believe for an instant that you have me killfiled.
>>
>> Obviously not since he replied to your post. :-)
>>
>> Cheri
>
> DUH. KF doesn't prevent other posters requoting whoever you killfiled,
>so you may see the KF poster repeated by a third party.
>
>The quotation indents in Swertz's post prove that's what happened, he
>was requoting a requote.
>
> Janet UK

Actually the indents prove nothing... when someone annoys one enough
to killfile them then it's dumb as a keg of nails to reply to any of
their posts regardless they are quoted... just showcases ones
imbecilic tendency... indicates the killfiled is the winner and the
killfiler is the loser. It's very easy for the loser to not killfile,
read all the killfileds posts but constantly remain on the alert for
the winner's quoted posts and ignoranously use that as an alibi for
responding... how dumb are those killfiling moroons... much dumber
than a keg of nails.

[Brooklyn1]

Bruce wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:56:58 -0000, Janet <h...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
>

>Thank you, you may sit down.

Thank you for proving you're an idiot... all that does is show that
the poster is weak minded for not totally ignoring someone's posts
they've *claimed* to have killfiled... reading and replying to the
quoted posts proves those idiots are weak minded assholes who haven't
killfiled that poster.

[Brooklyn1]

On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 02:04:34 -0600, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 18:03:35 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>> news:g52goylezd75$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>>

>>> And I think you're full of shit again. Take a picture of it on the
>>> shelves and post it. Then have somebody normal quote it for you since
>>> I have your pathetic ass killfiled.
>>
>> I did apologize. I thought that the Brer Rabbit brand was sorghum. It is
>> not. And I don't believe for an instant that you have me killfiled.
>

>I just took you out of the killfile for the last hour.
>-sw

What a lame alibi that is... you Pinocchio nosed bag of bubkas... no
sane thinking person believes you... you don't have Julie killfilled,
never have, you're her biggest fan... and like the yentering dwarf
crone you are you're ascared to miss one utterance the Bove posts.
Busy Body is the default personality of ALL Face Boogers... just a
club for Nosey Parkers, its sole purpose is to pry into each others
business and out boast each other's BS... and NONE are any more honest
than you... Sock Puppet Spy.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nosey%20parker

[Brooklyn1]

Julie Bove" wrote:
>
>Sorry, I don't go to Seattle grocery stores. My mistake was in thinking
>that Brer Rabbit brand was sorghum.

Doesn't much matter... used in recipes no one can taste the difference
between similar strength cane molasses and sorghum molasses.
http://www.brerrabbit.com/molasses-products/
http://www.herculesengines.com/sorghum/

[Janet Wilder]

On 1/3/2015 10:22 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 17:48:57 -0600, Janet Wilder <not...@notreal.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Where I live, sorghum a/k/a milo, is a cash crop
>
> I've heard of milo, but had no idea it was sorghum! Live & learn.
>

I'm a "treasure trove" of useless information :-)

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

[Janet Wilder]

On 1/4/2015 2:25 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 17:48:57 -0600, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>> Where I live, sorghum a/k/a milo, is a cash crop. Generally, every
>> other year it grows across the street from me as a rotation crop for
>> cotton.
>
> Sorghum stalks are now used as super-hip (and expensive) interior
> decorating for cabinetry and flooring. The pattern/colors of sorghum
> stalks are quite unique. You have to laminate the hell out of the
> stuff, but the end result looks really good.
>
> http://www.soa.utexas.edu/matlab/search/materials/details/t/item/id/11834
>
> I did a fancy bathroom/anteroom as wainscotting in this stuff and
> charged $23K just for the materials.
>

> -sw
>

Wow! I could just go up the road and pick some.

[Julie Bove]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:oqpiaah70458hvr6c...@4ax.com...

No clue but he and some others here clearly have problems.

[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message

news:15bd0vjow67h0$.dlg@sqwertz.com...

> On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:00:28 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> What a lame alibi that is... you Pinocchio nosed bag of bubkas... no
>> sane thinking person believes you...
>

> <yawn> Perhaps you can show me one post in the last 5 months where
> I've responded to Julie (previous to last night).
>
> Here's your chance to prove I was lying. Go ahead. Find a post...
>
> -sw

Oh you have and many times. But I have better things to do than go look it
up.

[sf]

I've seen him reply quite a few times recently and I have him kill
filed so someone else quoted him. He's obviously back on mood
enhanseners. He made it obvious with his $20,000 bathroom post.

[Moe DeLoughan]

On 1/2/2015 10:45 AM, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just called Whole Foods...and they don't have it.
>
> Got any other ideas? (I'm in the Boston area.)
>
> I wanted it for a gingerbread recipe.
>

Sounds like something Cracker Barrel would sell in their gift shop, if
there's one in your area.

I'd also check local food co-ops or health food stores.

[col...@gmail.com]

I tried the brer rabbit molasses with butter mashed into it with toast, it's a little strong and as black as tar. I think each time I eat it it will be better tho.

