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S Viemeister

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Mar 7, 2023, 3:10:13 PM3/7/23
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How are egg prices where you are?

I was pleasantly surprised when doing my grocery shopping yesterday -
extra-large eggs were down to $2.85 per dozen.
This was in northern New Jersey.

Bruce

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Mar 7, 2023, 3:18:21 PM3/7/23
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That's exactly what we paid for a dozen free range eggs yesterday
(converted to US dollars, of course).

Michael Trew

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Mar 7, 2023, 5:08:35 PM3/7/23
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I haven't checked in a week or two. I have half a dozen left, still.
Hopefully, I'll have a good surprise at the store as well.

Bruce

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Mar 7, 2023, 5:31:09 PM3/7/23
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In the EU, cage eggs are banned. In a slightly less civilised country
like Australia, they're still allowed. As you all know, I'm strongly
against bashing the US, so I won't mention that country in this
context.

The barbaric Ukrainians still have lots of cage egg factories and the
EU ban on cage eggs doesn't apply to food items that have eggs as an
ingredient. Until that's addressed, consumers with a heart are advised
to avoid food items where the ingredient list doesn't specifically say
"free range eggs".

dsi1

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Mar 7, 2023, 5:31:43 PM3/7/23
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It's about 7 bucks/dozen on this rock. The ones I got last time was pretty goofy - they looked like sick eggs.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/SLkswGEXEgqLNUgZ8

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 7, 2023, 5:37:29 PM3/7/23
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$4.89/dozen for name-brand (Eggland's Best) XL eggs last Friday.

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S Viemeister

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Mar 7, 2023, 6:19:51 PM3/7/23
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On 07/03/2023 22:30, Bruce wrote:

> In the EU, cage eggs are banned. In a slightly less civilised country
> like Australia, they're still allowed. As you all know, I'm strongly
> against bashing the US, so I won't mention that country in this
> context.
>
> The barbaric Ukrainians still have lots of cage egg factories and the
> EU ban on cage eggs doesn't apply to food items that have eggs as an
> ingredient. Until that's addressed, consumers with a heart are advised
> to avoid food items where the ingredient list doesn't specifically say
> "free range eggs".
>
The eggs I bought are from a local, family-run egg farm, which claims
its products are cage-free and organic.

Bruce

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Mar 7, 2023, 6:33:27 PM3/7/23
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That's great and also a great price.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Mar 7, 2023, 8:08:49 PM3/7/23
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$4.39 per dozen jumbo eggs at Kroger.
$2.86 per dozen jumbo eggs at Walmart.

Bruce

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Mar 7, 2023, 8:16:43 PM3/7/23
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All cage eggs, knowing you.

Thomas

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Mar 7, 2023, 8:16:46 PM3/7/23
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3.59 jumbo, down a buck.
Butter up a buck 25.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 7, 2023, 9:15:11 PM3/7/23
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BJs has 3 dozen X-Large for $10.99. 5 dozen large for #14.49.
2 dozen cage free for $8.69
Breaks down to per egg .305, .245, .362. Not long ago they were over
50 cents.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Mar 7, 2023, 9:20:29 PM3/7/23
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I guess. I never hear any chickens cackling in the back of the store
where supplies are delivered.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Mar 7, 2023, 9:22:11 PM3/7/23
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On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:16:46 PM UTC-6, Thomas wrote:
>
> 3.59 jumbo, down a buck.
> Butter up a buck 25.
>
Yeah, butter is through the roof here, too. I'm well stocked but I'm sure
my brother and sister-in-law will be stocking up if they have any sales
around Easter.

Bruce

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Mar 7, 2023, 10:19:07 PM3/7/23
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 18:20:26 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:16:43 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 17:08:45 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >$4.39 per dozen jumbo eggs at Kroger.
>> >$2.86 per dozen jumbo eggs at Walmart.
>> >
>> All cage eggs, knowing you.
>>
>I guess. I never hear any chickens cackling in the back of the store
>where supplies are delivered.

