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Julie Bove

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Oct 24, 2014, 3:20:16 AM10/24/14
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What do you dock your crackers with? The recipe I've been using says to
use a fork but that's just not cutting it. The holes at the bottom of the
cracker are either closing or nearly closing, probably because the tines of
my fork narrow down at the end. So I ordered this tool:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FFVVDUK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

We'll see. This particular recipe is just 3 cups flour of your choice (I
used All Purpose), 1 cup water, 2 teaspoons sugar, 2 teaspoons salt and 4
Tablespoons olive oil. Recipe says to roll 1/8" thick. I did not do this
since I hate to roll and cut. If I were serving these to guests I would
take the time to do that. Instead, I patted out into circles. I don't
think that matters since I have seen other crackers online made by various
people that look just like what I made. They're not the prettiest but
they'll do just fine for me.

Only problem is that they didn't get as crisp as I'd like, probably because
they didn't dock properly.

tracye...@yahoo.com

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Oct 24, 2014, 4:09:47 AM10/24/14
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On Friday, October 24, 2014 2:20:16 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:

*snip trolling

Oh, for fuck's sake. Really?

Julie Bove

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Oct 24, 2014, 4:26:14 AM10/24/14
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<tracye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Friday, October 24, 2014 2:20:16 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> *snip trolling
>
> Oh, for fuck's sake. Really?

Yeah, whatever other name you normally use here. Really.

sf

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Oct 24, 2014, 12:25:29 PM10/24/14
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Sounds like Joan.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

Brooklyn1

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Oct 24, 2014, 12:42:43 PM10/24/14
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"Julie Bove" wrote:

>What do you dock your crackers with? The recipe I've been using says to
>use a fork but that's just not cutting it. The holes at the bottom of the
>cracker are either closing or nearly closing, probably because the tines of
>my fork narrow down at the end.

Could have gotten an old crappy restaurant fork and filed the points
off the tines... for as often as you plan to bake crackers use a
plastic disposable fork.
I doubt that will work well with crackers, it'll make very random
patterns. I would have made a block of wood the size of a cracker,
drilled holes in a desired pattern, pushed in appropiately sized
stainless steel nails and glued them in with a piece of wood as a
backing cover and handle... there you go, a professional cracker
docking tool. I would have made mine with a spring loaded stripper
plate so it ejected the cracker off the nails. The nail diameter
should be a bit oversize to accomodate the holes closing during
baking... and file/grind the points off.
You can easily find SS nails.
http://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Hardware-Hardware-Fasteners-Nails/Stainless-Steel/N-5yc1vZc2dxZ1z0yg27
Drill holes in the wood slightly smaller than the diameter of the
nails... if you attempt to hammer the nails in you will certainly
split the wood.
Now stand by for the "Julie Bove Lame Dog & Pony Show" featuring
numerous and convoluted lame excuses why she CAN'T.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_and_pony_show

tert in seattle

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Oct 24, 2014, 1:00:04 PM10/24/14
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I can totally see Julie doing this.

Kalmia

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Oct 24, 2014, 1:10:34 PM10/24/14
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Hey Bove - time to call that cracker psychic.

sf

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Oct 24, 2014, 1:55:00 PM10/24/14
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I thought she said she ordered a docking tool. If I did what you're
suggesting, I'd not only need to buy the dowel and more nails than
I'll need for the rest of my life, I'd need to buy the drill, drill
bits and vice + plus a place to install the vice. Why spend all that
time and money to make a tool you can buy for a few $? Not worth it.

Nunya Bidnits

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Oct 24, 2014, 4:07:33 PM10/24/14
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Brooklyn1 <grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I would have

No you wouldn't. Bullshit, as usual. You love to tell people what is wrong
wih what they wrote by claiming what you would have done but have never done
nor will ever do, and lack the ability to do anyway.

Do you have some sort of special boat that floats on bullshit? Otherwise you
would have surely suffocated in it by now.

MartyB

Brooklyn1

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Oct 24, 2014, 5:05:13 PM10/24/14
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Hey, sf, do you have any idea how much it would cost to dock your
behemouth ass... and how many months it would take?
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Julie Bove

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Oct 24, 2014, 6:53:47 PM10/24/14
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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 01:25:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> <tracye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:05af84b2-67fe-4566...@googlegroups.com...
>> > On Friday, October 24, 2014 2:20:16 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > *snip trolling
>> >
>> > Oh, for fuck's sake. Really?
>>
>> Yeah, whatever other name you normally use here. Really.
>
> Sounds like Joan.

