Baby Lima Bean Soup

[Julie Bove]

I made this last night with the following changes. 10 strips of regular
bacon instead of the pancetta, no cayenne and a small can of tomato sauce
with a sprinkle of Italian seasoning as I had no Marinara.

https://2sistersrecipes.com/baby-lima-bean-soup/

The beans must have been very fresh. At one hour, they were slightly
overcooked. I tasted for seasonings. Added black pepper. Tasted great! Added
the tomato sauce and... Not so great. Might taste better when I reheat it
tonight. I didn't eat any last night. Just tasted it.

Pretty sure if I make it again, I'll leave out the tomato.

[Sheldon Martin]

Good move, limas and tomato are TIAD. Limas are good with smoked ham
hocks. Where have you been hiding, I missed the midnight in Paris
scent of your bra. ;)

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye, angling for some poontang.

[Julie Bove]

"Sheldon Martin" <penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I don't like smoked foods or ham. The soup was actually very good after
sitting in the fridge all day. I did wear that scent once. I think I was 8.

[songbird]

so much in cooking is about personal preferences. nothing
there sounds bad to me, but i rarely do much to lima beans
because i love 'em as they are. a bit of butter is most often
and then once in a great while i'll add a bit of garlic salt.

as mixed vegetables are frequently used here as additions
to vegetable soups and the soup usually also has tomatoes
in it i've never had a problem with the lima beans in that
being messed up in flavor. so to me this does sound like a
personal preference.


songbird

[Sheldon Martin]

On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 00:49:10 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"Sheldon Martin" <penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:jnuvefp5cmumduk1v...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>
>>>I made this last night with the following changes. 10 strips of regular
>>>bacon instead of the pancetta, no cayenne and a small can of tomato sauce
>>>with a sprinkle of Italian seasoning as I had no Marinara.
>>>
>>>https://2sistersrecipes.com/baby-lima-bean-soup/
>>>
>>>The beans must have been very fresh. At one hour, they were slightly
>>>overcooked. I tasted for seasonings. Added black pepper. Tasted great!
>>>Added
>>>the tomato sauce and... Not so great. Might taste better when I reheat it
>>>tonight. I didn't eat any last night. Just tasted it.
>>>
>>>Pretty sure if I make it again, I'll leave out the tomato.
>>
>> Good move, limas and tomato are TIAD. Limas are good with smoked ham
>> hocks. Where have you been hiding, I missed the midnight in Paris
>> scent of your bra. ;)
>
>I don't like smoked foods or ham.

Um, bacon is smoked, and ten strips adds a lot of smoke flavor.

[jmcquown]

On 6/22/2020 8:06 AM, songbird wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I made this last night with the following changes. 10 strips of regular
>> bacon instead of the pancetta, no cayenne and a small can of tomato sauce
>> with a sprinkle of Italian seasoning as I had no Marinara.
>>
>> https://2sistersrecipes.com/baby-lima-bean-soup/
>>
>> The beans must have been very fresh. At one hour, they were slightly
>> overcooked. I tasted for seasonings. Added black pepper. Tasted great! Added
>> the tomato sauce and... Not so great. Might taste better when I reheat it
>> tonight. I didn't eat any last night. Just tasted it.
>>
>> Pretty sure if I make it again, I'll leave out the tomato.
>
> so much in cooking is about personal preferences. nothing
> there sounds bad to me, but i rarely do much to lima beans
> because i love 'em as they are. a bit of butter is most often
> and then once in a great while i'll add a bit of garlic salt.
>

I love limas, too. I don't even add butter to them. I prefer the big
Fordhook limas to baby limas. I disagree with the author's comment
"...lima beans alone have no flavor whatsoever!" Sure they do.

I love soups and would probably enjoy this one *almost* as it was
written in the link, using pancetta. I don't have any marinara sauce on
hand but I do have tomato paste, which was offered as an alternative. I
would *not* have used low-sodium chicken broth; that stuff is tasteless!
If a person is worried about sodium, just don't add as much salt to
the recipe (the amount of which wasn't specified, it just says "salt &
pepper to taste). I'd definitely have kept in the cayenne pepper. :)

> as mixed vegetables are frequently used here as additions
> to vegetable soups and the soup usually also has tomatoes
> in it i've never had a problem with the lima beans in that
> being messed up in flavor. so to me this does sound like a
> personal preference.
>
>
> songbird
>

I'm curious, songbird. Is the shift key on your keyboard broken? You
never use capital letters in your posts.

