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Nancy2

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Mar 7, 2012, 4:19:40 PM3/7/12
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FN already has Restaurant Impossible, so I fail to see the point of
another show about rescuing a restaurant. Irvine's is doing just
fine, and next week, they move it to an earlier spot to give the new
one his spot. They need to develop some new ideas instead of copying
their own.

N,

Chemo the Clown

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Mar 7, 2012, 4:59:11 PM3/7/12
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they've run out of ideas.
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Julie Bove

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Mar 7, 2012, 5:55:56 PM3/7/12
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"Nancy2" <ellor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I think they are running out of ideas.


sf

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Mar 7, 2012, 6:32:14 PM3/7/12
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Robert Irvine didn't invent the "rescue" concept. SPIKE TV has one
called Bar Rescue that I've enjoyed watching for a couple of years.
http://www.spike.com/shows/bar-rescue

The twist on this new show is that it concentrates more on the servers
and their interactions with customers. I'll watch Restaurant Stakeout
with interest the first couple of times and see how it goes. I just
hope the "plot formula" isn't as painfully obvious as it is on RR.
http://blog.foodnetwork.com/fn-dish/2012/02/28/restaurant-stakeout/


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gregz

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Mar 7, 2012, 8:16:28 PM3/7/12
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I go to dels last year for Xmas lunch buffet. Very crowded.
I go to dels this year, 2011 , xmas lunch buffet. Very crowded. I did
notice some improvement, but not alarming. Someone mentioned it was on the
show, saw show.
Again on tonight. Entertaining.

Greg

Mark Thorson

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Mar 7, 2012, 9:32:25 PM3/7/12
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As long as it works, they'll make more. If people
didn't watch them, they wouldn't do that for long.

Dave Smith

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Mar 7, 2012, 9:43:59 PM3/7/12
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Not necessarily. Thanks to the marketing of bundles there are entire
networks that no one watches. Satellite and cable companies pick them up
to add to a bundle. Why pay $4 per month for the food network when you
can get a bundle of 5 channels,.... 4 of which you will never watch.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 7, 2012, 10:59:34 PM3/7/12
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:19:40 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
<ellor...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nothing new, but usually another network does the copy. TV shows have
been copied for decades. Remember in the 50's it was Westerns? Every
networks has a version of 60 Minutes. There was a wave of TV
detectives in the 60's. There are now two or three shows about pawn
shops, American Pickers, auctions, at least two for auto repossession.
Don't forget Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares. He was on BBCA long before
Rest. Impossible.

ViLco

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Mar 8, 2012, 10:23:13 AM3/8/12
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sf wrote:

> Robert Irvine didn't invent the "rescue" concept. SPIKE TV has one
> called Bar Rescue that I've enjoyed watching for a couple of years.
> http://www.spike.com/shows/bar-rescue

Did they rescue bars by putting pretty girls in the staff? It always works



sf

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Mar 8, 2012, 11:16:57 AM3/8/12
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That link has full episodes on it, so you can answer your own
question.

sf

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Mar 8, 2012, 11:19:24 AM3/8/12
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:32:25 -0800, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net>
wrote:
Let's put it this way, I watch them more than I watch cooking
competitions.

sf

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Mar 8, 2012, 11:19:58 AM3/8/12
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 01:16:28 +0000 (UTC), gregz <ze...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Is that woman still getting her massages or is she back to yelling at
the staff?

Nancy2

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Mar 8, 2012, 11:31:53 AM3/8/12
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On Mar 7, 5:32 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:19:40 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
>
> <ellorysg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > FN already has Restaurant Impossible, so I fail to see the point of
> > another show about rescuing a restaurant.  Irvine's is doing just
> > fine, and next week, they move it to an earlier spot to give the new
> > one his spot.  They need to develop some new ideas instead of copying
> > their own.
>
> Robert Irvine didn't invent the "rescue" concept.  SPIKE TV has one
> called Bar Rescue that I've enjoyed watching for a couple of years.http://www.spike.com/shows/bar-rescue
>
> The twist on this new show is that it concentrates more on the servers
> and their interactions with customers.  I'll watch Restaurant Stakeout
> with interest the first couple of times and see how it goes.  I just
> hope the "plot formula" isn't as painfully obvious as it is on RR.http://blog.foodnetwork.com/fn-dish/2012/02/28/restaurant-stakeout/
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Irvine's first iteration was pre-Bar Rescue.

