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Damsel in dis Dress

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Mar 20, 2002, 4:01:36 PM3/20/02
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Well, I knew we had a Penzey's five miles from home, but I had no idea that
we had a Whole Foods until someone (thank you, whoever you were) posted a
link to their site a few days ago. It's two miles past Penzey's, on the
same street. We went to both places today.

It's going to take us several trips to get a complete feel for Whole Foods.
That place is amazing! I'm perfectly willing to drive the 14 mile round-
trip to buy produce there. I don't think I can afford their meat, though.
I made two small purchases, both because of samples that they made
available (lots of samples at this store). A loaf of Pane Paisano bread,
which I'll ask them to slice next time - the bottom crust is almost
impervious to attacks by a kitchen knife; and a wedge of Dutch Uniekaas
cheese. Both are very nice. I hope to start making a weekly pilgrimage to
this store, even if it's just for bread and veggies. I was hoping to find
chana dal in their bulk foods section, but was disappointed. Next time we
go there, I'll look in the packaged foods and see if there is some hidden
away there. I've read about the stuff, but have never found it in any of
the stores where I've shopped.

On the way home, we stopped at Penzey's. Parking for Penzey's is usually a
nightmare, but we pulled into a spot directly in front of the door this
time. I was given a ten dollar gift certificate for Christmas, and spent
that. I got large shaker bottles of Ground Chipotle, Turkish Oregano, and
Fennel Seeds.

It was a Good Afternoon.

Damsel
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Mar 20, 2002, 4:55:52 PM3/20/02
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:01:36 GMT,
Damsel in dis Dress <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote:
[snip great description of foodie outing]

>It was a Good Afternoon.

Sounds like my kind of day, Damsel! :) We may have some spare
time this weekend, so Erik and I may finally make that trip to the
Penzeys in Columbus. While we're there, we usually stop at some cool
bookstores, Trader Joe's and some Japanese groceries. Maybe Wild
Oats, although that place always seems to be hideously crowded.

Ariane

Felice Friese

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Mar 20, 2002, 4:17:09 PM3/20/02
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"Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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> Well, I knew we had a Penzey's five miles from home, but I had no idea
that
> we had a Whole Foods until someone (thank you, whoever you were) posted a
> link to their site a few days ago. It's two miles past Penzey's, on the
> same street. We went to both places today.
>
OK, Damsel, you're really pushing your luck now. Penzey's AND Whole Foods?

Felice


Damsel in dis Dress

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Mar 20, 2002, 6:10:36 PM3/20/02
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"Felice Friese" <fri...@attbi.com> said:

>OK, Damsel, you're really pushing your luck now. Penzey's AND Whole Foods?

Heehee! I didn't know I was this fortunate until just a couple days ago.
Where do you live, and what do you have around you?

MareCat

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Mar 20, 2002, 6:35:08 PM3/20/02
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Felice Friese wrote:

>>
> OK, Damsel, you're really pushing your luck now. Penzey's AND Whole Foods?
>
> Felice


We've got FOUR Whole Foods AND a Penzey's in Houston. ;)

Mary--also rubbing it in


Felice Friese

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Mar 20, 2002, 9:00:13 PM3/20/02
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"Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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> "Felice Friese" <fri...@attbi.com> said:
>
> >OK, Damsel, you're really pushing your luck now. Penzey's AND Whole
Foods?
>
> Heehee! I didn't know I was this fortunate until just a couple days ago.
> Where do you live, and what do you have around you?

Cape Cod. Nothing.

Well, two pretty good supers, a neighborhood Mom&Pop, and a coupla "natural
foods". But I'd sell my firstborn to sniff my way through a Penzey's.
However I do hit the fancy-schmancies in Boston every once in a while.

And how about that Mary? Four-count 'em-four Whole Foods AND a Penzey's, in
Houston.

Felice


Puester

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Mar 20, 2002, 9:56:02 PM3/20/02
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>
> Heehee! I didn't know I was this fortunate until just a couple days ago.
> Where do you live, and what do you have around you?
>
> Damsel


Denver area:
--No Penzey's
--No TJ's
--No IKEA
--few delis
--few bakeries
--few butcher shops
--no fishmongers

A small Whole Foods, a Wild Oats.

Aaarrgh...why am I living here????

gloria p

C Cordell

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Mar 20, 2002, 11:39:16 PM3/20/02
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Gloria P said:

"Aaarrgh...why am I living here????"

