Pizza recipe (from Hogan's Heroes episode 22 'The Pizza Parlor' 12-13th minute)

[Transition Zone]

- 2 cloves of garlic - 1 half cup mushrooms ends and pieces
- 1 half pound italian sausage - 1 can tomato paste
- 2 tbsp oregano - 3 tbsp Parmesan cheese grated
- a pinch of ? - ? tbsp shortening
- 1 cup flour - 1 tsp olive oil
But no mixing instructions? no baking instructions? no fennel

[Ed Pawlowski]

I guess you have to watch the episode for more instructions.

Meantime, put all ingredients in a bowl and mix well, Spread it out on
a cookie sheet and back until it is solid enough to eat.

[Sqwertz]

Well, it's a half-assed recipe from Hollywood writers' mistaken
opinions of "pizza" in the mid 60's of what pizza might mean to a
Fremchman or Italian in 1940 (2 TB oregano? Shortening?). Also,
LeBeau would have used metric measurements.

It's a shame there was never a true final episode(s)of Hogan's
Heroes. They whole camp could have escaped in grand fashion the
night before a Burkhalter's visit the next morning.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

I think they got most of the recipe from reading a box of Chef
Boyardee pizza kit, which, in 1962, contained a packet of "parmesan"
cheese, a packet of seasoning, and a can of sauce with Italian
sausage in it. And the flour mix already had shortening mixed into
-sw

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-09-20 11:10 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
>
> I think they got most of the recipe from reading a box of Chef
> Boyardee pizza kit, which, in 1962, contained a packet of "parmesan"
> cheese, a packet of seasoning, and a can of sauce with Italian
> sausage in it. And the flour mix already had shortening mixed into
>

When was a kid the only pizza we knew was the Chef Boyardee pizza kit.
I think that is the main reason that I have never been a big fan of
pizza. It took a long time to overlook those horrible things.

[dsi1]

Hogan's Heroes also provides important information on how to escape from Nazi POW camps. This could be useful in the future for prisoners stuck in Republican Reeducation Centers. We must study these episodes carefully. Pizza? I already know how to make a pizza.

[dsi1]

I loved that kit because you assembled the pizza using pizza modules. I loved doing shit like that - still do.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:83929e35-22c9-4c8e...@googlegroups.com...

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We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.

I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!

He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.

It ended up in the bin:((((((

[Gary]

Ophelia wrote:
>
> We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.
>
> I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!
>
> He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.
>
> It ended up in the bin:((((((

Seriously? I find it hard to believe that some people here
are so food picky.

I can see not ever ordering one again if you don't like
it much, but to toss it out?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 1:32:51 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.
> >
> > I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!
> >
> > He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.
> >
> > It ended up in the bin:((((((
> Seriously? I find it hard to believe that some people here
> are so food picky.

We can afford to be.

> I can see not ever ordering one again if you don't like
> it much, but to toss it out?

Some things are just not worth eating. Why suffer? There's always
more food out there somewhere.


Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5F68E3D4...@att.net...

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LOL I think it is safe to say he wont do that again:)))

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
news:8ebedf67-839a-41de...@googlegroups.com...

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I suppose do. But he will only eat those I make now!

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 1:32:51 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > > We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.
> > >
> > > I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!
> > >
> > > He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.
> > >
> > > It ended up in the bin:((((((
> > Seriously? I find it hard to believe that some people here
> > are so food picky.
>
> We can afford to be.

It's not about money.

>
> > I can see not ever ordering one again if you don't like
> > it much, but to toss it out?
>
> Some things are just not worth eating. Why suffer? There's always
> more food out there somewhere.

Not suffering. Just that I don't hate much food. I've never
bought something that was so bad that I'd toss it out. Might be
just OK and never order again, but never so bad to toss it out.
Some here have even claimed having to spit out the first bite
rather than swallow. lol

[Gary]

Hi Oph. Please tell your husband that I said,
"Hi. I'll bet Bear Grylls would have eaten that pizza,
you wimp!" ;)

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5F68EEF0...@att.net...

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5F68EEF0...@att.net...

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LOL He said, He said "Yes, but Bear would probably have washed it down
with a mug of his own pee" and he wouldn't ever do that LOL

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:18:30 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 1:32:51 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > Ophelia wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.
> > > >
> > > > I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!
> > > >
> > > > He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.
> > > >
> > > > It ended up in the bin:((((((
> > > Seriously? I find it hard to believe that some people here
> > > are so food picky.
> >
> > We can afford to be.
> It's not about money.

It's about something. Time, effort, whatever.

> > > I can see not ever ordering one again if you don't like
> > > it much, but to toss it out?
> >
> > Some things are just not worth eating. Why suffer? There's always
> > more food out there somewhere.
> Not suffering. Just that I don't hate much food.

We know you are an indiscriminate eater. Some of us are quite
selective.

Just as you find it hard to believe people are so picky, I find
it hard to believe you are so un-picky.

> I've never
> bought something that was so bad that I'd toss it out. Might be
> just OK and never order again, but never so bad to toss it out.
> Some here have even claimed having to spit out the first bite
> rather than swallow. lol

I'm one of those. Not the spitting. I had one small bite of Beyond Burger
and threw the rest away. Scrambled eggs for dinner that night.