N.

sf

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Mar 8, 2012, 1:14:24 PM3/8/12
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> Irvine's first iteration was pre-Bar Rescue.
>
Are you talking about Dinner Impossible or some other show that I
don't consider the same genre?

Terry Pulliam Burd

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Mar 10, 2012, 3:21:00 PM3/10/12
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:32:14 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> arranged
random neurons and said:

<snip>

>The twist on this new show is that it concentrates more on the servers
>and their interactions with customers.

<snip>

When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
everything tasting?" Last time I looked, my food wasn't tasting
anything.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...Pet Peeve #475

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Kalmia

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Mar 10, 2012, 7:08:33 PM3/10/12
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On Mar 10, 3:21 pm, Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
>
> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
> everything tasting?"

You forgot the 'you guys' part.

Bet 'swimming suit' bugs you too.

gloria p

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Mar 10, 2012, 9:36:16 PM3/10/12
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On 3/10/2012 1:21 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
> everything tasting?" Last time I looked, my food wasn't tasting
> anything.
>


Do you have any suggestions for a server who is checking on whether you
need anything or if something is wrong? (I don't like the tasting
remark either.)

Most of the things they COULD say don't make much more sense:

"How does everything taste?" (With its mouth.)

"Do you have any requests?" (Yes, please go away.)

"Is everything OK?" (Well, my friend here is getting tiresome.)

"Is there anything you require?" (Peace and solitude. Leave us alone.)

gloria p

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sf

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Mar 11, 2012, 1:24:06 AM3/11/12
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:21:00 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
<ntpu...@spambot.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:32:14 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> arranged
> random neurons and said:
>
> <snip>
>
> >The twist on this new show is that it concentrates more on the servers
> >and their interactions with customers.
>
> <snip>
>
> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
> everything tasting?" Last time I looked, my food wasn't tasting
> anything.
>
When a server says something stupid like that, you can bet the house
that it's part of their "training".

sf

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Mar 11, 2012, 1:28:01 AM3/11/12
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:36:16 -0700, gloria p <gpue...@comcast.net>
wrote:
I don't care how they say it as long as they don't ask me before I've
put the first bite in my mouth or while I'm chewing.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 11, 2012, 8:02:20 AM3/11/12
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:24:06 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

>When a server says something stupid like that, you can bet the house
>that it's part of their "training".

Last week a server asked, "Is everything OK, my friends" We just met
and already she considered us her friend. I wonder if she will send
us a greeting card at Christmas?

Ophelia

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Mar 11, 2012, 8:20:14 AM3/11/12
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:08:33 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:
>
>> On Mar 10, 3:21 pm, Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
>>> everything tasting?"
>>
>> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
>
> Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".

We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly common
... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>

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Ophelia

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Mar 11, 2012, 8:20:46 AM3/11/12
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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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I suppose that might add to the entertainment (for the server) ...

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Ophelia

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Mar 11, 2012, 8:21:49 AM3/11/12
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"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
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.. or better still, a nice gift <g>

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S Viemeister

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Mar 11, 2012, 8:32:58 AM3/11/12
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I've heard Glaswegian waitresses say 'youse', where a NJ waitress would
say 'you guys'.

S Viemeister

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Mar 11, 2012, 8:34:41 AM3/11/12
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I had to call British Telecom's customer service last week - the
representative called me 'my dear friend'.

Janet

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Mar 11, 2012, 8:49:54 AM3/11/12
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In article <9s3kbr...@mid.individual.net>, firs...@lastname.oc.ku
says...
> >
> I've heard Glaswegian waitresses say 'youse', where a NJ waitress would
> say 'you guys'.