That's what I thought too. Joan is probably a guy.

Julie Bove

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Oct 24, 2014, 6:56:33 PM10/24/14
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"Brooklyn1" <grave...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I am not fond of nails after stepping on one! :) I am also not good with
tools such as saws. You would think they would make such a device for
crackers made at home! I wasn't sure if the tool I ordered would work or
not. I have seen people poking individual holes with a piece of spaghetti
or a skewer but that seems like it would take a long time. The fork holes
were kind of random too. Just apparently not big enough. Some of the
crackers were crisp but others were a little chewy, especially in the
middle. I'll still eat them but I would prefer better quality control.

Julie Bove

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Oct 24, 2014, 6:57:19 PM10/24/14
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"tert in seattle" <te...@ftupet.com> wrote in message
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Well, I did recently clean off my work bench...

Julie Bove

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Oct 24, 2014, 6:59:16 PM10/24/14
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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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I would have to do that also. I did own a Yankee push drill some years ago
but as is the case with most all tools I have bought, they seem to go the
way of the wind. Was usually a combination of my dad and husband going off
to do some task and I either never got the tools back or I would eventually
find them outside somewhere, rusty. Husband did buy a drill some years ago
but I have no clue where it is.

Julie Bove

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Oct 24, 2014, 7:00:14 PM10/24/14
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"Brooklyn1" <grave...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I think she should take a plaster cast of it and send it to you. You could
then have it bronzed. You'd like that. Wouldn't you?

Nunya Bidnits

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Oct 24, 2014, 7:10:23 PM10/24/14
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Brooklyn1 <grave...@verizon.net> wrote:

>
> how many months it would take?

Not nearly as long as it would take to drain your infected brain sludge.

tert in seattle

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Oct 24, 2014, 7:40:06 PM10/24/14
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THERE ya go



Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:29:02 AM10/25/14
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In article <7dtk4al7srfk9refa...@4ax.com>,
maybe she could use her sewing machine, but she must remember to remove
the thread first

tracye...@yahoo.com

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Oct 25, 2014, 3:11:48 AM10/25/14
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It's projectile vomit chick. Since 1998. Really. I know that blows what little scrap of mind you have left, but it's projectile vomit chick. You really aren't very good at this, are you?

tracye...@yahoo.com

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Oct 25, 2014, 3:12:43 AM10/25/14
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They split the atom at less cost to humanity...

Julie Bove

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Oct 25, 2014, 4:40:04 AM10/25/14
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<tracye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No. I am not good at sleuthing. I'd rather be cooking.

Nancy2

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Oct 25, 2014, 8:56:59 AM10/25/14
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One can easily make perforated note pads with a sewing machine without thread. I used to do it
Whenever I needed a note pad. I just stapled the top of the papers together, and then stitched it.

N.

Gary

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Oct 25, 2014, 9:57:23 AM10/25/14
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Are you serious, Nancy2? LOL!
You went to all that trouble to make a note pad? No you didn't. Come
on.
So cheap to buy one at any local store. ;)

G.

sf

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Oct 25, 2014, 11:03:02 AM10/25/14
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My thought was, it's just a notepad and you stapled it already - why
sew it too?

Kalmia

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Oct 25, 2014, 11:06:52 AM10/25/14
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Wow - this indicates a new level of frugality. I hope you didn't waste electricity tho - or stitched it by hand?

Did you punch in a cute design? Was this for a personalized gift? Got photos?

Gary

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Oct 25, 2014, 11:32:09 AM10/25/14
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hahaha Looks like it's now "let's pick on Nancy2" time here in RFC
for at least a few posts. We all get pounced on occasionally. This is
what happens when you venture into indian country. ;)

G.

Nunya Bidnits

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Oct 25, 2014, 11:58:11 AM10/25/14
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But you already stapled them together... didn't that work?

Nunya Bidnits

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:00:13 PM10/25/14
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Kalmia <tween...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:56:59 AM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
>> One can easily make perforated note pads with a sewing machine
>> without thread. I used to do it Whenever I needed a note pad. I
>> just stapled the top of the papers together, and then stitched it.
>>
>> N.
>
> Wow - this indicates a new level of frugality. I hope you didn't
> waste electricity tho - or stitched it by hand?
>

Frugality personified: Years ago I worked with a guy who was so cheap that
he would not tear off adding machine tape, but rather rolled it up again
backwards as it came off the roll, and then used the back side as well.

MartyB

dsi1

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:00:27 PM10/25/14
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Another way to make a note pad is to apply Elmer's glue to one edge of a stack of paper and let it dry. I've made thousands of these pads. It's fun!

