How do you say cauliflower
Denise~*
I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
But when I hear it said with the "u" pronounced as a 'w' and a short
"i", like "ee"
cawleeflower
To me, this sounds very weird & makes me cringe.
Rachael Ray does this, & I just heard the lady on "Low Carb & Lovin
it" say the same thing, but then a minute later said it again, but
more like the way I do.
Is this a regional thing?
Or is it similar to replacing the "r" in library with an "e"
(ie; "libery"). Ug, my friend does this & it drives me nuts,
especially since she used to work at a Library.
Denise, Brian & Wyatt (May 31, 02)
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...
A true friend will be sitting next to you saying,
"Damn...that was fun!"
zxcvbob
> I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
>
> But when I hear it said with the "u" pronounced as a 'w' and a short
> "i", like "ee"
>
> cawleeflower
>
> To me, this sounds very weird & makes me cringe.
>
> Rachael Ray does this, & I just heard the lady on "Low Carb & Lovin
> it" say the same thing, but then a minute later said it again, but
> more like the way I do.
>
> Is this a regional thing?
>
> Or is it similar to replacing the "r" in library with an "e"
> (ie; "libery"). Ug, my friend does this & it drives me nuts,
> especially since she used to work at a Library.
>
>
When my daughter was about 3 years old and it was one of her favorite
foods, we called it "Carly-flower". (she had a friend named Carly).
You do what you gotta do to get kids to like vegetables.
Hope this helps, :-)
Bob
Nancy Young
>
> I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
>
> But when I hear it said with the "u" pronounced as a 'w' and a short
> "i", like "ee"
>
> cawleeflower
>
> To me, this sounds very weird & makes me cringe.
It's collie-flower, as everyone knows. (smile) I never heard it
called anything else.
> Or is it similar to replacing the "r" in library with an "e"
> (ie; "libery"). Ug, my friend does this & it drives me nuts,
> especially since she used to work at a Library.
Grrrr. But then I'm very busy being annoyed at people who say
'where's it at' ... I don't have time for the Libary people.
nancy
Peter Aitken
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>
> I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
>
> But when I hear it said with the "u" pronounced as a 'w' and a short
> "i", like "ee"
>
> cawleeflower
>
> To me, this sounds very weird & makes me cringe.
>
> Rachael Ray does this, & I just heard the lady on "Low Carb & Lovin
> it" say the same thing, but then a minute later said it again, but
> more like the way I do.
>
> Is this a regional thing?
>
No, it's a "correct" thing. At least my Webster's claims it is.
--
Peter Aitken
Remove the crap from my email address before using.
limey
"Nancy Young" wrote in message
> Denise~* wrote:
> >
> > I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
> >
> > But when I hear it said with the "u" pronounced as a 'w' and a short
> > "i", like "ee"
> >
> > cawleeflower
> >
> > To me, this sounds very weird & makes me cringe.
>
> It's collie-flower, as everyone knows. (smile) I never heard it
> called anything else.
>
Collie-flower to me, too.
Dora
jmcquown
Yep, collie-flower :)
Jill (who can't figure out where the LIBRARY is)
Denise~*
<pai...@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote:
>No, it's a "correct" thing. At least my Webster's claims it is.
So what you are saying is, it is correct to say the "i" in cauliflower
as an short "e" like the "i" in broccoli, instead of the 'I' in the
word "ick"
When I look on www.dictionary.com the Pronunciation Key for the "i"
in cauliflower is different than the "i" in broccoli
My Websters dictionary says the same thing.
This is what I'm talking about is people who stress the "i" like the
"i" in broccoli. This is not correct.
PENMART01
>I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
>
>But when I hear it said with the "u" pronounced as a 'w' and a short
>"i", like "ee"
>
>cawleeflower
>
>To me, this sounds very weird & makes me cringe.
Why are you asking here, and why does it matter here (no one here hears
anyone's pronunciation - fortunately). It's obvious you don't know how to use
a dictionary (unfortunately).
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Peter Aitken
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 22:19:02 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> <pai...@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >No, it's a "correct" thing. At least my Webster's claims it is.
>
> So what you are saying is, it is correct to say the "i" in cauliflower
> as an short "e" like the "i" in broccoli, instead of the 'I' in the
> word "ick"
Yep.