Jill

[Ophelia]

"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:rcopoi$nu2$1...@dont-email.me...

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I have plenty of dried beans in my store, I just don't really know what to
do with them:)

I am copying all the beans recipes I see here, so thanks:)

[Julie Bove]

"Sheldon Martin" <penm...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:oge1ffp8ohhu8umk7...@4ax.com...

No. It's only smoked if you buy smoked bacon. Durrrrrrrrr...

[songbird]

Ophelia wrote:
...

> I have plenty of dried beans in my store, I just don't really know what to
> do with them:)
>
> I am copying all the beans recipes I see here, so thanks:)

we mostly use them as filler or in burritoes. simple stuff
or even eat them plain, with butter or a little cheese.

if i feel like i want more spice then i get out some
oregano, garlic salt and cottage cheese and turn them into
mock lasagna filling (without the egg and parmesian cheese).

i just thawed out a jar of beans from our last pot that
we made and i don't know what i'm going to do with them
until it happens, but i have been craving oregano lately
so this may happen again soon.


songbird

[songbird]

jmcquown wrote:
...

> I love limas, too. I don't even add butter to them. I prefer the big
> Fordhook limas to baby limas. I disagree with the author's comment
> "...lima beans alone have no flavor whatsoever!" Sure they do.

yes, most bean varieties have different flavors and
textures so i am enjoying as many as i can find and grow.

this year i've planted 44 varieties and tests of some
varieties to see if they're the same bean or not. always
fun. :)

Fordhook Lima beans are one i've grown from the start.

> I love soups and would probably enjoy this one *almost* as it was
> written in the link, using pancetta. I don't have any marinara sauce on
> hand but I do have tomato paste, which was offered as an alternative. I
> would *not* have used low-sodium chicken broth; that stuff is tasteless!
> If a person is worried about sodium, just don't add as much salt to
> the recipe (the amount of which wasn't specified, it just says "salt &
> pepper to taste). I'd definitely have kept in the cayenne pepper. :)

...

> I'm curious, songbird. Is the shift key on your keyboard broken? You
> never use capital letters in your posts.

i don't take myself all that seriously. :) the big I
only gets used in more serious stuff. this isn't formal
writing, it's just informal to me and since i'm not being
paid to do it then i do it as it happens. i do try to
spell most of my words correctly and some efforts at
punctuation, but i can't claim perfection on sentence
structure or fragmentoids popping out or other tragedies.

formal names and place names i would capitalize. my
forgetting to use Lima is a mistake, but not critical...

like since you sign your posts Jill i would address you
by Jill and not jill.


songbird

[Ophelia]

"songbird" wrote in message news:rgt7sg-...@anthive.com...

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Enjoy:) I think I need to buy a cookbook for beans:)

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[songbird]

Ophelia wrote:
...

> Enjoy:) I think I need to buy a cookbook for beans:)

there's so much online and at the library that i'm
not sure i'd ever buy a cookbook again. i have a few
left here, but i gave away a lot of mine some years
ago to a neighbor who was a collector. then she moved
away and then passed away so those books are likely
someplace in California now if not thrown out or in
storage or donated to a library or sold off or... :)

enjoy! i'm waiting impatiently for the beans here
to get to green/yellow pod stage so we can have some
fresh steamed beans.


songbird

[bruce2...@gmail.com]

And add thinly sliced smoked sausage. Very good.

[Ophelia]

"songbird" wrote in message news:aja9sg-...@anthive.com...

Ophelia wrote:
...
> Enjoy:) I think I need to buy a cookbook for beans:)

there's so much online and at the library that i'm
not sure i'd ever buy a cookbook again. i have a few
left here, but i gave away a lot of mine some years
ago to a neighbor who was a collector. then she moved
away and then passed away so those books are likely
someplace in California now if not thrown out or in
storage or donated to a library or sold off or... :)

I have given away many cookbooks:) I had to do it when I
moved from a big house to a small cottage:( Didn't have the space and my
friends were delighted lol

enjoy! i'm waiting impatiently for the beans here
to get to green/yellow pod stage so we can have some
fresh steamed beans.


songbird

I have never thought to grow my own. I wonder if I can do it
here! I need to look that up!

