Re: Seven Seas Salad Dressing

[Nancy Young]

On 5/21/2016 1:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I was wondering what happened to this brand - was especially what
> happened to the creamy Italian circa the 1970's. Looks like they were
> bought by Kraft and several fairly recent photos show the Kraft
> bottles displaying the "Seven Seas" sub-brand on the label, but that's
> not how they look here. The "Seven Seas" does not appear on the Green
> Goddess, Viva Italian, or the Red Wine Vinaigrette as they show in
> thepictures. They are pure Kraft products without the sub-branding.

Seven Seas seemed to disappear for a while, then it was back but it
was clearly not the same. Theirs was the Viva/Zesty Italian that I
like on tomato cucumber salad. The dressing was separated in the
bottle, with the solid ingredients at the bottom, you had to shake
it.

Instead of the ingredients being weirdly suspended in a gel-looking
substance.

> (Yes, I know there is a concept of making ones own dressings from
> scratch)

Zesty Italian just isn't the same made from scratch.

nancy

[Nancy2]

I think I have Hidden Valley Zesty Italian.....if so, I really like it, and there
isn't any gel about it. I'll have to look.

N.

[Julie Bove]

"Nancy Young" <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:kM30z.1003410$8r2.4...@fx46.am4...

I make a pasta salad and the original recipe says to use Wishbone Italian
dressing and no other. I was told that it wouldn't taste the same with
other dressing. And it didn't. Just wasn't nearly as good.

But then they changed the Wishbone and now it's no good. So... When I make
it, I use either some cheap stuff from Dollar Tree or I make my own. Still
not the same but pretty good.

[Nancy Young]

On 5/21/2016 8:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote

>> Seven Seas seemed to disappear for a while, then it was back but it
>> was clearly not the same. Theirs was the Viva/Zesty Italian that I
>> like on tomato cucumber salad. The dressing was separated in the
>> bottle, with the solid ingredients at the bottom, you had to shake
>> it.

> I make a pasta salad and the original recipe says to use Wishbone
> Italian dressing and no other.

I get that, Wishbone was a good brand, too, at least as far as
the zesty italian went.

> But then they changed the Wishbone and now it's no good. So... When I
> make it, I use either some cheap stuff from Dollar Tree or I make my
> own. Still not the same but pretty good.

I thought to try the salad dressing that came in an envelope,
what the heck is the name. Good Seasons. I thought it might have
all the dried pepper bits and herbs, etc., and I could just add my
own oil and vinegar. Perhaps I will try that.

I have found a recipe that looks promising.

http://www.ibelieveicanfry.com/2013/02/zesty-italian-dressing-mix.html

nancy

[Nancy Young]

On 5/21/2016 7:56 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> I think I have Hidden Valley Zesty Italian.....if so, I really like it, and there
> isn't any gel about it. I'll have to look.

Thanks, I'll check for that. I don't actually use a lot of salad
dressing so I never would have thought to check that brand for
other than creamy dressing recipes.

nancy

[sf]

I thought the house dressing I get at a certain restaurant was head
and shoulders above what I make at home. A lemon, honey and olive oil
vinaigrette is close - but it isn't "right". Hubby ordered had it on
the side the other day and I took the leftovers home. Finally tried
it in the light of day without anything else clouding my palette and
definitely detected anchovy, so that's the secret. Haven't added
anchovy (I have a tube) to my own dressing yet, so I haven't tested my
hypothesis.

--

sf

[Julie Bove]

"Nancy Young" <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:By70z.1038783$UJ.7...@fx42.am4...

There is something in the dried that I can't have but I can't remember what.

[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
news:9lkgvc59...@sqwertz.com...

> I buy the Hidden Valley/Good Seasons Italian packets for about $1
> each. They work better than any bottled dressing. I mix the packets
> with most of the oil then add mayo to make them creamy.
>
> I'd still rather have Seven Seas Creamy Italian. The Pizza Hut salad
> bars in the 70's and 80's also used the same dressing.

I was just talking to Angela about those salad bars earlier. Loved them!

[jmcquown]

On 5/21/2016 9:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> I thought to try the salad dressing that came in an envelope,
> what the heck is the name. Good Seasons. I thought it might have
> all the dried pepper bits and herbs, etc., and I could just add my
> own oil and vinegar. Perhaps I will try that.

Ah yes! Initially it came with it's own measure/shaker carafe/bottle to
mix it in. I think I still have an envelope of Good Seasons Italian
dressing mix in the pantry. The bottle for shaking it is long gone).
Even though I don't care for salad it was my "job" to prepare the salad
and the Good Seasons dressing when I was a kid. :)

Jill

[col...@gmail.com]

I like Marzetti Italian fine.