> When I look on www.dictionary.com the Pronunciation Key for the "i"
> in cauliflower is different than the "i" in broccoli
> My Websters dictionary says the same thing.
>
> This is what I'm talking about is people who stress the "i" like the
> "i" in broccoli. This is not correct.
>
It is according to my dictionary - which, since it seems to be different
from yours, tells me that the pronounciation is variable. But I will say
that it many years of living in the northeast and south I have heard your
version very rarely. The other poster who described it as "collie-flower"
hit the nail on the head, IMO.
Denise~*
<pai...@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote:
>It is according to my dictionary - which, since it seems to be different
>from yours, tells me that the pronounciation is variable. But I will say
>that it many years of living in the northeast and south I have heard your
>version very rarely. The other poster who described it as "collie-flower"
>hit the nail on the head, IMO.
It must be a regional thing then.
I have grown up my entire life hearing it my way, in the northWEST :-)
I think there is a song written on this very subject.
Mike Pearce
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>
> I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
>
Where did you grow up? I'm originally from Boston and have heard people from
both Rhode Island as well as western Mass use pronunciations like that. How
would you pronounce "talk"?
>
> Or is it similar to replacing the "r" in library with an "e"
> (ie; "libery"). Ug, my friend does this & it drives me nuts,
> especially since she used to work at a Library.
When I was younger I had the classic Boston accent. I dropped just about
every R except those at the beginning of a word. For someone with a Boston
accent it can be very difficult to pronounce properly are words with Rs in
the middle. Words like library and harbor. For me it used to be libery and
hahhba. Those words still give me trouble. I pronounce car just fine
though, unless I'm tired or excited. <g>
-Mike
Ray
I usually say, "Ewwww. Don't give me any Cauliflower."
"Mike Pearce" <mpearce...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Michael Odom
wrote:
>Grrrr. But then I'm very busy being annoyed at people who say
>'where's it at' ... I don't have time for the Libary people.
>
>nancy
An Aggie goes to Harvard. His first day there he gets lost. He stops
a passing professor and asks "Where's the library at?"
Prof replies "Son at Harvard we don't end a sentence with a
preposition."
"Okay, where's the library at, asshole?"
modom
"Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
-- Jimmie Dale Gilmore
sf
<den...@nexuscomputing.com> wrote:
> <pai...@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >No, it's a "correct" thing. At least my Webster's claims it is.
>
> So what you are saying is, it is correct to say the "i" in cauliflower
> as an short "e" like the "i" in broccoli, instead of the 'I' in the
> word "ick"
>
When you write a capital I, it's pronounced "eye".... but I
know you meant /ee/ as in "see"..
> When I look on www.dictionary.com the Pronunciation Key for the "i"
> in cauliflower is different than the "i" in broccoli
> My Websters dictionary says the same thing.
>
<Nodding> broccoli is pronounced brahK-O-lee
http://12.129.203.36/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=broccoli&x=18&y=12
> This is what I'm talking about is people who stress the "i" like the
> "i" in broccoli. This is not correct.
Correct. The "i" in cauliflower is a short "i" as in "ick"
and pig.
The only person I know of who calls it cawLEEflower is my
governator. The BIG difference among mere mortals is how to
pronounce the "au" part. Is it culliflower or calliflower?
I say culliflower.
sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments
jmcquown
Nonsense! The joke goes like this:
Two women in an airport, one of them from the south. She says to the
northern woman, where are you from? The northern woman looks down her nose
and says snootily "I am FROM a place where we don't end a sentence with a
preposition". The southern woman thinks for a moment, then says, "Okay,
where you from, Bitch?"
Jill
zxcvbob
I've always heard it as an Aggie joke. Pretty much just like Michael
told it. (it gets funnier every time I hear it)
Best regards,
Bob, Class of '82
sf
wrote:
> Why are you asking here, and why does it matter here (no one here hears
> anyone's pronunciation - fortunately). It's obvious you don't know how to use
> a dictionary (unfortunately).
That's a legitimate question, IMO. There are regional
differences with some vowels and sometimes the dictionary
acknowledges them.
It took me many years to stop pronouncing dragon and wagon
as drAgon and wAgon.
<s>
Denise~*
<mpearce...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Denise~*" wrote in message
>news:0hk2h095ee7jknmmi...@4ax.com...
