Liquid Sterno
Win Segal
fondue set with a fondue cookbook. Also want to give some sterno. Here's
the question. First, do all fondue pots use the same size canned sterno?
Then, liquid sterno is being sold at the local bed and bath. Instructions
say that you just pour the liquid where the sterno goes. This sounds much
easier. Does anyone know anything about this liquid sterno? Thanks.
Win
rms
There are two sizes of Sterno that I know of. Unless there are large
commercial "Swiss Fondue" pots I would imagine that most use the
smaller.
Sterno is gelled alcohol. Liquid Sterno would be just alcohol. Why pay
more when plain old denatured alcohol will work. If doing this you
should use an empty used can that was made for the pot to put the
fuel in.
I use the term Swiss fondue as most people are unaware fondue means
eggs and cheese cooked together, a casserole type thing. Fondue pots
originally were used to make a egg/cheese thing and only later did
someone get the idea to try chocolate. Deep frying in one came from
way out in left field. rms
Jill McQuown
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> say that you just pour the liquid where the sterno goes. This sounds much
> easier. Does anyone know anything about this liquid sterno? Thanks.
>
> Win
>
liquid "fuel" (I wouldn't call it sterno, per se). You can't tell how much
the thing is really filled. One time I over filled it and some of the fuel
spilled but I didn't realize it. Thankfully I had the burner sitting on one
of those glass "cutting boards" on the table. The fuel ignited, but the
glass board saved the table and the table cloth.
I promptly purchased regular sterno (small cans, the packaging says for use
with fondue and chafing dishes). It's solid fuel so it won't spill and
doesn't ignite like that other stuff does.
Jill
Puester
The liquid fuel is usually used in a special burner that has
some kind of absorbent material to hold it while it burns
plus the burner has a lid with holes which can be adjusted to
increase or decrease the flame. The solid can of sterno is
for a burner that has a cup the right size to hold the little
can. I think if you poured the liquid into that cup there
would be no way to control the rate of burn. Look at the
directions that came with the pot to see what kind of fuel
they recommend.
gloria p
Thierry Gerbault
news:4jeF9.21192$sT3....@news.bellsouth.net:
Most liquid "fondue" fuel is actually denatured alcohol. The cups for
holding the fuel are usually filled with some type of fiber to absorb the
fuel, and many of these cups have a movable ring around the edge which
controls the height or intensity of the flame. Liquid Sterno will work
fine in one of these cups. The jelled Sterno should not be used in this
type of cup.
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Frogleg
I'd include a supply of whatever fuel was recommended by the fondue
set maker. As others have posted, the arrangements to hold the heat
source are varied -- I remember jelled Sterno in a little can, but my
current fondue set has a setup for denatured(?) alcohol.
Tispe
frankly, I'm a bit scared of it getting out of hand. There are two sizes of
canned sterno, and usually are available in a well stocked grocery store or
a BJ's or Costco.
What further confused me on the directions on the newer set was it
recommends I heat the oil first on the stove and then pour into sterno pot.
Tispe
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Jill McQuown
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> "Jill McQuown" <jmcq...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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> > "Win Segal" <wi...@cyburban.com> wrote in message
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> >> say that you just pour the liquid where the sterno goes. This sounds
> >> much easier. Does anyone know anything about this liquid sterno?
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Win
> >>
> > I do. Be careful with it. My fondue pot came with a thing that takes
> > liquid "fuel" (I wouldn't call it sterno, per se). You can't tell how
> > much the thing is really filled. One time I over filled it and some
> > of the fuel spilled but I didn't realize it. Thankfully I had the
> > burner sitting on one of those glass "cutting boards" on the table.
> > The fuel ignited, but the glass board saved the table and the table
> > cloth.
> >
> > I promptly purchased regular sterno (small cans, the packaging says
> > for use with fondue and chafing dishes). It's solid fuel so it won't
> > spill and doesn't ignite like that other stuff does.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Most liquid "fondue" fuel is actually denatured alcohol. The cups for
> holding the fuel are usually filled with some type of fiber to absorb the
> fuel, and many of these cups have a movable ring around the edge which
> controls the height or intensity of the flame. Liquid Sterno will work
> fine in one of these cups.
Thank you, Thierry, that was denatured alcohol. The "adjustable" ring was
adjustable, but I couldn't tell how much of the alcohol was actually
absorbed by the fibre and couldn't see some of it had dripped out onto the
glass sheet.
The jelled Sterno should not be used in this
> type of cup.
I removed that cup and put the can of jelled sterno in its place. It worked
just fine that way :-)
>
> --
> Regards, Thierry...
Jill
Jill McQuown
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> Win Segal wrote:
> >
> > the question. First, do all fondue pots use the same size canned
sterno?
> > Then, liquid sterno is being sold at the local bed and bath.