Nunya Bidnits

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:06:06 PM10/25/14
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Thanks for the heads up, troll. I'll update my killfile immediately.

Gary

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:12:12 PM10/25/14
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My mother sends me letters a couple times a week. She writes on scrap
paper too. Backs of envelopes, backs of receipts, etc. It amuses me.
Just BUY A CHEAP pad of paper for the love of G-d. Trees used for
paper are renewable if you're concerned about the environment.

I buy and *LOVE* the 6-paks of white 5X8" legal pads. 300 sheets for
$1.89 at Walmart.

G.

Gary

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:16:43 PM10/25/14
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No! You've never made thousands of those pads. Probably none. You
haven't even lived long enough to have used thousands of those pads.
hahah You have to buy the paper anyway. Just buy the premade pads of
paper.

Sewing and glueing paper together to make notepads? Give me a break!
;)
This is a funny thread, imo.

G.

Gary

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:22:41 PM10/25/14
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Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>
> tracye...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > It's projectile vomit chick. Since 1998. Really. I know that blows
> > what little scrap of mind you have left, but it's projectile vomit
> > chick. You really aren't very good at this, are you?
>
> Thanks for the heads up, troll. I'll update my killfile immediately.

Why would you do that, Numbnuts Bisquick? PVC is a cool contributor
to this group. I constantly laugh at this "head in sand" killfile
nonsense. What a bunch of babies that can't deal with conflicting
opinions.

G.

dsi1

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:43:16 PM10/25/14
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Well alright... one break coming up! I worked in printshops and bindery areas of printshops. "Padding" was a part of the job. How many pads have you made? Zero? I guess that makes me an expert padder and you not.

http://www.printfinishing.com/padding-knife-half-moon.html

Kalmia

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:15:47 PM10/25/14
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On Saturday, October 25, 2014 12:12:12 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> >
> > Kalmia <tween...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:56:59 AM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
> > >> One can easily make perforated note pads with a sewing machine
> > >> without thread. I used to do it Whenever I needed a note pad. I
> > >> just stapled the top of the papers together, and then stitched it.
> > >>
> > >> N.
> > >
> > > Wow - this indicates a new level of frugality. I hope you didn't
> > > waste electricity tho - or stitched it by hand?
> > >
> >
> > Frugality personified: Years ago I worked with a guy who was so cheap that
> > he would not tear off adding machine tape, but rather rolled it up again
> > backwards as it came off the roll, and then used the back side as well.
>
> My mother sends me letters a couple times a week. She writes on scrap
> paper too. Backs of envelopes,

She hoping to achieve a Gettsyburg level or writing?

I knew a guy who read the paper by streetlight. Plopped his chair close to the window closest to the lamppost. Was also known to eat 3 day old clams.

sf

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:17:24 PM10/25/14
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You actually thinking Sheldon is funny and PVC is a valuable
contributor says more about you than it says about him, Gary.

sf

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:18:41 PM10/25/14
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Got photos? That's a real LOL. :D

sf

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:20:50 PM10/25/14
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:00:07 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> Frugality personified: Years ago I worked with a guy who was so cheap that
> he would not tear off adding machine tape, but rather rolled it up again
> backwards as it came off the roll, and then used the back side as well.
>
He must have come from another time, or have been very poor at one
point in his life. My grandmother, who was born in 1901, used to tell
me that she used both sides of a paper and wrote in the margins after
that. No space on a page was left unused.

sf

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:21:58 PM10/25/14
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Have you ever sent your mother a pack to write you letters on?

Brooklyn1

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:38:23 PM10/25/14
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:58:29 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

I use the blank backs of junk mail... and most actually use very high
quality bond papers... I cut each page in halves or quarters and
staple like 50 sheets together. I also use the blank backs of junk
mail to print my crossword puzzles.

Gary

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:44:48 PM10/25/14
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sf wrote:
>
> > Why would you do that, Numbnuts Bisquick? PVC is a cool contributor
> > to this group. I constantly laugh at this "head in sand" killfile
> > nonsense. What a bunch of babies that can't deal with conflicting
> > opinions.
> >
>
> You actually thinking Sheldon is funny and PVC is a valuable
> contributor says more about you than it says about him, Gary.

Well now you know more about me. I like everyone here including those
two. I know how to laugh at life unlike many here that have forgotten
offbeat humor. I'm in a worldwide group here. Many people and just as
many opinions. I read them all and accept their thoughts. I might not
agree but their opinions are just as valid as my own. And sometimes I
read a different opinion and I will change my own...if the argument
seems valid.