[Nancy Young]

It would be so nice if you could duplicate that. Sounds delicious.

nancy

[sf]

On Sun, 22 May 2016 08:23:24 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I used to buy Good Seasons Italian by the box (4 packages, I think),
but then I started making my own and haven't looked back.

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sf

[Sqwertz]

On 5/21/2016 11:24 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> (Yes, I know there is a concept of making ones own dressings from
> scratch)
>

> -sw
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
> "OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
> Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
> entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
> baby carrots".
>
> -sw
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
> I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.
>
> -sw
>
> You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
> written down the once you realized you liked it.
>
> -sw
>
> Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
> spite.
>
> -sw
>
> Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.
>
> [High Five]
>
> -sw
>
> Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.
>
> -sw
>
> You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.
>
> -sw
>
> You tell him Julie!
>
> <snort>
>
> -sw
>
> That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
> couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
> how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
> explain why the proposed solution won't work.
>
> Same 'ol song and dance.
>
> -sw
>
> <snip rest unread>
>
> -sw
>
> So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
> years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
> have been your direct experience with the New York public school
> system in the early 2000's?
>
> -sw
>
> What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
> amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
> world.
>
> -sw
>
>
> Again, only in YOUR house.
>
> -sw

[Sqwertz]

On 5/22/2016 2:05 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> The Pizza Hut salad
> bars in the 70's and 80's also used the same dressing.
>

[Nancy2]

Ah, Nancy, it is Wishbone, not Hidden Valley. I really liked the "Just 2 Good,"
lo-cal ones, too.

N.

[jmcquown]

I'm sure you did. I did mention I was a kid and this is what my mother
bought. I don't care for salad. It was a kiddie chore. :)

I have used different types of bottled dressings as marinades over the
years but mostly make my own.

Jill

[Nancy Young]

On 5/22/2016 6:14 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Ah, Nancy, it is Wishbone, not Hidden Valley.

Okay, thanks!

> I really liked the "Just 2 Good," lo-cal ones, too.

I'll keep an eye out for it, thank you.

nancy

[Leonard Blaisdell]

In article <2xh0z.523$Yx5...@fx04.iad>, jmcquown

<j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Ah yes! Initially it came with it's own measure/shaker carafe/bottle to
> mix it in. I think I still have an envelope of Good Seasons Italian
> dressing mix in the pantry. The bottle for shaking it is long gone).
> Even though I don't care for salad it was my "job" to prepare the salad
> and the Good Seasons dressing when I was a kid. :)

About ten years ago, Good Seasons sold a package of four or five
packets of Italian seasoning with a "free" capped carafe. It shows a
line for water, for vinegar and for oil, just like the old one. I have
it along with a Tupperware dispenser that works perfectly with HVR dry
mix. I use the HVR buttermilk packet.
While looking for the GS dispenser, I found the HVR dispenser which I
forgot I had. So again, Thanks RFC!
I really do make dressings on my own. Especially Italian. Ranch, not so
much.

leo

[Cindy Hamilton]

I really like the Joy of Cooking ranch dressing recipe, although I usually
simplify it to garlic and herbs in buttermilk. I prefer a thinner dressing,
which coats the salad while using much less dressing. It allows the taste
of the vegetables through much better, IMO.

1 clove garlic
3/4 cup buttermilk
2-3 tablespoons lime juice
1 tablespoon minced cilantro or parsley
1 tablespoon minced chives
salt and pepper
1/3 to 1/2 cup of mayonnaise or sour cream if you prefer a thicker dressing

I generally buy a pint of buttermilk, open the bottle and cram
a scaled amount of these ingredients into the bottle. I often
omit the lime juice and use both cilantro and parsley.


That said, I sometimes just mix Hidden Valley powder into yogurt
as a dip for crudités when I want some veg but don't feel like making
a salad.

Cindy Hamilton

[dejamos]

Ranch dressing is easy to make, and in my opinion tastes so much better
than any of the store-bought brands, even HVR:

1/2 cup homemade mayonnaise
1 cup buttermilk
1 teaspoon lemon juice
1/8 teaspoon paprika
1/4 teaspoon ground mustard
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon black pepper
1 heaping tablespoon fresh finely chopped parsley
1 heaping teaspoon fresh finely chopped chives
1 heaping teaspoon fresh finely chopped dill

Stir the mayonnaise and buttermilk together and then add the rest of the
ingredients.