I'm very careful about what I order in restaurants, where the
stakes are higher.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 12:06:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:18:30 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

>> I've never
>> bought something that was so bad that I'd toss it out.

Me neither.

>> Might be
>> just OK and never order again, but never so bad to toss it out.
>> Some here have even claimed having to spit out the first bite
>> rather than swallow. lol
>
>I'm one of those. Not the spitting. I had one small bite of Beyond Burger
>and threw the rest away.

That's a bit spoilt and entitled of the Princess.

>Scrambled eggs for dinner that night.

I hope you made them EXACTLY the way you like them. Don't want an
overflowing bin now, do we?

>I'm very careful about what I order in restaurants, where the
>stakes are higher.

So are the steaks.

[U.S. Janet B.]

throwing food away?

[dsi1]

Holidays are great! Have a good one. Please avoid eating at a McDonald's. :)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:42:25 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 12:06:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:18:30 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>
> >> I've never
> >> bought something that was so bad that I'd toss it out.
>
> Me neither.
>

I have.

Just last week I dumped an almost full quart of fat-free Half-n-Half. Why
I thought it would be good, I don't know. I must have fallen and hit my head
before entering the store. The carton stating it was fat-free Half-n-Half
which is half milk and half cream should have clued me in. How can cream
be fat-free???

It was really awful tasting. Lesson learned; if they're out of the real stuff,
don't buy the fake stuff.

[%]

and it's all fancy with carpet on the floor and everyone wears a gown

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 4:04:13 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:42:25 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 12:06:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:18:30 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >
> > >> I've never
> > >> bought something that was so bad that I'd toss it out.
> >
> > Me neither.
> >
> I have.
>
> Just last week I dumped an almost full quart of fat-free Half-n-Half. Why
> I thought it would be good, I don't know. I must have fallen and hit my head
> before entering the store. The carton stating it was fat-free Half-n-Half
> which is half milk and half cream should have clued me in. How can cream
> be fat-free???

There's no cream. There's skim milk and a bunch of whiteners and thickeners.
I'm frankly surprised they're allowed to call it "Half and Half".

> It was really awful tasting. Lesson learned; if they're out of the real stuff,
> don't buy the fake stuff.

My husband uses it. It would appear that "thick" is the thing he most desires.
I use 2% milk in my coffee.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

We're about to throw out 2 bottles of hot sauce because it gave my
wife sinus problems/headaches and me too a bit. They probably OD'd on
the preservative. I actually just checked: "MADE IN USA. CONTAINS
SULPHITE".

So yes, we throw that out but not because we didn't like it. I could
put it on everything. Back to my own chillies.

[%]

there you are talking about yourself in a positive manner

[Bruce]

Nah.

[%]

oh yea

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

You lost me.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 3:13:20 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 4:04:13 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > Just last week I dumped an almost full quart of fat-free Half-n-Half. Why
> > I thought it would be good, I don't know. I must have fallen and hit my head
> > before entering the store. The carton stating it was fat-free Half-n-Half
> > which is half milk and half cream should have clued me in. How can cream
> > be fat-free???
> >
> There's no cream. There's skim milk and a bunch of whiteners and thickeners.
> I'm frankly surprised they're allowed to call it "Half and Half".
>

I wondered how they could get away with that myself.

>
> > It was really awful tasting. Lesson learned; if they're out of the real stuff,
> > don't buy the fake stuff.
> >
> My husband uses it. It would appear that "thick" is the thing he most desires.
> I use 2% milk in my coffee.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Has he tried heavy cream if he likes the thick stuff?
Personally, I'm a powdered creamer girl myself.

[cshenk]

Fat-free stuff is kinda wierd. Sometimes one brand is awful but
another is actually good.

Sometimes one type is good or bad universally. FF cheeses are never
very good. FF sourcreams can good be if not cooking with them.

[Leo]

On 2020 Sep 21, , Gary wrote
(in article <5F68EE88...@att.net>):

> Not suffering. Just that I don't hate much food. I've never
> bought something that was so bad that I'd toss it out. Might be
> just OK and never order again, but never so bad to toss it out.
> Some here have even claimed having to spit out the first bite
> rather than swallow. lol

When I was a little boy of five or six, I had dinner at my friend’s house.
His mom cooked asparagus, and I either didn’t like the smell or the name. I
was forced to eat a bite, and I threw up. That showed ‘em!
I hated asparagus for over twenty years, just because. Then I bought a meal
with which it was served. The meal cost me money. I ate it because it cost me
money. It turns out,I love asparagus.

leo

[Leo]

On 2020 Sep 21, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
(in article<fdb25640-095e-4c7a...@googlegroups.com>):

> My husband uses it. It would appear that "thick" is the thing he most desires.
> I use 2% milk in my coffee.

Flour and water makes a good thickener. Flour and 2% milk might work. Of
course, that may be what faux half and half is. Cornstarch and skim milk
would be a half and half as well, sort of.

leo

[Leo]

On 2020 Sep 20, , dsi1 wrote
(in article<51497f2e-fa01-4b07...@googlegroups.com>):

> Hogan's Heroes also provides important information on how to escape from Nazi
> POW camps. This could be useful in the future for prisoners stuck in
> Republican Reeducation Centers. We must study these episodes carefully.
> Pizza? I already know how to make a pizza.