Hen, Glaswegian youse, is much older than you guys, more equivalent to
Southern States you-all.

Janet

S Viemeister

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Mar 11, 2012, 8:56:20 AM3/11/12
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Ah kent tha'.

Janet

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Mar 11, 2012, 9:06:57 AM3/11/12
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In article <9s3kf2...@mid.individual.net>, firs...@lastname.oc.ku
says...

> I had to call British Telecom's customer service last week - the
> representative called me 'my dear friend'.

How lovely! I hope they shared their home address so you could drop in
for a coffee or to borrow an onion.

Janet

Ophelia

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Mar 11, 2012, 9:36:52 AM3/11/12
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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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Many say 'youse' :))


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Ophelia

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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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Ugh

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Ophelia

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Mar 11, 2012, 9:39:58 AM3/11/12
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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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Aye an ah hope ye kent het weeeeel !!!


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S Viemeister

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Mar 11, 2012, 10:21:39 AM3/11/12
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I dinnae.

S Viemeister

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Getting an Indian visa takes too long.


Ophelia

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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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Neither dae ah!


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S Viemeister

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On 3/11/2012 10:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote
>> On 3/11/2012 9:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote
>>>> On 3/11/2012 8:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote
>>>>>> Kalmia wrote:
>>>>>>> Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net>
>>>>>>>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
>>>>>>>> everything tasting?"
>>>>>>> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
>>>>>> Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
>>>>> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>
>>>>>
>>>> I've heard Glaswegian waitresses say 'youse', where a NJ waitress
>>>> would say 'you guys'.
>>>
>>> Many say 'youse' :))
>>>
>> I dinnae.
>
> Neither dae ah!
>
If ah wiz tae dae it, ma mither wid flick me wi a damp cloot.

Janet

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Mar 11, 2012, 10:32:23 AM3/11/12
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In article <9s3r8e...@mid.individual.net>, firs...@lastname.oc.ku
says...
Fit like yer maw

Janet

S Viemeister

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Mar 11, 2012, 10:48:06 AM3/11/12
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Maw's deid, jist ower a year now.

Ophelia

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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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Fae beyond?

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S Viemeister

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On 3/11/2012 11:28 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote
>> On 3/11/2012 10:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote
>>>> On 3/11/2012 9:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote
>>>>>> On 3/11/2012 8:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote
>>>>>>>> Kalmia wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net>
>>>>>>>>>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
>>>>>>>>>> everything tasting?"
>>>>>>>>> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
>>>>>>>> Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".
>>>>>>> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
>>>>>>> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>
>>>>>> I've heard Glaswegian waitresses say 'youse', where a NJ waitress
>>>>>> would say 'you guys'.
>>>>> Many say 'youse' :))
>>>> I dinnae.
>>> Neither dae ah!
>>>
>> If ah wiz tae dae it, ma mither wid flick me wi a damp cloot.
>
> Fae beyond?
>
Aye. She's a gey strong soul.

jmcquown

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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Same thing as when they insist on saying, "Hi, my name is ___ and I'll be
your your server." I haven't seen the show but I worked as a server in my
younger days. I hated having to state the obvious. As if they didn't
already know from the uniform and the order ticket(s) I had in my hand.

Jill

Ophelia

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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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.. and she'll be keeping a guid eye on you, girrrl <g>


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sf

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Mar 11, 2012, 12:27:17 PM3/11/12
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Your reaction seems hypersensitive to me and makes me wonder how you
manage to survive on Usenet.

sf

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On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:20:46 -0000, "Ophelia" <Oph...@Elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
I always suppose they time it while you're chewing to avoid listening
to any verbal feedback. They've done what their training requires and
they don't care what the response is. If you don't spit it out and
declare it swill, they're okay with whatever nonverbal reaction you
can muster.