You've perfectly described yourself with one post :)

Gary

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Mar 8, 2023, 8:23:07 AM3/8/23
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I bought an 18-count Eggland's Best a couple of months ago.
They actually cost about 30 cents less than the cheap store brand
at the time. (Normally more expensive)

They're "Vegetarian Fed Hens" with extra vitamins added to their feed.
No mention of Organic or Free-Range

On the package they say, "America's Superior Tasting Eggs"

Well, nothing superior tasting to me. Only difference I noticed was that
their shells were noticeably thicker/harder. Guess they get more calcium
in their feed.





Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 8, 2023, 9:02:16 AM3/8/23
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My husband thinks they taste better. I'm more than willing to humor him.
He also thinks the grocery-store brand cage-free eggs are tasty.
I see those are down to $2.89/dozen for XL. I'll probably switch to
those on Friday.

Eggland's has a cage-free line of eggs, and one of organic eggs.

Their website has some happy talk about how good their caged hens
have it.

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Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 8, 2023, 9:08:06 AM3/8/23
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Last week I bought some eggs from the local farm stand. Size varied
from X-large to small, but the one other difference was the shell. I
imagine you can put a caliper to check but much harder than the factory
eggs.

Did not cook or taste any different. Making soft boiled would have been
more difficult because of the size variation though.

dsi1

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Mar 8, 2023, 12:12:16 PM3/8/23
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I can spot a local egg quite easily. The yolk will have a reddish cast when compared to a mainland eggs. Things have been quite chaotic in the egg market for the last year. The eggs are just funny. Mostly they just look and act weird. They seem to be of low quality. The good news is that local eggs are now the same price as mainland eggs. The bad news is that they're over $6/dozen.

Bruce

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Mar 8, 2023, 1:40:56 PM3/8/23
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 08:23:03 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 3/7/2023 5:37 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-03-07, S Viemeister <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>> How are egg prices where you are?
>>>
>>> I was pleasantly surprised when doing my grocery shopping yesterday -
>>> extra-large eggs were down to $2.85 per dozen.
>>> This was in northern New Jersey.
>>
>> $4.89/dozen for name-brand (Eggland's Best) XL eggs last Friday.
>
>I bought an 18-count Eggland's Best a couple of months ago.
>They actually cost about 30 cents less than the cheap store brand
>at the time. (Normally more expensive)
>
>They're "Vegetarian Fed Hens" with extra vitamins added to their feed.
>No mention of Organic or Free-Range

Money > Animal welfare

dsi1

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Mar 8, 2023, 1:44:54 PM3/8/23
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Money > Human welfare.

That's the breaks.

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Mar 8, 2023, 2:40:47 PM3/8/23
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Michael Trew

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Mar 9, 2023, 12:21:22 AM3/9/23
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On 3/8/2023 9:02, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-03-08, Gary<g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I bought an 18-count Eggland's Best a couple of months ago.
>> They actually cost about 30 cents less than the cheap store brand
>> at the time. (Normally more expensive)
>
> My husband thinks they taste better. I'm more than willing to humor him.
> He also thinks the grocery-store brand cage-free eggs are tasty.
> I see those are down to $2.89/dozen for XL. I'll probably switch to
> those on Friday.

I've heard people tell me that EB taste better. I haven't noticed a
difference myself, either, but I did recently buy that brand instead of
the store brand. As Gary said, EB was actually cheaper than the store
brand, which usually doesn't happen.

Why buy XL eggs? My grandmother buys the Jumbo ones... I don't get it.
Unless you're only frying or boiling them, about every recipe is sized
for Large eggs; which is all that I buy.

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 12:31:40 AM3/9/23
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On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 00:21:17 -0500, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 3/8/2023 9:02, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-03-08, Gary<g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought an 18-count Eggland's Best a couple of months ago.
>>> They actually cost about 30 cents less than the cheap store brand
>>> at the time. (Normally more expensive)
>>
>> My husband thinks they taste better. I'm more than willing to humor him.
>> He also thinks the grocery-store brand cage-free eggs are tasty.
>> I see those are down to $2.89/dozen for XL. I'll probably switch to
>> those on Friday.
>
>I've heard people tell me that EB taste better.