There are those who believe that a view of the Rockies makes up for
things like that AND the "brown cloud" AND the traffic.

Have never understood why, myself.

BerryGirl

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Mar 20, 2002, 11:48:40 PM3/20/02
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In article <rbth9ug8dgl6pdfee...@4ax.com>,

Damsel in dis Dress <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote:


> this store, even if it's just for bread and veggies. I was hoping to find
> chana dal in their bulk foods section, but was disappointed. Next time we
> go there, I'll look in the packaged foods and see if there is some hidden
> away there. I've read about the stuff, but have never found it in any of
> the stores where I've shopped.
>

>

> It was a Good Afternoon.
>
> Damsel

I get my chana dal (and urad dal and pistachio saffron ice cream and
other Indian delights) at Patel's Indian Market 1848 Central Ave NE. May
not be convenient to where you are but definitely worth the trip. They
don't have anything in bulk bins, but everything is reasonably priced.

check it out
h

--
Shopping at Penzey's is like going to a square dance competition and realizing
you forgot your underwear...

And liking it.
www.plinko.net/velvet

Damsel in dis Dress

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Mar 21, 2002, 1:51:28 AM3/21/02
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BerryGirl <Be...@plinko.net> said:

>I get my chana dal (and urad dal and pistachio saffron ice cream and
>other Indian delights) at Patel's Indian Market 1848 Central Ave NE. May
>not be convenient to where you are but definitely worth the trip. They
>don't have anything in bulk bins, but everything is reasonably priced.

Thanks, Heather. We'll sure try to find it!

Carol, lost in Minneapolis

MareCat

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Mar 21, 2002, 8:55:05 AM3/21/02
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Felice Friese wrote:

>
> And how about that Mary? Four-count 'em-four Whole Foods AND a Penzey's, in
> Houston.
>
> Felice


Yeah, but no TJs here in Texas. :(

Mary

Melba's Jammin'

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Mar 21, 2002, 9:47:17 AM3/21/02
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In article <hk0j9uka4jm3p4ep9...@4ax.com>, Damsel in dis
Dress <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote:

> BerryGirl <Be...@plinko.net> said:
>
> >I get my chana dal (and urad dal and pistachio saffron ice cream and
> >other Indian delights) at Patel's Indian Market 1848 Central Ave NE. May
> >not be convenient to where you are but definitely worth the trip. They
> >don't have anything in bulk bins, but everything is reasonably priced.
>
> Thanks, Heather. We'll sure try to find it!
>
> Carol, lost in Minneapolis

Are you any good with maps, Carol? Serious question -- some folks just
are not. Does freeway driving bother you? If not, Central Ave is the
same as Highway 65 off 694 in Fridley/Columbia Heights. If you got to
694 and went west on it to Hwy 65 then went south, you'd get there with
a minimal number of turns. I-694 is at about60th-70th and Central, I
think. On the way to Patel's, you'd also go past Holy Land deli and
restaurant at Lowry and Central -- great food. If you order one of
their gyro meals, it's enough for two! There might be a more
convenient way for you to hit Central off 94/35W via downtown -- this is
what first came to mind, though.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com>
"Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."

Gar

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Mar 21, 2002, 11:16:11 AM3/21/02
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:01:36 GMT, Damsel in dis Dress
<damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote:

<snip pleasant story>


>
>It was a Good Afternoon.

I'm glad you had a good day Carol. You deserved it with all the crap
you've been through recently.

Gar

Gar

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Mar 21, 2002, 11:26:16 AM3/21/02
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:56:02 GMT, Puester <pue...@worldnet.att.net>
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Gars area.

Penzeys.- BOTH 15-20 minutes
Tj's - 5 minutes
Whole Foods - 5 minutes
IKEA - 20 minutes
Capouto's deli and grocery - 15 minutes
Bobak's sausage co. 30 minutes
Costco- 3 within 20 minutes
Eurofresh - 30 minutes
Mitsuwa Japanese Marketplace - 25 minutes

Too many to continue the list

I know why I like living here.

Gar the braggart

Damsel in dis Dress

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Mar 21, 2002, 12:46:12 PM3/21/02
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Melba's Jammin' <barbsc...@earthlink.net> said:

>Are you any good with maps, Carol? Serious question -- some folks just
>are not. Does freeway driving bother you? If not, Central Ave is the
>same as Highway 65 off 694 in Fridley/Columbia Heights.

Duh ... I should have remembered that. This trip will be a breeze. Thanks
so much, Barb!