Ophelia

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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Hmmm I see. In that case, I would keep chewing silently and keep a good
stare going at them. Let them wait until you are finished and then you can
reply, if you feel like it! If not, take another bite... I am sure they
will get the message:) But then I can be mean, sometimes:) Heck, don't let
them bully you, girl!!!



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Gary

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Mar 11, 2012, 1:33:12 PM3/11/12
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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> news:1jvyr33l2bwfv$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
> > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:08:33 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:
> >
> >> On Mar 10, 3:21 pm, Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
> >>> everything tasting?"
> >>
> >> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
> >
> > Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".
>
> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here

It's a common thing here in Virginia.

Gary

Gary

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hey! Sheldon always says that? :)

Gary

Gary

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Mar 11, 2012, 1:39:41 PM3/11/12
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I agree. It's just a friendly greeting.
If I was a server, I would say, "How's the food? If you don't like it, BITE
ME....I didn't cook the damn stuff."

Oh ok, I wouldn't really say that.

Gary

Janet

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Mar 11, 2012, 1:42:36 PM3/11/12
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In article <4F5CE210...@att.net>, g.ma...@att.net says...
Glasgow has a big cultural crossover with the Irish, who also say youse.
No doubt the Irish in USA do too.

Janet UK

Ed Pawlowski

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On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:39:41 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:02:20 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:24:06 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >When a server says something stupid like that, you can bet the house
>> > >that it's part of their "training".
>> >
>> > Last week a server asked, "Is everything OK, my friends" We just met
>> > and already she considered us her friend. I wonder if she will send
>> > us a greeting card at Christmas?
>>
>> Your reaction seems hypersensitive to me and makes me wonder how you
>> manage to survive on Usenet
>
>I agree. It's just a friendly greeting.
>
>Gary

Around the fourth time it stuck out as a bit odd. She was a nice
enough person and competent, just that I use a different definition
for friends and acquaintances. She was tipped well anyway.

sf

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On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:11:54 -0400, "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> >
> Same thing as when they insist on saying, "Hi, my name is ___ and I'll be
> your your server." I haven't seen the show but I worked as a server in my
> younger days. I hated having to state the obvious. As if they didn't
> already know from the uniform and the order ticket(s) I had in my hand.
>
Thank you! I don't blame them for it because I know it's a job
requirement. I can read, so I'd know their names if I cared enough to
look. If they aren't wearing name tags and I really, really want to
know - I'll ask. How's that for a novel concept? ;)

The practice that drove me right up the wall was when they wanted
servers to get down to the customers level, so most of those poor
people had to kneel.

Note to Management: They'll be my friend if I return enough times that
they recognize me. Until then, I'm happy with prompt and cordial
service. Just bring me water and a menu ASAP!

sf

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On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:36:57 -0000, "Ophelia" <Oph...@Elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

> Hmmm I see. In that case, I would keep chewing silently and keep a good
> stare going at them. Let them wait until you are finished and then you can
> reply, if you feel like it! If not, take another bite... I am sure they
> will get the message:) But then I can be mean, sometimes:) Heck, don't let
> them bully you, girl!!!

What on earth are you talking about? This sounds like another
cultural chasm between GB and America. Asking is a job requirement
for them, they aren't doing it to pass the time of day. They want to
get back to their job, not hold a conversation. A smile, nod or
thumbs up is sufficient. It's called understanding the position
they're in and being polite to your server.

Ophelia

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> What on earth are you talking about? This sounds like another
> cultural chasm between GB and America. Asking is a job requirement
> for them, they aren't doing it to pass the time of day. They want to
> get back to their job, not hold a conversation. A smile, nod or
> thumbs up is sufficient. It's called understanding the position
> they're in and being polite to your server.

<sigh> then don't moan that they always come to ask as soon as your mouth
is full!!!!!!!!!

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sf

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On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:45:25 -0000, "Ophelia" <Oph...@Elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
Don't be so dense. I *commented* that's what some of them do (I
wasn't moaning or whining - it was just a COMMENT) - the subtext is
THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU, but they're required to ask. It's
part of their JOB. I wasn't being snide or making fun of them as
others in this thread have done, so if you can't tell the difference,
again - it's another example of the cultural chasm between GB and
America.