I've never tried eating an Eastern brown.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 9, 2023, 12:32:55 AM3/9/23
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On 3/9/2023 12:21 AM, Michael Trew wrote:

>
> Why buy XL eggs?  My grandmother buys the Jumbo ones... I don't get it.
>  Unless you're only frying or boiling them, about every recipe is sized
> for Large eggs; which is all that I buy.


Why not buy them? The difference in a recipe is so small you won't see
the difference. It is .25 per egg. They are one of the better values
at BJs the way they are packed and fit in the fridge.

Medium eggs must be a minimum of 21 ounces per dozen.
Large eggs must be a minimum of 24 ounces per dozen.
Extra-large eggs must be a minimum of 27 ounces per dozen.
Jumbo eggs must be a minimum of 30 ounces per dozen.

Michael Trew

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Mar 9, 2023, 12:52:29 AM3/9/23
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Can't have enough butter!! ;)

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 12:58:17 AM3/9/23
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Joan suffers from butter angst :)

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:15:43 AM3/9/23
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On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 11:21:22 PM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> On 3/8/2023 9:02, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > My husband thinks they taste better. I'm more than willing to humor him.
> > He also thinks the grocery-store brand cage-free eggs are tasty.
> > I see those are down to $2.89/dozen for XL. I'll probably switch to
> > those on Friday.
>
> Why buy XL eggs? My grandmother buys the Jumbo ones... I don't get it.
> Unless you're only frying or boiling them, about every recipe is sized
> for Large eggs; which is all that I buy.
>
Jumbo eggs are usually the best bargain.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:18:38 AM3/9/23
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Nah, I'm good. My brother and sister-in-law are suffering from butter
angst. But I'll keep my eye out for any sales that I can share with them.

dsi1

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:24:05 AM3/9/23
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I haven't noticed any difference in the taste of mainland eggs vs local eggs. The local eggs do look nicer color-wise. I made loco moco tonight. The great thing about this Hawaiian dish is that it can be made anywhere in the United States. That's a very good thing.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/RT6srBD19g8R2Ad16

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:32:55 AM3/9/23
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 22:24:01 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 7:21:22 PM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 3/8/2023 9:02, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On 2023-03-08, Gary<g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I bought an 18-count Eggland's Best a couple of months ago.
>> >> They actually cost about 30 cents less than the cheap store brand
>> >> at the time. (Normally more expensive)
>> >
>> > My husband thinks they taste better. I'm more than willing to humor him.
>> > He also thinks the grocery-store brand cage-free eggs are tasty.
>> > I see those are down to $2.89/dozen for XL. I'll probably switch to
>> > those on Friday.
>> I've heard people tell me that EB taste better. I haven't noticed a
>> difference myself, either, but I did recently buy that brand instead of
>> the store brand. As Gary said, EB was actually cheaper than the store
>> brand, which usually doesn't happen.
>>
>> Why buy XL eggs? My grandmother buys the Jumbo ones... I don't get it.
>> Unless you're only frying or boiling them, about every recipe is sized
>> for Large eggs; which is all that I buy.
>
>I haven't noticed any difference in the taste of mainland eggs vs local eggs.

So "they seem to be of low quality" but taste the same?

Gary

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Mar 9, 2023, 5:33:44 AM3/9/23
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We've talked about the high price of eggs.
What happened to cause the high price of butter?
Other dairy products seem stable, why only butter skyrocketing?




Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 9, 2023, 5:34:28 AM3/9/23
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I don't bake. Egg size doesn't matter.

XL seems to suit us best. Two XL eggs are plenty; I usually scramble,
although a few times a year I boil. My husband likes over easy.

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Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 9, 2023, 8:56:31 AM3/9/23
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Is google broken where you are?

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Dave Smith

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Mar 9, 2023, 9:28:25 AM3/9/23
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My wife prefers Jumbo eggs but it is because she likes boiled eggs and
timing the desired texture is affected by the size.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 9, 2023, 9:38:27 AM3/9/23
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I eat breakfast late in the morning. I vary type, depending on mood.
With scrambled, sometimes plain, sometimes with cheese, other times with
dried toasted onions. May even put a shot of ketchup on them.

At least once a week, I boil four eggs, 2 soft today, 2 left in the pan
for hard the next day.

When I make "over easy" I don't flip them. Instead, I put a lid on the
pan and it cooks the top snot perfectly. Enough butter so they slide
from pan to plate easily.