Go to Los Alamos and ask the scientists and technicians about their forced
indoctrination into Critical Race Theory. Do you think Republicans are
responsible for that?

[GM]

The vast majority of facism in this country emanates from the left -- think of it as a sort of "soft totalitarianism" "1984" is fast becoming a reality -- aided and abetted by MSM, academia, social/electronic media, entertainment, the coastal liberal elites...and also the ignorance of history that is rife these days...and most especially the absence of critical thinking skills.

__
Best
Greg

[dsi1]

I'm not familiar with the concept/theory/philosophy but I'll get my son's analysis on the matter. Whatever he says, it's going to be brilliant.

[Leo]

On 2020 Sep 21, , dsi1 wrote
(in article<dd2c4909-7f4f-4fac...@googlegroups.com>):

> I'm not familiar with the concept/theory/philosophy but I'll get my son's
> analysis on the matter. Whatever he says, it's going to be brilliant.

Does your son sport a man-bun? That automatically makes one brilliant
nowadays. Can you imagine when the man-buns finally clash with the
ballcap-on-backwards boys for global domination? Dude!

[dsi1]

I donno, is your son gay? Yoose guys shouldn't be making snide remarks about members of my family. Makes me think yoose guys is trolling. Of course, I'm right. I'm always right. :)

[Bruce]

You really have a very short fuse. Makes me wonder how you behave in
traffic. Or maybe you're a mouse in real life, bitching behind
people's back, Asian style.

[Leo]

On 2020 Sep 21, , dsi1 wrote

(in article<768a0253-6d58-4ed3...@googlegroups.com>):

> I donno, is your son gay? Yoose guys shouldn't be making snide remarks about
> members of my family. Makes me think yoose guys is trolling. Of course, I'm
> right. I'm always right. :)

I don’t troll, I don’t think. I occasionally respond to political views
that are opposed to mine. You mentioned a vague right-wing re-education
thought. I pointed out a specific left-wing re-education agenda, with fear of
losing one's job and reputation, that’s going on within the federal
government, private enterprise and our education system right now.
Read “1984”. The ones who lead you have. We’re just a bit late, and I
thought the book was just a novel. Duh!

[Cindy Hamilton]

He wants to minimize calories. He uses fat-free half and half *and*
fat-free Coffeemate, both in the same cup of coffee. I'm amazed he
can taste the coffee.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Ophelia wrote:

>
> "Gary" wrote:
> Hi Oph. Please tell your husband that I said,
> "Hi. I'll bet Bear Grylls would have eaten that pizza,
> you wimp!" ;)
> ======
>
> LOL He said, He said "Yes, but Bear would probably have washed it down
> with a mug of his own pee" and he wouldn't ever do that LOL

heh heh. The craziest thing I've seen Bear do is once when
he was in Africa and he found a fresh pile of elephant poo.
He explained that it's a good source of water in a survival
situation. Ok, true enough but he insisted on demonstrating.

Please, Bear, I believe you! You don't have to actually do
it. But he did. He picked it up and held it over his head
and squeezed the water into his mouth.

I always figured that once he came home from one of these
shows, his wife probably makes him take several showers
and brushes his teeth several times before she kisses him.
LOL

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Just as you find it hard to believe people are so picky, I find
> it hard to believe you are so un-picky.

I was taught to eat everything on my plate. No big deal.
When I was young, occasionally my mom would add beets to
the plate. Just plain sliced canned beets that were heated
up in a saucepan. yuk!

I would always eat them first just to get it over with,
saving the better part of the meal for last. ;)

Unfortunately, she saw that and wrongly assumed that
I loved them...the first thing I ate.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-09-21 11:34 p.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Sep 21, , Gary wrote

> When I was a little boy of five or six, I had dinner at my friend’s house.
> His mom cooked asparagus, and I either didn’t like the smell or the name. I
> was forced to eat a bite, and I threw up. That showed ‘em!
> I hated asparagus for over twenty years, just because. Then I bought a meal
> with which it was served. The meal cost me money. I ate it because it cost me
> money. It turns out,I love asparagus.

LOL. You were like my son when he ate when he was visiting his cousins.
My SiL was a health food Nazi. She made avocado soup and made him it
some. He puked. He likes avocados now, and it could have had a lot to do
with the fact this is aunt was and remains a horrible cook.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-09-22 2:26 a.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Sep 21, , dsi1 wrote
> (in article<dd2c4909-7f4f-4fac...@googlegroups.com>):
>
>> I'm not familiar with the concept/theory/philosophy but I'll get my son's
>> analysis on the matter. Whatever he says, it's going to be brilliant.
>
> Does your son sport a man-bun? That automatically makes one brilliant
> nowadays.

LOL A man bun is an easy way to make a guy look like a douche.