Sheldon speaks for response and he gets it. His constant boob and wide
ass thing is ho-hum to me. When he goes off on an extreme rant though,
I do chuckle. Way more funny than what Sheldon writes though is the
responses he gets from the offended. That's where I laugh. He's
trolling and he wins often.

Again, I say -
> > I constantly laugh at this "head in sand" killfile
> > nonsense. What a bunch of babies that can't deal with conflicting
> > opinions.

Read all opinions. Disagree and argue if you want but don't run away
and hide.

G.

Gary

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:54:26 PM10/25/14
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> I use the blank backs of junk mail... and most actually use very high
> quality bond papers... I cut each page in halves or quarters and
> staple like 50 sheets together. I also use the blank backs of junk
> mail to print my crossword puzzles.

You cheapskate! You spend a fortune on your property and animals and
you do what you wrote above. I'll send you a few pads of paper for
christmas...how's that? ;)
G.

Nancy2

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Oct 25, 2014, 2:12:22 PM10/25/14
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Yes, I did. I had a lot of full size scratch paper, was a stay at home mom at the time, so had lots
of time on my hands. It was a good way to use up scratch paper that was blank on one side.
"Reduce, reuse, recycle."

N.

dsi1

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Oct 25, 2014, 2:42:38 PM10/25/14
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I'm in the process of scanning my records so I have a lot paper I need to get rid of. The OCD Chinese guy that's helping me wants to save that paper to use for scratch but the idea of leaking patient's names out there is a very scary one. Everything needs to go into the shredder. If I could, I'd rather burn it all. Nice paper though! :-)

sf

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Oct 25, 2014, 3:39:11 PM10/25/14
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Everything needs to go into the shredder. If I could, I'd rather burn it all. Nice paper though! :-)

Call a commercial document shredder. The truck rolls up to your house
or place of business and they do it while you watch. Everything is
diced vs old fashioned shredding. Hubby had something like 80 boxes
filled with sensitive information like name, address & social security
numbers that he destroyed using a commercial document shredding
service. It's inexpensive and I bet you'll be able to write it off as
a business expense.

dsi1

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Oct 25, 2014, 3:46:46 PM10/25/14
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On Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:39:11 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <>
That's an interesting idea. I see those trucks in downtown Honolulu, but not in our little town. I'm thinking of having my OCD friend do the job for $100 or so.

sf

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Oct 25, 2014, 4:03:00 PM10/25/14
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:46:39 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Oahu is not a large island, give them a call and see what they have to
say. You could always take it to them. UPS shreds as does Office Max
and more. If they do, I bet there's a commercial shredder near you!

Brooklyn1

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Oct 25, 2014, 5:32:26 PM10/25/14
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Nothing to do with cheapness... I hate waste... and using that junk
mail paper is no more effort than stapling a stack for the
recyclables bin. If I put loose paper in the bin and it's a windy day
I can end up picking paper for miles and hours, that's why I bought
one of those commercial staplers what can staple 75 sheets. And I
have lots of very nice writing paper that I use for fountain pen
letter writing... I use wax seals too, I have a huge collection of wax
and seals. Unfortunately not many write anymore, these days it's all
keyboard... most people can only text/tweet, they can't write, I mean
they literally are unable to write. Schools will soon do away with
teaching penmanship... most kids nowadays can't even print, many can't
read either

Brooklyn1

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Oct 25, 2014, 5:36:43 PM10/25/14
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I shred *after* I use junk mail paper. I have a shredder but mostly I
snip with scissors.

dsi1

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Oct 25, 2014, 6:14:22 PM10/25/14
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I'm ashamed to call a professional for my paltry paper-shredding needs.
If I had 80 boxes of docs, I'd gladly call one of these people. I also
want to give my friend some work cause I'm a nice guy.

dsi1

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Oct 25, 2014, 6:21:27 PM10/25/14
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Due to HIPPA regs, scissors just ain't gonna cut it. :-)

jinx the minx

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Oct 25, 2014, 7:11:35 PM10/25/14
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You've already violated HIPAA, not "HIPPA", by letting your friend see the
documents in the first place.
--
jinx the minx

