Dangerous stove

Thomas

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Jan 11, 2022, 8:14:27 PM1/11/22

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Having a day of nightmares.

Hotpoint stove with self cleaning oven, stovetop burner issue.
It is nat gas with electric click stovetop ignition.
So, it goes like this...
Click click ignition. On high. Turn down to boil for pasta pack of knorrs.
3 c water, 1 milk and 2 tb butter. Big pack.
It boiled over and doused flame out. Glad i was there.
Gas going on full, no flame. Here is the shitty part. To turn off it needs to
go past the ignition click. That is a home wrecker. I was lucky

Dave Smith

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Jan 11, 2022, 11:23:59 PM1/11/22

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:14:23 -0800 (PST), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))
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This is NOT a post by Dave Smith

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 11, 2022, 11:32:58 PM1/11/22

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:14:23 -0800 (PST), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Having a day of nightmares.
>>
>> Hotpoint stove with self cleaning oven, stovetop burner issue.
>> It is nat gas with electric click stovetop ignition.
>> So, it goes like this...
>> Click click ignition. On high. Turn down to boil for pasta pack of knorrs.
>> 3 c water, 1 milk and 2 tb butter. Big pack.
>> It boiled over and doused flame out. Glad i was there.
>> Gas going on full, no flame. Here is the shitty part. To turn off it needs to
>> go past the ignition click. That is a home wrecker. I was lucky

Did you get a flash of flame? I can see how it would be a potential
disaster if you were not there.

Sqwertz

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Jan 11, 2022, 11:44:12 PM1/11/22

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Myu stove is the same way. And if I boil over it's almost always
water+milk (for instant mashed potatoes). If you're afraid to go
past ignition again, just flick the iron cap off the top of the
burner. If that's more than a 1.75 centimeter away from igniter it
won't spark.

Don't remove the aluminum ring because then the spark will connect
with the enamel stovetop (and my stove shorts out and resets when
that happens, sometimes needing unplugged to reboot properly).

-sw

Michael Trew

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Jan 12, 2022, 12:52:09 AM1/12/22

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That's odd... my parents self lighting stove only had the ignition
"clicker" past the highest setting... you turned it all the way up to
ignite, and backed off until you had the flame that you wanted. Turn
all the way down for off.

My oven is far too old. In the winter, I have the pilot light lit for
the burners, but I strike matches in the summer. Oven is match lit only
(no pilot or ignition).

S Viemeister

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Jan 12, 2022, 9:13:53 AM1/12/22

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On 12/01/2022 04:32, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:14:23 -0800 (PST), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>

>>> Hotpoint stove with self cleaning oven, stovetop burner issue.
>>> It is nat gas with electric click stovetop ignition.
>>> So, it goes like this...
>>> Click click ignition. On high. Turn down to boil for pasta pack of
>>> knorrs.
>>> 3 c water, 1 milk and 2 tb butter. Big pack.
>>> It boiled over and doused flame out. Glad i was there.
>>> Gas going on full, no flame. Here is the shitty part. To turn off it
>>> needs to
>>> go past the ignition click. That is a home wrecker. I was lucky
>
> Did you get a flash of flame? I can see how it would be a potential
> disaster if you were not there.

I bought a new stove a couple of years ago, and it came equipped with a
'flame failure device', which would eliminate this sort of problem. If
the flame goes out for ANY reason, gas flow immediately stops.

Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2022, 2:30:23 PM1/12/22

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:44:04 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
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dsi1

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Jan 12, 2022, 3:28:22 PM1/12/22

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That's a very poor design. I was once stuck under a car holding a leaking gas line closed with a thumb while trying to reach a drop light as gas was inching towards the light bulb. It was quite a scary thing to turn a light off while you're lying in a puddle of gasoline. Obviously, things went my way - except for the chemical burns on my back.

GM

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Jan 12, 2022, 4:13:35 PM1/12/22

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Now, with these new electric cars you'd not have that problem...!!!

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/01/how-does-an-electric-car-work.html

Sean requests:

Say you were trying to teach yourself, to a 99th percentile *layperson’s* level, how, say, an electric car actually worked. How would you go about doing that, precisely?

I am not sure exactly how high (or low) a standard that is, but here is what I would do.