>>
>> I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
>>
>
>Where did you grow up? I'm originally from Boston and have heard people from
Northwest. Born & raised
>both Rhode Island as well as western Mass use pronunciations like that. How
>would you pronounce "talk"?
Silent L & Flat A = Tahhk (but said quickly, no drawl)
>> Or is it similar to replacing the "r" in library with an "e"
>> (ie; "libery"). Ug, my friend does this & it drives me nuts,
>> especially since she used to work at a Library.
>
>When I was younger I had the classic Boston accent. I dropped just about
>every R except those at the beginning of a word. For someone with a Boston
>accent it can be very difficult to pronounce properly are words with Rs in
>the middle. Words like library and harbor. For me it used to be libery and
>hahhba. Those words still give me trouble. I pronounce car just fine
>though, unless I'm tired or excited. <g>
>
>-Mike
Hehe, but my friend lived 10 minutes from me by bicycle & also grew up
in the same area as me. I tease her about it & then we giggle.
I think it's different in your case with a strong accent.
The english (England) notoriously add an R to words that end in A.
I guess I'm just not used to hearing it over here.
Denise~*
>Correct. The "i" in cauliflower is a short "i" as in "ick"
>and pig.
Thank you, finally somebody who see's in my way :-)
-L. :
> I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
>
I'm with you.
Call-a-flower (flat "a"s), sort of.
-L.
(Born and raised in the midwest, transplanted all over the US, currently PNWer)
sf
<den...@nexuscomputing.com> wrote:
> I have grown up my entire life hearing it my way, in the northWEST :-)
Really??? They say Colleeflower up there? I don't believe
you!
I lived in the midwest and then california for most of my
life. The ONLY person I can think of who has ever said it
that way is "Arnie", the governator.
Denise~*
>> I have grown up my entire life hearing it my way, in the northWEST :-)
>
>Really??? They say Colleeflower up there? I don't believe
>you!
>
>I lived in the midwest and then california for most of my
>life. The ONLY person I can think of who has ever said it
>that way is "Arnie", the governator.
No, my way is the other way.
Nancree
for pronumciation of "cauliflower".
Nancree
sf
<den...@nexuscomputing.com> wrote:
> Silent L & Flat A = Tahhk (but said quickly, no drawl)
Rhyme: Hawk/talk
http://12.129.203.36/cgi-bin/dictionary
Julia Altshuler
> Two women in an airport, one of them from the south. She says to the
> northern woman, where are you from? The northern woman looks down her nose
> and says snootily "I am FROM a place where we don't end a sentence with a
> preposition". The southern woman thinks for a moment, then says, "Okay,
> where you from, Bitch?"
That's not the 2 women at the airport joke. That one goes like this:
Two women are chatting while waiting for a flight at the airport. One
says that she's from such a small town that no one ever locks their car
doors-- except in the summer. The other nods sympathetically and says
crime must increase in the tourist season. "No, no," exclaims the
other. "It's just that someone might come and fill it with zucchini."
--Lia
Mike Pearce
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> "Mike Pearce" wrote:
>
> >> I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
> >>
> >
> >Where did you grow up? I'm originally from Boston and have heard people
from
>
> Northwest. Born & raised
There goes my Notheast theory. I guess you just talk funny. <g>
>
> The english (England) notoriously add an R to words that end in A.
>
Same thing in Boston. Though a strong Boston accent isn't as common as it
was when I was a kid you'll hear people with the accent say "ideer" rather
than idea. I used to do it and still do on occasion.
-Mike
Nancy Dooley
> "Denise~*" <den...@nexuscomputing.com> wrote in message
> news:0hk2h095ee7jknmmi...@4ax.com...
> >
> > I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
> >
> > But when I hear it said with the "u" pronounced as a 'w' and a short
> > "i", like "ee"
> >
> > cawleeflower
> >
> > To me, this sounds very weird & makes me cringe.
> >
> > Rachael Ray does this, & I just heard the lady on "Low Carb & Lovin
> > it" say the same thing, but then a minute later said it again, but
> > more like the way I do.
> >
> > Is this a regional thing?
> >
>
> No, it's a "correct" thing. At least my Webster's claims it is.