> Can you imagine when the man-buns finally clash with the
> ballcap-on-backwards boys for global domination? Dude!
>

That is a fashion statement I could never buy into. When I was a kid you
would put a hat on backwards or cockeyed to make yourself look stupid.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 8:45:51 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Just as you find it hard to believe people are so picky, I find
> > it hard to believe you are so un-picky.
> I was taught to eat everything on my plate.

I taught the adults in my family not to push me too hard.

> No big deal.
> When I was young, occasionally my mom would add beets to
> the plate. Just plain sliced canned beets that were heated
> up in a saucepan. yuk!
>
> I would always eat them first just to get it over with,
> saving the better part of the meal for last. ;)
>
> Unfortunately, she saw that and wrongly assumed that
> I loved them...the first thing I ate.

I always save some of the best thing for the last bite.

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

Actually, it was a joke.

[dsi1]

That's that strangest part about people in North America - anybody that's different is ridiculed. That's just weird.

[Gary]

dsi1 wrote:
> That's that strangest part about people in North America -
> anybody that's different is ridiculed. That's just weird.

That's just a traditional old ppl thing to do.
The older generation ridicules the younger generation's
choice of hair styles and clothing. Kids always want
to be different than their parents.

Remember the old sitcom parody of that?
"Family Ties" with Michael J. Fox

His parents were old democrat hippies so he dressed up in suits
like a business man and had republican beliefs.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Personally, it sounds terrible to me, but if he likes it that's all
that matters.

[Cindy Hamilton]

It _is_ terrible to me. Once in a while I accidentally have a sip. Bleah!

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

Hopefully, you're right about this - it's just old people acting up. :)

[Transition Zone]

And did the opposite on 'Spin City'.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:229b62fe-6bc7-454d...@googlegroups.com...

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 5:43:05 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> news:83929e35-22c9-4c8e...@googlegroups.com...
> On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 5:30:45 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-09-20 11:10 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > > I think they got most of the recipe from reading a box of Chef
> > > Boyardee pizza kit, which, in 1962, contained a packet of "parmesan"
> > > cheese, a packet of seasoning, and a can of sauce with Italian
> > > sausage in it. And the flour mix already had shortening mixed into
> > >
> >
> > When was a kid the only pizza we knew was the Chef Boyardee pizza kit.
> > I think that is the main reason that I have never been a big fan of
> > pizza. It took a long time to overlook those horrible things.
>
> I loved that kit because you assembled the pizza using pizza modules. I
> loved doing shit like that - still do.
> =====
>
> We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.
>
> I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!
>
> He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.
>
> It ended up in the bin:((((((
Holidays are great! Have a good one. Please avoid eating at a McDonald's. :)

======

Thank you:))) Don't worry, we don't eat in those places:))))

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5F69F1C5...@att.net...

====

Eeewww from him and from me!!!!!

LOL

[Bruce]

On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 09:10:52 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2020-09-22 2:26 a.m., Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Sep 21, , dsi1 wrote
>> (in article<dd2c4909-7f4f-4fac...@googlegroups.com>):
>>
>>> I'm not familiar with the concept/theory/philosophy but I'll get my son's
>>> analysis on the matter. Whatever he says, it's going to be brilliant.
>>
>> Does your son sport a man-bun? That automatically makes one brilliant
>> nowadays.
>
>LOL A man bun is an easy way to make a guy look like a douche.

Even with a man bun, you'd still be Dave Smith. Think about it.

[Bruce]

Dave Smith hates everybody who's not like Dave Smith.

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:42:18 +0100, "Ophelia"
<Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
>news:83929e35-22c9-4c8e...@googlegroups.com...
>
>On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 5:30:45 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-09-20 11:10 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
>> >
>> > I think they got most of the recipe from reading a box of Chef
>> > Boyardee pizza kit, which, in 1962, contained a packet of "parmesan"
>> > cheese, a packet of seasoning, and a can of sauce with Italian
>> > sausage in it. And the flour mix already had shortening mixed into
>> >
>>
>> When was a kid the only pizza we knew was the Chef Boyardee pizza kit.
>> I think that is the main reason that I have never been a big fan of
>> pizza. It took a long time to overlook those horrible things.
>
>I loved that kit because you assembled the pizza using pizza modules. I
>loved doing shit like that - still do.
>
>=====
>
> We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.
>
> I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!
>
> He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.
>
> It ended up in the bin:((((((
>

throwing food away?

=====

Would you eat something you really disliked?

[dsi1]

I'm working on eating natto. It's a stinky food that I'm actually fearful of.

https://www.tsunagujapan.com/you-ll-get-addicted-in-one-bite-the-correct-way-to-eat-natto/

[U.S. Janet B.]

I'm not a picky eater.

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message

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On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:54:37 +0100, "Ophelia"
<Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>news:oi0imf1t6lgs4742n...@4ax.com...
>
>On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:42:18 +0100, "Ophelia"
><Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"dsi1" wrote in message
>>news:83929e35-22c9-4c8e...@googlegroups.com...
>>
>>On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 5:30:45 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2020-09-20 11:10 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I think they got most of the recipe from reading a box of Chef
>>> > Boyardee pizza kit, which, in 1962, contained a packet of "parmesan"
>>> > cheese, a packet of seasoning, and a can of sauce with Italian
>>> > sausage in it. And the flour mix already had shortening mixed into
>>> >
>>>
>>> When was a kid the only pizza we knew was the Chef Boyardee pizza kit.
>>> I think that is the main reason that I have never been a big fan of
>>> pizza. It took a long time to overlook those horrible things.
>>
>>I loved that kit because you assembled the pizza using pizza modules. I
>>loved doing shit like that - still do.
>>
>>=====
>>
>> We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.