Dave Smith

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Mar 9, 2023, 11:33:45 AM3/9/23
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On 2023-03-09 9:38 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:


> I eat breakfast late in the morning.  I vary type, depending on mood.
> With scrambled, sometimes plain, sometimes with cheese, other times with
> dried toasted onions.  May even put a shot of ketchup on them.

I usually only have eggs for brunch or lunch.

> At least once a week, I boil four eggs, 2 soft today, 2 left in the pan
> for hard the next day.

That's what my wife does. She cooks at least 4, has two of them soft
boiled and the rest sit to be hard boiled.


> When I make "over easy" I don't flip them. Instead, I put a lid on the
> pan and it cooks the top snot perfectly.  Enough butter so they slide
> from pan to plate easily.

I prefer them the way you do them. I don't do eggs over because I like
the runny yolk. My most common egg meal is with spinach. I put some
butter in the pan and wilt some spinach. Then I pour in the eggs that
have been been with a bit of Trinidad hot sauce and scramble them.


I recommend inexpensive vegetable oil when sauteing kale and enough oil
to make sure it doesn't stick at all. When it's cooked it will slide
easily into the garbage can.




dsi1

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Mar 9, 2023, 11:55:18 AM3/9/23
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I just get the large eggs - the really big eggs seems unnatural to me. Most of the eggs in the market are just large anyway. My dad's in-laws owned a papaya farm and used to give him some off-grade fruits. Those things were scary-large. It tasted the same. Scary-large papayas are a good thing.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Mar 9, 2023, 11:57:47 AM3/9/23
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Since stating the price of eggs at Walmart and Kroger on Tuesday the price
for one dozen jumbos have dropped to $2.82 at Wally World while the price
has remained the same at Kroger.

heyjoe

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Mar 9, 2023, 12:16:48 PM3/9/23
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itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote :

> Since stating the price of eggs at Walmart and Kroger on Tuesday the price
> for one dozen jumbos have dropped to $2.82 at Wally World while the price
> has remained the same at Kroger.

Aldi's cage free CA SEFS Compliant large eggs were $4.19 per dozen.
Aldi's low price large egss were $2.33 per dozen.
Aldi usually has the lowest egg prices in town and we didn't look any
place else.

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Dave Smith

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Mar 9, 2023, 12:42:10 PM3/9/23
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It's not unusual for eggs to be different sizes. It's many a function of
age of the layer. FWIW my next door neighbour started raising chickens
last year and have been selling eggs. When they first started laying the
eggs were mostly small. Now they are mostly extra large. Curiously,
they vary in colour. Most of them are ecru, but every once in a while a
couple of them will be pale green or pale blue.

dsi1

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Mar 9, 2023, 12:59:09 PM3/9/23
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You're certainly right about that. Here's a large market egg next to a wild feral egg. Those wild chickens aren't up to snuff next to professional layer hens. That's amateurs for you - clearly inferior!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PeBWojGFpDjB4G167

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:04:23 PM3/9/23
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On 2023-03-09, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> I recommend inexpensive vegetable oil when sauteing kale and enough oil
> to make sure it doesn't stick at all. When it's cooked it will slide
> easily into the garbage can.

Thanks. I've just put kale on my shopping list. I'll saute it in
good olive oil with some garlic and put it in my mouth.

Chard, on the other hand, would get the treatment you described.

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f...@sdf.org

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:08:46 PM3/9/23
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On 2023-03-09, heyjoe <add...@is.invalid> wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote :

>> I recommend inexpensive vegetable oil when sauteing kale and enough oil
>> to make sure it doesn't stick at all. When it's cooked it will slide
>> easily into the garbage can.

> That sounds like the best way to do kale.

so much kale hate lol.

i eat a couple bunches of it every week with spinach in salads sometimes
with a little romaine or iceberg lettuce.

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Dave Smith

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:14:13 PM3/9/23
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I should make too much of kale because the times I have had the it I
didn't mind it at all. Swiss Chard OTOH was horrible. I had an open mind
and gave it an honest try, but it was nasty.

dsi1

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:14:43 PM3/9/23
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Thanks, I've always had some reservations about preparing kale. It always seemed to come out nasty. I'm going to try out your recipe straightaway!