dsi1

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Oct 25, 2014, 7:18:39 PM10/25/14
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On Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:11:35 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> > On 10/25/2014 11:36 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:12:22 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> >>>> Yes, I did. I had a lot of full size scratch paper, was a stay at
> >>>> home mom at the time, so had lots
> >>>> of time on my hands. It was a good way to use up scratch paper that
> >>>> was blank on one side.
> >>>> "Reduce, reuse, recycle."
> >>>>
> >>>> N.
> >>>
> >>> I'm in the process of scanning my records so I have a lot paper I need
> >>> to get rid of. The OCD Chinese guy that's helping me wants to save that
> >>> paper to use for scratch but the idea of leaking patient's names out
> >>> there is a very scary one. Everything needs to go into the shredder. If
> >>> I could, I'd rather burn it all. Nice paper though! :-)
> >>
> >> I shred *after* I use junk mail paper. I have a shredder but mostly I
> >> snip with scissors.
> >>
> >
> > Due to HIPPA regs, scissors just ain't gonna cut it. :-)
>
> You've already violated HIPAA, not "HIPPA", by letting your friend see the
> documents in the first place.
> --
> jinx the minx

The guy works for me so seeing the patients and records seems to be unavoidable.

Kalmia

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Oct 25, 2014, 7:56:29 PM10/25/14
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After I shred, it goes into a brown paper bag marked OFFICE PAPER, tape it shut, and it is accepted by my recycling outfit. Wow - I"m glad I can at least recyck all those @$#% glossy political flyers. Must've received a dozen today.

sf

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Oct 25, 2014, 8:00:27 PM10/25/14
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:14:23 -1000, dsi1
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> I'm ashamed to call a professional for my paltry paper-shredding needs.
> If I had 80 boxes of docs, I'd gladly call one of these people. I also
> want to give my friend some work cause I'm a nice guy.

No problem, just wanted to give you a heads up that there's an easier
and safe way to dispose of sensitive materials.

Ed Pawlowski

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Oct 25, 2014, 8:39:32 PM10/25/14
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On 10/25/2014 5:32 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>
> Nothing to do with cheapness... I hate waste... and using that junk
> mail paper is no more effort than stapling a stack for the
> recyclables bin.

Every shipment at work has a couple of papers. One is used once and is
in good as new condition. The half with the customer name and
information is shredded, but the other half gets cut up and is used for
note paper. Sure, we buy plenty of pads, but this keeps it to a minimum.

Nancy2

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Oct 25, 2014, 9:37:42 PM10/25/14
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Hey, it wasn't like I made hundreds, or even dozens. No, I didn't do anything "cute" with them. I didn't
use just staples, because they don't tear properly, and you end up with little bits of loose paper. I
probably made a dozen total...just until I used up my supply of extra full size paper. It was back in
the early seventies, and I did it with my machine, and yes, I used electricity. I dare you to measure
how much it took to make a dozen pads, 4 1/4 x 5 1/2. LOL.

I was pretty proud of myself figuring out how to efficiently use that waste paper in a form that was handy.

N.

dsi1

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Oct 26, 2014, 1:12:02 AM10/26/14
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On 10/25/2014 1:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
> After I shred, it goes into a brown paper bag marked OFFICE PAPER, tape it shut, and it is accepted by my recycling outfit. Wow - I"m glad I can at least recyck all those @$#% glossy political flyers. Must've received a dozen today.
>

Call me paranoid but I don't like the idea of handing over shredded docs
over to a third party nor do I like putting the bag of paper in the
dumpster. I'm thinking of getting a big plastic trash can to dump the
paper in. Maybe I can make paper mache bricks out of the stuff. :-)

Ed Pawlowski

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Oct 26, 2014, 1:30:47 AM10/26/14
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OK, you're paranoid. If you have a good crosscut shredder, you can
dispose of it confidently. Only on detective shows on TV is it put
together again.

dsi1

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Oct 26, 2014, 2:41:10 AM10/26/14
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I have a crosscut shredder but is that good enough? Maybe not. I don't
throw away hard drives and there's a drawerful of them in the office
even though I've taken quite a few apart. Beats the hell out of me where
they're coming from. They multiply like rabbits. :-)

sf

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Oct 26, 2014, 7:09:05 AM10/26/14
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Give them a proper burial. You're surrounded by water so you can
always go out in a boat and scatter them at sea. :)


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Oct 26, 2014, 7:12:53 AM10/26/14
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:41:09 -1000, dsi1
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> I have a crosscut shredder but is that good enough? Maybe not. I don't
> throw away hard drives and there's a drawerful of them in the office
> even though I've taken quite a few apart. Beats the hell out of me where
> they're coming from. They multiply like rabbits. :-)

Maybe I didn't hear it here... but I heard somewhere that you can
erase hard drives very effectively by passing a big enough magnet over
them. At the moment, I'm thinking the person was talking about using
a magnet from an old stereo speaker.

