Beef stock from freezer-burnt beef?

[Michael Trew]

I'm fixing to finally clean out my upright freezer, and there are a few
very, very old packages of frozen cuts of beef in there. I hate to
throw them out, but they would have a terrible texture if thawed and
cooked.

Question... Would anyone think that they could still make decent
flavored beef stock? I'd love to do that and put them to use... some
french onion soup would really hit the spot, since I'm basically snowed
and iced in for the day.

I don't want to waste my time making the stock if it will taste bad...
thanks in advance for advice!

[jmcquown]

I can't actually say for sure. Are there any bones in that meat? The
thing about really good stock (IMO) is the meat includes *roasted* meaty
bones. I'm not sure what you'll get if you just simmer a bunch of old
beef cuts together.

Don't you label and put dates on things you store in the freezer? If
not, it's a practice I highly recommend. Also, when you restock the
freezer shuffle the oldest items to the front and put the newer items in
the back. In accounting terms it is known as FIFO (first in, first out)
but it makes good sense with a freezer, too.

Jill

[Sheldon Martin]

I use a magic marker to date and name all items that go in my freezer.
If I have any doubt of the usefulness of any item it goes into my
trash. I'd be embarrassed to ask anyone if it's okay to use an item
that's been in my freezer for more than a year. If I see freezer burn
there's no need to ask, shit can it. It'd be pretty dumb to use a
hunk of ancient freezer burnt meat to make a soup, adding fresh
ingredients like parsley, onions, celery, potatoes, carrots and
seasonings means you possess no IQ... look ASHAMED!

[songbird]

how thick are they?

thin stuff i'd not bother with. thicker stuff cut away anything
that smells like freezer burn. if you can still smell it after
that give up and feed it to the dogs or the worms.

i despise freezer burn smell or taste. any hint of it and i'm
done.


songbird

[Michael Trew]

On 2/4/2022 13:02, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Feb 2022 12:27:26 -0500, Michael Trew
> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm fixing to finally clean out my upright freezer, and there are a few
>> very, very old packages of frozen cuts of beef in there. I hate to
>> throw them out, but they would have a terrible texture if thawed and
>> cooked.
>>
>> Question... Would anyone think that they could still make decent
>> flavored beef stock? I'd love to do that and put them to use... some
>> french onion soup would really hit the spot, since I'm basically snowed
>> and iced in for the day.
>>
>> I don't want to waste my time making the stock if it will taste bad...
>> thanks in advance for advice!
>
> I use a magic marker to date and name all items that go in my freezer.
> If I have any doubt of the usefulness of any item it goes into my
> trash. I'd be embarrassed to ask anyone if it's okay to use an item
> that's been in my freezer for more than a year. If I see freezer burn
> there's no need to ask, shit can it. It'd be pretty dumb to use a
> hunk of ancient freezer burnt meat to make a soup,

I'm not planning to eat the meat, but to make stock. I hate to waste
things. No, I don't want to attract wild animals to my back yard on my
city lot by throwing it out of my kitchen window. We've almost
completely taken care of the stray cat problem in the neighborhood.

> adding fresh
> ingredients like parsley, onions, celery, potatoes, carrots and
> seasonings means you possess no IQ... look ASHAMED!

Thanks Sheldon, much appreciated.

[Michael Trew]

Most are fairly thin, scraps, etc. I think there might be one roast in
there that I'll try to thaw and see what's left.

[Michael Trew]

I do have one beef stew bone, but I figured I'd simmer the meat with it
for flavor. I probably won't, since I don't want to risk ruining the
flavor. I was just wondering if it worked for someone else before I
throw the old cuts out.

[Ritchie]

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Oscar]

Ghe? Uhm, can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Pascal]

[Bernardo]

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On 2/4/2022 12:36 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/4/2022 12:27 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> I don't want to waste my time making the stock if it will taste bad...
>> thanks in advance for advice!
>
> I can't actually say for sure.
>

> Jill
>
Then don't answer, attention whore.

[Gary]

On 2/4/2022 12:27 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

Use them. Freezer dried is only loss of water, not flavor.

[Gary]

Simmer all the old cuts in a small amount of water and see what you get.
No waste there for trying.

[songbird]

Gary wrote:
...