[Christopher Helms]

On Friday, January 2, 2015 10:45:12 AM UTC-6, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just called Whole Foods...and they don't have it.
>
> Got any other ideas? (I'm in the Boston area.)
>
> I wanted it for a gingerbread recipe.
>
>

> Lenona.

I buy Golden Barrel Sorghum Syrup on Amazon. It tastes like a cross between dark honey and molasses. Great stuff on homemade bread. I don't know of any big chain grocery stores that bother to carry it under any name.

[sf]

On Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:15:23 -0800 (PST), col...@gmail.com wrote:

> I tried the brer rabbit molasses with butter mashed into it with toast, it's a little strong and as black as tar. I think each time I eat it it will be better tho.

Maybe a little more butter this time and a little less molasses next
time? I'm also wondering how dark Karo syrup would be?

Actually, I've never made honey butter so I'll try that first. :)

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

[sf]

On Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:49:03 -0800 (PST), Christopher Helms
<chris...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, January 2, 2015 10:45:12 AM UTC-6, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I just called Whole Foods...and they don't have it.
> >
> > Got any other ideas? (I'm in the Boston area.)
> >
> > I wanted it for a gingerbread recipe.
> >
> >
> > Lenona.
>
> I buy Golden Barrel Sorghum Syrup on Amazon.

I know you're being helpful, but most people know they can buy it on
Amazon. They're looking for it locally before they resort to that.

> It tastes like a cross between dark honey and molasses. Great
> stuff on homemade bread.

Oh, man it sounds delicious! I may resort to Amazon. :)

> I don't know of any big chain grocery
> stores that bother to carry it under any name.

What area are you in? I have gotten the idea that it's stocked in
"the South", which includes South Texas.

[Dave Smith]

On 2015-01-05 20:53, sf wrote:

> Maybe a little more butter this time and a little less molasses next
> time? I'm also wondering how dark Karo syrup would be?
>
> Actually, I've never made honey butter so I'll try that first. :)
>

We used to buy honey butter once in a while. I have not seen it in any
stores in years.

[sf]

I thought it was just something people make, so you're a step ahead of
me because I've never seen it sold. Not that I've ever looked for it.
What section of the grocery store did you find it in (if you
remember)? I've never seen truffle butter either. I thought that's
what people make by combining truffle oil with butter.

[Julie Bove]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message

news:eltmaalepqgjp42jt...@4ax.com...

I know it was sold when I was a kid. My brother loved the stuff. I never
liked it but I did make it a few times.

[l not -l]

Still available in the dairy case (unsurprisingly near the butter) in many
supermarkets here. Generally only one brand, most often Downey's,
occasionally Land o Lakes. A few stores carry both honey butter and
cinnamon honey butter.

But, that's here (St Louis suburb); we seem to have many items others report
as not being available or having never seen.

No honey butter in my pantry; I guess I'll mix together some butter and
sorghum to spread on my biscuits this morning.

--
Change Cujo to Juno for email.

[Brooklyn1]

I always have a large jar of local honey in my pantry and plenty of
butter in my fridge/freezer... it's no biggie to spread butter and
then drizzle honey... when you buy honey butter already blended it's
mystery mix. I have lots of cinnamon too but I don't like cinnamon to
pollute my nice local honey anymore than I'd want cinnamon to pollute
real maple syrup... if I feel like sweet cinnamon I'll have it with
white or brown sugar, or on Aunt Jemima.

[col...@gmail.com]

I put cinnamon in oatmeal to keep my blood sugar down. I take cinnamon caps after some carby meals.

[Nunya Bidnits]

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
news:nk0jaa9p119k4591h...@4ax.com...

>What a lame alibi that is... you Pinocchio nosed bag of bubkas... no
>sane thinking person believes you... you don't have Julie killfilled,
>never have, you're her biggest fan...

Boy, isn't that the truth. How does he manage to know who to squeeze out his
little rat turds at if they are killfiled? LOLOL! He has bragged about
having every post archived for the last bazillion years, so he can dig out
the pettiest obscure crap from any past post instantly. Obviously he's lying
about killfiles.

Only a kook archives decades of a Usenet group just so they can dig up
obscure shit on demand years later for dubious reference in obtuse
desperation arguments.

No one person is more responsible for the degeneration of this group into
the land of inbred Julie-stupidity and gratuitous hostility than Sqwerly.
Thanks to him and some other time wasters, loudmouths and kooks, this group
has become all but unreadable to anyone interested in cooking content.

===> flips a digit at Little Miss Can't Be Wrong who is really Julie's
secret lover. Oh hell. Really? Did I just say that? Crap on a capsicum. Now
I gotta go bleach my brain.

-mb

[Nunya Bidnits]

"Sqwertz" wrote in message news:1ft1qx5o...@sqwertz.com...