1. Watch a few YouTube videos.

2. Read a book or two on how electric cars work, along the way finding an expert or mentor who could answer my questions.

3. If needed, read a more general book about electricity.

4. Try to explain to someone else how electric cars work. Try again.

I would recommend this same general method for many particular questions.

COMMENT:
"In a normal car, when you remove your foot from the gas you mostly coast because the
engine disconnects from the wheels via the torque converter.

In a Tesla, when you remove your foot from the gas a little bit, you are instructing the motor
to deliver less torque than the current speed needs, and so the motor turns into a generator
and it absorbs the excess torque until you slow to the new torque you've indicated.

Thus, braking is performed by requesting a negative torque (relative to current torque) and
acceleration is performed by requesting a positive torque (relative to current torque).

Tesla drivers often don't use the brake at all for a lot of driving. Just the gas pedal..."

COMMENT:
"Start with understanding how a combustion engine car works, by then the answer for electric
will be obvious..."

COMMENT:
"Tyler: I’d like you to get Elon Musk on your podcast and ask him this question (that is, how
do you learn, although I’m sure he’d also be able to answer the “how an electric car works?” question).

I was listening to the Hardcore History Addendum with Musk on engineering and warfare. It’s
shocking how deep his knowledge of, for example, the pros and cons of WWII fighter planes is.
And his knowledge of the Napoleonic Wars. And Roman technology.

He’s obviously extremely smart and an unusual personality. But he must have some sort of
approach to learning that we could all learn from..."

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itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jan 12, 2022, 7:16:11 PM1/12/22

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I'm guessing your pot was too small if it boiled over.

Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2022, 7:18:38 PM1/12/22

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If your pot's too small, you've put too much into it.

Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2022, 7:20:49 PM1/12/22

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On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:16:08 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Thomas

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Jan 12, 2022, 8:27:44 PM1/12/22

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3 qt pot, 3 cup liquid plus butter.

Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2022, 9:07:39 PM1/12/22

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On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:27:40 -0800 (PST), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

This is not my frogger.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Jan 12, 2022, 9:17:46 PM1/12/22

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On 2022-01-12, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> That's a very poor design. I was once stuck under a car holding a leaking gas line closed with a thumb while trying to reach a drop light as gas was inching towards the light bulb. It was quite a scary thing to turn a light off while you're lying in a puddle of gasoline. Obviously, things went my way - except for the chemical burns on my back.

And more importantly, you learned something!

dsi1

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Jan 12, 2022, 9:24:29 PM1/12/22

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Indeed I did - keep a pencil handy whenever you disconnect a fuel line.

Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2022, 9:51:43 PM1/12/22

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On 13 Jan 2022 02:17:38 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

This is NOT my frogger.

Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2022, 9:51:56 PM1/12/22

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Gary

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Jan 13, 2022, 7:00:43 AM1/13/22

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Years ago, my largest pot was 5 quart and always up to the rim.
So I bought an 8 quart pot thinking I would have room at the top.
Nah...I just filled up the larger pot to the rim. lol

Dave Smith

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Jan 13, 2022, 12:04:05 PM1/13/22

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I once bought a 6 TB external hard disk because my existing disk was
full. Now the new one's also full.

Dave Smith

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Jan 13, 2022, 12:33:46 PM1/13/22

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Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

Dave Smith

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Jan 13, 2022, 12:42:29 PM1/13/22

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 07:01:19 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Michael Trew

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Jan 13, 2022, 2:42:21 PM1/13/22

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You need 100 gallon steam kettles like Popeye ;)

Gary

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Jan 14, 2022, 5:43:42 AM1/14/22

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Bruce Smith wrote:

> Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Years ago, my largest pot was 5 quart and always up to the rim.
>> So I bought an 8 quart pot thinking I would have room at the top.
>> Nah...I just filled up the larger pot to the rim. lol
>>
> I once bought a 6 TB external hard disk because my existing disk was
> full. Now the new one's also full.

You filled a 6 TB hard drive? Wow!
I can only guess that you save many videos.

Dave Smith

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Jan 14, 2022, 6:23:03 AM1/14/22

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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is NOT my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe
:)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 14, 2022, 12:26:54 PM1/14/22

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 05:44:21 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

Yes. Now I try to watch and delete more than I add.

Dave Smith

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Jan 14, 2022, 12:47:42 PM1/14/22

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Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.