Ophelia

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<smile>

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BillyZoom

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> > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:20:46 -0000, "Ophelia" <Ophe...@Elsinore.me.uk>
> > wrote:
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How about I come to your job and fuck with you? Would that be cool?
Maybe just take a little extra of your time so you get in trouble.
Your waiter/waitress doesn't give a shit if you're satisfied. They're
fulfilling an obligation and they probably already knew you were a
cunt. In fact, they're probably just asking to see if you can taste
that little sprinkle of feces they served you. The service industry is
full of people who are expert at spotting and fucking with assholes
like you. Bon Apetit!

BillyZoom

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On Mar 11, 5:00 pm, "Ophelia" <Ophe...@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote:
> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:45:25 -0000, "Ophelia" <Ophe...@Elsinore.me.uk>
> > wrote:
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> >> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> >> > What on earth are you talking about?  This sounds like another
> >> > cultural chasm between GB and America.  Asking is a job requirement
> >> > for them, they aren't doing it to pass the time of day.  They want to
> >> > get back to their job, not hold a conversation.  A smile, nod or
> >> > thumbs up is sufficient.  It's called understanding the position
> >> > they're in and being polite to your server.
>
> >> <sigh> then don't moan that they always come to ask  as soon as your
> >> mouth
> >> is full!!!!!!!!!
>
> > Don't be so dense.  I *commented* that's what some of them do (I
> > wasn't moaning or whining - it was just a COMMENT) - the subtext is
> > THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU, but they're required to ask.  It's
> > part of their JOB.  I wasn't being snide or making fun of them as
> > others in this thread have done, so if you can't tell the difference,
> > again - it's another example of the cultural chasm between GB and
> > America.
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> <smile>
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Oh Shit! I't didn't register with me that you're British. That
explains a lot. Repressed, Passive-Aggressive Assholes. Your behavior
probably just passes for normal over there. I remember the first time
someone in England was rude to me (my first day there). It was
confusing, because Americans at least give some verbal cues. Brits are
just snotty with a smile. I guess they can get away with it because
they're such a world power in...<snork>.

Atomic Veteran In Colorado

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U THINK I NEED TO READ THE WHOLE THREAD IN EVERY POST..?
THAT'S A LOT OF SCROLLING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM FOR THE NEXT
REMARK...SHEEESH.!!!!!

~~Wayne~~

sf

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Thanks for trimming.

Leonard Blaisdell

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In article
<9223bc26-22c7-4516...@w29g2000yqw.googlegroups.com>,
BillyZoom <meda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh Shit! I't didn't register with me that you're British. That
> explains a lot. Repressed, Passive-Aggressive Assholes. Your behavior
> probably just passes for normal over there.

Well done debates in Parliament make our congressional squabbles appear
to be from knuckle dragging apes spitting at each other, barely able to
speak at all. I yearn to be able to utter or to be the recipient of a
top of the line English putdown. Not online though! Daniel Hannan would
be able to do the job quickly and efficiently should he show up at my
house.

leo
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Tim May

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On 2012-03-11 12:20:14 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> news:1jvyr33l2bwfv$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:08:33 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 10, 3:21 pm, Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
>>>> everything tasting?"
>>>
>>> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
>>
>> Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".
>
> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>

"Hey, weren't you the guy who sat next to me in chemistry class?"

That should set those "guys" who are female back on their asses.


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Tim May

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On 2012-03-11 12:32:58 +0000, S Viemeister said:

> On 3/11/2012 8:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>> news:1jvyr33l2bwfv$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:08:33 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mar 10, 3:21 pm, Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
>>>>> everything tasting?"
>>>>
>>>> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
>>>
>>> Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".
>>
>> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
>> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>
>>
> I've heard Glaswegian waitresses say 'youse', where a NJ waitress would
> say 'you guys'.