>
>
> The liquid fuel is usually used in a special burner that has
> some kind of absorbent material to hold it while it burns
> plus the burner has a lid with holes which can be adjusted to
> increase or decrease the flame. The solid can of sterno is
> for a burner that has a cup the right size to hold the little
> can. I think if you poured the liquid into that cup there
> would be no way to control the rate of burn. Look at the
> directions that came with the pot to see what kind of fuel
> they recommend.
>
> gloria p
The pot I have has the special burner you describe. But it's propped up
below the pan in a stand that will also accommodate a small can of solid
sterno. That liquid denatured alcohol burner thing scares me, for the
aforementioned posted reasons.
BTW, I've only had chocolate fondue once. I prefer the cheese fondue with
cubes of bread. Here's a recipe from the old Good Housekeeping cookbook.
Swiss Cheese Fondue
1 garlic clove, halved
1-1/2 c. dry white wine
1 Tbs. brandy or lemon juice
1 lb. (4 c.) shredded Swiss cheese
3 Tbs. all-purpose flour
dash pepper
dash ground nutmeg
chunks of crusty french bread
Rub garlic well inside fondue pot or saucepan; discard garlic. Pour wine
into pot and heat on low but do not boil. Stir in brandy or lemon juice.
Meanwhile, in medium bowl, toss cheese with flour until mixed. Add cheese to
hot wine mixture by handfuls, stirring constantly with a wooden spoon until
cheese is melted. Stir in pepper and nutmeg to taste. (If made in
saucepan, pour into fondue pot and keep over low heat.)
Spear chunks of bread on long-handled fondue forks or long bamboo skewers.
Makes 3 cups.
Jill
Frogleg
wrote:
>I have two fondue pots, the newer one calls for the denatured alcohol, and
>frankly, I'm a bit scared of it getting out of hand. There are two sizes of
>canned sterno, and usually are available in a well stocked grocery store or
>a BJ's or Costco.
>
>What further confused me on the directions on the newer set was it
>recommends I heat the oil first on the stove and then pour into sterno pot.
No, no. You heat the *cooking* oil before putting it in the *fondue*
pot. You're usually using a couple of cups (or more) of oil, which
would take forever to heat to cooking temperature over the Sterno or
alcohol flame. So you heat the oil in a regular pot on the stove to
get it all up to cooking temperature. Then (carefully!) pour oil into
the fondue pot, and set over the flame gadget to keep it hot.
Thierry Gerbault
Agreed... It really is hard to determine if the fibre has absorbed to
capacity or to over-flowing.
> The jelled Sterno should not be used in this
>> type of cup.
>
> I removed that cup and put the can of jelled sterno in its place. It
> worked just fine that way :-)
Agreed... It makes a good substitute and, on the whole, is probably a
bit safer.
Hope you had a great T-Day!!!
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Nathalie Chiva
> Here's a recipe from the old Good Housekeeping cookbook.
>
> Swiss Cheese Fondue
>
> 1 garlic clove, halved
> 1-1/2 c. dry white wine
> 1 Tbs. brandy or lemon juice
> 1 lb. (4 c.) shredded Swiss cheese
> 3 Tbs. all-purpose flour
> dash pepper
> dash ground nutmeg
> chunks of crusty french bread
>
> Rub garlic well inside fondue pot or saucepan; discard garlic. Pour wine
> into pot and heat on low but do not boil. Stir in brandy or lemon juice.
>
> Meanwhile, in medium bowl, toss cheese with flour until mixed. Add cheese to
> hot wine mixture by handfuls, stirring constantly with a wooden spoon until
> cheese is melted. Stir in pepper and nutmeg to taste. (If made in
> saucepan, pour into fondue pot and keep over low heat.)
>
> Spear chunks of bread on long-handled fondue forks or long bamboo skewers.
> Makes 3 cups.
Skip the flour (3 Tbs? Eeeek - you'll get mealy fondue with that amount). If you
fear the fondue will separate, use 1 tsp cornflour, diluted in cherry brandy.
Oh, and you shouldn't use brandy in there, it's really cherry brandy which is
used (aka kirchwasser).
Nathalie in Switzerland, who once saw an American recipe for Swiss cheese fondue
with 4 eggs in it, yikes!
Pan Ohco
Liquid sterno, would that be like napom
Pan Ohco
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all possible evil of evil men." Edmund Burke
Jill McQuown
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imagine eggs in fondue, either. I know about kirsch, just don't usually
have it on hand and the book said brandy so... Thanks for the tip about the
cornflour. I was never really clear on why all that flour, either.
Jill
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Dave Smith
afternoon, Woods Cooking Gel.
Ophelia
What is 'sterno'? I googled but all I get is a muscle:)
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Ophelia
jelled alcohol and comes in a small can. You remove the top and light the
jell and slide the container under the buffet pan to keep the contents warm.