> Use them. Freezer dried is only loss of water, not flavor.

there is a huge difference between freezer burnt food
and freeze dried.


songbird

[US Janet]

On Fri, 04 Feb 2022 12:27:26 -0500, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

I don't get freezer burned meat but I take the meat out of the store
package styrofoam tray and overwrap plastic as soon as I get home. I
then wrap tightly in a large piece of plastic wrap. The plastic wrap
I choose is large enough to go around the meat a couple of times. I
use a Sharpie to write on the package what the meat is, how many
pieces or the weight of what is inside and the date. I know it sounds
like a lot of effort but it really isn't.
However, if the meat that you have is a thick cut, I'd cut the freezer
burned part off of the chunk and cook the remainder of the chunk with
lots of onions, celery, some carrot, bay leaf and garlic, s&p
Iwouldn't buy any fresh veggies to do this. Hopefully you have been
freezing any veggies and mushrooms that are a little over the hill.
Janet US.

[Stan]

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Jill can comment on anything she wants to. Nobody died and left
you king of the hill, Kermit.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

You must have me confused with someone that cares what you think, battle
axe.

[Ricardo]

[Umberto]

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my not frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-02-04, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:

> Question... Would anyone think that they could still make decent
> flavored beef stock? I'd love to do that and put them to use... some
> french onion soup would really hit the spot, since I'm basically snowed
> and iced in for the day.

> I don't want to waste my time making the stock if it will taste bad...
> thanks in advance for advice!

For the life of me, I don't know what you have to lose by doing it. It
won't be poisonous. I can't even imagine that it'll taste "off".
I trim off freezer burn for frying or roasting. I wouldn't bother for
making stock. Maybe, I'm lucky that I haven't died by now.

[Jeßus]

On 6 Feb 2022 02:27:19 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

<leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


>For the life of me, I don't know what you have to lose by doing it. It
>won't be poisonous. I can't even imagine that it'll taste "off".
>I trim off freezer burn for frying or roasting.

100% it won't taste bad due to freezer burned meat. Why would it? I
can't think of a better use for old freezer burned meat, unless you
have a dog perhaps.

>I wouldn't bother for
>making stock. Maybe, I'm lucky that I haven't died by now.

I used to make stock all the time, these days less time than ever and
the motivation is less too.

[Bernie]

On Sun, 06 Feb 2022 13:54:00 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:

>On 6 Feb 2022 02:27:19 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
><leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>For the life of me, I don't know what you have to lose by doing it. It
>>won't be poisonous. I can't even imagine that it'll taste "off".
>>I trim off freezer burn for frying or roasting.
>
>100% it won't taste bad due to freezer burned meat. Why would it? I
>can't think of a better use for old freezer burned meat, unless you
>have a dog perhaps.
>

Michael's afraid of dogs.

>
>>I wouldn't bother for
>>making stock. Maybe, I'm lucky that I haven't died by now.
>
>I used to make stock all the time, these days less time than ever and
>the motivation is less too.
>

I see. You're so interesting!

[Bernie]

We Dutch have a saying about froggers like yoos, which is KILL YOURSELF
you loser. no friends no real job no money no sex and no hope for the
future. Loser. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[jmcquown]

On 2/5/2022 2:49 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

I'm suppose to be somehow offended or insulted by this childish
name-calling. Does his mother know he's using her computer? LOLOL

Jill

[Jeff]

[songbird]

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
...

> For the life of me, I don't know what you have to lose by doing it. It
> won't be poisonous. I can't even imagine that it'll taste "off".
> I trim off freezer burn for frying or roasting. I wouldn't bother for
> making stock. Maybe, I'm lucky that I haven't died by now.

it's not the risk of bacterial problems for me but purely the
smell/taste of it. just hideous. even a little bit in a broth
would probably ruin it. some people have much more sensitive
taste/smell receptors.


songbird

[Bryan Simmons]

I agree. If it's freezer burned, it is very likely that it will taste bad.
It is safe to eat, but not worth messing with.
>
> songbird

--Bryan

[Michael Trew]

I'll trim off the worst sections and get back... I'm just curious at
this point.

[Joni]

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[dsi1]

Making soup with the nasty parts seems like a perfectly good idea. There's a full service butcher shop on this rock. They cut off the dried ugly skin on their aged beef and use it in their burgers. I've cooked some really nasty looking beef that's been left in the refrigerator for too long. It makes for a memorable piece of meat.

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[Lisa]

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my not frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))