Ed Pawlowski

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Oct 26, 2014, 8:55:23 AM10/26/14
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On 10/26/2014 2:41 AM, dsi1 wrote:

>> OK, you're paranoid. If you have a good crosscut shredder, you can
>> dispose of it confidently. Only on detective shows on TV is it put
>> together again.
>
> I have a crosscut shredder but is that good enough? Maybe not. I don't
> throw away hard drives and there's a drawerful of them in the office
> even though I've taken quite a few apart. Beats the hell out of me where
> they're coming from. They multiply like rabbits. :-)

Clean the shredder hopper. Run a page through with something you've
printed so you know what is on it. Now try to assemble it to be
readable. Then mix it in with another 100 sheets. Rest easy.

Gary

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Oct 26, 2014, 10:19:57 AM10/26/14
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And if you're still not easy, mix up all the shedded pieces and put
them into 3 bags and throw them out in different places or times.
G.

dsi1

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On Sunday, October 26, 2014 1:12:53 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:41:09 -1000, dsi1
> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
> > I have a crosscut shredder but is that good enough? Maybe not. I don't
> > throw away hard drives and there's a drawerful of them in the office
> > even though I've taken quite a few apart. Beats the hell out of me where
> > they're coming from. They multiply like rabbits. :-)
>
> Maybe I didn't hear it here... but I heard somewhere that you can
> erase hard drives very effectively by passing a big enough magnet over
> them. At the moment, I'm thinking the person was talking about using
> a magnet from an old stereo speaker.
>

You might be able to wipe out most of the data from a drive that way but you can't be sure that it's 100%. That's pretty much why I disassemble the drives. As an added bonus, you can harvest some nice rare earth magnets.

dsi1

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Oct 26, 2014, 3:12:35 PM10/26/14
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I treat these things as I would if it had my data and credit card info on them - very carefully. I don't think one can be flippant about these things.

dsi1

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Oct 26, 2014, 3:14:44 PM10/26/14
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I'm fairly certain that there's bad people out there that would gladly accept shredded paper or erased drives if there was a chance of mining data out of it.

Brooklyn1

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Brooklyn1

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Oct 26, 2014, 3:56:23 PM10/26/14
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I have a micro crosscut, you'd have better luck unscrambling an egg.
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-12-Sheet-Security-Micro-Cut-Shredder/dp/B00D7H8XB6/ref=sr_1_4?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1414352849&sr=1-4&keywords=paper+shredder
Typical crosscut shredders cut materials into strips (a letter-size
sheet results in about 360 strips). Our micro-cut shredder cuts credit
cards and paper into tiny bits (reducing a sheet to about 2,235
pieces). You gain peace of mind with six times more shredding.


Ophelia

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Oct 26, 2014, 3:59:04 PM10/26/14
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"dsi1" <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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dh puts a hammer through any he has finished with.


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dsi1

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Oct 26, 2014, 4:09:43 PM10/26/14
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Ha ha, sounds pretty good. Will check it out. Thanks.

dsi1

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Oct 26, 2014, 4:16:08 PM10/26/14
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On Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:59:04 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
That's a good start. Then I'd drive up to the highlands in a Montero and bury it like the Romans buried their money before a battle. When it's discovered 2000 years later you can be sure that the data contained within won't amount to a hill of haggis. 😜💀😇
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Ophelia

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lol


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Kalmia

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Oct 26, 2014, 5:10:31 PM10/26/14
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Gee, my shredded material's almost confetti-like. My bag of whole paper has been 'cleansed' of any id or vital info.

What'll you do with these bricks?: ))

Kalmia

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Oct 26, 2014, 5:14:33 PM10/26/14
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On Sunday, October 26, 2014 3:12:35 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I treat these things as I would if it had my data and credit card info on them - very carefully. I don't think one can be flippant about these things.

Or mix in in with used cat litter or food scraps. OR, maybe you can book space on the Mars shot ( or has that left already?) I am not up on the space program, for certain.

Ed Pawlowski

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Oct 26, 2014, 5:14:43 PM10/26/14
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On 10/26/2014 3:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>>
>>> I have a crosscut shredder but is that good enough? Maybe not. I don't
>>> throw away hard drives and there's a drawerful of them in the office
>>> even though I've taken quite a few apart. Beats the hell out of me where
>>> they're coming from. They multiply like rabbits. :-)
>>
>> Clean the shredder hopper. Run a page through with something you've
>> printed so you know what is on it. Now try to assemble it to be
>> readable. Then mix it in with another 100 sheets. Rest easy.
>
> I treat these things as I would if it had my data and credit card info on them - very carefully. I don't think one can be flippant about these things.
>

If you think I'm flippant, then yes, you are paranoid.

