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U.S. Janet B.
Dec 16, 2018, 2:53:45 PM12/16/18
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for out Sunday
>family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for bell pepper
>and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell peppers. The carrot
>does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of the more
>colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a particularly good
>substitute for green bell papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good
>green bell pepper sub?
No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out of her
food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit. After all,
when she grows up other people will prepare dishes that contain bell
peppers.
>My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for out Sunday
>family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for bell pepper
>and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell peppers. The carrot
>does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of the more
>colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a particularly good
>substitute for green bell papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good
>green bell pepper sub?
No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out of her
food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit. After all,
when she grows up other people will prepare dishes that contain bell
peppers.
penm...@aol.com
Dec 16, 2018, 3:35:47 PM12/16/18
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 "l not -l" wrote:
>
>My daughter does not eat bell peppers.
The important question is why not? Is it an allergy?
>
>My daughter does not eat bell peppers.
>In preparing dishes for out Sunday
>family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for bell pepper
>and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell peppers. The carrot
>does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of the more
>colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a particularly good
>substitute for green bell papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good
>green bell pepper sub?
she doesn't like then it makes absolutely no sense to substitute with
a different bitter vegetable... like endive... simply omit the green
pepper. And why do you feel compelled to alter whatever it is you're
preparing, simply cook the dish without greenpepper or tell her to
pick out the green peppers from her portion... how old is she...
sounds like a three year old.
A substitution would depend on the recipe, however there's an enormous
quantity of green vegetables... perhaps peas, celery. greenbeans,
green onions, okra? Hehe, I'd use all those in a soup.
songbird
Dec 16, 2018, 3:45:59 PM12/16/18
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l not -l wrote:
> My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for out Sunday
so some bits of raw cabbage?
songbird
> My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for out Sunday
> family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for bell pepper
> and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell peppers. The carrot
> does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of the more
> colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a particularly good
> substitute for green bell papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> green bell pepper sub?
some people say cabbage has a bitter taste to it
> and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell peppers. The carrot
> does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of the more
> colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a particularly good
> substitute for green bell papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> green bell pepper sub?
so some bits of raw cabbage?
songbird
Sqwertz
Dec 16, 2018, 3:52:48 PM12/16/18
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:23:20 GMT, l not -l wrote:
> She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical condition.
>
> Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
Wasn't she experimenting with vegetarianism, too?
I think a lot of us are desensitized to food whims by that
adulteress from Planet Bothell.
ObFood: Pesto Meatball Cheesesteak on French bread for lunch. With
onions, peppers, and provolone and Genovese pesto mayo.
-sw
>
> Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
Wasn't she experimenting with vegetarianism, too?
I think a lot of us are desensitized to food whims by that
adulteress from Planet Bothell.
ObFood: Pesto Meatball Cheesesteak on French bread for lunch. With
onions, peppers, and provolone and Genovese pesto mayo.
-sw
notbob
Dec 16, 2018, 4:19:31 PM12/16/18
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On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical condition.
Then she is old enough to know how to pick the green peppers out or not
> She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical condition.
eat the dish.
What? I gotta come up with a new variation on "red beans" cuz the
woman is too lazy to pick out the peppers .....or avoid the dish!
Good luck, with that! ;)
nb
Julie Bove
Dec 16, 2018, 4:35:38 PM12/16/18
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was a restaurant or salad bar.
Julie Bove
Dec 16, 2018, 4:37:49 PM12/16/18
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"l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote in message
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> She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical condition.
>
>
> Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
I don't know her reason for avoiding the, but people with arthritis often
avoid nightshades and wheat. Angela willl eat red bell peppers but no other
color but obviously here, subbing another color isn't an option.
Julie Bove
Dec 16, 2018, 4:38:30 PM12/16/18
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Julie Bove
Dec 16, 2018, 4:40:01 PM12/16/18
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Ed Pawlowski
Dec 16, 2018, 4:53:23 PM12/16/18
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On 12/16/2018 12:33 PM, l not -l wrote:
> My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for out Sunday
for two reasons, I don't care for the flavor and they repeat on me for
hours.
The other colors are just fine and I eat them often. If your daughter
has not tried the others, she may be pleasantly surprised.
> My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for out Sunday
> family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for bell pepper
> and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell peppers. The carrot
> does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of the more
> colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a particularly good
> substitute for green bell papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> green bell pepper sub?
>
Red, yellow, orange peppers. I personally will not eat the green ones
> and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell peppers. The carrot
> does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of the more
> colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a particularly good
> substitute for green bell papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> green bell pepper sub?
>
for two reasons, I don't care for the flavor and they repeat on me for
hours.
The other colors are just fine and I eat them often. If your daughter
has not tried the others, she may be pleasantly surprised.
Cheri
Dec 16, 2018, 5:01:10 PM12/16/18
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"l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote in message
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> Folks, if you aren't asking for clarification and don't have an answer,
> just
> STFU and don't piss in my Bran Flakes.
That would be truly great!!! Same goes for foods that others don't like, no
reason to go on and on about how awful it tastes, how "50's" it is, what a
fool you are for even liking it, it's old fart food, posting the ingredient
list and so on, just_______as you say. :)
Cheri
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> Folks, if you aren't asking for clarification and don't have an answer,
> just
> STFU and don't piss in my Bran Flakes.
That would be truly great!!! Same goes for foods that others don't like, no
reason to go on and on about how awful it tastes, how "50's" it is, what a
fool you are for even liking it, it's old fart food, posting the ingredient
list and so on, just_______as you say. :)
Cheri
Sqwertz
Dec 16, 2018, 5:05:25 PM12/16/18
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:38:22 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "Sqwertz" <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
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>> I think a lot of us are desensitized to food whims by that
>> adulteress from Planet Bothell.
>>
>> ObFood: Pesto Meatball Cheesesteak on French bread for lunch. With
>> onions, peppers, and provolone and Genovese pesto mayo.
>
> OMFG!
Yeah, they were pretty awesome. Demi baguettes made by the French
>> adulteress from Planet Bothell.
>>
>> ObFood: Pesto Meatball Cheesesteak on French bread for lunch. With
>> onions, peppers, and provolone and Genovese pesto mayo.
>
> OMFG!
in Quebec. 4 1oz meatballs on each sandwich.
https://i.postimg.cc/02VR88KJ/Sandwich-Pesto-Meatball-Cheesesteaks.jpg
-sw
Bruce
Dec 16, 2018, 5:15:21 PM12/16/18
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 14:00:20 -0800, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:
Hey, stop criticising me. It's almost Christmas! :)
And I only call Sheldon's food "50s". That's nothing in comparison
with what he tells and calls people here, which you never seem to
mind.
So smoke that.
wrote:
And I only call Sheldon's food "50s". That's nothing in comparison
with what he tells and calls people here, which you never seem to
mind.
So smoke that.
Dave Smith
Dec 16, 2018, 5:17:20 PM12/16/18
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>> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out of her
>> food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit. After all,
>> when she grows up other people will prepare dishes that contain bell
>> peppers.
>> food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit. After all,
>> when she grows up other people will prepare dishes that contain bell
>> peppers.
> She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical condition.
>
> Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
Really? How was she to know that your daughter is 39 and has a medical
>
> Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
condition that prevents her from eating bell pepper? You could have
explained that without snapping.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Dec 16, 2018, 6:22:11 PM12/16/18
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dream of someone altering a dish because I don't like them or because of
a medical condition. I'd just pick them out or better yet, just pass on
the dish(es) that contain them. So I think everyone else's suggestion of
picking them out is the best solution, too.
Dave Smith
Dec 16, 2018, 6:37:53 PM12/16/18
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On 2018-12-16 6:22 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
>>
>> Really? How was she to know that your daughter is 39 and has a medical
>> condition that prevents her from eating bell pepper? You could have
>> explained that without snapping.
>>
> I don't care for red, green, or the yellow bell peppers. But I wouldn't
> dream of someone altering a dish because I don't like them or because of
> a medical condition. I'd just pick them out or better yet, just pass on
> the dish(es) that contain them. So I think everyone else's suggestion of
> picking them out is the best solution, too.
I like them all, though I am not thrilled about green peppers cooked in
>>> Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
>>
>> Really? How was she to know that your daughter is 39 and has a medical
>> condition that prevents her from eating bell pepper? You could have
>> explained that without snapping.
>>
> I don't care for red, green, or the yellow bell peppers. But I wouldn't
> dream of someone altering a dish because I don't like them or because of
> a medical condition. I'd just pick them out or better yet, just pass on
> the dish(es) that contain them. So I think everyone else's suggestion of
> picking them out is the best solution, too.
things other than stir fries. Personally, I don't understand why
someone would want to cook a dish that calls for bell peppers for
someone who doesn't eat them. I agree that picking them out would be a
good way to deal with the problem. I didn't bother making any
suggestions because I was too much of a Julie type of question. I just
took offense to someone being dumped on for not knowing that it was an
adult you would not eat them and that they was a medical reason. How
were we to know?
U.S. Janet B.
Dec 16, 2018, 7:01:44 PM12/16/18
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:28:46 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>Not vegetarianism; but, there are meat restrictions. She is an outdoors
>person, equestrian, farrier and hoof rehabilitation specialist. She
>contracted a disease a few years back, a specialist said it was a form of
>persistent lyme disease. Some foods, bell peppers and red meat among them,
>cause temporary recurrence of some symptoms she experienced at the peak of
>the illness. So, she avoids bell peppers and eats mostly fish and fowl for
>protein. My son and I like cajun/creole food, which are great fish and fowl
>dishes; they would be good to have for our Sunday family meals, but, of
>course, pretty much always have green bell pepper. The green pepper could
>be left out; but, it's there for a reason, however subtle.
>
>Silly me; I momentarily forgot that you can't ask a simple question on RFC
>and expect a simple answer or to be ignored if the answer unknown. After
>years on RFC, I should have known I'd a bunch of uninformed lectures, such
>as from US JB that did nothing to address the question asked.
>
>Perhaps with the above clarification, I might get a relevant eanswer. Of
>course, there will also be the know-it-all, "lyme disease doesn't exist" or
>"it's all in her head" or other dumb-ass, unhelpfull responses.
about age or disease limitations. Your fault.