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:35:03 PM3/9/23
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You're the Google Queen. You can answer his question.

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:39:20 PM3/9/23
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 12:42:03 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-03-09 11:55 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 4:28:25 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>> Jumbo eggs are usually the best bargain.
>>> My wife prefers Jumbo eggs but it is because she likes boiled eggs
>>> and timing the desired texture is affected by the size.
>>
>> I just get the large eggs - the really big eggs seems unnatural to
>> me. Most of the eggs in the market are just large anyway. My dad's
>> in-laws owned a papaya farm and used to give him some off-grade
>> fruits. Those things were scary-large. It tasted the same.
>> Scary-large papayas are a good thing.
>
>It's not unusual for eggs to be different sizes.

Thanks, Dave. Interesting.

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:40:39 PM3/9/23
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On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 18:08:40 GMT, f...@sdf.org wrote:

>On 2023-03-09, heyjoe <add...@is.invalid> wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote :
>
>>> I recommend inexpensive vegetable oil when sauteing kale and enough oil
>>> to make sure it doesn't stick at all. When it's cooked it will slide
>>> easily into the garbage can.
>
>> That sounds like the best way to do kale.
>
>so much kale hate lol.
>
>i eat a couple bunches of it every week with spinach in salads sometimes
>with a little romaine or iceberg lettuce.

There's not much wrong with kale. You just have to know how to use it.

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 1:46:40 PM3/9/23
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There's nothing wrong with chard or kale. Y'all need a good famine.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Mar 9, 2023, 2:08:58 PM3/9/23
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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 11:16:48 AM UTC-6, heyjoe wrote:
>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote :
> >
> > Since stating the price of eggs at Walmart and Kroger on Tuesday the price
> > for one dozen jumbos have dropped to $2.82 at Wally World while the price
> > has remained the same at Kroger.
> >
> Aldi's cage free CA SEFS Compliant large eggs were $4.19 per dozen.
> Aldi's low price large egss were $2.33 per dozen.
> Aldi usually has the lowest egg prices in town and we didn't look any
> place else.
>
I have bought eggs at Aldi in the past, but their large eggs are the at the lowest
weight for that size and still can be sold as large. Place a jumbo egg next to
their large size and you'd swear that Aldi egg was a medium egg.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Mar 9, 2023, 2:11:58 PM3/9/23
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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:40:39 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> There's not much wrong with kale. You just have to know how to use it.
>
I've only ever eaten it in salads with other greens. It wasn't bad at all.

S Viemeister

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Mar 9, 2023, 2:17:25 PM3/9/23
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It's a family favourite here.
Also - if you grow your own, like leaf lettuce, you can just pick the
leaves you need, and the plant will continue to produce, rather than
harvesting an entire head.

S Viemeister

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Mar 9, 2023, 2:19:46 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 18:46, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 13:14:06 -0500, Dave Smith
I assumed we'd all like chard, and planted a nice selection of colours.
It looked pretty on the compost heap.

We do like kale, though.

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 2:21:28 PM3/9/23
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This is the traditional Dutch (and maybe not just Dutch) way to eat
it:
https://www.vangeldernederland.nl/static/uploads/pictures/large/820303-boerenkool.jpg

f...@sdf.org

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Mar 9, 2023, 2:21:44 PM3/9/23
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i cut it off the stalks, coarsely chiffonade and toss it in a bowl. once
in a while we'll use it in cooking. my wife doesn't care much for it but
doesn't have any hate for it either, she'll eat it but not raw like i do.
collard greens she hates. no matter how it is prepared she'd rather it
get tossed in the compost pile. i love it, is more for me. :)

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 9, 2023, 2:50:15 PM3/9/23
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It's basically beet greens. Chard tastes like beets.

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Dave Smith

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Mar 9, 2023, 3:01:48 PM3/9/23
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The corner baker coffee shop occasionally has a Portuguese potato, kale
and sausage soup and it is delicious..... even the kale part of it.

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 3:02:03 PM3/9/23
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I don't see what's not to like, but to each their own, as the
philosopher said.

