Coat check at restaurants (somewhat off topic)
tomb...@city-net.com
check there coats when they dine out. Today there was a letter to the
editor about the article, and there was something in the letter that I
cannot figure out. The letter follows:
We were with four other couples. When we claimed our coats, the woman
called the names of their owners, which were emblazoned in the
luxurious linings of their respective minks: “Sandy?” “Barbara?”
“June?” When she got to my black cloth cape, she loudly announced “A &
S?”
I was very much younger then, but I can still feel the blush creeping
up from my toes.
end of letter.
I cannot figure out why: "When she got to my black cloth cape, she
loudly announced “A & S?”, made her blush. Any ideas?
Thanks
Tom
PS: The places I eat expect you to keep your coat.
Nancy2
wrote:
I dunno, I'm kind of naive, but the only thing I can think of is that
the A & S is a brand name of the coat, and the others were custom made
by furriers and had the owner's names embroidered inside (very common
with expensive furs).
N.
Goomba
> I dunno, I'm kind of naive, but the only thing I can think of is that
> the A & S is a brand name of the coat, and the others were custom made
> by furriers and had the owner's names embroidered inside (very common
> with expensive furs).
>
> N.
It used to be (and may still?) common with men's custom suits too.
I'm sort of assuming A&S is a lower end clothing line or store compared
to the furs?
pavane
"Goomba" <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:718g8hF...@mid.individual.net...
Doubtless Abraham & Strauss, a mid-level New York area department
store recently name-dumped by Macy's.
Nancy Young
It was a Federated store, the same company that took over
Macy's a number of years back. A&S was about on par with
Macy's in quality of merchandise.
nancy
Nancy Young
> Nancy2 wrote:
>
>> I dunno, I'm kind of naive, but the only thing I can think of is that
>> the A & S is a brand name of the coat, and the others were custom
>> made by furriers and had the owner's names embroidered inside (very
>> common with expensive furs).
> It used to be (and may still?) common with men's custom suits too.
> I'm sort of assuming A&S is a lower end clothing line or store
> compared to the furs?
I wonder if men flash the lining of their jackets to impress people
the way that coat check scenario was supposed to separate
the really rich from the losers who bought their coat from a
department store?
nancy
Lou Decruss
My coats have the tags cut in half. Or cut off completely. <g>
Goodwill Lou
Nancy Young
(laugh!!) I saw they have been opening big new stores and
they're doing very well.
nancy
brooklyn1
"Nancy Young" <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I always flashed my Robert Hall label.
Lou Decruss
<rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:52:17 -0500, "Nancy Young"
>> <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>> I wonder if men flash the lining of their jackets to impress people
>>> the way that coat check scenario was supposed to separate
>>> the really rich from the losers who bought their coat from a
>>> department store?
>>
>> My coats have the tags cut in half. Or cut off completely. <g>
>>
>> Goodwill Lou
>
>(laugh!!) I saw they have been opening big new stores and
>they're doing very well.
Yep. We went to a grand opening for one last Friday. We got there 5
minutes after opening so the line outside was gone because they opened
the doors early but it was a madhouse! Forget trying to push a cart
through an aisle. Louise loaded me up and I'd pay, load the car and
go back for another round. Finally I got to look around for myself
and I scored big time in the kitchen area. I got a brand new electric
meat grinder new in the box with the paperwork for 15 bucks. They had
a bunch of them. Also a new pasta machine for 2 bucks, a big canning
set for 10 bucks, and a 10 inch spring form pan for 2 bucks. We got
too many other great deals to even list. I'm excited to use the
grinder for the first time. My old one died and I missed it but this
one is much nicer.
Lou
Lou Decruss
I always figured you as a CFK kinda guy.
Lou
tween...@mypacks.net
wrote:
I used to check coats. I would NEVER have called out the name -
would've meant I was snooping during the lull. I would hand the
woman's coat to the man, holding his while he helped her and then
helping him on with his.
I remember one snowy night a group of ten women came to dine ( this
was a snazzy resto - steak and lobster house ), I hung up ten coats
and kept a lot of boots and hats straight, and the tightwads left one
thin dime - FOR ALL of 'em. Then I got a five buck tip for one hat
from a race track type, so I guess it balanced out. It was easy
money, but the hours stunk.
Best perk - I got to eat leftover desserts as the kitchen was closing
down for the night. Also had the best white clam chowdah in the area.
Other good perk - this was all taxfree cash in my pocket.
Abraham and Strauss?