>person, equestrian, farrier and hoof rehabilitation specialist. She
>contracted a disease a few years back, a specialist said it was a form of
>persistent lyme disease. Some foods, bell peppers and red meat among them,
>cause temporary recurrence of some symptoms she experienced at the peak of
>the illness. So, she avoids bell peppers and eats mostly fish and fowl for
>protein. My son and I like cajun/creole food, which are great fish and fowl
>dishes; they would be good to have for our Sunday family meals, but, of
>course, pretty much always have green bell pepper. The green pepper could
>be left out; but, it's there for a reason, however subtle.
>
>Silly me; I momentarily forgot that you can't ask a simple question on RFC
>and expect a simple answer or to be ignored if the answer unknown. After
>years on RFC, I should have known I'd a bunch of uninformed lectures, such
>as from US JB that did nothing to address the question asked.
>
>Perhaps with the above clarification, I might get a relevant eanswer. Of
>course, there will also be the know-it-all, "lyme disease doesn't exist" or
>"it's all in her head" or other dumb-ass, unhelpfull responses.
>
>Folks, if you aren't asking for clarification and don't have an answer, just
>STFU and don't piss in my Bran Flakes.
your question as posed got the answer it deserved. You said nothing
>Folks, if you aren't asking for clarification and don't have an answer, just
>STFU and don't piss in my Bran Flakes.
about age or disease limitations. Your fault.
penm...@aol.com
Dec 16, 2018, 7:04:17 PM12/16/18
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:23:20 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>
>On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical condition.
If you weren't afflicted with a psycological condition you would have
said so from the on set... there's is definitely something wrong with
your brain. You are sicker than your adult daughter... the acorn
doesn't fall far from the tree.
penm...@aol.com
Dec 16, 2018, 7:09:41 PM12/16/18
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Bruce
Dec 16, 2018, 7:23:49 PM12/16/18
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 19:09:37 -0500, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:39:53 -0800, "Julie Bove"
><juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>><penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>
>On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:39:53 -0800, "Julie Bove"
><juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>><penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> If there's no medical reason and it's the bitterness of green pepper
>>> she doesn't like then it makes absolutely no sense to substitute with
>>> a different bitter vegetable... like endive... simply omit the green
>>> pepper. And why do you feel compelled to alter whatever it is you're
>>> preparing, simply cook the dish without greenpepper or tell her to
>>> pick out the green peppers from her portion... how old is she...
>>> sounds like a three year old.
>>>
>>> A substitution would depend on the recipe, however there's an enormous
>>> quantity of green vegetables... perhaps peas, celery. greenbeans,
>>> green onions, okra? Hehe, I'd use all those in a soup.
>>
>>There are many medical reasons to avoid peppers.
>
>I can't think of any other than mental disdunction.
I know someone who's allergic to the skin of bell peppers. She doesn't
>>> she doesn't like then it makes absolutely no sense to substitute with
>>> a different bitter vegetable... like endive... simply omit the green
>>> pepper. And why do you feel compelled to alter whatever it is you're
>>> preparing, simply cook the dish without greenpepper or tell her to
>>> pick out the green peppers from her portion... how old is she...
>>> sounds like a three year old.
>>>
>>> A substitution would depend on the recipe, however there's an enormous
>>> quantity of green vegetables... perhaps peas, celery. greenbeans,
>>> green onions, okra? Hehe, I'd use all those in a soup.
>>
>>There are many medical reasons to avoid peppers.
>
>I can't think of any other than mental disdunction.
drop dead or anything, but her face swells up etc. She avoids them
altogether.
Dave Smith
Dec 16, 2018, 7:32:10 PM12/16/18
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Bruce
Dec 16, 2018, 8:42:58 PM12/16/18
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>
>On 16-Dec-2018, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> If you weren't afflicted with a psycological condition you would have
>> said so from the on set... there's is definitely something wrong with
>> your brain. You are sicker than your adult daughter... the acorn
>> doesn't fall far from the tree.
>Ouch; that would have hurt - if I had any respect for your opinion. But, I
>don't. I do wonder what kind of mother raised you; is she horribly
>disappointed or are you made in her image?
Or both. "Oh God, he's just like me."
>
>On 16-Dec-2018, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> If you weren't afflicted with a psycological condition you would have
>> said so from the on set... there's is definitely something wrong with
>> your brain. You are sicker than your adult daughter... the acorn
>> doesn't fall far from the tree.
>don't. I do wonder what kind of mother raised you; is she horribly
>disappointed or are you made in her image?
Or both. "Oh God, he's just like me."
Doris Night
Dec 16, 2018, 9:52:29 PM12/16/18
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so I know pepper avoidance is a real thing. However,it can be a bit of
a problem for her. As far as I know, she doesn't eat any peppers of
any colour. That, along with her gluten, dairy, and egg allergies,
she's pretty limited. When they come here for dinner, I only feed her
plain meat and salad.
Doris
Dave Smith
Dec 16, 2018, 10:37:29 PM12/16/18
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On 2018-12-16 8:18 p.m., l not -l wrote:
> what you say in defense matters; it was a unhelpful response, based upon
> assumptions not in evidence. If I wanted to make a different dish, I would
> have done it, not asked about substitution. She just wanted to feel
> superior and be bitchy.
>
I guess I was the decent human being for a change. I didn't bother
replying with suggestions. I only objected to the way you snapped at
Janet over something she cold not have known.
> On 16-Dec-2018, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Really? How was she to know that your daughter is 39 and has a medical
>> condition that prevents her from eating bell pepper? You could have
>> explained that without snapping.
> OR, she could have been a decent human being and just not replied. None of
>> Really? How was she to know that your daughter is 39 and has a medical
>> condition that prevents her from eating bell pepper? You could have
>> explained that without snapping.
> what you say in defense matters; it was a unhelpful response, based upon
> assumptions not in evidence. If I wanted to make a different dish, I would
> have done it, not asked about substitution. She just wanted to feel
> superior and be bitchy.
>
I guess I was the decent human being for a change. I didn't bother
replying with suggestions. I only objected to the way you snapped at
Janet over something she cold not have known.
Ophelia
Dec 17, 2018, 2:48:53 AM12/17/18
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"Cheri" wrote in message news:pv6ht...@news3.newsguy.com...
It would indeed be truly great!
Ophelia
Dec 17, 2018, 2:48:53 AM12/17/18
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"l not -l" wrote in message news:pv6i84$uhm$1...@dont-email.me...
you didn't even use your best "aw shucks" taterhead dialect.
Unlike some, rather than being a selfish oaf, I try to be mindful and
empathetic to the needs of others.
==
It occurs to me that having the peppers cooked with the dish would
'contaminate' the rest of the dish?
I can't really see that taking them out after cooking would remove the
danger to her medical condition.
If that makes any sense?
Ophelia
Dec 17, 2018, 2:56:51 AM12/17/18
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But he did say she couldn't have them because of a medical condition.
Bruce
Dec 17, 2018, 3:15:59 AM12/17/18
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 07:43:33 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
How can you talk about cooking if you can't talk about ingredients?
wrote:
Ophelia
Dec 17, 2018, 6:30:30 AM12/17/18
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I can and do! They just might not be the same ingredients as are in the
recipe:))
U.S. Janet B.
Dec 17, 2018, 9:03:01 AM12/17/18
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Ophelia
Dec 17, 2018, 10:18:55 AM12/17/18
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
Ok maybe I have missed something. I don't always get them all.
penm...@aol.com
Dec 17, 2018, 12:24:11 PM12/17/18
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 16:37:52 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>You are correct. The minute the are heated, they will begin to release
>their liquid and all the nutrients it carries. Also, in many dishes, cooked
>peppers "melt" into the dish and, often, are no longer identifiable.
I'd like to know what medical condition precludes green bell peppers
but allows eating the other colored bell peppers... I've never heard
of such a thing unless it's a psychiatric medical condition that a
good fanny licking won't cure.
The only difference between green bell pepper and other colored bell
pepper is that the other colored ones are riper and so contain more
sugar, otherwise they are all the same bell pepper.
>their liquid and all the nutrients it carries. Also, in many dishes, cooked
>peppers "melt" into the dish and, often, are no longer identifiable.
I'd like to know what medical condition precludes green bell peppers
but allows eating the other colored bell peppers... I've never heard
of such a thing unless it's a psychiatric medical condition that a
good fanny licking won't cure.
The only difference between green bell pepper and other colored bell
pepper is that the other colored ones are riper and so contain more
sugar, otherwise they are all the same bell pepper.
Bruce
Dec 17, 2018, 1:24:28 PM12/17/18
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wrote:
True, the recipe's just a starting point.
wrote:
Ophelia
Dec 17, 2018, 3:10:57 PM12/17/18
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In my case .... usually <g>
Hank Rogers
Dec 17, 2018, 3:18:53 PM12/17/18
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BTW, yoose fanny licking is called "felching".
penm...@aol.com
Dec 17, 2018, 4:22:32 PM12/17/18
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 18:52:06 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>Your morning delirium tremens are causing you to hallucinate facts not in
>evidence. I said she does not eat bell peppers and that I have a workable
>substitute for the sweeter, riper bell peppers. I asked for a substitute
>for green because I did not have a workable substitute for the bitter
>back-note of green. When you have sufficiently recovered, or are drunk
>again, go back and read my original post if you don't believe the above
>recap.
Your Subj. line says Sub for GREEN bell pepper, and since we now know
it's to appease a medical condition that you refuse to describe it
cannot be other than a psychiatric condition... AKA Spoiled Brat
Syndrome. My sister wouldn't eat green bell peppers but she could pig
out on Holland red bell peppers at more than double the cost... she
was psychotic about being thought a peon, especially when someone else
was paying. Our sister was always treated special because she was a
girl and the youngest by ten years... we two boys got spankings but
not her... she truned out a thief, a druggie, and on welfare.
>evidence. I said she does not eat bell peppers and that I have a workable
>substitute for the sweeter, riper bell peppers. I asked for a substitute
>for green because I did not have a workable substitute for the bitter
>back-note of green. When you have sufficiently recovered, or are drunk
>again, go back and read my original post if you don't believe the above
>recap.