Dave Smith

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Mar 9, 2023, 3:06:42 PM3/9/23
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Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 9, 2023, 3:12:40 PM3/9/23
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I'd try it but load it up with grated Parmesan cheese first.

Dave Smith

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Mar 9, 2023, 3:14:50 PM3/9/23
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On 2023-03-09 2:50 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-03-09, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-09 1:04 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2023-03-09, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I recommend inexpensive vegetable oil when sauteing kale and enough oil
>>>> to make sure it doesn't stick at all. When it's cooked it will slide
>>>> easily into the garbage can.
>>>
>>> Thanks. I've just put kale on my shopping list. I'll saute it in
>>> good olive oil with some garlic and put it in my mouth.
>>>
>>> Chard, on the other hand, would get the treatment you described.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I should make too much of kale because the times I have had the it I
>> didn't mind it at all. Swiss Chard OTOH was horrible. I had an open mind
>> and gave it an honest try, but it was nasty.
>
> It's basically beet greens. Chard tastes like beets.
>
I have had beet tops in mixed greens. They have a distinct flavour,
beet-like but not too strong. Chard is in the beet family but not the
same as beets. The Swiss Chard I had was just plain nasty. It was
disappointing because it looked so nice and colourful.


Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 3:32:24 PM3/9/23
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Traditionally, you'd make a well in the kale/potato mash, pour gravy
into the well and add a sausage.
<https://www.savorysweets.nl/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/F7D2EDF1-7912-4295-A0AF-A8E49362CAAF-768x959.jpg>

Not haute cuisine, but food for during winter.

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 3:34:27 PM3/9/23
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 15:14:43 -0500, Dave Smith
Isn't it the same plant, but selected for leaf quality, rather than
root quality?

Tasmanians call chard spinach and call spinach English spinach.

S Viemeister

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Mar 9, 2023, 4:14:31 PM3/9/23
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With potatoes, yes?
Also popular in Scotland, and I believe Ireland, too.

S Viemeister

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Mar 9, 2023, 4:19:58 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 19:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-03-09, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-09 1:04 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2023-03-09, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I recommend inexpensive vegetable oil when sauteing kale and enough oil
>>>> to make sure it doesn't stick at all. When it's cooked it will slide
>>>> easily into the garbage can.
>>>
>>> Thanks. I've just put kale on my shopping list. I'll saute it in
>>> good olive oil with some garlic and put it in my mouth.
>>>
>>> Chard, on the other hand, would get the treatment you described.
>>>
>> I should make too much of kale because the times I have had the it I
>> didn't mind it at all. Swiss Chard OTOH was horrible. I had an open mind
>> and gave it an honest try, but it was nasty.
>
> It's basically beet greens. Chard tastes like beets.
>
Yes. That's why none of us eat it. It's pretty, though.

Vanessa Jonck

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Mar 9, 2023, 4:28:03 PM3/9/23
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dsi1

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Mar 9, 2023, 4:35:40 PM3/9/23
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I have seen squid luau made with kale instead of taro (luau) leaves. I'll have to try it. Mostly you boil kale in coconut milk. The funny thing about squid luau made with kale is that it contains neither squid nor luau leaves. More properly, it should be called octopus kale.

https://www.facebook.com/FoodlandHawaii/posts/come-hungry-kale-squid-luau-spotted-at-our-foodland-farms-ala-moana-hot-bar-perf/10156940028306702/

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 4:35:49 PM3/9/23
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 21:14:26 +0000, S Viemeister
Yes, with potatoes.

Hank Rogers

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Mar 9, 2023, 4:39:31 PM3/9/23
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That may not be potatos and sausage. My grandmother used to use the
expression "cold kale and calf shit" when I asked her what was for
supper.


Hank Rogers

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Mar 9, 2023, 4:42:13 PM3/9/23
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Leave out the cheese, and use it as an enema. Master druce will
appreciate that.


MaribelSpence

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Mar 9, 2023, 6:30:18 PM3/9/23
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> S Viemeister wrote:
> How are egg prices where you are?
>
> I was pleasantly surprised when doing my grocery shopping yesterday
-
> extra-large eggs were down to $2.85 per dozen.
> This was in northern New Jersey.