Mr. Bill
<LouDe...@biteme.com> wrote:
>My coats have the tags cut in half. Or cut off completely. <g>
Last winter's coat had a small hole in the back....but Momma repaired
it and now it looks like a "scab" about the size of a 45. Kept me
warm though..... <g>
brooklyn1
"Lou Decruss" <LouDe...@biteme.com> wrote in message
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Okay, I'll bite... what's "CFK"?
Hmm, I know EJK.... E. J. Korvettes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._J._Korvette
Robert Hall was THE label:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hall_Clothes
The label to flaunt:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3658687179477483085
Lou Decruss
<grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Lou Decruss" <LouDe...@biteme.com> wrote in message
>news:0n6uq4lo84vd46c3b...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:07:07 GMT, "brooklyn1"
>> <grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>I always flashed my Robert Hall label.
>>
>> I always figured you as a CFK kinda guy.
>>
>> Lou
>>
>
>Okay, I'll bite... what's "CFK"?
cheap fukin k-mart.
Goomba
> I wonder if men flash the lining of their jackets to impress people
> the way that coat check scenario was supposed to separate
> the really rich from the losers who bought their coat from a
> department store?
>
> nancy
My husband used to get basic stuff made in Korea just by bringing a
picture of the desired item in to the tailor (who had all his
measurements previously) and the finished item would have his name
embroidered inside. Per the classic John Malloy's "Dress for Success" he
wrote of the elegant custom made suits in Hong Kong and surely they were
also embroidered so too. But since men don't routinely check their suit
jackets, other than their dry cleaner, who'd see it?
brooklyn1
K-Mart doesn't sell men's suits.
Typical low IQ Lou... not even slightly humorous, no redeeming social value
whatsoever.
Nancy Young
Nice!! I should see if there's one around here, it would be fun
to see. Congratulations on the new meat grinder.
nancy
Gloria P
>
> I cannot figure out why: "When she got to my black cloth cape, she
> loudly announced “A & S?”, made her blush. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom
> PS: The places I eat expect you to keep your coat.
I vaguely remember a middle class department store in NYC
called something like "Abraham & Strauss".
IThe label added to the class distinction between a luxurious fur and
a "black cloth cape."
gloria p
Wayne Boatwright
IIRC, Macy's was formerly Abraham & Strauss. Also part of the Federated
Department Store chain.
--
Wayne Boatwright
"One man's meat is another man's poison"
- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.
Ed Pawlowski
"Wayne Boatwright" <waynebo...@arizona.usa.com> wrote in message
> IIRC, Macy's was formerly Abraham & Strauss. Also part of the Federated
> Department Store chain.
>
Macy's is celebrating their 100th anniversary this year. Most every
department store has been bought, sold, traded, renamed or closed over the
past 20 years or so.
Nancy Young
> On Wed 04 Mar 2009 07:08:55p, Gloria P told us...
>
>> tomb...@city-net.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I cannot figure out why: "When she got to my black cloth cape, she
>>> loudly announced “A & S?”, made her blush. Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> PS: The places I eat expect you to keep your coat.
>> I vaguely remember a middle class department store in NYC
>> called something like "Abraham & Strauss".
>>
>> IThe label added to the class distinction between a luxurious fur and
>> a "black cloth cape."
> IIRC, Macy's was formerly Abraham & Strauss. Also part of the
> Federated Department Store chain.
Macy's was only bought by Federated in the last decade or
so. Darned shame, too.
nancy
Wayne Boatwright
Abraham & Strauss was founded in the 1880s.
sf
<rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Macy's was only bought by Federated in the last decade or
>so. Darned shame, too.
Time flies... it happened back in '94. Seems longer. Damned shame
about the great stores Federated bought and used up.
--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.
Mae West
Wayne Boatwright
> On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:57:23 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Macy's was only bought by Federated in the last decade or so. Darned
>>shame, too.
>
> Time flies... it happened back in '94. Seems longer. Damned shame
> about the great stores Federated bought and used up.
>
>
It really is a shame. Not only did they buy and use them up, but the unique
quality of each of the stores dissolved. Everything seems to be same no
matter what store you go in. Years ago, shopping in many of the stores was
an exciting event. I'm at least glad that I lived during decades when that
wasn't the case. Hell, shopping online is more exciting these days, at least
to me.
jmcquown
> On Wed 04 Mar 2009 10:01:05p, sf told us...
>
>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:57:23 -0500, "Nancy Young"
>> <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Macy's was only bought by Federated in the last decade or so. Darned
>>>shame, too.