Your Subj. line says Sub for GREEN bell pepper, and since we now know
it's to appease a medical condition that you refuse to describe it
cannot be other than a psychiatric condition... AKA Spoiled Brat
Syndrome. My sister wouldn't eat green bell peppers but she could pig
out on Holland red bell peppers at more than double the cost... she
was psychotic about being thought a peon, especially when someone else
was paying. Our sister was always treated special because she was a
girl and the youngest by ten years... we two boys got spankings but
not her... she truned out a thief, a druggie, and on welfare.
cshenk
Dec 17, 2018, 4:33:44 PM12/17/18
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U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>
> > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for out
> > Sunday family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls
> > for bell pepper and generally substitute carrot for red or orange
> > bell peppers. The carrot does a fine job substituting for the
> > color and sweetness of the more colorful bell peppers. However, I
> > have not found a particularly good substitute for green bell
> > papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good green bell pepper
> > sub?
>
> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out of her
> food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit. After all,
> when she grows up other people will prepare dishes that contain bell
> peppers.
Hi Janet, this could be allergy related.
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>
> > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for out
> > Sunday family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls
> > for bell pepper and generally substitute carrot for red or orange
> > bell peppers. The carrot does a fine job substituting for the
> > color and sweetness of the more colorful bell peppers. However, I
> > have not found a particularly good substitute for green bell
> > papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good green bell pepper
> > sub?
>
> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out of her
> food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit. After all,
> when she grows up other people will prepare dishes that contain bell
> peppers.
l not -l, I've not found bell peppers 'bitter' but I can think of 3
things that *might* work in careful moderation. Daikon radish, a very
MILD radish by USA standards. American eggplant (the big ones).
Bitter melon (looks like a cucucmber with serious goosebumps). For the
bitter melon, you'd only use a tiny amount. If it freezes and defrosts
usably (I do not know), then ou may want to cut it to thin rounds and
freeze in wax paper so you can peel off just 1-2 for a dish.
cshenk
Dec 17, 2018, 4:39:05 PM12/17/18
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l not -l wrote:
>
> On 16-Dec-2018, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:23:20 GMT, l not -l wrote:
> >
>
> On 16-Dec-2018, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:23:20 GMT, l not -l wrote:
> >
> > > On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes
> > > > > for out Sunday
> > > > > family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for
> > > > > bell pepper
> > > > > and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell
> > > > > peppers. The carrot
> > > > > does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of
> > > > > the more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a
> > > > > particularly good substitute for green bell papper's slight
> > > > > bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> > > > > green bell pepper sub?
> > > >
> > >> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out
> > of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit.
> > After all, >> when she grows up other people will prepare dishes
> > that contain bell >> peppers.
> > >
> > >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes
> > > > > for out Sunday
> > > > > family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for
> > > > > bell pepper
> > > > > and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell
> > > > > peppers. The carrot
> > > > > does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of
> > > > > the more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a
> > > > > particularly good substitute for green bell papper's slight
> > > > > bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> > > > > green bell pepper sub?
> > > >
> > >> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out
> > of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit.
> > After all, >> when she grows up other people will prepare dishes
> > that contain bell >> peppers.
> > > She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical
> > > condition.
> > >
> > > condition.
> > >
> Folks, if you aren't asking for clarification and don't have an
> answer, just STFU and don't piss in my Bran Flakes.
You got one from me (before I saw this since I read in order).
> answer, just STFU and don't piss in my Bran Flakes.
Have you tried File' powder? I seem to recall a faint bitterness.
BTW, if you sometimes need the texture, I think you will find cubed
brocolli stems will work well. Asian types are particularily good just
washed and sprinkled in a salad. I do that all the time because they
cost less here than bell peppers.
cshenk
Dec 17, 2018, 4:42:18 PM12/17/18
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notbob wrote:
> On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>
> > She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical
> > condition.
>
>
> nb
nb, it's a medical issue.
Anyways, gave it a shot, including a texture/color match if that comes
up at times.
> On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>
> > She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical
> > condition.
>
> Then she is old enough to know how to pick the green peppers out or
> not eat the dish.
>
> What? I gotta come up with a new variation on "red beans" cuz the
> woman is too lazy to pick out the peppers .....or avoid the dish!
>
> Good luck, with that! ;)
> not eat the dish.
>
> What? I gotta come up with a new variation on "red beans" cuz the
> woman is too lazy to pick out the peppers .....or avoid the dish!
>
>
> nb
nb, it's a medical issue.
Anyways, gave it a shot, including a texture/color match if that comes
up at times.
cshenk
Dec 17, 2018, 4:48:34 PM12/17/18
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dish. Not when it's a medical issue. Might be like 'picking out the
peanuts' with a peanut allergy person?
cshenk
Dec 17, 2018, 4:52:35 PM12/17/18
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l not -l wrote:
>
> On 16-Dec-2018, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
> > so some bits of raw cabbage?
> Thanks. I just bought a head of cabbage Friday and it has a couple
> of the darker outer leaves still on. I could cut up one of those and
> it would supply the color and, hopefully, the bitter note.
Let us know! If it seems to come a little close, then Kale might be a
go. Also dark larger Bok Choy (full grown, about 9 inches or longer
heads).
carol
>
> On 16-Dec-2018, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
>
> > l not -l wrote:
> > > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for
> > > out Sunday
> > > family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for bell
> > > pepper
> > > and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell peppers.
> > > The carrot
> > > does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of the
> > > more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a
> > > particularly good substitute for green bell papper's slight
> > > bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> > > green bell pepper sub?
> >
> > some people say cabbage has a bitter taste to it
> > l not -l wrote:
> > > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for
> > > out Sunday
> > > family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for bell
> > > pepper
> > > and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell peppers.
> > > The carrot
> > > does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of the
> > > more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a
> > > particularly good substitute for green bell papper's slight
> > > bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> > > green bell pepper sub?
> >
> > so some bits of raw cabbage?
> Thanks. I just bought a head of cabbage Friday and it has a couple
> of the darker outer leaves still on. I could cut up one of those and
> it would supply the color and, hopefully, the bitter note.
Let us know! If it seems to come a little close, then Kale might be a
go. Also dark larger Bok Choy (full grown, about 9 inches or longer
heads).
carol
notbob
Dec 17, 2018, 5:21:25 PM12/17/18
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> On 16-Dec-2018, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>>
>
>> On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical condition.
>>
>>
>> Then she is old enough to know how to pick the green peppers out or not
>> eat the dish.
>>
>> What? I gotta come up with a new variation on "red beans" cuz the
>> woman is too lazy to pick out the peppers .....or avoid the dish!
>> eat the dish.
>>
>> What? I gotta come up with a new variation on "red beans" cuz the
>> woman is too lazy to pick out the peppers .....or avoid the dish!
> Thanks for yet another, unimaginative, unhelpful, dumb-ass response.
Much like yer "mindful" response?
What does the lady do when the menu includes "stuffed bell peppers"?
Explode? I've made red beans plenty o' times w/o peppers. I can
certainly do it again, if the lady asks.
To make it "correctly" calls for the Holy Trinity, which is celery,
bell peppers, and onions. I gotta make it incorrectly and dislike the
dish -- along with any guests that I may be also serving-- cuz one
lady cannot eat green bell pprs. Like I sed, she can "avoid the
dish".
> Unlike some, rather than being a selfish oaf, I try to be mindful and
> empathetic to the needs of others.
in their red beans? You gonna be "empathetic" to my needs?
Never mind. You've already weighed in on that issue. ;)
nb
Wayne Boatwright
Dec 17, 2018, 6:13:21 PM12/17/18
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On Mon 17 Dec 2018 11:52:06a, l not -l told us...
them _and_ because of a medical condition? I can't seem to get the
attribs. straight.
--
~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~
**********************************************************
Wayne Boatwright
> Your morning delirium tremens are causing you to hallucinate facts
> not in evidence. I said she does not eat bell peppers and that I
> have a workable substitute for the sweeter, riper bell peppers. I
> asked for a substitute for green because I did not have a workable
> substitute for the bitter back-note of green. When you have
> sufficiently recovered, or are drunk again, go back and read my
> original post if you don't believe the above recap.
>
>
Was it not you that she does not eat them because she does not like
> not in evidence. I said she does not eat bell peppers and that I
> have a workable substitute for the sweeter, riper bell peppers. I
> asked for a substitute for green because I did not have a workable
> substitute for the bitter back-note of green. When you have
> sufficiently recovered, or are drunk again, go back and read my
> original post if you don't believe the above recap.
>
>
them _and_ because of a medical condition? I can't seem to get the
attribs. straight.
--
~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~
**********************************************************
Wayne Boatwright
Dave Smith
Dec 17, 2018, 7:01:55 PM12/17/18
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On 2018-12-17 6:17 p.m., l not -l wrote:
>
I have issues with nuts and often pick them out of a meal.
> On 17-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I don't think picking them out will work if they have been cooked into
>> dish. Not when it's a medical issue. Might be like 'picking out the
>> peanuts' with a peanut allergy person?
> Or like picking the sugar out of sweet tea. 8-)
>> I don't think picking them out will work if they have been cooked into
>> dish. Not when it's a medical issue. Might be like 'picking out the
>> peanuts' with a peanut allergy person?
>
I have issues with nuts and often pick them out of a meal.
notbob
Dec 17, 2018, 8:15:26 PM12/17/18
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On 12/17/2018 4:42 PM, l not -l wrote:
> you have shown yourself to be someone I would not invite
> into my home, for a meal or otherwise.
You assume I would come.
I ferget, are you a man or a woman or jes an asshole?
My guess is choice number three, as "l not -l" is kinda vague. I've
been watching you, of late, and you really like to stir things up. You
are not against using ad hominem attacks and you always call ppl bad
names.
"mindful", indeed. ;)
nb
> you have shown yourself to be someone I would not invite
> into my home, for a meal or otherwise.
You assume I would come.
I ferget, are you a man or a woman or jes an asshole?
My guess is choice number three, as "l not -l" is kinda vague. I've
been watching you, of late, and you really like to stir things up. You
are not against using ad hominem attacks and you always call ppl bad
names.
"mindful", indeed. ;)
nb
Hank Rogers
Dec 17, 2018, 8:43:20 PM12/17/18
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ever worth a damn!
Oh, except for yoose aunt who raped yoose when yoose was very young.