"Youse" or "you all" is vastly preferable to "you guys."

While I've never been a waitress, my usual is "You folks."

Like I said, when I hear "How are you guys doing?," my inclination is
to say something like "Say, aren't you the guy who sat next to me in
history class?"

(Assuming it's a female. And females are the main users of the "You
guys" phrase.)

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Steve Pope

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On 2012-03-11 12:20:14 +0000, Ophelia said:

> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>

That's interesting, at the moment, because my Italian instructor
uses "you guys" as the general-purpose translation of the second
person plural. Her fluency in English was acquired in India.




Steve

Tim May

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A fucking degenerate incompetent. If you trust her English from
something she learned in Ragheadistan, your problem.

(When I talk to a German speaker, as part of my recent effort to brush
up on my German, I sure as hell don't get it from some mongrelized
speaker of German.)

And some others in foreign countries--and in the benighted states--are
probably now learning that the correct usages are:

"Nigga, what up?"

"Dudes, how're they hangin'?" (often said by chicks to other chicks,
or to mixed company)

When women began referring to other women as "dude," long after blacks
began referring to all other blacks as "nigga" and "nigger" and
"niggaz," while also demanding that any use of the "N-word" be
trumpeted all over the bullshitosphere, I realized even more so what a
farce it all is. The nigger is gutterizing himself while calling his
own people niggers. A lot like the way the queer hates it when heteros
use the word queer but then refers to his fellow perverts as Queer
Nation, Queer Studies, "queer history," etc. Fucking degenerates, all.

"Queer Nation demands that Rush Limbaugh apologize for using the word
"queer" to describe persyns who are alternately-sexualled."

As Alice said, "queerer and queerer."

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Ophelia

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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> Don't make me killfile you two. Just *reading* UK accents gives me
> the willies.
>
> :-)

;)

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Ophelia

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"Tim May" <tc...@att.net> wrote in message
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I hear females say 'you guys' to other females here!

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Ophelia

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"Tim May" <tc...@att.net> wrote in message
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> On 2012-03-12 06:49:34 +0000, Steve Pope said:
>
>> On 2012-03-11 12:20:14 +0000, Ophelia said:
>>
>>> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
>>> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>
>>
>> That's interesting, at the moment, because my Italian instructor
>> uses "you guys" as the general-purpose translation of the second
>> person plural. Her fluency in English was acquired in India.
>
> A fucking degenerate incompetent. If you trust her English from something
> she learned in Ragheadistan, your problem.

I have lived in India and I can assure you that they speak very correct
English with no slang. They speak in a way commonly spoken in England in
the mid 20th C.
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Janet

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In article <2012031123404294544-tcmay@attnet>, tc...@att.net says...
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> On 2012-03-11 12:32:58 +0000, S Viemeister said:
>
> > On 3/11/2012 8:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> >> news:1jvyr33l2bwfv$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
> >>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:08:33 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 10, 3:21 pm, Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
> >>>>> everything tasting?"
> >>>>
> >>>> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
> >>>
> >>> Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".
> >>
> >> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
> >> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>
> >>
> > I've heard Glaswegian waitresses say 'youse', where a NJ waitress would
> > say 'you guys'.
>
> "Youse" or "you all" is vastly preferable to "you guys."
>
> While I've never been a waitress, my usual is "You folks."

Not advisable in Glasgow.

Janet

S Viemeister

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On 3/12/2012 5:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Tim May" <tc...@att.net> wrote
>> On 2012-03-11 12:32:58 +0000, S Viemeister said:
>>> On 3/11/2012 8:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:08:33 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:
>>>>>> Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
>>>>>>> everything tasting?"
>>>>>> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
>>>>> Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".
>>>> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
>>>> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>
>>> I've heard Glaswegian waitresses say 'youse', where a NJ waitress
>>> would say 'you guys'.
>> "Youse" or "you all" is vastly preferable to "you guys."
>> While I've never been a waitress, my usual is "You folks."
>>
>> Like I said, when I hear "How are you guys doing?," my inclination is
>> to say something like "Say, aren't you the guy who sat next to me in
>> history class?"
>>
>> (Assuming it's a female. And females are the main users of the "You
>> guys" phrase.)
>
> I hear females say 'you guys' to other females here!
>
Yes, when used in the plural - but I've never heard a single (or
married, for that matter!) female called a 'guy'.