Carol

Christine Dabney

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Mar 21, 2002, 3:33:54 PM3/21/02
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:55:05 GMT, MareCat <Nittany_Lio...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Well..we have Whole Foods and TJ's galore around these parts...but no Penzeys...
Go figure..:)

Christine

MareCat

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Mar 21, 2002, 4:23:53 PM3/21/02
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Christine Dabney wrote:

Guess I can't really complain. We do have *lots* of other specialty
stores, as well as a Central Market (which is a treat in itself). We've
got an IKEA also. I just wish we had TJs, too (I always shop there when
I visit in-laws in Sandy Eggo).

Mary


ari...@pepper.eajenkins.earthlink.net

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Mar 21, 2002, 7:36:25 PM3/21/02
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:56:02 GMT, Puester <pue...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
[snip]

>
>Aaarrgh...why am I living here????

*laughs* Okay, I feel better about where I live now.

--Penzeys in Columbus, about 1 1/2 hours away
--Wild Oats in Cincinnati and Columbus
--Trader Joe's in Columbus (D'oh! Found this out only recently)
--Sur La Table in Cincinnati (Ditto the above)
--Jungle Jim's in Cincinnati, yay!
--various Asian groceries

No Costco or Whole Foods, unfortunately. We don't have a
whole lot of variety in Dayton itself, but a lot of stuff within
reasonable driving distance. Not bad for Ohio!

Ariane

MareCat

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Mar 21, 2002, 11:51:14 PM3/21/02
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ari...@pepper.eajenkins.earthlink.net wrote:

Oh yeah...and we have a few Costcos and a couple of Sur La Tables in
Houston...

Mary--who's glad she lives where she lives (despite the summers)


MH

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"Felice Friese" <fri...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:bk5i9ukfulrs2brl2...@4ax.com...
> > "Felice Friese" <fri...@attbi.com> said:
> >
> > >OK, Damsel, you're really pushing your luck now. Penzey's AND Whole
> Foods?
> >
> > Heehee! I didn't know I was this fortunate until just a couple days
ago.
> > Where do you live, and what do you have around you?
>
> Cape Cod. Nothing.
>
Yes, but you live at Cape Cod!!! I think I wouldn't trade if I were you. : )


Dan Daley

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Mar 22, 2002, 10:03:26 AM3/22/02
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In article <rbth9ug8dgl6pdfee...@4ax.com>, Damsel in dis Dress <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote:
>Well, I knew we had a Penzey's five miles from home, but I had no idea that
>we had a Whole Foods until someone (thank you, whoever you were) posted a
>link to their site a few days ago. It's two miles past Penzey's, on the
>same street. We went to both places today.
<snip>

Be careful or you can overspend unnecessarily at Whole Foods. Their produce
section contains a LOT of conventionally grown veggies & fruit that are
basically the same thing as at your chain grocer. Except WF charges a lot
more.

After paying 2 or 3 times more for conventional stuff I began shopping WF
first and getting all the organic I can from my list and stopping off at the
local produce for the rest of it.

DD

PENMART01

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Mar 22, 2002, 1:58:52 PM3/22/02
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Dan Daley writes:

>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>>Well, I knew we had a Penzey's five miles from home, but I had no idea that
>>we had a Whole Foods until someone (thank you, whoever you were) posted a
>>link to their site a few days ago. It's two miles past Penzey's, on the
>>same street. We went to both places today.
><snip>
>

>After paying 2 or 3 times more for conventional stuff I began shopping WF
>first and getting all the organic I can from my list and stopping off at the
>local produce for the rest of it.

Oh my!

So how does one decide this organic vs non-organic issue, like how does one
determine how much non-organic food to include in their diet before it cancels
out whatever perceived benefit they've derived by consuming a particular
quantity of so-called organic foods... I mean is there some kind of determinent
tantmount to a pH test... I'd think all what you'd discover is that if yoose
organic food freaks shoved the organ probe up your butts the results would
clearly indicate that yoose is all full of self-deception and that your
excrement is all bullshit.


Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

Damsel in dis Dress

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d-d...@springmail.com (Dan Daley) said:

>Be careful or you can overspend unnecessarily at Whole Foods. Their
produce
>section contains a LOT of conventionally grown veggies & fruit that are
>basically the same thing as at your chain grocer. Except WF charges a lot
>more.

I've just gotten the same opinion from Gar, on the phone. Although I've
gotta say, their leeks had the most white (useable) portion I've ever seen
on a leek. 'Course, I usually shop at a regular ol' supermarket-type
place, rather than a produce store, which might make a considerable
difference.