Bruce
Dec 17, 2018, 8:46:03 PM12/17/18
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 19:43:17 -0600, Hank Rogers <nos...@invalid.net>
wrote:
>penm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Your Subj. line says Sub for GREEN bell pepper, and since we now know
>> it's to appease a medical condition that you refuse to describe it
>> cannot be other than a psychiatric condition... AKA Spoiled Brat
>> Syndrome. My sister wouldn't eat green bell peppers but she could pig
>> out on Holland red bell peppers at more than double the cost... she
>> was psychotic about being thought a peon, especially when someone else
>> was paying. Our sister was always treated special because she was a
>> girl and the youngest by ten years... we two boys got spankings but
>> not her... she truned out a thief, a druggie, and on welfare.
>>
>
>And, Popeye, YOOSE was natcherly the only one in yoose family that was
>ever worth a damn!
>
>Oh, except for yoose aunt who raped yoose when yoose was very young.
You can't blame her. He was the strongest toddler she'd ever seen!
wrote:
>penm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Your Subj. line says Sub for GREEN bell pepper, and since we now know
>> it's to appease a medical condition that you refuse to describe it
>> cannot be other than a psychiatric condition... AKA Spoiled Brat
>> Syndrome. My sister wouldn't eat green bell peppers but she could pig
>> out on Holland red bell peppers at more than double the cost... she
>> was psychotic about being thought a peon, especially when someone else
>> was paying. Our sister was always treated special because she was a
>> girl and the youngest by ten years... we two boys got spankings but
>> not her... she truned out a thief, a druggie, and on welfare.
>>
>
>And, Popeye, YOOSE was natcherly the only one in yoose family that was
>ever worth a damn!
>
>Oh, except for yoose aunt who raped yoose when yoose was very young.
Wayne Boatwright
Dec 17, 2018, 11:49:54 PM12/17/18
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On Mon 17 Dec 2018 06:50:47p, l not -l told us...
>
> On 17-Dec-2018, Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@xgmail.com>
> She does not eat them due to a medical condition.
>
Thank you for clarifying and, of coursee, that makes perfect sense.
I can also totally understand someone not eating something in a dish
that they dont like.
I have been cooking mostly separate meals for myself and David for
over 25 years. We do share many things I do make, but other parts of
any given meal willl usually have somethng different for each of us.
Early on we used to have minor disagreements about it, but then I
decided it wasn't worth it. Most meals are simple enough that it
takes very little extra effort.
All of David's meals are simple. If I want soeting complex for
myself I just go ahead and make it, as I won't deny myself the
pleasure.
If I'm cooking for a group of friends I try to take into
consideration their likes/dislikes, allergies, etc. We have one
friend who is allergic to chocolate to the oint of it causing
seizures, whereas most in the group would ike chocolate. In that
case I make two desserts so that no one is left out.
Regarding bell peppers of any color. I don't know eough about them
to know what makes green peppers different from the orange, red, and
yellow bell peppers. Obviously there must be someting that is
different.
>
> On 17-Dec-2018, Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@xgmail.com>
>
Thank you for clarifying and, of coursee, that makes perfect sense.
I can also totally understand someone not eating something in a dish
that they dont like.
I have been cooking mostly separate meals for myself and David for
over 25 years. We do share many things I do make, but other parts of
any given meal willl usually have somethng different for each of us.
Early on we used to have minor disagreements about it, but then I
decided it wasn't worth it. Most meals are simple enough that it
takes very little extra effort.
All of David's meals are simple. If I want soeting complex for
myself I just go ahead and make it, as I won't deny myself the
pleasure.
If I'm cooking for a group of friends I try to take into
consideration their likes/dislikes, allergies, etc. We have one
friend who is allergic to chocolate to the oint of it causing
seizures, whereas most in the group would ike chocolate. In that
case I make two desserts so that no one is left out.
Regarding bell peppers of any color. I don't know eough about them
to know what makes green peppers different from the orange, red, and
yellow bell peppers. Obviously there must be someting that is
different.
Ophelia
Dec 18, 2018, 4:42:07 AM12/18/18
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"l not -l" wrote in message news:J2WRD.56897$gk1....@fx47.iad...
be. Ripe bell peppers, whether red, orange or yellow, have a sweetness that
is not found in green. That component green have in lieu of sweet is what I
was looking to sub for. I am familiar with daikon and don't believe that
would provide what I'm looking for. Next trip to the international grocer,
I'll pick up a bitter melon and see what I think.
Thanks.
==
Is a green pepper not just unripe, or it is a species? (if you see what I
mean)
Bruce
Dec 18, 2018, 6:37:20 AM12/18/18
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penm...@aol.com
Dec 18, 2018, 12:31:54 PM12/18/18
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 "Ophelia" wrote:
>
>Is a green pepper not just unripe, or it is a species? (if you see what I
>mean)
A green bell pepper is simply not yet ripe... left unharvested it will
>
>Is a green pepper not just unripe, or it is a species? (if you see what I
>mean)
eventually turn red. The other colors are just different varietals,
those when not yet ripe are also green. And then there are varietals
with a different configuration, some long and thin fleshed, others
blocky with thick flesh. Peruse a seed catalog to view the varietals
of bell pepper, This web site pretty much explains your inquirey:
https://www.grow-it-organically.com/pepper-varieties.html
Green bell peppers cost substantially less as the longer left
unharvested the greater the chance of loss from rotting... red bell
peppers are more tender fleshed and often drop from their stems.
I grow a lot of bell peppers, I like the green ones sauted with
onions... very good on a saw-seege or meat-a-balles sub... also the
ones for stuffing (puffed steppers). To harvest red bell peppers I
need to watch carefully, once they develop a redish tinge I go out to
check often, eventually 3-4 times a day to catch them at their peak of
ripeness... left too long they will soften, drop, and rot on the
ground.
I know of no medical condition that disallows bell peppers, green or
otherwise... someone please apprise me. I can understand someone not
liking the flavor of green bell pepper, many people have such an
aversion but I know of no reason to eschew bell pepper for medical
reasons, except for spoiled brat syndrome.
Ophelia
Dec 18, 2018, 12:36:07 PM12/18/18
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"l not -l" wrote in message news:EO8SD.14730$a66...@fx27.iad...
ripens, it changes colors until fully ripened (red IIRC).
===
Thanks!
Ophelia
Dec 18, 2018, 12:36:07 PM12/18/18
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"Bruce" wrote in message news:tumh1etcji55eofj3...@4ax.com...
Thanks!
Ophelia
Dec 18, 2018, 12:55:19 PM12/18/18
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wrote in message news:3s2i1edhe077lltd0...@4ax.com...
I suspect there are many medical conditions that you and I know nothing
about. It doesn't mean they don't exist:)
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Dec 18, 2018, 1:30:04 PM12/18/18
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On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I know of no medical condition that disallows bell peppers, green or
> otherwise... someone please apprise me. I can understand someone not
> liking the flavor of green bell pepper, many people have such an
> aversion but I know of no reason to eschew bell pepper for medical
> reasons, except for spoiled brat syndrome.
>
He's not said what her medical condition is so I'm guessing it's plain old
>
> I know of no medical condition that disallows bell peppers, green or
> otherwise... someone please apprise me. I can understand someone not
> liking the flavor of green bell pepper, many people have such an
> aversion but I know of no reason to eschew bell pepper for medical
> reasons, except for spoiled brat syndrome.
>
indigestion is what the green bell peppers produce.
Bruce
Dec 18, 2018, 2:07:50 PM12/18/18
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penm...@aol.com
Dec 18, 2018, 2:45:29 PM12/18/18
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cause indigestion but it's from the oil, not the particular food.
I found many reasons why bell peppers are good for ones health, I
found no reasons for bell peppers having an adverse affect on ones
health.
https://www.naturalfoodseries.com/11-health-benefits-bell-peppers/
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Dec 18, 2018, 2:51:32 PM12/18/18
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to me when I eat them. But I don't eat any of the colored peppers, I just pick
them out.
Bruce
Dec 18, 2018, 3:13:03 PM12/18/18
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:51:28 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 1:07:50 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 10:30:01 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >He's not said what her medical condition is so I'm guessing it's plain old
>> >indigestion is what the green bell peppers produce.
>>
>> She doesn't eat red or orange either.
>>
>You are correct. I guess I was thinking green bell peppers as those talk back
>to me when I eat them. But I don't eat any of the colored peppers, I just pick
>them out.
I'll eat them all, but I prefer their hot little siblings.
>On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 1:07:50 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 10:30:01 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >He's not said what her medical condition is so I'm guessing it's plain old
>> >indigestion is what the green bell peppers produce.
>>
>> She doesn't eat red or orange either.
>>
>You are correct. I guess I was thinking green bell peppers as those talk back
>to me when I eat them. But I don't eat any of the colored peppers, I just pick
>them out.
Bruce
Dec 18, 2018, 3:14:11 PM12/18/18
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<https://www.livestrong.com/article/279402-bell-pepper-allergy/>
Hank Rogers
Dec 18, 2018, 3:40:09 PM12/18/18
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and world renown agronomist.
Hank Rogers
Dec 18, 2018, 3:41:01 PM12/18/18
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Hank Rogers
Dec 18, 2018, 3:41:55 PM12/18/18
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Dave Smith
Dec 18, 2018, 6:02:40 PM12/18/18
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On 2018-12-18 2:45 p.m., penm...@aol.com wrote:
>> He's not said what her medical condition is so I'm guessing it's plain old
>> indigestion is what the green bell peppers produce.
>
> Any food can cause indigestion when eaten to excess. Fried foods
> cause indigestion but it's from the oil, not the particular food.
> I found many reasons why bell peppers are good for ones health, I
> found no reasons for bell peppers having an adverse affect on ones
> health.
> https://www.naturalfoodseries.com/11-health-benefits-bell-peppers/
>
Some people react differently that other people. There are foods that my
>> He's not said what her medical condition is so I'm guessing it's plain old
>> indigestion is what the green bell peppers produce.
>
> Any food can cause indigestion when eaten to excess. Fried foods
> cause indigestion but it's from the oil, not the particular food.
> I found many reasons why bell peppers are good for ones health, I
> found no reasons for bell peppers having an adverse affect on ones
> health.
> https://www.naturalfoodseries.com/11-health-benefits-bell-peppers/
>
wife eats that I don't, and vice versa.