Get a micro cut for $70
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-8-Sheet-Micro-Cut-Shredder-Pullout/dp/B008R52BRA/ref=sr_1_3?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1414357921&sr=1-3&keywords=shredder+cross-cut

Take apart the hard drives and scratch the discs

Julie Bove

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Oct 26, 2014, 6:09:23 PM10/26/14
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"Ophelia" <Oph...@Elsinore.invalid> wrote in message
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I did that too but my bro said there was still a way to get data.

Cheryl

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Oct 26, 2014, 8:42:02 PM10/26/14
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On 10/24/2014 6:58 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I would have to do that also. I did own a Yankee push drill some years
> ago but as is the case with most all tools I have bought, they seem to
> go the way of the wind. Was usually a combination of my dad and husband
> going off to do some task and I either never got the tools back or I
> would eventually find them outside somewhere, rusty. Husband did buy a
> drill some years ago but I have no clue where it is.

I've never made crackers but I'll bet you can do it fancy with a tool
like this made for punching images into fondant.

<http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wilton-Fondant-Decorative-Punch-Set-Cake-Decorating-Flowers-Tool-8-PCS-Fondant-Decorative-Cutter-Set/1547284286.html>

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Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

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Oct 26, 2014, 9:27:06 PM10/26/14
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In article <m2jre8$d9m$1...@dont-email.me>,
and your brother does what for a living?

Cheryl

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Oct 26, 2014, 9:55:52 PM10/26/14
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On 10/25/2014 8:56 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> One can easily make perforated note pads with a sewing machine
> without thread. I used to do it Whenever I needed a note pad. I
> just stapled the top of the papers together, and then stitched it.
>
> N.
>
Is that what docking does? Make perforations so you can separate them?

Cheryl

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Oct 26, 2014, 9:57:48 PM10/26/14
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On 10/25/2014 1:55 PM, Gary wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> I use the blank backs of junk mail... and most actually use very high
>> quality bond papers... I cut each page in halves or quarters and
>> staple like 50 sheets together. I also use the blank backs of junk
>> mail to print my crossword puzzles.
>
> You cheapskate! You spend a fortune on your property and animals and
> you do what you wrote above. I'll send you a few pads of paper for
> christmas...how's that? ;)
> G.
>
I know you're just kidding, but wherever you can save a little money to
spend it elsewhere, I'm all for it.

Julie Bove

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Oct 26, 2014, 10:29:28 PM10/26/14
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"Cheryl" <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I doubt it. You need to make holes all the way though. Not just a
decorative design.

Cheryl

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Oct 26, 2014, 10:33:44 PM10/26/14
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On 10/25/2014 6:14 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 10/25/2014 9:39 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Everything needs to go into the shredder. If I could, I'd rather burn
>>> it all. Nice paper though! :-)
>>
>> Call a commercial document shredder. The truck rolls up to your house
>> or place of business and they do it while you watch. Everything is
>> diced vs old fashioned shredding. Hubby had something like 80 boxes
>> filled with sensitive information like name, address & social security
>> numbers that he destroyed using a commercial document shredding
>> service. It's inexpensive and I bet you'll be able to write it off as
>> a business expense.
>>
>
> I'm ashamed to call a professional for my paltry paper-shredding needs.
> If I had 80 boxes of docs, I'd gladly call one of these people. I also
> want to give my friend some work cause I'm a nice guy.

My little town does an annual document shredding event. You drive up,
the take the boxes of docs and shred them. We also have an annual
electronics recycle event, and things like old paint and chemicals where
you drive up and they take all of your old electronics like TVs, old
VCRs, anything electronic. I have a lot in queue to take in but I keep
missing the dates.

Cheryl

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Oct 26, 2014, 10:36:54 PM10/26/14
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I keep all of the old hard drives that I remove from machines that need
to be disposed of. I don't have so many that I am concerned about what
to do with them yet.

Cheryl

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Oct 26, 2014, 10:38:13 PM10/26/14
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Or put a magnet on them.

Julie Bove

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"Cheryl" <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No. It puts perforations in them to let the steam out while baking and to
keep air circulating through them so they remain crisp.