I don't think much about
the price of eggs, it's easy for me, my father is a farmer. And I get
the eggs for free. It's so convenient for me, I always have eggs at my
fingertips.


This is a response to the post seen at:
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=639739846#639739846


GM

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Mar 9, 2023, 7:07:52 PM3/9/23
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MaribelSpence wrote:

> > S Viemeister wrote:
> > How are egg prices where you are?
> >
> > I was pleasantly surprised when doing my grocery shopping yesterday
> -
> > extra-large eggs were down to $2.85 per dozen.
> > This was in northern New Jersey.
>
> I don't think much about
> the price of eggs, it's easy for me, my father is a farmer. And I get
> the eggs for free. It's so convenient for me, I always have eggs at my
> fingertips.


Maribel, honey, do you also have **penises** at your fingertips...???

I bet a gal like you is pretty adept at giving hand jobbies... *and* with your moist mouth
eagerly providing the "lubrication"...

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Mar 9, 2023, 9:12:42 PM3/9/23
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Nailed it!

Sqwertz

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Mar 9, 2023, 9:21:36 PM3/9/23
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 20:10:06 +0000, S Viemeister wrote:

> How are egg prices where you are?
>
> I was pleasantly surprised when doing my grocery shopping yesterday -
> extra-large eggs were down to $2.85 per dozen.
> This was in northern New Jersey.

And what has changed to alleviate the prices? Absolutely noting.

It was a market manipulation. The egg industry has done it a
dozen times previously. They're getting greedier now, though.
They will keep doing this. And it encourages others to do the the
same.

-sw

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 9, 2023, 9:47:27 PM3/9/23
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On 2023-03-07, S Viemeister <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
> How are egg prices where you are?

> I was pleasantly surprised when doing my grocery shopping yesterday -
> extra-large eggs were down to $2.85 per dozen.
> This was in northern New Jersey.


$5.99 per dozen at Walmart here on March 6th. *But*, they're cage-free!
That doesn't seem like a deal. I don't give a rat's a** if they're
cage-free.

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 10:07:39 PM3/9/23
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Huh? You like that post by that retard? Are you 10 years old?

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 10:17:36 PM3/9/23
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On 10 Mar 2023 02:47:22 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
Of course you don't. You only care about yourself and your wallet.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 9, 2023, 10:29:09 PM3/9/23
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On 2023-03-09, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> There's nothing wrong with chard or kale. Y'all need a good famine.


So do you. Famine would rip you out of your food ideology. Ideology or
life, which would you pick?
Pssssst, if you pick ideology, you're an idiot.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 9, 2023, 10:31:58 PM3/9/23
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On 2023-03-09, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 2023-03-09, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>> I should make too much of kale because the times I have had the it I
>> didn't mind it at all. Swiss Chard OTOH was horrible. I had an open mind
>> and gave it an honest try, but it was nasty.

> It's basically beet greens. Chard tastes like beets.


Where's Melba when we need her?

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 9, 2023, 11:18:13 PM3/9/23
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On 2023-03-10, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Of course you don't. You only care about yourself and your wallet.


Ain't sanctimony great! I almost wish I suffered from it. I could strut
around caring, not doing, and think highly of myself.
Oh, wait! You eat arthropods and vegetables, so that's something! You do
eat arthropods, right? Maybe fish with their big, staring eyes?

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 11:43:52 PM3/9/23
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On 10 Mar 2023 03:29:03 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Not wanting to kill animals is an ideology? Is not wanting to abuse
children also an ideology then?

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 11:46:22 PM3/9/23
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On 10 Mar 2023 04:18:06 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
You think not wanting to torture animals is sanctimonious. How sick is
that?

dsi1

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Mar 9, 2023, 11:47:34 PM3/9/23
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The last dozen eggs I got were local eggs for $6.19. The were indeed cage-free eggs. Beats the heck out of me what that means. Mostly, it's a marketing term used to sell eggs. I just buy the eggs according to price. They seem to be pretty good eggs. I am satisfied with their performance.