>>ik

>> I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!
>>
>> He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.
>>
>> It ended up in the bin:((((((
>>
>throwing food away?
>
>=====
>

> Would you eat something you really disliked?e

>
I'm not a picky eater.

=====

LOL

May I offer you all our leftovers? We are fussy about what we like and
would never buy anything we don't. Will you happily pay money for something
you don't both like ?????

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:54:18 +0100, "Ophelia"

<Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>news:h8nkmf9rvc8a6d75h...@4ax.com...
>
>On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:54:37 +0100, "Ophelia"
><Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>>news:oi0imf1t6lgs4742n...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:42:18 +0100, "Ophelia"
>><Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote:
>>

>>>=====
>>>
>>> We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.
>>>ik
>>> I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!
>>>
>>> He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.
>>>
>>> It ended up in the bin:((((((
>>>
>>throwing food away?
>>
>>=====
>>
>> Would you eat something you really disliked?e
>>
>I'm not a picky eater.
>=====
>
> LOL
>
> May I offer you all our leftovers? We are fussy about what we like and
>would never buy anything we don't. Will you happily pay money for something
>you don't both like ?????

It has already been bought and paid for. I certainly wouldn't buy
something to eat that either one of us disliked or that there was a
good chance that we would dislike.
I can mentally run through the ingredients for a recipe and the way it
is put together and reasonably guess that we would like it or not.
Janet US

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message

news:smummf55pi65d5pda...@4ax.com...

On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:54:18 +0100, "Ophelia"
<Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>news:h8nkmf9rvc8a6d75h...@4ax.com...
>
>On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:54:37 +0100, "Ophelia"
><Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>>news:oi0imf1t6lgs4742n...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:42:18 +0100, "Ophelia"
>><Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote:
>>

>>>=====
>>>
>>> We are on holiday at the moment and D fancied a pizza.
>>>ik
>>> I always make my own at home!! He bought one from a pizza shop!!!
>>>
>>> He always likes ham and pineapple! That is what he ordered.
>>>
>>> It ended up in the bin:((((((
>>>
>>throwing food away?
>>
>>=====
>>
>> Would you eat something you really disliked?e
>>
>I'm not a picky eater.
>=====
>
> LOL

>th

> May I offer you all our leftovers? We are fussy about what we like and
>would never buy anything we don't. Will you happily pay money for
>something
>you don't both like ?????

It has already been bought and paid for. I certainly wouldn't buy
something to eat that either one of us disliked or that there was a
good chance that we would dislike.
I can mentally run through the ingredients for a recipe and the way it
is put together and reasonably guess that we would like it or not.
Janet US

====

There could be a problem if you don't know the chef or the recipe!

I know how I make a pizza, but it didn't taste like mine!

Anyway, we won't be buying from there again!

[jmcquown]

On 9/19/2020 11:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/19/2020 10:38 PM, Transition Zone wrote:
>> - 2 cloves of garlic                        - 1 half cup mushrooms
>> ends and pieces
>> - 1 half pound italian sausage    - 1 can tomato paste
>> - 2 tbsp oregano                           - 3 tbsp Parmesan cheese
>> grated
>> - a pinch of ?                                  - ? tbsp shortening
>> - 1 cup flour                                   - 1 tsp olive oil
>> But no mixing instructions? no baking instructions? no fennel
>>
>
> I guess you have to watch the episode for more instructions.
>
> Meantime, put all ingredients in a bowl and mix well,  Spread it out on
> a cookie sheet and back until it is solid enough to eat.

Hogan's Heros, really?! It's a rather ridiculous thing to think
prisoners of war in Germany were making pizzas.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

Was there anything about Hogans Heroes that was not ridiculous?

[dsi1]

You might want to avoid any Kentucky Fried Chicken joints too!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-8763609/Man-instantly-sick-eating-half-KFC-burger-without-realising-uncooked.html

[Bryan Simmons]

Germany's alliance with Italy *would* explain the availability of the Italian sausage
and Parmesan cheese
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123829&page=1

--Bryan

[Gary]

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Was there anything about Hogans Heroes that was not ridiculous?

Why not? It was a sitcom. Sgt. Shultz was pretty cool.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah. It was kinda funny that a guy with such a clean cut image was
actually quite the pervert.

[Transition Zone]

Who isn't?

[Bryan Simmons]

Some folks consider sex addiction, or even mere hypersexuality, as perverse.
The way I see it, consensual sex that isn't particularly exploitative, in any
quantity, is fine, and I say that as a French vanilla heterosexual who has seldom
strayed outside committed serial pair bonds, in spite of having issues with
hypersexuality. If a person is not hurting others in pursuit of sexual delights, I'm
not going to call that person a pervert.