Dave Smith
Dec 18, 2018, 6:05:07 PM12/18/18
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dishes, but I am not likely to ask for stuffed green peppers. I used a
lot of red peppers. I can't say that I notice much of a flavour
difference in yellow and orange, but I sure do notice the difference in
price.
Hank Rogers
Dec 18, 2018, 7:11:42 PM12/18/18
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l not -l wrote:
> On 18-Dec-2018, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>> in
>> bell peppers (and a few other foods to a lesser extent) that causes
>> inflamation/irritation and pain in joints, lasting up to 24 hours. She is
>> the caretaker of a ranch and is a professional faffier
>
> farrier
>
>> and hoof
>> rehabilitation specialist. The pain and range of movement issues can be
>> more than uncomfortable.
>
>
Nonsense! Dr. Popeye has previously ruled out all diseases, and has
proclaimed only spoiled brat syndrome can be the cause.
> On 18-Dec-2018, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 18-Dec-2018, wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know of no medical condition that disallows bell peppers, green or
>>>> otherwise... someone please apprise me. I can understand someone not
>>>> liking the flavor of green bell pepper, many people have such an
>>>> aversion but I know of no reason to eschew bell pepper for medical
>>>> reasons, except for spoiled brat syndrome.
>>>>
>> On 18-Dec-2018, wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know of no medical condition that disallows bell peppers, green or
>>>> otherwise... someone please apprise me. I can understand someone not
>>>> liking the flavor of green bell pepper, many people have such an
>>>> aversion but I know of no reason to eschew bell pepper for medical
>>>> reasons, except for spoiled brat syndrome.
>>>>
>>> He's not said what her medical condition is so I'm guessing it's plain
>>> old
>>> indigestion is what the green bell peppers produce.
>> Actually, I did say. It is persistent lyme disease. There is something
>>> old
>>> indigestion is what the green bell peppers produce.
>> in
>> bell peppers (and a few other foods to a lesser extent) that causes
>> inflamation/irritation and pain in joints, lasting up to 24 hours. She is
>> the caretaker of a ranch and is a professional faffier
>
> farrier
>
>> and hoof
>> rehabilitation specialist. The pain and range of movement issues can be
>> more than uncomfortable.
>
>
Nonsense! Dr. Popeye has previously ruled out all diseases, and has
proclaimed only spoiled brat syndrome can be the cause.
Hank Rogers
Dec 18, 2018, 7:12:50 PM12/18/18
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Ophelia
Dec 19, 2018, 3:18:25 AM12/19/18
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"l not -l" wrote in message news:FFeSD.20421$lx7....@fx44.iad...
On 18-Dec-2018, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> On 18-Dec-2018, wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> > > I know of no medical condition that disallows bell peppers, green or
> > > otherwise... someone please apprise me. I can understand someone not
> > > liking the flavor of green bell pepper, many people have such an
> > > aversion but I know of no reason to eschew bell pepper for medical
> > > reasons, except for spoiled brat syndrome.
> > >
> > He's not said what her medical condition is so I'm guessing it's plain
> > old
> > indigestion is what the green bell peppers produce.
> > old
> > indigestion is what the green bell peppers produce.
> Actually, I did say. It is persistent lyme disease. There is something
> in
> bell peppers (and a few other foods to a lesser extent) that causes
> inflamation/irritation and pain in joints, lasting up to 24 hours. She is
> the caretaker of a ranch and is a professional faffier
farrier
> and hoof
> rehabilitation specialist. The pain and range of movement issues can be
> more than uncomfortable.
==
> in
> bell peppers (and a few other foods to a lesser extent) that causes
> inflamation/irritation and pain in joints, lasting up to 24 hours. She is
> the caretaker of a ranch and is a professional faffier
farrier
> and hoof
> rehabilitation specialist. The pain and range of movement issues can be
> more than uncomfortable.
I knew:)
cshenk
Dec 21, 2018, 4:53:55 PM12/21/18
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l not -l wrote:
> > > On 16-Dec-2018, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:23:20 GMT, l not -l wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wasn't she experimenting with vegetarianism, too?
> > > >
> > > > I think a lot of us are desensitized to food whims by that
> > > > adulteress from Planet Bothell.
> > > >
> > > > ObFood: Pesto Meatball Cheesesteak on French bread for lunch.
> > > > With onions, peppers, and provolone and Genovese pesto mayo.
> > > Not vegetarianism; but, there are meat restrictions. She is an
> > > outdoors person, equestrian, farrier and hoof rehabilitation
> > > specialist. She contracted a disease a few years back, a
> > > specialist said it was a form of persistent lyme disease. Some
> > > foods, bell peppers and red meat among them, cause temporary
> > > recurrence of some symptoms she experienced at the peak of the
> > > illness. So, she avoids bell peppers and eats mostly fish and
> > > fowl for protein. My son and I like cajun/creole food, which are
> > > great fish and fowl dishes; they would be good to have for our
> > > Sunday family meals, but, of course, pretty much always have
> > > green bell pepper. The green pepper could be left out; but, it's
> > > there for a reason, however subtle.
> > >
> > > Silly me; I momentarily forgot that you can't ask a simple
> > > question on RFC and expect a simple answer or to be ignored if
> > > the answer unknown. After years on RFC, I should have known I'd
> > > a bunch of uninformed lectures, such as from US JB that did
> > > nothing to address the question asked.
> > >
> > > Perhaps with the above clarification, I might get a relevant
> > > eanswer. Of course, there will also be the know-it-all, "lyme
> > > disease doesn't exist" or "it's all in her head" or other
> > > dumb-ass, unhelpfull responses.
> > >
> > > Folks, if you aren't asking for clarification and don't have an
> > > answer, just STFU and don't piss in my Bran Flakes.
> >
> > You got one from me (before I saw this since I read in order).
> >
> > Have you tried File' powder? I seem to recall a faint bitterness.
> > BTW, if you sometimes need the texture, I think you will find cubed
> > brocolli stems will work well. Asian types are particularily good
> > just washed and sprinkled in a salad. I do that all the time
> > because they cost less here than bell peppers.
> I do have file' and use it in gumbo. I wonder if it might over-power
> because of its strong sassafras/rootbeer flavor.
Not really sure but it would presumably depend on the recipe.
> > > On 16-Dec-2018, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:23:20 GMT, l not -l wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l"
> > > > <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing
> > > > > > > dishes for out Sunday
> > > > > > > family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls
> > > > > > > for bell pepper
> > > > > > > and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell
> > > > > > > peppers. The carrot
> > > > > > > does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness
> > > > > > > of the more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not
> > > > > > > found a particularly good substitute for green bell
> > > > > > > papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> > > > > > > green bell pepper sub?
> > > > > >
> > > > >> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them
> > > > out of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least try
> > > > a bit. After all, >> when she grows up other people will
> > > > prepare dishes that contain bell >> peppers.
> > > > >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l"
> > > > <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing
> > > > > > > dishes for out Sunday
> > > > > > > family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls
> > > > > > > for bell pepper
> > > > > > > and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell
> > > > > > > peppers. The carrot
> > > > > > > does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness
> > > > > > > of the more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not
> > > > > > > found a particularly good substitute for green bell
> > > > > > > papper's slight bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> > > > > > > green bell pepper sub?
> > > > > >
> > > > >> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them
> > > > out of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least try
> > > > a bit. After all, >> when she grows up other people will
> > > > prepare dishes that contain bell >> peppers.
> > > > > She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical
> > > > > condition.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
> > > > > condition.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wasn't she experimenting with vegetarianism, too?
> > > >
> > > > I think a lot of us are desensitized to food whims by that
> > > > adulteress from Planet Bothell.
> > > >
> > > > ObFood: Pesto Meatball Cheesesteak on French bread for lunch.
> > > > With onions, peppers, and provolone and Genovese pesto mayo.
> > > Not vegetarianism; but, there are meat restrictions. She is an
> > > outdoors person, equestrian, farrier and hoof rehabilitation
> > > specialist. She contracted a disease a few years back, a
> > > specialist said it was a form of persistent lyme disease. Some
> > > foods, bell peppers and red meat among them, cause temporary
> > > recurrence of some symptoms she experienced at the peak of the
> > > illness. So, she avoids bell peppers and eats mostly fish and
> > > fowl for protein. My son and I like cajun/creole food, which are
> > > great fish and fowl dishes; they would be good to have for our
> > > Sunday family meals, but, of course, pretty much always have
> > > green bell pepper. The green pepper could be left out; but, it's
> > > there for a reason, however subtle.
> > >
> > > Silly me; I momentarily forgot that you can't ask a simple
> > > question on RFC and expect a simple answer or to be ignored if
> > > the answer unknown. After years on RFC, I should have known I'd
> > > a bunch of uninformed lectures, such as from US JB that did
> > > nothing to address the question asked.
> > >
> > > Perhaps with the above clarification, I might get a relevant
> > > eanswer. Of course, there will also be the know-it-all, "lyme
> > > disease doesn't exist" or "it's all in her head" or other
> > > dumb-ass, unhelpfull responses.
> > >
> > > Folks, if you aren't asking for clarification and don't have an
> > > answer, just STFU and don't piss in my Bran Flakes.
> >
> > You got one from me (before I saw this since I read in order).
> >
> > Have you tried File' powder? I seem to recall a faint bitterness.
> > BTW, if you sometimes need the texture, I think you will find cubed
> > brocolli stems will work well. Asian types are particularily good
> > just washed and sprinkled in a salad. I do that all the time
> > because they cost less here than bell peppers.
> I do have file' and use it in gumbo. I wonder if it might over-power
> because of its strong sassafras/rootbeer flavor.
Not really sure but it would presumably depend on the recipe.
cshenk
Dec 21, 2018, 5:02:11 PM12/21/18
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l not -l wrote:
>
> On 17-Dec-2018, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>
> I try to be a decent human being; some days I succeed less well than
> others. 8-)
>
> >
> > What does the lady do when the menu includes "stuffed bell peppers"?
> > Explode? I've made red beans plenty o' times w/o peppers. I can
> > certainly do it again, if the lady asks.
>
> In this case, the lady is my daughter and I would not make stuffed
> bell peppers for her, nor for our Sunday family dinner. For example,
> when I make breaded tenderloin sandwiches, I make a breaded chicken
> cutlet for my daughter. I don't find it burdensome to accommodate
> the needs of loved ones.