[notbob]

On 2016-05-24, dejamos <dej...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Ranch dressing is easy to make, and in my opinion tastes so much better
> than any of the store-bought brands, even HVR:
>
> 1/2 cup homemade mayonnaise
> 1 cup buttermilk
> 1 teaspoon lemon juice
> 1/8 teaspoon paprika
> 1/4 teaspoon ground mustard
> 1/2 teaspoon salt
> 1/4 teaspoon black pepper
> 1 heaping tablespoon fresh finely chopped parsley
> 1 heaping teaspoon fresh finely chopped chives
> 1 heaping teaspoon fresh finely chopped dill
>
> Stir the mayonnaise and buttermilk together and then add the rest of the
> ingredients.

Thanks fer the recipe. No doubt many, here, will apprecieate it.

Personally, I despise ranch dressing. It's one of the very few foods I
refuse to ingest. I specially hate restaurants that put blue cheese
chunks in ranch dressing and pass it off as blue cheese dressing.

As for the posted subject, I usta use Seven Seas Balsamic. This was
many yrs ago. I know the balsamic part was more-than-likely jes a
chemical blend, but they did it well.

nb

[Sqwertz]

On 5/23/2016 9:32 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You can also use a white
> wine vinegar instead of the plain white it calls for.
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[sf]

On Tue, 24 May 2016 03:25:44 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I prefer a thinner dressing,
> which coats the salad while using much less dressing. It allows the taste
> of the vegetables through much better, IMO.
>
> 1 clove garlic
> 3/4 cup buttermilk
> 2-3 tablespoons lime juice
> 1 tablespoon minced cilantro or parsley
> 1 tablespoon minced chives
> salt and pepper
> 1/3 to 1/2 cup of mayonnaise or sour cream if you prefer a thicker dressing
>
> I generally buy a pint of buttermilk, open the bottle and cram
> a scaled amount of these ingredients into the bottle. I often
> omit the lime juice and use both cilantro and parsley.
>
>
> That said, I sometimes just mix Hidden Valley powder into yogurt
> as a dip for crudités when I want some veg but don't feel like making
> a salad.

How long does it keep - or do you just whip up enough for one time?

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sf

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm not sure how long it keeps. I'm pretty indifferent to that sort
of food safety. (I'll go 7 days on meat that I've cooked.) Certainly
I've used it for a week or two; the "best by" date on the buttermilk is
often a month out when I buy it.

Cindy Hamilton

[sf]

On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:45:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

Thanks.

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sf

[deetz...@gmail.com]

All my life I grew up with the "Italian Dressing" packets and the carafe. All you did was add oil & vinegar.
The longer it sat the better!!!!!! I never feared eating it if it was in the fridge for months.

The problem is I cannot remember if it is "7 Seas" or "Good Seasons". The problem is that big companies buy/acquire companies and I can't remember the correct dry packet/carafe brand that we used for YEARS!!! thx

[jmcquown]

On 4/23/2018 12:00 PM, l not -l wrote:

> Good Seasons
>
Yep, this one:

https://s14.postimg.cc/gvgvo4dlt/goodseasons.jpg

It's one of those odd things I found in the pantry after my mother died.
I couldn't bring myself to throw it or the carafe away.

Jill

[Alex]

Time to dust off your vacuum...

[jmcquown]

On 4/25/2018 12:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:59:17 -0400, Alex wrote:

>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> https://s14.postimg.cc/gvgvo4dlt/goodseasons.jpg
>>>
>>> It's one of those odd things I found in the pantry after my mother
>>> died. I couldn't bring myself to throw it or the carafe away.
>>

>> Time to dust off your vacuum...
>

> I see a cat's tail, but not the rest of the cat. I think the cat must
> have exploded and that's what we're seeing all over the floor.
>
> -sw
>
The cat was nowhere in sight. Tons of cat toys on the floor, though. :)

Jill

[Alex]

Time for new carpeting then...

[Alex]

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:59:17 -0400, Alex wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>

>>> https://s14.postimg.cc/gvgvo4dlt/goodseasons.jpg
>>>
>>> It's one of those odd things I found in the pantry after my mother
>>> died. I couldn't bring myself to throw it or the carafe away.

>> Time to dust off your vacuum...

> I see a cat's tail, but not the rest of the cat. I think the cat must
> have exploded and that's what we're seeing all over the floor.
>
> -sw

True. More than cat toys on that filthy carpet.