--Bryan

[Sheldon Martin]

Anyone who is not enjoying as much consensual sex as possible is the
pervert, and the legal age of consent should be fourteen.

[Gary]

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> Anyone who is not enjoying as much consensual sex as possible is the
> pervert, and the legal age of consent should be fourteen.

eh-oh. We've got your number now.
What about your 70-some year old wife?
Are you ready for some very young "strange" now?

[bruce bowser]

Well Jill, I watched the whole HH "Pizza Parlor" episode, but they made the pizza without showing how and then they showed guy having it with wine. I wonder: what kind of wine is supposed to go with Italian sausage pizza? It looked dark red.

[Pamela]

Others say that describes a sexual pervert according to this definition:

"The definition of a pervert is a person with abnormal sexual behavior.
An example of a pervert is someone who peeks into his or her neighbor's
bathroom."

[Bryan Simmons]

A person who does that is both not respecting consent, and risking
emotional harm to the neighbor. It would be correct to call that person
a pervert. As for norms, FUCK YOUR NORMS.

"FUCK YOUR MORALS"
-- Oksana Shachko

And while we're on that topic:

************
"Winter, you know I hate patriarchy as much as you do."
"And that's not unusual?"
"I don't think it's rare for a man to love women, and the social justice thing, so many men have that."
"Yes, but you're really militant about it. When I saw that Femen shirt, I about fell out. You know, they
wouldn't approve at all of our arrangement, but I was a free woman, and I still am. Hey, which one's
your favorite?"
"Which one what?"
"The Femen chicks, your biggest crush."
"Who said anything about crushes? I think they kick ass, and I agree with much of their ideology, though
I think they go overboard with the over-sexualization, and religion stuff, but I attribute that to them being
Soviet; Marxian Materialism and the strange relations between the Orthodox Church and state, the church
being frowned upon in Soviet times and far too cozied under the oligarchs."
"I got about half of what you said."
"That's why you should go back to school."
"So I can be a rich woman with a thorough understanding of Karl Marx?"
"Yes. And I do love the way they fight. I just admire them."
"Of course you do, but there are quite a few of them who are seriously beautiful. So who? Sasha? Maybe
Oksana?"
"I'm not even dignifying that with a denial."
"You probably think they're the two sexiest women on the planet."
"No, that would be you and Ann."
"What would you do if you got a call from me saying I'd ripped my shirt off and gotten arrested?"
"What kind of question is that? Of course, I'd post bond and get you the best lawyer. Why? Are you planning
to do that?"
"No."
"So this is like the anchovy kiss question."
"Pretty much."
************

There are those anchovies again.

--Bryan

[Pamela]

Zzzzz! Er, wazzat? I fell asleep after the first line.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 15:31:38 +0100, Pamela <pamela...@gmail.com>
wrote:

If the neighbor is a good looking woman or man, depending on one's
persuation I'd say that's perfectly normal behavior... the person
being peeped on may even consider it commendable behavior.
If someone is in their bathroom with their window wide open in clear
view of the windows accross the way one could say the one being peeped
on is hoping to be peeped on. Normal people are quite aware that they
are making it easy to be peeped on. When I was 13 years old I'd visit
a school chum who lived in an apartment building. Bathrooms and
bedrooms were all one above the other. I showed him how to make a
periscope from a cardboard tube and mirrors. We painted our tube
black so it was nearly invisable at night, the apartment above was lit
up like a circus midway. We spent months peeping on the pretty lady
above. One day she moved and an old man moved in, fun was over.

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye, tell us the story about yoose fucking yoose aunt, and yoose
mother-in-law. It never gets old.

[Pamela]

You were protected by your youth because such behaviour in an adult would
be a perversion and likely to be breaking the law. It's typical of sexual
offenders to blame the victim, as you do with "Normal people are quite

aware that they are making it easy to be peeped on".

Normal people do not anticipate deviant behaviour requiring blacked out
periscopes.

[jmcquown]

On 9/25/2020 8:57 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> Anyone who is not enjoying as much consensual sex as possible is the
> pervert, and the legal age of consent should be fourteen.
>

Is that what you'd have said to your daughter? "Go for it, girl, you're
14!" "Hey, boys, she's 14! No doubt she's horny and willing." I hope
you know how UTTERLY STUPID that sounds.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Pbbbbt! There is nothing "normal", much less "commednable" about
peeping in someone's windows.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 9/25/2020 9:14 AM, Gary wrote:
> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> Anyone who is not enjoying as much consensual sex as possible is the
>> pervert, and the legal age of consent should be fourteen.
>
> eh-oh. We've got your number now.

Now? LOL

> What about your 70-some year old wife?

She's rarely home.

> Are you ready for some very young "strange" now?
>

He's likely to find something very "strange" out in the field. ;)

Jill

[Bruce]

On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:33:40 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

"A little lattiude, please." (Jill)

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 jmcquown wrote:

My daughter is now in her 50s, she's been having sex since 15 that I
know about, could have been earlier. If you think young teens aren't
having sex do you know how utterly stupid you sound? It's very good
that you've never had children. It's illegal to keep one's children
caged like zoo animals. I know for a fact that many girls start
having sex at 11-12. Many 11 year olds become pregnant and have
abortions, quite common. Many have their babies and the school nurse
advises them about how to have them adopted. You haven't a clue about
what goes on in the real world... you live on Fantasy Island.