>>
>> Time flies... it happened back in '94. Seems longer. Damned shame
>> about the great stores Federated bought and used up.
>>
>>
>
> It really is a shame. Not only did they buy and use them up, but the
> unique
> quality of each of the stores dissolved. Everything seems to be same no
> matter what store you go in. Years ago, shopping in many of the stores
> was
> an exciting event. I'm at least glad that I lived during decades when
> that
> wasn't the case. Hell, shopping online is more exciting these days, at
> least
> to me.
>
Yep. Thirty years ago in Memphis there was Lowenstein's, Goldsmith's and
Julius Lewis (a really upscale store but they had great sales!) Federated
bought out Goldsmith's and renamed it Macy's. Lowensteins was "absorbed" by
Dillards but I think it's also part of the Federated chain. There's no
individuality anymore when you shop at a Federated store. I definitely shop
online; more choices and if you know how to look, online coupons for free
shipping :) Not to mention I haven't liked going to "the mall" since I was
a teenager.
Jill
jmcquown
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> "tomb...@city-net.com" <tomb...@city-net.com> news:e8c745a0-7ba8-4b78-
> 8419-8da...@r36g2000vbp.googlegroups.com: in rec.food.cooking
>
>> Last week there was an article in the NY Times about why people do not
>> check there coats when they dine out. Today there was a letter to the
>> editor about the article, and there was something in the letter that I
>> cannot figure out. The letter follows:
>>
>> We were with four other couples. When we claimed our coats, the woman
>> called the names of their owners, which were emblazoned in the
>> luxurious linings of their respective minks: "Sandy?" "Barbara?"
>> S?"
>>
>> I was very much younger then, but I can still feel the blush creeping
>> up from my toes.
>>
>> end of letter.
>>
>> loudly announced "A & S?", made her blush. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tom
>> PS: The places I eat expect you to keep your coat.
>
> check person may have had no other way to identify the owner of the coat.
> Perhaps the coat was a lower end brand than the furs which is what
> possibly embarassed the owner.
>
> Michael
>
I've only been to two "affairs" at fancy restaurants where I checked my
coat. We were given coat-check tickets. They had numbers on them. The
coats were identified by the numbers on the tickets (I assume they tucked
them into the pocket or somehow pinned them into the lining). The person
simply went and retrieved our coats and we left. We were not called by our
names (or numbers). Maybe they're more polite in Memphis than they are in
NYC <huge wink>
Jill
Nancy Young
> On Wed 04 Mar 2009 10:01:05p, sf told us...
>
>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:57:23 -0500, "Nancy Young"
>> <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Macy's was only bought by Federated in the last decade or so.
>>> Darned shame, too.
>>
>> Time flies... it happened back in '94. Seems longer. Damned shame
>> about the great stores Federated bought and used up.
> It really is a shame. Not only did they buy and use them up, but the
> unique quality of each of the stores dissolved. Everything seems to
> be same no matter what store you go in. Years ago, shopping in many
> of the stores was an exciting event. I'm at least glad that I lived
> during decades when that wasn't the case. Hell, shopping online is
> more exciting these days, at least to me.
Exactly. They turned Macy's from ... Macy's ... into just some
department store. Not a particularly nice one, either. I have to
think they killed off some malls when they bought Macy's because
they own so many other big brands that they'd own more than one
anchor store there. My local mall had Macy's and A&S. So long,
A&S.
Whatever. Let's just say Federated isn't my favorite Canadian
import.
nancy
Andy
In Amsterdam, NL I'd close out the days for a bit at the Holland Casino. I
walked in once wearing jeans and a black leather jacket. They stopped me and
made me check my jacket at the coat check.
On another day I wore jeans and a jean jacket that they didn't make me check.
I guess as long as it looks like a match, that's OK. ???
Andy
Jean B.
> On Wed 04 Mar 2009 10:01:05p, sf told us...
>
>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:57:23 -0500, "Nancy Young"
>> <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Macy's was only bought by Federated in the last decade or so. Darned
>>> shame, too.
>> Time flies... it happened back in '94. Seems longer. Damned shame
>> about the great stores Federated bought and used up.
>>
>>
>
> It really is a shame. Not only did they buy and use them up, but the unique
> quality of each of the stores dissolved. Everything seems to be same no
> matter what store you go in. Years ago, shopping in many of the stores was
> an exciting event. I'm at least glad that I lived during decades when that
> wasn't the case. Hell, shopping online is more exciting these days, at least
> to me.