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[songbird]

Ophelia wrote:
...

> I have never thought to grow my own. I wonder if I can do it
> here! I need to look that up!

i'm not sure how long a season you have there or
if you get enough light, but between peas and beans
i certainly enjoy growing and eating them in many
forms.

my main reason for gardening is meaningful exercise
as otherwise i would be inside too much and i hate
going to a gym or riding on a stationary bike or
walking on a treadmill. if i can hike or walk an
outdoor trail that is ok and i also like kayaking
and canoeing, but there's not much of that i want
to do around here (water is too slow and too
polluted).


songbird

[akowea...@gmail.com]

Ok

[cshenk]

LOL, I cook like that a lot. Decide when I'm cooking, what it will be.

[songbird]

cshenk wrote:
...

> LOL, I cook like that a lot. Decide when I'm cooking, what it will be.

it was a good lunch. :)

dinner was strawberries, whipped cream and chocolate sauce
and then a few pieces of cheese and ham. i'm not in the mood
to do complicated cooking lately - too busy outside.


songbird

[Julie Bove]

<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fb70bb95-4376-4a9a...@googlegroups.com...

Not for me. Don't like smoked foods or sausage.

[Ophelia]

"songbird" wrote in message news:0u4asg-...@anthive.com...

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That is a shame, but at least you have found something that suits you!

Do you plant the dried peas/beans whatever?

[songbird]

Ophelia wrote:
...

> Do you plant the dried peas/beans whatever?

i planted 12 kinds of peas this spring and not sure
if any of them were good or not, but to try them out.
very happy so far to see at least one kind is very
good for pods, but now i have to keep myself from
eating the rest of the pods because i need the seeds
for the next generation. :) some peas aren't all
that great cooked after they are dried, but they
can work as emergency rations if you run out of
everything else. i won't have enough of any that
i grew this year to even contemplate eating them
cooked after they're dried. it's a pretty small
patch.

for beans i planted 44 varieties/cross-breeds and
experiments this year, so some of them i know are
edible as both fresh beans and dry beans, some are
useful as shellies (beans taken from the pods when
they are still green and fresh before they have
started to dry) and those are good too. lima beans
are very good as shellies. anything we don't eat
fresh is usually edible as a dry bean.

more than 2/3rds of what i planted is edible as
fresh beans and most of those are also known to
be edible as dry beans too. i have to stock back
up. :) i don't know how many beans i planted
total but it was a few thousand. dunno how many
will give back results - that is what some of
the experimental and crosses were planted for to
figure out what they will do here.


songbird

[Ophelia]

"songbird" wrote in message news:ispbsg-...@anthive.com...

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Thanks very much for that:))

Do you plant the dried beans etc that you buy? Or do they have to be bought
specially for planting?

[Sheldon Martin]

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:09:04 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

You'll get better results with seed beans, they've been treated to
repel insects... just don't use them for cooking, usually the packet
warns not to consume them.

Last year I planted oriental long beans (yard longs), they are very
prolific and actually grow to 3' long. I didn't plant them this year
as there were way too many, tired of eating them. Some plants grew
green beans, some dark red. Those long beans grow in clusters of
about 6-8 beans.

[songbird]

Ophelia wrote:
...

> Do you plant the dried beans etc that you buy? Or do they have to be bought
> specially for planting?

when i started growing beans a quick way to get
varieties to try out was buying a 16 bean soup mix.
some of them did not grow at all, but the others
did ok.

eventually though i wanted more varieties so i've
bought some from seed companies and also done a lot of
trades with people on-line and at a few seed swaps.

i also cross-breed and select from what i harvest
what looks interesting. it can take a few years to
evaluate a bean to see what it does. i have a
variety of soil types to work with so that is also
a part of the evaluation process.

one thing i did this year was interplant a large
number of beans to encourage them to cross breed.
i won't know if any actually did until the seeds
from this year are planted and grown (the seed coat
from a cross shows the maternal color and pattern so
you have to plant them to see what comes next). with
as many seeds as i hope to get i'll never be able to
plant all of them so some crosses can happen and
won't be detected. just have to keep at it and keep
trying. :) since i don't hand-pollinate or isolate
plants the bugs/bees do all the crossing for me.


songbird

[Ophelia]

"songbird" wrote in message news:svdcsg-...@anthive.com...