I don't know anyone who says "caul-eee-flower." Around here, the i is
a short i, as in "bin." Call-i-flower.
N.
limey
"Denise~*" wrote in message >
> The english (England) notoriously add an R to words that end in A.
>
> I guess I'm just not used to hearing it over here.
>
> Denise, Brian & Wyatt (May 31, 02)
>
That's news to me, Denise. I say "ideah", and pronounce "war" with no
emphasis on the "r". Do you have examples - and what part of England,
since accents vary a great deal?
Dora
Derek N.P.F. Juhl
> I tend to say it with a long "a" like "ahh" and a flat "i", like "eh"
>
> But when I hear it said with the "u" pronounced as a 'w' and a short
> "i", like "ee"
I pronunce the first syllable "kah," and the "i" in the second
syllable as in "pit."
From www.dictionary.com :
cau·li·flow·er [Probably alteration (influenced by flower), of New
Latin cauliflora Latin caulis, stem + Latin fls, flr-, flower; see
flower.]
Derek Juhl
Default User
>
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:50:50 -0700, Denise~*
> <den...@nexuscomputing.com> wrote:
>
> > I have grown up my entire life hearing it my way, in the northWEST :-)
>
> Really??? They say Colleeflower up there? I don't believe
> you!
>
> I lived in the midwest and then california for most of my
> life. The ONLY person I can think of who has ever said it
> that way is "Arnie", the governator.
Hehe. I feel like I'm reading alt.usage.english. They love this kind of
thing.
BTW, I more or less schwa out that vowel, something like coll-uh-flower.
Brian Rodenborn
Bob Myers
"jmcquown" <jmcq...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> >> It's collie-flower, as everyone knows. (smile) I never heard it
> >> called anything else.
> >>
> >> nancy
> >
> > Collie-flower to me, too.
OK, so put me down as one vote "against," then; to
me, it's a lot more like "call-a-flower." The long "e"
sounds wrong to me, too.
This most likely IS a regional thing. However, I do
note (with some smugness...:-)) that the American Heritage
dictionary seems to agree with me. This is also what
you'd expect from their report on the etymology of the
word, from the Italian "cavolo" (cabbage), in turn from
the Latin "caulus" or "caulis" ("stem"), plus "flos" (Latin)
later "fiore" (Ital.) or "flor" (Old French), "flower." In other
words, it's a "stem flower," or "cabbage flower."
I guess I'll have to wait until I get home to get out the big
Webster's for the definitive answer...;-)
Bob M.
Bob Myers
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 22:19:02 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> <pai...@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >No, it's a "correct" thing. At least my Webster's claims it is.
Methinks you may be misreading your Webster's.
>
> So what you are saying is, it is correct to say the "i" in cauliflower
> as an short "e" like the "i" in broccoli, instead of the 'I' in the
> word "ick"
>
> When I look on www.dictionary.com the Pronunciation Key for the "i"
> in cauliflower is different than the "i" in broccoli
> My Websters dictionary says the same thing.
Same here. It's apparently supposed to be the "i"
as in "pit" or "if". An "ih" sort of sound, like "ick."
Bob M.
Bob Myers
"sf" <nob...@comcast.com> wrote in message
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> The only person I know of who calls it cawLEEflower is my
> governator. The BIG difference among mere mortals is how to
> pronounce the "au" part. Is it culliflower or calliflower?
> I say culliflower.
American Heritage claims it to be the "aw" sound
as in "paw". Cawl-ih-flower
Again, I'll be checking with Mr. Webster's Big Book
of Lots and Lots of Words later on....;-)
Bob M.
Denise~*
>That's news to me, Denise. I say "ideah", and pronounce "war" with no
>emphasis on the "r". Do you have examples - and what part of England,
>since accents vary a great deal?
When I listen to LedZeppelin! :-)
Okay, Okay, I'll explain.
Robert Plant says "Mama" a lot in the songs, and it comes out "Momar"
The R is very faint, but it's there! I have heard it in other ways
too, but I cannot think of any other examples at the moment.
It's not like adding an R to "Idea", to make "Idear". It's more of an
inflection in the voice that always seems to be there.
Really and for true!
I believe Robert is from Worcester or Worchestire?