>
at least (kind-of) continued to survive as Macy's. JM's rival and
another Boston landmark, Filene's, was acquired by Federated, and
it just disappeared. Lord & Taylor survives.... Now I see it was
sold by Federated to NRDC Equity Partners in 2006....
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
My daughter actually prefers to shop at used clothing stores. As
you say, there is a real lack of choice. Funny, since these
stores are chock full of clothes. It never ceases to amaze me
that that can be the case, and, at the same time, it is impossible
to find what one wants.
--
Jean B.
Lou Decruss
<rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
I'd assume the grand opening day would be the best. They had a DJ
with raffles every 15 minutes and a TV crew there. Also black suits
opening the doors and greeting people. 8 cash registers and there was
still a 15 minute line to check out. I'd guess after a few days it's
calmed down. There was tons of new stuff donated by big companies and
I'm sure that's the first stuff to go.
>Congratulations on the new meat grinder.
Thanks. Made me happy.
Lou
..PL..
>>> meat grinder new in the box with the paperwork for 15 bucks. They had
>>> a bunch of them. Also a new pasta machine for 2 bucks, a big canning
What's the pasta machine like??
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
Killfile all Google Groups posters.........
Lou Decruss
<grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Lou Decruss" <LouDe...@biteme.com> wrote in message
>news:ua8uq4th8cjp8tpru...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:43:10 GMT, "brooklyn1"
>> <grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Lou Decruss" <LouDe...@biteme.com> wrote in message
>>>news:0n6uq4lo84vd46c3b...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:07:07 GMT, "brooklyn1"
>>>> <grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>I always flashed my Robert Hall label.
>>>>
>>>> I always figured you as a CFK kinda guy.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>>
>>>
>>>Okay, I'll bite... what's "CFK"?
>>
>> cheap fukin k-mart.
>
>K-Mart doesn't sell men's suits.
I guess you would know.
>Typical low IQ Lou... not even slightly humorous, no redeeming social value
>whatsoever.
The only humor needed here is watching you get bitch-slapped.
Lou
sf
<waynebo...@arizona.usa.com> wrote:
>It really is a shame. Not only did they buy and use them up,
and threw them away... they just don't exist anymore.
>but the unique
>quality of each of the stores dissolved.
Completely gone. We had a wonderful high end store called I Magnin's
that didn't have cash registers on the floor. They used pneumatic
tubes. Your item was whisked away and *wrapped*. They even sent
items you bought to your home (for free), so you wouldn't have to lug
them all over town.
>Everything seems to be same no
>matter what store you go in.
Damn shame too
>Years ago, shopping in many of the stores was
>an exciting event.
Or at least pleasant, vs. feeling like a rat in a maze today with over
crowded racks and too small isles.
>I'm at least glad that I lived during decades when that
>wasn't the case. Hell, shopping online is more exciting these days, at least
>to me.
I hate online shopping even more.
Steve Pope
>pavane wrote:
>> Doubtless Abraham & Strauss, a mid-level New York area department
>> store recently name-dumped by Macy's.
>It was a Federated store, the same company that took over
>Macy's a number of years back. A&S was about on par with
>Macy's in quality of merchandise.
Yes, Federated changed its name to Macy's (smart move, I think).
Steve
jmcquown
news:71a1p6F...@mid.individual.net...
I've found some incredible things at "used" clothing stores. I remember
going with my mother to a doctor's appointment. We were way too early, so
we browsed in a thrift shop across the street to kill some time. I bought
two very nice blouses for $3. I don't think they'd ever been worn. But
there's nothing wrong with "gently worn" (I think that's the term they use)
clothing. You can find some real bargains and unique things in those shops
:)
Jill
brooklyn1
"sf" wrote:
>
> I hate online shopping even more.
>
>
What's to hate?
So long as I don't need to try it on or try it out on line shopping can't be
beat... last thing I bought (a week ago) was printer cartridges... why
should I drive to the store when I can buy from the comfort of home, for
less than half price and free shipping: inksmile.com For most items it's
best to buy on line, for electronics and cameras the best deals are at the
manufacturer's web site. I mean it's probably best to go sit in that new
sofa first to see if it fits your ass but if you know your size and brand
there's no reason you need to try on a bra.