[Gary]

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> That sure looks exactly like a cat's tail coming out the lid to the
> salad cruet. I see now that's its probably the leg to an
> old-fashioned coffee table.
>
> I'm glad the cat didn't blow up.

The cat was probably in the kitchen where Jill forbids
it to be. She thinks she won.
Unknown to her, every time her back is turned, that cat
will be in the forbidden zone.
Cat owns that house, not Jill.

Mr.Kitty here well knew his limits and what I didn't allow.
Didn't stop him at all. Soon as I went to work or even
into a different room, he went where no Gary allows.

A most annoying but beloved kitty and even he's dead now.

[jmcquown]

On 4/27/2018 1:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:27:12 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 4/25/2018 12:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:59:17 -0400, Alex wrote:
>>>
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://s14.postimg.cc/gvgvo4dlt/goodseasons.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> It's one of those odd things I found in the pantry after my mother
>>>>> died. I couldn't bring myself to throw it or the carafe away.
>>>>
>>>> Time to dust off your vacuum...
>>>
>>> I see a cat's tail, but not the rest of the cat. I think the cat must
>>> have exploded and that's what we're seeing all over the floor.
>>>

>> The cat was nowhere in sight. Tons of cat toys on the floor, though. :)
>

> That sure looks exactly like a cat's tail coming out the lid to the
> salad cruet. I see now that's its probably the leg to an
> old-fashioned coffee table.
>

That's exactly what that is, one of the legs on what was my
grandmother's leather-topped coffee table.

> I'm glad the cat didn't blow up.
>

Naw... she's fat but hasn't exploded yet. :)

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 4/27/2018 1:47 PM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> That sure looks exactly like a cat's tail coming out the lid to the
>> salad cruet. I see now that's its probably the leg to an
>> old-fashioned coffee table.
>>
>> I'm glad the cat didn't blow up.
>
> The cat was probably in the kitchen where Jill forbids
> it to be. She thinks she won.
> Unknown to her, every time her back is turned, that cat
> will be in the forbidden zone.
> Cat owns that house, not Jill.
>

I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about but you don't.
You probably assume I feed her in the kitchen. Nope. The kitchen is
not laid out in a way that offers any good place to set her food and
water bowls. She's fed in the bedroom. Her *dry* food is in an
airtight bin in the master bathroom closet. She sometimes wanders into
the kitchen when I'm dishing up her *canned* food in the morning. (I
store that in the pantry and refrigerate the open can). But she usually
just sits by the doorway and meows at me to hurry up and bring the bowl
to the bedroom.

If I was really concerned about her getting up to something in the
kitchen when I'm not around I'd just close the door.

> Mr.Kitty here well knew his limits and what I didn't allow.
> Didn't stop him at all. Soon as I went to work or even
> into a different room, he went where no Gary allows.
>
> A most annoying but beloved kitty and even he's dead now.
>

I'm sure Mr. Kitty was a nice cat, but you can't paint all cats with the
same brush.

Jill

[raci...@gmail.com]

I'd love to help u all my Father is the man that made green goddess.. But I probably cant.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 racila j55 wrote:
>
>I'd love to help u all my Father is the man that made green goddess..

Did your dad's green goddess have green bosoms... I'll bet by now
they've ripened into rosy Double Ds.

[Thomas]

I buy this regulary. Ital seasoning. 7s fo sho.

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye, why did yoose marry a mexican lady with weee tiny tits?
yoose said she wears a C cup. Dem is tiny little titties.

[jmcquown]

He can't help because he's a Google Grouper replying to a two year old
post and doesn't know how to quote. Likely won't come back with
anything interesting to say.

Penzey's makes a very nice Green Goddess herb blend. It smells
fantastic and is intended to be used, of course, to make salad dressing.
I've found it's also very nice sprinkled on chicken prior to roasting.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 1/9/2020 6:31 AM, raci...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'd love to help u all my Father is the man that made green goddess.. But I probably cant.
>

Thank you for the reply 2 years later. Not relevant.

Jill

[cshenk]

We got rid of Penzey's after they abused customer trust by using our
private emails to send political rants. We use Savory Spice Shop and
they are just as good if not better.

[Cindy Hamilton]

You're pretty thin-skinned. Although I'll admit I avoid buying from
Eden Foods because of political reasons.

Cindy Hamilton

[cshenk]

I'm not thin skinned. We made a collective order and *all* were upset
as they had accounts too and got the emails. It started with anti-gay
they rocketed to anti-republican and insults of all who didnt vote for
Hillary Clinton.

Use your money where you want. We moved to a responsible company that
doesn't abuse our trust wtih our private email addresses.