Whole Foods does have awfully good bread, though.

Puester

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Felice Friese wrote:
>
> "Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:bk5i9ukfulrs2brl2...@4ax.com...
> > "Felice Friese" <fri...@attbi.com> said:
> >
> > >OK, Damsel, you're really pushing your luck now. Penzey's AND Whole
> Foods?
> >
> > Heehee! I didn't know I was this fortunate until just a couple days ago.
> > Where do you live, and what do you have around you?
>
> Cape Cod. Nothing.
>
>

Felice:

I'm not criticizing you, because I've BTDT as a former
long time N.E. resident. It sounds as though you have
the New England attitude where anything further than a
15 minute drive is "too far" to go for ANYTHING. There's a
Trader Joe's in Needham, if not closer, and a Penzey's in
Norwalk, CT. maybe 3 hrs. away, depending on where you
are on the Cape.

I get to Trader Joe's, if I'm lucky, 3 or 4 times a year
when I'm visiting my daughter in San Diego, 1200 miles
from home. Unless we drive, once every few years, I'm pretty
limited by what I can carry as to what I can bring home.

As far as Penzey's, the CT one is 1800 miles from where I live
and we made it there last summer after being a mail order customer
for a few years. It was worth the trip although that wasn't
the primary reason for going back east.

Penzey's, Ikea, Trader Joe's, King Arthur, and a lobster
dealer would make me very happy anywhere in Colorado they
cared to locate.
gloria p

sd

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Mar 22, 2002, 8:40:42 PM3/22/02
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In article <rbth9ug8dgl6pdfee...@4ax.com>,

Damsel in dis Dress <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote:

> I was hoping to find
> chana dal in their bulk foods section, but was disappointed. Next time we
> go there, I'll look in the packaged foods and see if there is some hidden
> away there. I've read about the stuff, but have never found it in any of
> the stores where I've shopped.

Another place to find chana dal that's likely closer to where you live
is the Mississippi Market co-op at Dale and Selby. They carry it in
bulk. They also may have it at their Randolph store, but I don't tend to
shop at that one.

MM carries many of the products Whole Foods carries. They also sell
breads from many of the better bakeries in town and offer an olive bar.
It _is_ a much smaller store, though, than WF.

Damsel in dis Dress

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sd <sd5...@yahoo.com> said:

>Another place to find chana dal that's likely closer to where you live
>is the Mississippi Market co-op at Dale and Selby. They carry it in
>bulk. They also may have it at their Randolph store, but I don't tend to
>shop at that one.

Crash hails from the Randolph area. We'll probably try that location.
Thanks for letting me know it exists!

>MM carries many of the products Whole Foods carries. They also sell
>breads from many of the better bakeries in town and offer an olive bar.
>It _is_ a much smaller store, though, than WF.

Olive bar? Oh my ......

Damsel, drooling into her keyboard

MH

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"Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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> d-d...@springmail.com (Dan Daley) said:
>
> >Be careful or you can overspend unnecessarily at Whole Foods. Their
> produce
> >section contains a LOT of conventionally grown veggies & fruit that are
> >basically the same thing as at your chain grocer. Except WF charges a
lot
> >more.
>
> I've just gotten the same opinion from Gar, on the phone. Although I've
> gotta say, their leeks had the most white (useable) portion I've ever seen
> on a leek. 'Course, I usually shop at a regular ol' supermarket-type
> place, rather than a produce store, which might make a considerable
> difference.
>
> Whole Foods does have awfully good bread, though.

They have some nice things at Whole Foods. Their meat is great, especially
when on sale. And, I know you don't drink, Dams, but they have a great wine
department. And, they have an awesome cheese department!! At least in the
one if San Francisco, they have more goat cheese than any store I've ever
seen, except for maybe Draeger's, which rules the earth.

Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.

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Mar 23, 2002, 2:26:28 AM3/23/02
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>> --Penzeys in Columbus, about 1 1/2 hours away
>> --Wild Oats in Cincinnati and Columbus
>> --Trader Joe's in Columbus (D'oh! Found this out only recently)
>> --Sur La Table in Cincinnati (Ditto the above)
>> --Jungle Jim's in Cincinnati, yay!
>> --various Asian groceries

Ok, now I feel better about where I live too.

We have a Wild Oats, Whole Foods, and Trader Joe's all within 15 minutes, a
Sur La Table within 20-25 minutes, and dozens of Asian and Indian groceries
within minutes of us. And of course the obligatory Williams Sonoma and the
like.