Bruce

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Mar 9, 2023, 11:49:20 PM3/9/23
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 20:47:30 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
Cage-free probably means factory chickens with no daylight. No cages,
but thousands stuffed into a big shed.

dsi1

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Mar 10, 2023, 12:03:50 AM3/10/23
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Our rock is pretty much cage-free chicken central. Live free or die hard!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tuc5Fqab7HXokZmn9

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 10, 2023, 12:36:47 AM3/10/23
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On 2023-03-10, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> You think not wanting to torture animals is sanctimonious. How sick is
> that?


Your whole spiel here is based on sanctimony. What else ya got? Do you
not think that killing fish and crustaceans is not as bad?
Is breathing oxygen out of water your criteria for cuisine? For shame!
Go to the back of the class! You're a killer. Does your wife know?

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 10, 2023, 12:43:37 AM3/10/23
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On 2023-03-10, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Not wanting to kill animals is an ideology? Is not wanting to abuse
> children also an ideology then?


That's perfect communist ideology. Equate something that has nothing
to do with something else, and expect the masses to buy in. Bravo!

Bruce

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Mar 10, 2023, 12:46:08 AM3/10/23
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 21:03:47 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
Feral chickens don't have much of a chance here, between (feral) dogs,
(feral) cats, snakes, goannas and eagles. I don't know how they
survive for any amount of time in Hawaii.

I think from bad to better is
caged
cage-free
free-range
Of course, how that's all legally defined and enforced differs per
country.

Bruce

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Mar 10, 2023, 12:48:11 AM3/10/23
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On 10 Mar 2023 05:36:40 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2023-03-10, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> You think not wanting to torture animals is sanctimonious. How sick is
>> that?
>
>Your whole spiel here is based on sanctimony. What else ya got? Do you
>not think that killing fish and crustaceans is not as bad?

I do and rarely eat them.

>Is breathing oxygen out of water your criteria for cuisine? For shame!
>Go to the back of the class! You're a killer. Does your wife know?

I rarely eat fish or other seafood, but I'm not alone in the world.

Besides, you shouldn't preach. You'll eat anything that fits in your
pie hole.

Bruce

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Mar 10, 2023, 12:58:29 AM3/10/23
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On 10 Mar 2023 05:43:29 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
Lol, that has nothing to do with communism. The word "communist"
actually has a specific meaning. It doesn't mean "everything Leo
doesn't like".

dsi1

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Mar 10, 2023, 1:11:00 AM3/10/23
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That's your rock, not my rock. The cats and chickens have mostly learned to live with one another. I can't say how that works but the chickens eat bugs and the cats aren't eating the chickens. I see less cats around than there were a decade ago. Perhaps the chickens are eating the cats. We don't have any feral dogs around here. Eagles? I wish!

Bruce

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Mar 10, 2023, 1:17:04 AM3/10/23
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 22:10:57 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
Good for the chickens. Maybe cats only attack chicks, not adult
chickens.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 10, 2023, 2:13:52 AM3/10/23
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On 2023-03-10, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Besides, you shouldn't preach. You'll eat anything that fits in your
> pie hole.


Yup! Except offal. I ain't nuts on guts. I do eat hot dogs.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 10, 2023, 2:18:44 AM3/10/23
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On 2023-03-10, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Lol, that has nothing to do with communism. The word "communist"
> actually has a specific meaning. It doesn't mean "everything Leo
> doesn't like".


Explain communism.

Bruce

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Mar 10, 2023, 2:47:13 AM3/10/23
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On 10 Mar 2023 07:13:45 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
So you eat offal.

Bruce

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Mar 10, 2023, 2:48:14 AM3/10/23
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On 10 Mar 2023 07:18:37 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism>

Bruce

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Mar 10, 2023, 3:15:55 AM3/10/23
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On 10 Mar 2023 07:18:37 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
PS: You snip too much. You remove the entire conversation. It doesn't
make sense anymore.

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 10, 2023, 5:30:39 AM3/10/23
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a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and
leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and
each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

It would appear to have nothing to do with
>That's perfect communist ideology. Equate something that has nothing
>to do with something else, and expect the masses to buy in. Bravo!

I think the word you needed was "marketing". For example, the
various "smoking will make you sexy" advertising campaigns. Or
"our perfume shows you have good taste".

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