Sometimes, informally, referred to as "canned heat".
http://www.sternopro.com/
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"On the Road Again" by "Canned Heat"
Remember that? Listen again and be sure to turn up the volume. :-D
Bruce
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Ophelia
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Ewwwwwwwwww. I have heard that junkies take all kind of dangerous stuff to
get that 'high'. Madness.
Thanks:)
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Ophelia
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What a waste of a life:((
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> My niece's ex was addicted to breathing aerosols. He wouldn't show up
> and they'd have to go looking for him in store parking lots. He'd be in
> his car with the windows up and he'd be passed out. They found him dead
> one day. He was lucky to have survived for so long but that time he went
> over to the other side and there was nothing anybody could have done
> about it.
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> What a waste of a life:((
>
spray cooking spray (PAM) in a plastic bag and breathe the fumes. It
didn't take long to kill him. I still remember his name: Herbert Hancock.
Jill
Ophelia
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Cindy Hamilton
In 1999 I moved to Temperance, Michigan, right after the expiration of
a 100-year-old law prohibiting the sale of alcohol for drinking purposes.
Cindy Hamilton
jmcquown
spray, really? The poor guy wasted his life for no reason.
Jill
Dave Smith
way I am going to consume that stuff, or many other products that
contain alcohol but are not meant to be consumed by humans, like hand
sanitizer and cleaning products.
>
> In 1999 I moved to Temperance, Michigan, right after the expiration of
> a 100-year-old law prohibiting the sale of alcohol for drinking purposes.
dry until the 1980s. We got a liquor store that also sold beer, but you
had to take the empty beer cans and bottles back to the John Deere
dealership.
Dave Smith
> It was very sad and very stupid. Anything to "get high". Cooking
> spray, really? The poor guy wasted his life for no reason.
possible. I used to know a guy who loved to drink a lot of beer and
smoke a lot of dope. I used to think his goal in life was to die while
partying. I had a neighbour who I was friends with in high school but
he and I parted ways when he got into hard drugs. I heard that he died
of an overdose about 15 years ago. No one seems to know or care much
about it.
jmcquown
I have a can of gelled sterno in the pantry:
https://s27.postimg.org/b2icl444j/sterno1.jpg
https://s17.postimg.org/uwj36ge4v/sterno2.jpg
Liquid sterno is pretty much like putting lighter fluid into cotton
wadding. Dangerous as hell. You can hope it doesn't catch the table
cloth on fire.
Gelled sterno is much more stable.
And yes, I still have a fondue pot. I was thinking maybe I'd use it
again this New Years Eve. Haven't done that since 1995.
Maybe this year I'll make cheese fondue. :) A blast from the past.
Want to put the fire out on the Sterno? Close the lid on the Sterno can.
I once set my fondue pot on a glass "cutting board" and used liquid
sterno in the little cotton filled thing that came with it. It leaked
and set the glass cutting board on fire! Fire extinquisher! Do not use
liquid Sterno.
Jill
Cindy Hamilton
> I once set my fondue pot on a glass "cutting board" and used liquid
> sterno in the little cotton filled thing that came with it. It leaked
> and set the glass cutting board on fire! Fire extinquisher! Do not use
> liquid Sterno.
>
> Jill
had any trouble with it.
Cindy Hamilton
jmcquown
>
>> Too true. I went to high school with a boy who died from this. He'd
>> spray cooking spray (PAM) in a plastic bag and breathe the fumes. It
>> didn't take long to kill him. I still remember his name: Herbert Hancock.
>
>
> -sw
>
Not the same guy and I doubt it made the news.
Jill
jmcquown
I'm happy with the canned gelled form. Not that I use it much anymore.
But, as I said, might make some cheese fondue!
Jill
dsi1
My college music teacher is long gone but his website is still around and selling his books. That's OK, in this way we can continue to live long after we pass. The person reading my post now is likely to imagine me still around but I'll be long dead.
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jmcquown
>
>> On 12/8/2016 7:57 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 11:34:31 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Too true. I went to high school with a boy who died from this. He'd
>>>> spray cooking spray (PAM) in a plastic bag and breathe the fumes. It
>>>> didn't take long to kill him. I still remember his name: Herbert Hancock.
>>>
>>> http://www.familytreenow.com/search/death/results?first=herbert&last=hancock&rid=0s2&smck=Ik-ilbsaEIXcsFbXsldkjw
>>>
>
> report huffing or any other kinds of OD deaths unless the body was
> found in unusual circumstances before cause of death was determined.
>
> -sw
>
Not that it matters but I had graduated by 1981. This happened when I
was still in school, mid-70's. This was one of those things we heard
through the grapevine. Parents try to keep things like this from their
kids but kids have a way of finding things out.
Jill