Dave Smith
> I've found some incredible things at "used" clothing stores. I remember
> going with my mother to a doctor's appointment. We were way too early,
> so we browsed in a thrift shop across the street to kill some time. I
> bought two very nice blouses for $3. I don't think they'd ever been
> worn. But there's nothing wrong with "gently worn" (I think that's the
> term they use) clothing. You can find some real bargains and unique
> things in those shops :)
My wife often shops at Goodwill stores and gets incredible deals on
things. A lot of the clothes she buys there look like they have never
been worn. One sweater she got for $4 was like brand new, and a $15
leather jacket was merely broken in. I saw a pair of Tiller Endurable
pants in almost new condition for $10. Those pants sell for $125 and
last for years.
As for coat checks, Any I have used give you tickets with a number. You
give them the ticket and they get you the coat with the matching number.
I am reluctant to leave a coat hanging in a restaurant or other place
unattended. We have had two incidents where someone took a one of our
coats and left behind a similar one. In one case it was my son's winter
parka. The restaurant would offer nothing for compensation but a few
days later we met up with the person who got home and realized he had
the wrong coat. In the other one my wife ended up with a coat that was
identical to hers but a size smaller. We never did get that corrected.
However, she lost some weight and kept it off and used that coat for
more than 20 years.
Horry
> I am reluctant to leave a coat hanging in a restaurant or other place
> unattended. We have had two incidents where someone took a one of our
> coats and left behind a similar one. In one case it was my son's winter
> parka. The restaurant would offer nothing for compensation but a few
> days later we met up with the person who got home and realized he had
> the wrong coat. In the other one my wife ended up with a coat that was
> identical to hers but a size smaller. We never did get that corrected.
> However, she lost some weight and kept it off and used that coat for
> more than 20 years.
Just to save the expense of a new coat?
Horry
> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:17:00 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> <waynebo...@arizona.usa.com> wrote:
>
>>It really is a shame. Not only did they buy and use them up,
>
> and threw them away... they just don't exist anymore.
>
>>but the unique
>>quality of each of the stores dissolved.
>
> Completely gone. We had a wonderful high end store called I Magnin's
> that didn't have cash registers on the floor. They used pneumatic
> tubes.
Just the other day I noticed that the checkouts at my local supermarket
have pneumatic tubes. I doubt they're still used though.
> Your item was whisked away and *wrapped*.
Not by pneumatic tube, of course...
Lou Decruss
Macy's bought Marshal Fields and people stopped going. Wasn't such a
good idea here I don't think.
Lou
D K
> I've found some incredible things at "used" clothing stores. I remember
> going with my mother to a doctor's appointment. We were way too early,
> so we browsed in a thrift shop across the street to kill some time. I
> bought two very nice blouses for $3. I don't think they'd ever been
> worn. But there's nothing wrong with "gently worn" (I think that's the
> term they use) clothing. You can find some real bargains and unique
> things in those shops :)
>
> Jill
You can skip that now that you're loaded.
Carry on.
-dk
brooklyn1
"StinKy-DinKy" wrote
Actually DinKy you're what's loaded, you're a load of StinKy-DinKy SHIT!
You need to die... G'bye.
D K
Crazy Jill has a sock puppet with the intellect of a six year old!
-dk
brooklyn1
"D K" <inter...@gmailG.com> wrote in message
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You DK piece of shit... DIE! You DK slime bucket... DIE!
sf
<LouDe...@biteme.com> wrote:
>Macy's bought Marshal Fields and people stopped going. Wasn't such a
>good idea here I don't think.
So *that's* what happened to Marshall Fields? Taking the train to
Chicago and shopping at Marshall Fields a week or so before school
began was a yearly trip during my childhood.
sf
>My wife often shops at Goodwill stores and gets incredible deals on
>things.
My DD and her fiance came up for dinner last weekend. He was wearing
a pair of nice shoes they found at Goodwill for $25... the shoes were
virtually unworn and fit him perfectly. I can't remember the brand
name, but they told me it sells for $300 retail. I was impressed. Of
course, I'd never heard of the brand either. DD works in a place
where the girls bring "cheap" purses to work... $500 is considered
cheap. Yeah, two zeros. They call themselves "purse whores".
jmcquown
news:Ly%rl.1592$%u5....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
What DK apparently doesn't realize is people with money manage to keep it by
shopping wisely. They don't pay full price when they can get the exact same
thing half price or less. This is why DK will never have a damn thing in
his useless miserable life.
Jill
D K
-dk
D K
"People with money"? That's hilarious. You inherited your money. I
EARNED mine and still have plenty of it. There are bargains out there
and then there are *used* clothes. Big difference, vulture.
-dk