Denise, Brian & Wyatt (May 31, 02)
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...
limey
"Denise~*"wrote in message
limey wrote:
>
> >That's news to me, Denise. I say "ideah", and pronounce "war" with no
> >emphasis on the "r". Do you have examples - and what part of England,
> >since accents vary a great deal?
>
> When I listen to LedZeppelin! :-)
Funny!
>
> Okay, Okay, I'll explain.
>
> Robert Plant says "Mama" a lot in the songs, and it comes out "Momar"
> The R is very faint, but it's there! I have heard it in other ways
> too, but I cannot think of any other examples at the moment.
> It's not like adding an R to "Idea", to make "Idear". It's more of an
> inflection in the voice that always seems to be there.
> Really and for true!
>
> I believe Robert is from Worcester or Worchestire?
Denise
>
Maybe it's just Robert? I don't know how he sounds - I'm no authority on
Led Zeppelin. I'm confounded - R's at the ends of words are sounded in the
US, but not in usual BBC-type English pronunciation. It might be a regional
thing, though.
Back to the thread - I'm going to correct mine to coll-uh-flower.
Dora
Dora
Nancy Young
(laughing) It's gotten a lot better since Albertson's has taken over,
but there is still the occasional supermarket moment. Don't get me
started that you can hardly get around the store anymore, they have
so many of those cardboard display things.
So, I'm pulling out of the parking lot when a voice SCREAMS at me,
YOU HAVE TO STOP FOR PEDESTRIANS!!!!!!!! Hello, I saw them, they
were not even out of the door. I'm very careful like that, I saw
they had kids and I know they can run out. I saw, I watched and I
rolled out at maybe 3 miles an hour.
She got THE LOOK. She was more of a pedestrian than that family,
she was closer to the street and that was still like 10 feet from
the street.
nancy
Nancy Young
>
> Nancy Young <qwe...@monmouth.com> tip tapped
> > She got THE LOOK. She was more of a pedestrian than that family,
> > she was closer to the street and that was still like 10 feet from
> > the street.
> And she'll be the first one to mow a pedestrian down when the pedestrian
> has the green light.
(laugh) Wouldn't surprise me. The funny thing is, I worked for
insurance companies for so many years it's not funny, and I am well
aware of how *deadly* parking lots are. Hey, if I am planning to
back up out of a spot, I don't move when I see a family packing up
their car until I know the kidlins are packed away, too.
And this scary employee is screaming at me???
nancy
Paul M. Cook┊
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Don't spy to reply.
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I wish I had a nickel for every time I've seen a huge-assed SUV loaded with
young kids speeding down the freeway at 90 mph with mommy yacking away on
the cell phone. Or watching as mommy barges through a red-light at high
speed no doubt late for junior's softball game or her daughter's play date.
Paul
Nancy Young
> "Nancy Young" <qwe...@monmouth.com> wrote in message
> > She got THE LOOK. She was more of a pedestrian than that family,
> > she was closer to the street and that was still like 10 feet from
> > the street.
> I wish I had a nickel for every time I've seen a huge-assed SUV loaded with
> young kids speeding down the freeway at 90 mph with mommy yacking away on
> the cell phone. Or watching as mommy barges through a red-light at high
> speed no doubt late for junior's softball game or her daughter's play date.
Oh, it's rampant here, and I'm not kidding. It's like giant bullies
flying around. I have no idea why driving an SUV does this to people.
and WHAT IS WITH THE *AMB PHONE??? SHUT UP.
Heaven forbid you see one of those behind you, you're afraid to slow
down, they'll run you over.
nancy
Lynn Gifford
containing syntyhetic testosterone
Lynn from Fargo
zxcvbob
>
> Heaven forbid you see one of those [soccer mom in an SUV] behind you,
> you're afraid to slow down, they'll run you over.
>
> nancy
I don't really have a problem with it. I'm either driving a full size
pickup truck with a huge heavy rear bumper, or in a buick with a bicycle
rack on the trailer hitch. The bicycle rack is made of heavy pipe, and
looks like a scorpion stinger -- it's very intimidating and would do a
number on their radiator. :-)
Bob
Cindy hamilton
> Its a closely guarded secret that SUVs all come with a separate tank
> containing syntyhetic testosterone
Shoot, I thought they came with a compilmentary lobotomy. And you know
nobody can refuse anything that's free!
Cindy Hamilton