But we don't have a Penzeys. :-(

Anne

I am: Mom, Attorney, Professor, Advocate for Fathers and Against Spam
http://www.annepmitchell.com
Resources on intuitive parenting, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, and more
http://www.intuitiveparenting.org

MH

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"Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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> sd <sd5...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> >Another place to find chana dal that's likely closer to where you live
> >is the Mississippi Market co-op at Dale and Selby. They carry it in
> >bulk. They also may have it at their Randolph store, but I don't tend to
> >shop at that one.
>
> Crash hails from the Randolph area. We'll probably try that location.
> Thanks for letting me know it exists!
>
> >MM carries many of the products Whole Foods carries. They also sell
> >breads from many of the better bakeries in town and offer an olive bar.
> >It _is_ a much smaller store, though, than WF.
>
> Olive bar? Oh my ......

There's a few stores 'round here that have olive bars.

Rainbow Groceries in SF has about 20 different kinds of olives to choose
from....

MH

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"Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel...@bigfoot.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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> sd <sd5...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> >Another place to find chana dal that's likely closer to where you live
> >is the Mississippi Market co-op at Dale and Selby. They carry it in
> >bulk. They also may have it at their Randolph store, but I don't tend to
> >shop at that one.
>
> Crash hails from the Randolph area. We'll probably try that location.
> Thanks for letting me know it exists!
>
> >MM carries many of the products Whole Foods carries. They also sell
> >breads from many of the better bakeries in town and offer an olive bar.
> >It _is_ a much smaller store, though, than WF.
>
> Olive bar? Oh my ......

You know while I think about it, sometimes the foods available in the US
have everything to do with who migrated here. In Minnesota, I suspect it's
easier for you to get Lutefisk than it would be for me in San Francisco,
where, because of all the Italian immigrants, olives are much more
prevalent. Hey, it's just the throw of the dice. : )

Of course in Denmark, Michael's mom told me that "olives are not for Danes."
: )
Alrighty then.

--
Martha
"I would rather have a fool to make me laugh than experience to make me
sad."
William Shakespeare
from As You Like It

sd

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In article <FPen8.2886$Eb5.2...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"MH" <bast...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> You know while I think about it, sometimes the foods available in the US
> have everything to do with who migrated here. In Minnesota, I suspect it's
> easier for you to get Lutefisk than it would be for me in San Francisco,

Here in Minnesota, you can even get lutefisk "TV dinners"! Olsen Fish in
Minneapolis sells 'em. Lutefisk, mashed potatoes, and peas for color.
Haven't had the nerve to try it yet. But I'm thinking this would be a
better way to try lutefisk (and possibly not like it) than some very
public church supper somewhere.

MH

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Not unless the church gives you shots of akavit before and after eating it.

sd

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"MH" <bast...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Hmm ... haven't yet been to that kind of church. Lutefisk so often seems
to be eaten as a penance -- a reminder that our lives are better than
those of our forebears (who _had_ to eat lutefisk).

Alan Zelt

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* Exported from MasterCook *

Lutefisk Preparation

Recipe By : Alan Zelt
Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Barbeque Scandinavian

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1 Lutefisk
5 sticks firewood
1 quart gasoline
1 750 ml Finlandia -- poured over ice

Pour a glass of Finlandia(ice or not is optional). Take a healthy drink,
because this preparation is man's work.

Dig a hole in your backyard. About 3ft deep should be sufficient.
To this hole, add the Lutefisk and then the five fireplace logs.

Douse wood with the gasoline. Step back, and ignite the wood. Ensure
that the fire is on high.

Sit back, away from the fire, on a comfortable chair. Take another
drink.

In about 15 minutes, the fire should have died down. Stir the embers,
until there is a consistency throughout of fine soot.

So that you remember this happy occasion, pour a shot of vodka into the
embers, uttter "thank God," and go inside and have a great dinner. Merry
Christmas.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

NOTES : NOTES : After you have bought a lutefisk, you will need a good
method of
preparation. While this preparation method is a bit unconventional, it
will satisfy all unnatural cravings for lutefisk

--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

MH

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Mar 26, 2002, 11:19:38 PM3/26/02
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"sd" <sd5...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Not in Norway, at least with the people I know. They do it in a festive
mood. They have a shot of akavit, and eat the lutefisk and have another
shot, or two, or three....

Sounds like something got lost along the way.

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