>
> >
> > To make it "correctly" calls for the Holy Trinity, which is celery,
> > bell peppers, and onions. I gotta make it incorrectly and dislike
> > the dish -- along with any guests that I may be also serving-- cuz
> > one lady cannot eat green bell pprs. Like I sed, she can "avoid the
> > dish".
> > peppers in their red beans? You gonna be "empathetic" to my needs?
> In this thread, you have shown yourself to be someone I would not
> invite into my home, for a meal or otherwise. I think I would
> quickly find your selfishness insufferable.
>
> Well, it seems obvious to me that when looking for a sub, I was
> looking for a way to avoid making the dish unrecognizable.
>
> Also, it's not like I was having a dinner party with a bunch of
> guests. It was my family, daughter and son, and me.
>
> When you cooked for you and your mother, did you not take her needs
> in mind? If she had none, would you have ignored them if they
> developed? Would you have forced her to eat red beans that would
> cause her distress just so you could have them exactly as you like
> them?
> >
> > Never mind. You've already weighed in on that issue. ;)
On the sub that will look like it, brocolli stems comes closest (in my
first reply it was among the recommendations).
>
> On 17-Dec-2018, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 16-Dec-2018, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
> > >
> > On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 16-Dec-2018, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > >> > She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical
> > >> > condition.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >> > She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical
> > >> > condition.
> > > >
> > >> Then she is old enough to know how to pick the green peppers out
> > or not >> eat the dish.
> > > >
> > >> What? I gotta come up with a new variation on "red beans" cuz
> > the >> woman is too lazy to pick out the peppers .....or avoid the
> > dish!
> >
> > > Thanks for yet another, unimaginative, unhelpful, dumb-ass
> > > response.
> >
> > Much like yer "mindful" response?
> > or not >> eat the dish.
> > > >
> > >> What? I gotta come up with a new variation on "red beans" cuz
> > the >> woman is too lazy to pick out the peppers .....or avoid the
> > dish!
> >
> > > Thanks for yet another, unimaginative, unhelpful, dumb-ass
> > > response.
> >
>
> I try to be a decent human being; some days I succeed less well than
> others. 8-)
>
> >
> > What does the lady do when the menu includes "stuffed bell peppers"?
> > Explode? I've made red beans plenty o' times w/o peppers. I can
> > certainly do it again, if the lady asks.
>
> In this case, the lady is my daughter and I would not make stuffed
> bell peppers for her, nor for our Sunday family dinner. For example,
> when I make breaded tenderloin sandwiches, I make a breaded chicken
> cutlet for my daughter. I don't find it burdensome to accommodate
> the needs of loved ones.
>
> >
> > To make it "correctly" calls for the Holy Trinity, which is celery,
> > bell peppers, and onions. I gotta make it incorrectly and dislike
> > the dish -- along with any guests that I may be also serving-- cuz
> > one lady cannot eat green bell pprs. Like I sed, she can "avoid the
> > dish".
> >
> > > Unlike some, rather than being a selfish oaf, I try to be mindful
> > > and empathetic to the needs of others.
> >
> > What about the folks --including myself-- that LIKE green bell
> > > Unlike some, rather than being a selfish oaf, I try to be mindful
> > > and empathetic to the needs of others.
> >
> > peppers in their red beans? You gonna be "empathetic" to my needs?
> In this thread, you have shown yourself to be someone I would not
> invite into my home, for a meal or otherwise. I think I would
> quickly find your selfishness insufferable.
>
> Well, it seems obvious to me that when looking for a sub, I was
> looking for a way to avoid making the dish unrecognizable.
>
> Also, it's not like I was having a dinner party with a bunch of
> guests. It was my family, daughter and son, and me.
>
> When you cooked for you and your mother, did you not take her needs
> in mind? If she had none, would you have ignored them if they
> developed? Would you have forced her to eat red beans that would
> cause her distress just so you could have them exactly as you like
> them?
> >
> > Never mind. You've already weighed in on that issue. ;)
On the sub that will look like it, brocolli stems comes closest (in my
first reply it was among the recommendations).
cshenk
Dec 21, 2018, 5:05:12 PM12/21/18
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l not -l wrote:
>
> On 17-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 4:17:20 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> > > > medical condition that prevents her from eating bell pepper?
> > > > You could have explained that without snapping.
> > > >
> > > I don't care for red, green, or the yellow bell peppers. But I
> > > wouldn't dream of someone altering a dish because I don't like
> > > them or because of a medical condition. I'd just pick them out
> > > or better yet, just pass on the dish(es) that contain them. So I
> > > think everyone else's suggestion of picking them out is the best
> > > solution, too.
> >
> > I don't think picking them out will work if they have been cooked
> > into dish. Not when it's a medical issue. Might be like 'picking
> > out the peanuts' with a peanut allergy person?
> Or like picking the sugar out of sweet tea. 8-)
LOL, that too!
>
> On 17-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 4:17:20 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 2018-12-16 3:23 p.m., l not -l wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them
> > > > out of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least try
> > > > a bit. After all, >> when she grows up other people will
> > > > prepare dishes that contain bell >> peppers.
> > > > On 2018-12-16 3:23 p.m., l not -l wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them
> > > > out of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least try
> > > > a bit. After all, >> when she grows up other people will
> > > > prepare dishes that contain bell >> peppers.
> > > > > She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical
> > > > > condition.
> > > > >
> > > > > condition.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
> > > >
> > > > Really? How was she to know that your daughter is 39 and has a
> > > >
> > > > medical condition that prevents her from eating bell pepper?
> > > > You could have explained that without snapping.
> > > >
> > > I don't care for red, green, or the yellow bell peppers. But I
> > > wouldn't dream of someone altering a dish because I don't like
> > > them or because of a medical condition. I'd just pick them out
> > > or better yet, just pass on the dish(es) that contain them. So I
> > > think everyone else's suggestion of picking them out is the best
> > > solution, too.
> >
> > I don't think picking them out will work if they have been cooked
> > into dish. Not when it's a medical issue. Might be like 'picking
> > out the peanuts' with a peanut allergy person?
> Or like picking the sugar out of sweet tea. 8-)
LOL, that too!
cshenk
Dec 21, 2018, 5:11:30 PM12/21/18
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> > U.S. Janet B. wrote:
a very thin slice for the whole dish. May not work at all for this.
Can you describe a dish you are looking to adapt? That would make it
easier.
> >
> > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for
> > > > out Sunday family meals, I occasionally prepare something that
> > > > calls for bell pepper and generally substitute carrot for red
> > > > or orange bell peppers. The carrot does a fine job
> > > > substituting for the color and sweetness of the more colorful
> > > > bell peppers. However, I have not found a particularly good
> > > > substitute for green bell papper's slight bitterness. Any
> > > > ideas for a good green bell pepper sub?
> > >
> > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes for
> > > > out Sunday family meals, I occasionally prepare something that
> > > > calls for bell pepper and generally substitute carrot for red
> > > > or orange bell peppers. The carrot does a fine job
> > > > substituting for the color and sweetness of the more colorful
> > > > bell peppers. However, I have not found a particularly good
> > > > substitute for green bell papper's slight bitterness. Any
> > > > ideas for a good green bell pepper sub?
> > >
> > > No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out of
> > > her food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit.
> > > After all, when she grows up other people will prepare dishes
> > > that contain bell peppers.
> >
> > > her food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit.
> > > After all, when she grows up other people will prepare dishes
> > > that contain bell peppers.
> >
> > Hi Janet, this could be allergy related.
> >
> > l not -l, I've not found bell peppers 'bitter' but I can think of 3
> > things that might work in careful moderation. Daikon radish, a very
> >
> > l not -l, I've not found bell peppers 'bitter' but I can think of 3
> > MILD radish by USA standards. American eggplant (the big ones).
> > Bitter melon (looks like a cucucmber with serious goosebumps). For
> > the bitter melon, you'd only use a tiny amount. If it freezes and
> > defrosts usably (I do not know), then ou may want to cut it to thin
> > rounds and freeze in wax paper so you can peel off just 1-2 for a
> > dish.
>
> There might be a better word than bitter, I just can't think what it
> would be. Ripe bell peppers, whether red, orange or yellow, have a
> sweetness that is not found in green. That component green have in
> lieu of sweet is what I was looking to sub for. I am familiar with
> daikon and don't believe that would provide what I'm looking for.
> Next trip to the international grocer, I'll pick up a bitter melon
> and see what I think. Thanks.
No problem! Bitter melon is well named. Very bitter. You'd use just
> > Bitter melon (looks like a cucucmber with serious goosebumps). For
> > the bitter melon, you'd only use a tiny amount. If it freezes and
> > defrosts usably (I do not know), then ou may want to cut it to thin
> > rounds and freeze in wax paper so you can peel off just 1-2 for a
> > dish.
>
> There might be a better word than bitter, I just can't think what it
> would be. Ripe bell peppers, whether red, orange or yellow, have a
> sweetness that is not found in green. That component green have in
> lieu of sweet is what I was looking to sub for. I am familiar with
> daikon and don't believe that would provide what I'm looking for.
> Next trip to the international grocer, I'll pick up a bitter melon
> and see what I think. Thanks.
a very thin slice for the whole dish. May not work at all for this.
Can you describe a dish you are looking to adapt? That would make it
easier.
cshenk
Dec 21, 2018, 5:15:33 PM12/21/18
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Wayne Boatwright
Dec 21, 2018, 8:07:14 PM12/21/18
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On Fri 21 Dec 2018 04:22:14p, l not -l told us...
>
> On 21-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> > >
>> > > l not -l, I've not found bell peppers 'bitter' but I can
>> > > think of 3 things that might work in careful moderation.
>> > > Daikon radish, a very MILD radish by USA standards. American
>> > > eggplant (the big ones). Bitter melon (looks like a cucucmber
>> > > with serious goosebumps). For the bitter melon, you'd only
>> > > use a tiny amount. If it freezes and defrosts usably (I do
>> > > not know), then ou may want to cut it to thin rounds and
>> > > freeze in wax paper so you can peel off just 1-2 for a
>> > > dish.