[jmcquown]

On 9/27/2020 5:13 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 jmcquown wrote:
>> On 9/25/2020 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone who is not enjoying as much consensual sex as possible is the
>>> pervert, and the legal age of consent should be fourteen.
>>>
>> Is that what you'd have said to your daughter? "Go for it, girl, you're
>> 14!" "Hey, boys, she's 14! No doubt she's horny and willing." I hope
>> you know how UTTERLY STUPID that sounds.
>>
>> Jill
>
> My daughter is now in her 50s, she's been having sex since 15 that I
> know about, could have been earlier. If you think young teens aren't
> having sex do you know how utterly stupid you sound?

I certainly deny teens don't have sex. I just don't post saying "legal
age should be 14". Age has nothing to do with maturity. Immature age
and ignorance has plenty to do with teenage pregnancy.

> It's very good
> that you've never had children. It's illegal to keep one's children
> caged like zoo animals. I know for a fact that many girls start
> having sex at 11-12. Many 11 year olds become pregnant and have
> abortions, quite common. Many have their babies and the school nurse
> advises them about how to have them adopted. You haven't a clue about
> what goes on in the real world... you live on Fantasy Island.
>

You're talking like a crazy person. I've been exposed to all the same
news programs you have. You said the legal age of consent should be age
14. Sheldon, I remember myself at age 14. Like most teenagers I
thought I knew everything but no way in hell was I mature enough to be
of "legal age". My choice, sure but mature? NOPE. Maturity is an
entirely different thing from horny teenagers.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 9/27/2020 5:49 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/27/2020 5:13 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 9/25/2020 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who is not enjoying as much consensual sex as possible is the
>>>> pervert, and the legal age of consent should be fourteen.
>>>>
>>> Is that what you'd have said to your daughter?  "Go for it, girl, you're
>>> 14!" "Hey, boys, she's 14!  No doubt she's horny and willing."  I hope
>>> you know how UTTERLY STUPID that sounds.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> My daughter is now in her 50s, she's been having sex since 15 that I
>> know about, could have been earlier.  If you think young teens aren't
>> having sex do you know how utterly stupid you sound?
>

> CORRECTION: I certainly *DON'T* deny teens have sex.  I just don't post stupid stuff saying "legal

> age should be 14".  Age has nothing to do with maturity.  Immature age

> and ignorance has plenty to do with teenage pregnancy which your own arguments confirm.

Jill

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 18:07:20 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Unfortunately you don't realize that mental maturity hasn't a whit to
do with physical maturity... the physical urges are far more powerful
than the mental, especially with young teens... otherwise there'd be
no need for The Pill. Most young teen girls are on The Pill... if
their parents have a functioning brain they make sure. A lot of nine
year old girls are on The Pill because they are sexually active. The
school nurses are very aware, they don't like dealing with pre teen
pregnancies which are rampent. When a nine year old girl begins
menstrating and needs a bra the school nurse contacts the parent for a
meeting. My wife tells me that there are many preteens who come to
school wearing a tee shirt who need a larger bra than their mom.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 5:07:30 PM UTC-5, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
> On 9/27/2020 5:49 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 9/27/2020 5:13 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >> On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 jmcquown wrote:
> >>> On 9/25/2020 Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone who is not enjoying as much consensual sex as possible is the
> >>>> pervert, and the legal age of consent should be fourteen.

Sheldon, I am easily as hypersexual as you, but I never felt that I, or anyone else, should
pursue "as much consensual sex as possible," and folks who feel that way are the reason
that we need governmental controls on sexual interactions. I shied away from sexual
activity that I thought might be harmful to the other person, especially any sex that
could have resulted in pregnancy.

> >>>>
> >>> Is that what you'd have said to your daughter? "Go for it, girl, you're
> >>> 14!" "Hey, boys, she's 14! No doubt she's horny and willing." I hope
> >>> you know how UTTERLY STUPID that sounds.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> My daughter is now in her 50s, she's been having sex since 15 that I
> >> know about, could have been earlier. If you think young teens aren't
> >> having sex do you know how utterly stupid you sound?
> >
> > CORRECTION: I certainly *DON'T* deny teens have sex. I just don't post stupid stuff saying "legal
> > age should be 14". Age has nothing to do with maturity. Immature age
> > and ignorance has plenty to do with teenage pregnancy which your own arguments confirm.

You wrote, "Age has nothing to do with maturity," then immediately used the phrase, "immature age."
I was mature enough at 14 to never engage in potentially reproductive sex. A problem is that the
most anti-sex folks also promote ignorance. They are against comprehensive sex education.
Their focus is on morality, rather than practicality or utilitarian ethics. They push abstinence
coupled with ignorance because they believe in their patriarchal mythology.