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

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Oct 27, 2014, 12:09:51 AM10/27/14
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In article <m2kedb$qku$1...@dont-email.me>,
how does air circulate thru something that is on a baking sheet

dsi1

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Oct 27, 2014, 4:29:38 AM10/27/14
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On Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:14:43 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/26/2014 3:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>> I have a crosscut shredder but is that good enough? Maybe not. I don't
> >>> throw away hard drives and there's a drawerful of them in the office
> >>> even though I've taken quite a few apart. Beats the hell out of me where
> >>> they're coming from. They multiply like rabbits. :-)
> >>
> >> Clean the shredder hopper. Run a page through with something you've
> >> printed so you know what is on it. Now try to assemble it to be
> >> readable. Then mix it in with another 100 sheets. Rest easy.
> >
> > I treat these things as I would if it had my data and credit card info on them - very carefully. I don't think one can be flippant about these things.
> >
>
> If you think I'm flippant, then yes, you are paranoid.

I'll take being paranoid over being complacent or liable any day of the week! 🙉🙈🙊

dsi1

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Oct 27, 2014, 4:32:40 AM10/27/14
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You put holes in cracker dough (and other thin doughs) to keep them from puffing up and deforming the finished goods.

dsi1

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Oct 27, 2014, 4:33:33 AM10/27/14
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I'm thinking they could be used to clean car windshields. 🎃

dsi1

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Oct 27, 2014, 4:39:58 AM10/27/14
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On Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:33:44 PM UTC-10, Cheryl wrote:
> On 10/25/2014 6:14 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On 10/25/2014 9:39 AM, sf wrote:
> >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Everything needs to go into the shredder. If I could, I'd rather burn
> >>> it all. Nice paper though! :-)
> >>
> >> Call a commercial document shredder. The truck rolls up to your house
> >> or place of business and they do it while you watch. Everything is
> >> diced vs old fashioned shredding. Hubby had something like 80 boxes
> >> filled with sensitive information like name, address & social security
> >> numbers that he destroyed using a commercial document shredding
> >> service. It's inexpensive and I bet you'll be able to write it off as
> >> a business expense.
> >>
> >
> > I'm ashamed to call a professional for my paltry paper-shredding needs.
> > If I had 80 boxes of docs, I'd gladly call one of these people. I also
> > want to give my friend some work cause I'm a nice guy.
>
> My little town does an annual document shredding event. You drive up,
> the take the boxes of docs and shred them. We also have an annual
> electronics recycle event, and things like old paint and chemicals where
> you drive up and they take all of your old electronics like TVs, old
> VCRs, anything electronic. I have a lot in queue to take in but I keep
> missing the dates.
>

Better luck next time. I got a big Vizo TV that's next to the door that's driving me crazy. It's always tough to get rid of big electronics.

dsi1

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Oct 27, 2014, 4:51:05 AM10/27/14
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If I was on the other island, I could just throw the hard drives into the gaping maw of the angry Kilauea volcano. Big TV? No problem! That thing could handle anything you could throw at it.

Julie Bove

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Oct 27, 2014, 5:38:19 AM10/27/14
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"dsi1" <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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That too but I have also read that it keeps the steam out and keeps them
crisp.

jmcquown

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Oct 27, 2014, 7:47:53 AM10/27/14
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On 10/26/2014 10:36 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> I keep all of the old hard drives that I remove from machines that need
> to be disposed of. I don't have so many that I am concerned about what
> to do with them yet.

Run a magnet over them. :)

Jill

Nancy2

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Oct 27, 2014, 8:20:58 AM10/27/14
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Cheryl, docking pokes holes to release air that occurs when baking, so the crackers aren't one big puffy
square. It is like poking holes in a pie crust before blind baking.

N.

Brooklyn1

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Oct 27, 2014, 11:43:59 AM10/27/14
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Some crackers are also perforated for separating.

Brooklyn1

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Oct 27, 2014, 11:46:07 AM10/27/14
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Has nothing to do with air, has to do with water vapor being able to
escape from where it condenses between the cracker and the pan.

Brooklyn1

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On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 01:32:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Sunday, October 26, 2014 3:55:52 PM UTC-10, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 10/25/2014 8:56 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> >
>> > One can easily make perforated note pads with a sewing machine
>> > without thread. I used to do it Whenever I needed a note pad. I
>> > just stapled the top of the papers together, and then stitched it.
>> >
>> > N.
>> >
>> Is that what docking does? Make perforations so you can separate them?
>>
>> --
>> ?.虜.?*灼*?
>> Cheryl
>
>You put holes in cracker dough (and other thin doughs) to keep them from puffing up and deforming the finished goods.


Nope... the holes are to allow water vapor to escape... any puffing is
desireable, adds flakiness... a product of leavening.
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