Ophelia wrote:
...
> Do you plant the dried beans etc that you buy? Or do they have to be
> bought
> specially for planting?

when i started growing beans a quick way to get
varieties to try out was buying a 16 bean soup mix.
some of them did not grow at all, but the others
did ok.

----------------- Thanks, that sounds interesting!! I might just try
planting some of the beans I have:))) It's worth a try:))

eventually though i wanted more varieties so i've
bought some from seed companies and also done a lot of
trades with people on-line and at a few seed swaps.

i also cross-breed and select from what i harvest
what looks interesting. it can take a few years to
evaluate a bean to see what it does. i have a
variety of soil types to work with so that is also
a part of the evaluation process.

one thing i did this year was interplant a large
number of beans to encourage them to cross breed.
i won't know if any actually did until the seeds
from this year are planted and grown (the seed coat
from a cross shows the maternal color and pattern so
you have to plant them to see what comes next). with
as many seeds as i hope to get i'll never be able to
plant all of them so some crosses can happen and
won't be detected. just have to keep at it and keep
trying. :) since i don't hand-pollinate or isolate
plants the bugs/bees do all the crossing for me.


songbird

-------------------- Thanks very much:)) That is most helpful and I think
I will be trying to do it your way:))))

[songbird]

Ophelia wrote:
...source of beans...

> ----------------- Thanks, that sounds interesting!! I might just try
> planting some of the beans I have:))) It's worth a try:))

if they are old they may not sprout or they
may sprout and then die.

when you know you have good bean seeds they
will sprout faster when the soil gets warmer.

if you have trouble getting any to sprout at
all you may need to do it indoors where it is
warmer and then set them out.


...

> -------------------- Thanks very much:)) That is most helpful and I think
> I will be trying to do it your way:))))

well it is cheap enough as a bag of beans is
only a few $ here - and since we are a bean growing
region a lot of them may be even sort of local.

the problem i had with them though was that they
were too familiar to me and i wanted to get more
varieties more suited towards our micro-climate
and soils. each year i keep finding more to work
with so it is going well. :) and i do give a lot
of them away at the seed swap. that is also a
good way to get garden seeds and fun to meet
people.


songbird

[Ophelia]

"songbird" wrote in message news:svdcsg-...@anthive.com...

===

Thank you Very Much for that:)) You have given me the ideas to work
with:) I am very grateful:)))

[Ophelia]

"songbird" wrote in message news:0mvcsg-...@anthive.com...

Ophelia wrote:
...source of beans...
> ----------------- Thanks, that sounds interesting!! I might just try
> planting some of the beans I have:))) It's worth a try:))

if they are old they may not sprout or they
may sprout and then die.

when you know you have good bean seeds they
will sprout faster when the soil gets warmer.

if you have trouble getting any to sprout at
all you may need to do it indoors where it is
warmer and then set them out.

--------------- Thank you. All advice is very welcome:))

[Ophelia]

"Ophelia" wrote in message news:hlj5c0...@mid.individual.net...

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I am interested to see if they will actually grow here:) I don't really
mind what they are, because although I have some in my store, we have never
tried any:))

If I do manage to grow some, I will be back to get a recipe from you:))

[cshenk]

Been really busy at work too here, teleworking aside, because I've been
doing that essentially from my actual main office since 2009. It's just
the tools got better now and the others aren't used to it.

[jmcquown]

cshenk wrote:

> Been really busy at work too here, teleworking aside, because I've been
> doing that essentially from my actual main office since 2009. It's just
> the tools got better now and the others aren't used to it.

If you were *smart*, Carol, you'd figure out a way to sponge off of others for your living, like I did, lol...


Jill

[cshenk]

jmcquown wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
>
> > Been really busy at work too here, teleworking aside, because I've
> > been doing that essentially from my actual main office since 2009.
> > It's just the tools got better now and the others aren't used to it.
>
>

> If you were smart, Carol, you'd figure out a way to sponge off of

> others for your living, like I did, lol...
>
>
> Jill

From: "jmcquown" <gregorymorr...@gmail.com>

Greg Morrow, the loser pretending to be Jill.

So Greg, you sponged off others? Not too suprised.