S Viemeister

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On 3/12/2012 7:15 AM, Janet wrote:
> tc...@att.net says...
>> On 2012-03-11 12:32:58 +0000, S Viemeister said:
>>> On 3/11/2012 8:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "Sqwertz"<swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:08:33 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:
>>>>>> Terry Pulliam Burd<ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
>>>>>>> everything tasting?"
>>>>>> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
>>>>> Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".
>>>>
>>>> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
>>>> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us<??????>
>>>>
>>> I've heard Glaswegian waitresses say 'youse', where a NJ waitress would
>>> say 'you guys'.
>>
>> "Youse" or "you all" is vastly preferable to "you guys."
>>
>> While I've never been a waitress, my usual is "You folks."
>
> Not advisable in Glasgow.
>
<Mops coffee from keyboard.>

Ophelia

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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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>> I hear females say 'you guys' to other females here!
>>
> Yes, when used in the plural - but I've never heard a single (or married,
> for that matter!) female called a 'guy'.

True!


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Nancy Young

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On 3/12/2012 5:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> I hear females say 'you guys' to other females here!

Works for me. It's not gender specific where I live. And
I'd way rather be called 'you guys' than 'you gals' ... UGH.

nancy

Ophelia

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"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
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Oh yes!!! But would a female call you ... guy?

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Nancy Young

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Seems like when you want to insult a man, you call him a female in
some way, like being a woman is a bad thing. Pretty insulting.

I don't have a problem being called 'you guys' when there's more
than one of us. You guys want to go out for lunch? What's to
get excited about, it doesn't bother me. If someone called me
a guy, I'd just think that was weird but it wouldn't upset me.

nancy

sf

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:59:55 -0000, "Ophelia" <Oph...@Elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>
> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
> news:4f5dffe2$0$10900$882e...@usenet-news.net...
> > On 3/12/2012 5:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >> I hear females say 'you guys' to other females here!
> >
> > Works for me. It's not gender specific where I live. And
> > I'd way rather be called 'you guys' than 'you gals' ... UGH.
>
> Oh yes!!! But would a female call you ... guy?

Probably not, but females don't go around fist/chest bumping or
slapping each other on the back either.

Nancy Young

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On 3/12/2012 9:59 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote

>> On 3/12/2012 5:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> I hear females say 'you guys' to other females here!
>>
>> Works for me. It's not gender specific where I live. And
>> I'd way rather be called 'you guys' than 'you gals' ... UGH.
>
> Oh yes!!! But would a female call you ... guy?

No, that would be strange, but then calling me gal would
be weird, too. It's more of a plural thing.

nancy
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Ophelia

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"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
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Gotcha:))

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Nancy Young wrote:

>> I hear females say 'you guys' to other females here!
>
>Works for me. It's not gender specific where I live. And
>I'd way rather be called 'you guys' than 'you gals' ... UGH.

That earns you a special mention in the Rush Limbaugh lexicography.


Nancy Young

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I'd rather be called gal than see this clown's name anywhere.

nancy

Ophelia

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"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
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I don't know who he is, but will take your word for it!