>
> Jill

--Bryan

[Bruce]

On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:16:41 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 5:07:30 PM UTC-5, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
>> On 9/27/2020 5:49 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> > On 9/27/2020 5:13 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 jmcquown wrote:
>> >>> On 9/25/2020 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anyone who is not enjoying as much consensual sex as possible is the
>> >>>> pervert, and the legal age of consent should be fourteen.
>
>Sheldon, I am easily as hypersexual as you, but I never felt that I, or anyone else, should
>pursue "as much consensual sex as possible," and folks who feel that way are the reason
>that we need governmental controls on sexual interactions.

Are you saying you want permission from President Pussygrabber before
you have sex?

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 19:27:42 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>

Sheldon, please stop talking about teen and pre-teen girls and sex.
You are making me sick. I don't understand why a normal, healthy male
of your age would have any interest in discussing this subject.
This is just slimy.
Janet US

[Hank Rogers]

Hell, he probably screwed her himself. Just like his aunt and
mother-in-law.

[Hank Rogers]

Sniff (Druce)

[Hank Rogers]

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 jmcquown wrote:
>> On 9/25/2020 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone who is not enjoying as much consensual sex as possible is the
>>> pervert, and the legal age of consent should be fourteen.
>>>
>> Is that what you'd have said to your daughter? "Go for it, girl, you're
>> 14!" "Hey, boys, she's 14! No doubt she's horny and willing." I hope
>> you know how UTTERLY STUPID that sounds.
>>
>> Jill
>
> My daughter is now in her 50s, she's been having sex since 15 that I
> know about, could have been earlier. If you think young teens aren't
> having sex do you know how utterly stupid you sound? It's very good
> that you've never had children. It's illegal to keep one's children
> caged like zoo animals. I know for a fact that many girls start
> having sex at 11-12. Many 11 year olds become pregnant and have
> abortions, quite common.
>

How many abortions have yoose performed Popeye?

[Gary]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> Sheldon, please stop talking about teen and pre-teen girls and sex.
> You are making me sick. I don't understand why a normal, healthy male
> of your age would have any interest in discussing this subject.
> This is just slimy.

Maybe he'll get busted someday for downloading child porn.
Hopefully, he's not that dumb.

Raising a teen girl can be a handful once they think they
know everything. A good parent(s) has to often be the "rat"
and not agree with their nonsense.

Old joke:
"God invented teenage girls so the parents won't miss
them so much once they grow up and leave home."

[Sheldon Martin]

My wife comes home every day after teaching at school with new horror
stories of preteen pregnant girls. The school nurse has to hear about
how many of those girls don't know how they got pregnant and then
needs to meet with the parents, usually just one, the mother who's not
much of a mother nor at all cooperative because it's one of her
boyfriends who's paying their rent. Often the girl's mother was no
older than the girl when she was born. Just when you think you've
heard everything it gets juicier, a lot juicier. And these are not
always poor people on welfare, often quite well to do.

[Dave Smith]

A couple years ago I was chatting with a woman in the kayak club about
generations, how many there are in a century, or how many generations it
would take to go back a couple hundred years. She was shocked at a
comment that I made and said is was really bad, but that she could not
disagree with it. I said that it depends on the type of family, whether
they came from a family of doctors and lawyers or if we were talking
about a welfare family. Some of the children of welfare families are
grandmothers before the daughters of the more affluent have their first
child.

[Transition Zone]

On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 09:05:55 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >>
> >> Sheldon, please stop talking about teen and pre-teen girls and sex.
> >> You are making me sick. I don't understand why a normal, healthy male
> >> of your age would have any interest in discussing this subject.
> >> This is just slimy.
> >
> >Maybe he'll get busted someday for downloading child porn.
> >Hopefully, he's not that dumb.
> >
> >Raising a teen girl can be a handful once they think they
> >know everything. A good parent(s) has to often be the "rat"
> >and not agree with their nonsense.
> >
> >Old joke:
> >"God invented teenage girls so the parents won't miss
> > them so much once they grow up and leave home."
>
> My wife comes home every day after teaching at school with new horror
> stories of preteen pregnant girls.

That's a laughable question to ask her: Which is worse? The horror you hear about? or the horror you don't hear about?

> The school nurse has to hear about
> how many of those girls don't know how they got pregnant and then
> needs to meet with the parents, usually just one, the mother who's not
> much of a mother nor at all cooperative because it's one of her
> boyfriends who's paying their rent. Often the girl's mother was no
> older than the girl when she was born. Just when you think you've
> heard everything it gets juicier, a lot juicier. And these are not
> always poor people on welfare, often quite well to do.

That's maybe because the Hennessy Bras Armé Cognac, or whatever, flows a little easier. I wonder if this was illustrated by the last 10 minutes of the Hogan's Heroes episode called: 'The Great Brinksmeyer Robbery' (Season 2 Episode 18). Getting a girl drunk and passed out.

[jmcquown]

On 9/27/2020 9:23 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> Sheldon, please stop talking about teen and pre-teen girls and sex.
> You are making me sick. I don't understand why a normal, healthy male
> of your age would have any interest in discussing this subject.
> This is just slimy.
> Janet US
>

Thank you, Janet. I'm sorry I even bothered to try to contradict such
slimy statements as "legal age should be 14". Mea culpa.

Jill

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:52:06 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Understood. No problem.