>> >
>> > There might be a better word than bitter, I just can't think
>> > what it would be. Ripe bell peppers, whether red, orange or
>> > yellow, have a sweetness that is not found in green. That
>> > component green have in lieu of sweet is what I was looking to
>> > sub for. I am familiar with daikon and don't believe that
>> > would provide what I'm looking for. Next trip to the
>> > international grocer, I'll pick up a bitter melon and see what
>> > I think. Thanks.
>>
>> No problem! Bitter melon is well named. Very bitter. You'd use
>> just a very thin slice for the whole dish. May not work at all
>> for this.
>>
>> Can you describe a dish you are looking to adapt? That would
>> make it easier.
> I was making jambalya and looking for a substitute for the green
> pepper in "the trinity". The green pepper, onion and celery
> basically "melt" into cajun/creole dishes and provide background
> flavors. The need to sub would be for any cajun/creole dish using
> the "trinity". I sub''ed the dark, outer cabbage leaf for the
> green pepper; neither my son or I thought the dish suffered from
> the sub. My daughter loved the jambalaya, eating seconds and
> suffered no ill effects as she would have had I used green pepper.
>
> Thanks for your positive contributions.
>
I didn't contribute an alternative since I couldn't think of one.
However, I bought several green peppers along with onions, fresh
garlic, beans, tomato products, etc. I was ready to lay everything
out when I discovered I had no chili powder. David had used up the
last of it a couple of weeks ago when he made his chili, although I
had all the other seasonings.
Since I'm planning any shopping before Christmas, I knew the green
peppers would not stay fresh that long. I diced the peppers and
onion and pressed the garlic, then sautéed the mix with some olive
oil. Afterwards I froze the lot and it will be ready to add to the
browned meat and other ingredients sometime between Christmas and New
Years.
I did the same thing with sliced mushrooms and they'll be ready for
use in my Beef Barley Mushroom Soup between the holidays.
I usually make a gallon of chili and certain soups and freeze them in
serving quantities for quick meals when I'm in no mood to cook.
--
~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~
**********************************************************
Wayne Boatwright
>
> On 21-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> > >
>> > > l not -l, I've not found bell peppers 'bitter' but I can
>> > > think of 3 things that might work in careful moderation.
>> > > Daikon radish, a very MILD radish by USA standards. American
>> > > eggplant (the big ones). Bitter melon (looks like a cucucmber
>> > > with serious goosebumps). For the bitter melon, you'd only
>> > > use a tiny amount. If it freezes and defrosts usably (I do
>> > > not know), then ou may want to cut it to thin rounds and
>> > > freeze in wax paper so you can peel off just 1-2 for a
>> > > dish.
>> >
>> > There might be a better word than bitter, I just can't think
>> > what it would be. Ripe bell peppers, whether red, orange or
>> > yellow, have a sweetness that is not found in green. That
>> > component green have in lieu of sweet is what I was looking to
>> > sub for. I am familiar with daikon and don't believe that
>> > would provide what I'm looking for. Next trip to the
>> > international grocer, I'll pick up a bitter melon and see what
>> > I think. Thanks.
>>
>> No problem! Bitter melon is well named. Very bitter. You'd use
>> just a very thin slice for the whole dish. May not work at all
>> for this.
>>
>> Can you describe a dish you are looking to adapt? That would
>> make it easier.
> pepper in "the trinity". The green pepper, onion and celery
> basically "melt" into cajun/creole dishes and provide background
> flavors. The need to sub would be for any cajun/creole dish using
> the "trinity". I sub''ed the dark, outer cabbage leaf for the
> green pepper; neither my son or I thought the dish suffered from
> the sub. My daughter loved the jambalaya, eating seconds and
> suffered no ill effects as she would have had I used green pepper.
>
> Thanks for your positive contributions.
>
I didn't contribute an alternative since I couldn't think of one.
However, I bought several green peppers along with onions, fresh
garlic, beans, tomato products, etc. I was ready to lay everything
out when I discovered I had no chili powder. David had used up the
last of it a couple of weeks ago when he made his chili, although I
had all the other seasonings.
Since I'm planning any shopping before Christmas, I knew the green
peppers would not stay fresh that long. I diced the peppers and
onion and pressed the garlic, then sautéed the mix with some olive
oil. Afterwards I froze the lot and it will be ready to add to the
browned meat and other ingredients sometime between Christmas and New
Years.
I did the same thing with sliced mushrooms and they'll be ready for
use in my Beef Barley Mushroom Soup between the holidays.
I usually make a gallon of chili and certain soups and freeze them in
serving quantities for quick meals when I'm in no mood to cook.
--
~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~
**********************************************************
Wayne Boatwright
jmcquown
Dec 22, 2018, 11:12:23 AM12/22/18
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On 12/17/2018 6:15 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 17-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> l not -l wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 16-Dec-2018, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> On 17-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> l not -l wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:23:20 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes
>>>>>>> for out Sunday
>>>>>>> family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for
>>>>>>> bell pepper
>>>>>>> and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell
>>>>>>> peppers. The carrot
>>>>>>> does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of
>>>>>>> the more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a
>>>>>>> particularly good substitute for green bell papper's slight
>>>>>>> bitterness. Any ideas for a good
>>>>>>> green bell pepper sub?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out
>>>> of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit.
>>>> After all, >> when she grows up other people will prepare dishes
>>>> that contain bell >> peppers.
>>>>> On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes
>>>>>>> for out Sunday
>>>>>>> family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls for
>>>>>>> bell pepper
>>>>>>> and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell
>>>>>>> peppers. The carrot
>>>>>>> does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of
>>>>>>> the more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a
>>>>>>> particularly good substitute for green bell papper's slight
>>>>>>> bitterness. Any ideas for a good
>>>>>>> green bell pepper sub?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them out
>>>> of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least try a bit.
>>>> After all, >> when she grows up other people will prepare dishes
>>>> that contain bell >> peppers.
>>>>> She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical
>>>>> condition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
>>>>
>>>>> condition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning??
>>>>
would work as a sub for green bell peppers. There's a reason it's used
sparingly and added at the end of making gumbo. The chopped broccoli
stems sound like a credible answer, as did chopped cabbage.
Jill
jmcquown
Dec 22, 2018, 11:53:45 AM12/22/18
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On 12/17/2018 5:21 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 16-Dec-2018, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>>
> On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 16-Dec-2018, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-16, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical condition.
>>>
>>>
>>>> She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical condition.
>>>
>>> Then she is old enough to know how to pick the green peppers out or not
>>> eat the dish.
>>>
>>> What? I gotta come up with a new variation on "red beans" cuz the
>>> woman is too lazy to pick out the peppers .....or avoid the dish!
>
>> Thanks for yet another, unimaginative, unhelpful, dumb-ass response.
>
> Much like yer "mindful" response?
>
>>> eat the dish.
>>>
>>> What? I gotta come up with a new variation on "red beans" cuz the
>>> woman is too lazy to pick out the peppers .....or avoid the dish!
>
>> Thanks for yet another, unimaginative, unhelpful, dumb-ass response.
>
> Much like yer "mindful" response?
>
> What does the lady do when the menu includes "stuffed bell peppers"?
> Explode? I've made red beans plenty o' times w/o peppers. I can
> certainly do it again, if the lady asks.
>
> Explode? I've made red beans plenty o' times w/o peppers. I can
> certainly do it again, if the lady asks.
>
> To make it "correctly" calls for the Holy Trinity, which is celery,
> bell peppers, and onions. I gotta make it incorrectly and dislike the
> dish -- along with any guests that I may be also serving-- cuz one
> lady cannot eat green bell pprs. Like I sed, she can "avoid the
> dish".
>
>> Unlike some, rather than being a selfish oaf, I try to be mindful and
>> empathetic to the needs of others.
>
> What about the folks --including myself-- that LIKE green bell peppers
> in their red beans? You gonna be "empathetic" to my needs?
>
> bell peppers, and onions. I gotta make it incorrectly and dislike the
> dish -- along with any guests that I may be also serving-- cuz one
> lady cannot eat green bell pprs. Like I sed, she can "avoid the
> dish".
>
>> Unlike some, rather than being a selfish oaf, I try to be mindful and
>> empathetic to the needs of others.
>
> What about the folks --including myself-- that LIKE green bell peppers
> in their red beans? You gonna be "empathetic" to my needs?
>
> Never mind. You've already weighed in on that issue. ;)
>
> nb
>
>
He didn't say his daughter doesn't *like* them. He said she doesn't eat
them. He later clarified about a medical condition. He wasn't asking
because she's a picky eater. He merely asked for a substitute. I don't
know what your preparation of red beans has to do with it.
Jill
jmcquown
Dec 22, 2018, 12:10:20 PM12/22/18
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On 12/17/2018 4:48 PM, cshenk wrote:
> I don't think picking them out will work if they have been cooked into
> dish. Not when it's a medical issue. Might be like 'picking out the
> peanuts' with a peanut allergy person?
>
Truly! I can tell you from experience (not due to any medical
> I don't think picking them out will work if they have been cooked into
> dish. Not when it's a medical issue. Might be like 'picking out the
> peanuts' with a peanut allergy person?
>
condition) "picking something out" of a dish doesn't necessarily work.
You can still taste it and if you don't like it (not the case of l not
-l's daughter) it's over.
Here's a personal example - not a medical reason by any means. I prefer
plain hamburgers or cheeseburgers. Nothing more on them. No special
sauces, no ketchup, no mustard, no pickles! If I were to buy a burger
at a fast food joint, ordered it plain but it came with all those
things, if you told me to just scrape it off the bun I'd say nope. Why?
Because I can still taste it.
When it comes to adding something like bell peppers in a cooked dish,
his daughter just picking them out won't work. The peppers have been
enfused in the dish during the cooking process.
I like your suggestion of chopped broccoli stems as a substitute.
Others have mentioned cabbage. That sounds like it might work, too.
Jill
jmcquown
Dec 22, 2018, 12:13:25 PM12/22/18
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On 12/17/2018 8:15 PM, notbob wrote:
>
>
> I ferget, are you a man or a woman or jes an asshole?
>
> My guess is choice number three, as "l not -l" is kinda vague. I've
> been watching you, of late, and you really like to stir things up. You
> are not against using ad hominem attacks and you always call ppl bad names.