On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:01:10 -0600, Nunya Bidnits wrote:

> No one person is more responsible for the degeneration of this group into
> the land of inbred Julie-stupidity and gratuitous hostility than Sqwerly.
> Thanks to him and some other time wasters, loudmouths and kooks, this
> group
> has become all but unreadable to anyone interested in cooking content.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahh!!!

What are you going to do for an encore, apologize to all of us and
tell us your doctor has adjusted your medication?

-sw

As usual, the truth about yourself always engenders the same predictable
stupid response... a lame attempt to impugn the sanity of those who are not
fooled by your pathetic drive for hatred and disrespect. Try a different
shtick for once, silly bitch.

Nutjobs like you commonly accuse others of whatever they hate most about
themselves. You're no exception.

Now that you're all inflamed, don't you need to go stalk Julie while you're
in full form? Come on, puss. You KNOW you wanna.

[Christopher Helms]

Indiana. It's just not available around here. Closest thing around here is Alaga syrup, which is really just corn syrup with a touch of molasses added to make it light brown.

[col...@gmail.com]

Dark Karo syrup is corn syrup.

[Ultimate Recipes]

Hello Leona,

I grow Orange sorghum plants in S Cal, If your looking for Sorghum you may be able to find it listed as "molasses", It is basically the same thing..

Cheers

[Janet Wilder]

How can it be the same thing? Molasses comes from sugar cane and
sorghum from milo. they are very different plants. I know because they
grow both in my neighborhood.

[Nancy2]

Dear California Cheers, sorghum and molasses are completely different foods, although I
suppose one can be substituted for the other in some recipes...people have said that, but
I always have both on hand, and would never, for example, put molasses on waffles or
pancakes, which is what I do with sorghum. Molasses is distinctly bitter in comparison.

N.

[col...@gmail.com]

I think Brer Rabbit mild molasses would be fine.

[Nancy2]

Col, yes, maybe in a recipe...but like I said, used in place of syrup on pancakes or waffles,
which is why I have sorghum in the cupboard, any kind of molasses wouldn't be the same at all.

N.

[leno...@yahoo.com]

A gloomy update...I asked Whole Foods if they could order it for me. They
checked and said sorry, no, but that it would likely be available at their
outlets in southern states.


Lenona.

[Dave Smith]

That's peculiar. If they are a franchise they have the contacts and the
facilities. They carry it in the chain so they should be able to order
it in your local store.

People complain about our government owned liquor stores, but they are
very good about ordering products. They have a list of liquors, wines
and beers that they carry. If it is not available in the local store
they will order it. Thanks to the modern marvels called computers, they
can tell you if it is in stock and tell you how many bottles are in
stock at nearby stores that you can go to and pick them up, or, if it is
in the warehouse they will order it for you. IN our local store, if you
order by before closing time Tuesday it will be delivered Friday afternoon.

Not much of a digression. That is a government run store. If they can do
it a private business can because they are cheaper, more efficient and
customer oriented.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 5:17:04 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2015-01-21 6:08 PM, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > A gloomy update...I asked Whole Foods if they could order it for me. They
> > checked and said sorry, no, but that it would likely be available at their
> > outlets in southern states.
> >
>
> That's peculiar. If they are a franchise they have the contacts and the
> facilities. They carry it in the chain so they should be able to order
> it in your local store.
>
>

I can see their reluctance to order it for her. Most likely it comes 24 bottles to a case and she's only wanting one bottle. They must never have another request for sorghum syrup so they're stuck with 23 bottles.

[Jean B.]

I don't know where you are or whether you have a Wegman's in the
vicinity, but I just saw sorghum syrup at a new Wegman's in Boston's
western 'burbs. This is not exactly sorghum territory, so I am thinking
that a lot of their stores must stock it. The syrup was in a natural
foods area, but let me hastily add that the products are arranged in a
very odd fashion, with bits and pieces of the same type of thing in a
lot of different places.

[Doug Weller]

On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 05:33:51 -0800 (PST), in rec.food.cooking, Nancy2
wrote:

>Schnell, I don't know that I would ever cook with sorghum. It is best used as an alternate
>to maple syrup poured on French toast, pancakes, waffles, etc., IMO.
>
>N.
I had some yesterday on blue cornmeal pancakes. Delicious. I was able to
get it from eBay
Doug
--
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Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/

[col...@gmail.com]

Depending on what you're using it for I think dark Karo is the way to go.

[leno...@yahoo.com]

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 9:42:04 PM UTC-5, Jean B. wrote:

> I don't know where you are or whether you have a Wegman's in the
> vicinity, but I just saw sorghum syrup at a new Wegman's in Boston's
> western 'burbs. This is not exactly sorghum territory, so I am thinking
> that a lot of their stores must stock it. The syrup was in a natural
> foods area, but let me hastily add that the products are arranged in a
> very odd fashion, with bits and pieces of the same type of thing in a
> lot of different places.

Thank you, I will check.