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Kalmia

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On Mar 10, 10:36 pm, gloria p <gpues...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 3/10/2012 1:21 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
> > When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
> > everything tasting?" Last time I looked, my food wasn't tasting
> > anything.
>
> Do  you have any suggestions for a server who is checking on whether you
> need anything or if something is wrong?  (I don't like the tasting
> remark either.)
>
> Most of the things they COULD say don't make much more sense:
>
> "How does everything taste?"  (With its mouth.)
>
> "Do you have any requests?"   (Yes, please go away.)
>
> "Is everything OK?"   (Well, my friend here is getting tiresome.)
>
> "Is there anything you require?"  (Peace and solitude. Leave us alone.)
>
> gloria p

I like "Do you need anything?" myself. If chewing, I give the A-OK
sign. Mission accomplished.

gloria p

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On 3/11/2012 7:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
> news:9s3kbr...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 3/11/2012 8:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>>> news:1jvyr33l2bwfv$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>>>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:08:33 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 10, 3:21 pm, Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When did it become de rigueur for servers to inquire, "How is
>>>>>> everything tasting?"
>>>>>
>>>>> You forgot the 'you guys' part.
>>>>
>>>> Amazing how universal that phrase is. Here we add "y'all".
>>>
>>> We don't do the 'y'all' thing here - yet, but 'you guys' is fairly
>>> common ... even our eldest grandaughters says it to us <??????>
>>>
>> I've heard Glaswegian waitresses say 'youse', where a NJ waitress
>> would say 'you guys'.
>
> Many say 'youse' :))



It doesn't make much sense that the plural of "you" is "you".
"Yous" or "youse" makes more grammatical sense.


gloria p

Nunya Bidnits

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Who knows the plural of y'all?


Lou Decruss

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:39:51 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

>Who knows the plural of y'all?
>

hillbillies

Goomba

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On 3/13/12 12:39 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> Who knows the plural of y'all?
>
I do. Down here its "all y'all"


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On 3/12/2012 10:39 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> Who knows the plural of y'all?
>
>


All y'all.

gloria p
originally from MA.

Ophelia

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"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
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> Who knows the plural of y'all?

yez'all?

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BillyZoom

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On Mar 13, 12:39 am, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:
> Who knows the plural of y'all?

These days, "all y'all". Back in the day, "you-uns".
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Common sense and the English language have very little in common,
IMHO. I wonder how many other languages have such a plethora of
homophones, homonyms, homographs and (my personal favorite) hetronyms.
OB: Some dough is rough to knead when you need it fast. <g>

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

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Ophelia

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"Terry Pulliam Burd" <ntpu...@spambot.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:36:57 -0600, gloria p <gpue...@comcast.net>
> arranged random neurons and said:
>
>>On 3/11/2012 7:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>>> Many say 'youse' :))
>>
>>
>>
>>It doesn't make much sense that the plural of "you" is "you".
>>"Yous" or "youse" makes more grammatical sense.
>
> Common sense and the English language have very little in common,
> IMHO. I wonder how many other languages have such a plethora of
> homophones, homonyms, homographs and (my personal favorite) hetronyms.
> OB: Some dough is rough to knead when you need it fast. <g>

<g>


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merryb

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LOL- consider yourself lucky...

Ophelia

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"merryb" <msg...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 12, 11:19 am, "Ophelia" <Ophe...@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
>>
>> news:4f5e38cd$0$13148$882e...@usenet-news.net...
>>
>> > On 3/12/2012 12:20 PM, George M. Middius wrote:
>> >> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> >>>> I hear females say 'you guys' to other females here!
>>
>> >>> Works for me. It's not gender specific where I live. And
>> >>> I'd way rather be called 'you guys' than 'you gals' ... UGH.
>>
>> >> That earns you a special mention in the Rush Limbaugh lexicography.
>>
>> > I'd rather be called gal than see this clown's name anywhere.
>>
>> I don't know who he is, but will take your word for it!
>
> LOL- consider yourself lucky...

Oh I am quite sure if you described him full, I could point to one of ours
not much different:))


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George M. Middius

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Ophelia wrote:

>>> >> That earns you a special mention in the Rush Limbaugh lexicography.
>>>
>>> > I'd rather be called gal than see this clown's name anywhere.
>>>
>>> I don't know who he is, but will take your word for it!
>>
>> LOL- consider yourself lucky...
>
>Oh I am quite sure if you described him full, I could point to one of ours
>not much different:))

Try googling "I hate rush limbaugh". The first couple hits will make
it clear.

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