>
> "mindful", indeed. ;)
>
> nb
You must have been reading different threads than I. All he did was ask
for a substitute for bell pepper. Now you've got him in attack mode.
He doesn't usually do that.
Jill
> On 12/17/2018 4:42 PM, l not -l wrote:
>
>> you have shown yourself to be someone I would not invite
>> into my home, for a meal or otherwise.
> You assume I would come.
>
>> you have shown yourself to be someone I would not invite
>> into my home, for a meal or otherwise.
>
>
> I ferget, are you a man or a woman or jes an asshole?
>
> My guess is choice number three, as "l not -l" is kinda vague. I've
> been watching you, of late, and you really like to stir things up. You
> are not against using ad hominem attacks and you always call ppl bad names.
>
> "mindful", indeed. ;)
>
> nb
You must have been reading different threads than I. All he did was ask
for a substitute for bell pepper. Now you've got him in attack mode.
He doesn't usually do that.
Jill
jmcquown
Dec 22, 2018, 12:23:43 PM12/22/18
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On 12/22/2018 11:42 AM, l not -l wrote:
> The cabbage did work fine and I agree the broccoli stems sound like they
> might also. I will try the broccoli stems sometime and see what I think.
>
(much snippage)
I'm glad to hear it! See how much folderol you had go through just to
get substution suggestions? Heaven forfend we should actually talk
about such things!
Jill
> might also. I will try the broccoli stems sometime and see what I think.
>
(much snippage)
I'm glad to hear it! See how much folderol you had go through just to
get substution suggestions? Heaven forfend we should actually talk
about such things!
Jill
jmcquown
Dec 22, 2018, 12:33:25 PM12/22/18
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On 12/16/2018 4:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> <penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:a4bd1e1gd3poif4tu...@4ax.com...
>>
Is that your go-to answer for everything? Allergy or intolerance. Heh.
Jill
>
> <penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:a4bd1e1gd3poif4tu...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 "l not -l" wrote:
>>>
>>> My daughter does not eat bell peppers.
>>
>> The important question is why not? Is it an allergy?
>>>
>>> My daughter does not eat bell peppers.
>>
>>
Is that your go-to answer for everything? Allergy or intolerance. Heh.
Jill
cshenk
Dec 22, 2018, 1:58:41 PM12/22/18
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l not -l wrote:
>
> On 21-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > > l not -l, I've not found bell peppers 'bitter' but I can think
> > > > of 3 things that might work in careful moderation. Daikon
> > > > radish, a very MILD radish by USA standards. American eggplant
> > > > (the big ones). Bitter melon (looks like a cucucmber with
> > > > serious goosebumps). For the bitter melon, you'd only use a
> > > > tiny amount. If it freezes and defrosts usably (I do not
> > > > know), then ou may want to cut it to thin rounds and freeze in
> > > > wax paper so you can peel off just 1-2 for a dish.
> > >
> > > There might be a better word than bitter, I just can't think what
> > > it would be. Ripe bell peppers, whether red, orange or yellow,
> > > have a sweetness that is not found in green. That component
> > > green have in lieu of sweet is what I was looking to sub for. I
> > > am familiar with daikon and don't believe that would provide what
> > > I'm looking for. Next trip to the international grocer, I'll
> > > pick up a bitter melon and see what I think. Thanks.
> >
> > No problem! Bitter melon is well named. Very bitter. You'd use
> > just a very thin slice for the whole dish. May not work at all for
> > this.
> >
> > Can you describe a dish you are looking to adapt? That would make
> > it easier.
but the white bottoms stripped to 'like bell pepper bits' may work even
better.
>
> On 21-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > > l not -l, I've not found bell peppers 'bitter' but I can think
> > > > of 3 things that might work in careful moderation. Daikon
> > > > radish, a very MILD radish by USA standards. American eggplant
> > > > (the big ones). Bitter melon (looks like a cucucmber with
> > > > serious goosebumps). For the bitter melon, you'd only use a
> > > > tiny amount. If it freezes and defrosts usably (I do not
> > > > know), then ou may want to cut it to thin rounds and freeze in
> > > > wax paper so you can peel off just 1-2 for a dish.
> > >
> > > There might be a better word than bitter, I just can't think what
> > > it would be. Ripe bell peppers, whether red, orange or yellow,
> > > have a sweetness that is not found in green. That component
> > > green have in lieu of sweet is what I was looking to sub for. I
> > > am familiar with daikon and don't believe that would provide what
> > > I'm looking for. Next trip to the international grocer, I'll
> > > pick up a bitter melon and see what I think. Thanks.
> >
> > No problem! Bitter melon is well named. Very bitter. You'd use
> > just a very thin slice for the whole dish. May not work at all for
> > this.
> >
> > Can you describe a dish you are looking to adapt? That would make
> > it easier.
> I was making jambalya and looking for a substitute for the green
> pepper in "the trinity". The green pepper, onion and celery
> basically "melt" into cajun/creole dishes and provide background
> flavors. The need to sub would be for any cajun/creole dish using
> the "trinity". I sub''ed the dark, outer cabbage leaf for the green
> pepper; neither my son or I thought the dish suffered from the sub.
> My daughter loved the jambalaya, eating seconds and suffered no ill
> effects as she would have had I used green pepper.
>
> Thanks for your positive contributions.
That works! With the idea of Jambalya, I will add full sized Bok Choy
> pepper in "the trinity". The green pepper, onion and celery
> basically "melt" into cajun/creole dishes and provide background
> flavors. The need to sub would be for any cajun/creole dish using
> the "trinity". I sub''ed the dark, outer cabbage leaf for the green
> pepper; neither my son or I thought the dish suffered from the sub.
> My daughter loved the jambalaya, eating seconds and suffered no ill
> effects as she would have had I used green pepper.
>
> Thanks for your positive contributions.
but the white bottoms stripped to 'like bell pepper bits' may work even
better.
cshenk
Dec 22, 2018, 8:34:51 PM12/22/18
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l not -l wrote:
>
> On 22-Dec-2018, wrote:
>
>
> On 22-Dec-2018, wrote:
>
> > On 12/17/2018 6:15 PM, l not -l wrote:
> > > On 17-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> l not -l wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > >>> On 16-Dec-2018, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > >>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:23:20 GMT, l not -l wrote:
> > > > > >
> > >>>>> On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > >>>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l"
> > <lal...@cujo.com> >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>> My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes
> > >>>>>>> for out Sunday
> > >>>>>>> family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls
> > for >>>>>>> bell pepper
> > >>>>>>> and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell
> > >>>>>>> peppers. The carrot
> > >>>>>>> does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of
> > >>>>>>> the more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a
> > >>>>>>> particularly good substitute for green bell papper's slight
> > >>>>>>> bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> > >>>>>>> green bell pepper sub?
> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them
> > out >>>> of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least
> > try a bit. >>>> After all, >> when she grows up other people will
> > prepare dishes >>>> that contain bell >> peppers.
> > > On 17-Dec-2018, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> l not -l wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > >>> On 16-Dec-2018, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > >>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:23:20 GMT, l not -l wrote:
> > > > > >
> > >>>>> On 16-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > >>>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:33:38 GMT, "l not -l"
> > <lal...@cujo.com> >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>> My daughter does not eat bell peppers. In preparing dishes
> > >>>>>>> for out Sunday
> > >>>>>>> family meals, I occasionally prepare something that calls
> > for >>>>>>> bell pepper
> > >>>>>>> and generally substitute carrot for red or orange bell
> > >>>>>>> peppers. The carrot
> > >>>>>>> does a fine job substituting for the color and sweetness of
> > >>>>>>> the more colorful bell peppers. However, I have not found a
> > >>>>>>> particularly good substitute for green bell papper's slight
> > >>>>>>> bitterness. Any ideas for a good
> > >>>>>>> green bell pepper sub?
> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>> No. Make a different dish or have your daughter pick them
> > out >>>> of her >> food. A small child should learn to at least
> > try a bit. >>>> After all, >> when she grows up other people will
> > prepare dishes >>>> that contain bell >> peppers.
> > >>>>> She's 39 years old and avoids bell peppers due to a medical
> > >>>>> condition.
> > > > > > >
> > >>>>> condition.
> > > > > > >
> > >> Have you tried File' powder? I seem to recall a faint
> > bitterness. >> BTW, if you sometimes need the texture, I think you
> > will find cubed >> brocolli stems will work well. Asian types are
> > particularily good just >> washed and sprinkled in a salad. I do
> > that all the time because they >> cost less here than bell peppers.
> > > I do have file' and use it in gumbo. I wonder if it might
> > > over-power because of its strong sassafras/rootbeer flavor.
> > >
> > Chiming in rather late, I don't think file' (ground sassafras root)
> > would work as a sub for green bell peppers. There's a reason it's
> > used sparingly and added at the end of making gumbo. The chopped
> > broccoli stems sound like a credible answer, as did chopped cabbage.
> The cabbage did work fine and I agree the broccoli stems sound like
> they might also. I will try the broccoli stems sometime and see what
> > bitterness. >> BTW, if you sometimes need the texture, I think you
> > will find cubed >> brocolli stems will work well. Asian types are
> > particularily good just >> washed and sprinkled in a salad. I do
> > that all the time because they >> cost less here than bell peppers.
> > > I do have file' and use it in gumbo. I wonder if it might
> > > over-power because of its strong sassafras/rootbeer flavor.
> > >
> > Chiming in rather late, I don't think file' (ground sassafras root)
> > would work as a sub for green bell peppers. There's a reason it's
> > used sparingly and added at the end of making gumbo. The chopped
> > broccoli stems sound like a credible answer, as did chopped cabbage.
> The cabbage did work fine and I agree the broccoli stems sound like
> I think.
Good! Always try something new and see if it works! Depending on the
dish, you may find the thicker stems of alternative cabbage family
items work too (Bok Choy would be the main guess). Thats more a
texture fix.
cshenk
Dec 22, 2018, 8:52:18 PM12/22/18
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that Broccoli stems works for the texture and color and the flavor,
while not the same, seems to fit. It really depends on the dish and
level of cooking the food will get as to what will come closest.
Laugh if you will (hopefully with me, not at me) but I've been so many
places in my life, that 'subbing' is second nature to me. I never
blame the original recipe if my subs didnt work but mostly, they do.
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