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Ophelia

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Oct 11, 2016, 7:26:33 AM10/11/16
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dsi1

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Oct 11, 2016, 1:02:37 PM10/11/16
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If they can get autonomous cars to work in the UK, they'll work here. The roads in most of the outlying areas are quite narrow. It's very scary for yanks to drive so close to hedges and the like in their rental cars. What's good is that it fosters cooperation between the drivers sharing the roads. We don't have that spirit in the US because our roads are so wide. Oh yeah, it's every man for himself here! :)

Here's some interesting news from Europe. In this country, there's a lot of folks in this country that don't believe the electric car is a viable concept. These people are called "old coots." :)

http://www.ecowatch.com/germany-bans-combustion-engine-cars-2037788435.html

Ophelia

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Oct 11, 2016, 3:24:00 PM10/11/16
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Old coots, eh? I am saying nothing <g> BTW I have seen charging stations
for electric cars in a couple of our service stations but I don't know how
general they are.

I wonder if the ban on those engines in Germany could be an EU directive?

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dsi1

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Oct 11, 2016, 4:42:30 PM10/11/16
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The EU will probably ban IC engines. The movement to stop the burning of fossil fuels will grow to feverish pitch worldwide and will dictate political and social policy in the future. That's my guess anyway.

The UK will probably go along even if they're not a part of the EU. How is that progressing? It doesn't seem to be moving forward - from the view on this side of the pond. Thanks.

Ed Pawlowski

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Oct 12, 2016, 12:06:51 AM10/12/16
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On 10/11/2016 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> Here's some interesting news from Europe. In this country, there's a lot of folks in this country that don't believe the electric car is a viable concept. These people are called "old coots." :)
>
> http://www.ecowatch.com/germany-bans-combustion-engine-cars-2037788435.html
>


Getting viable, but certainly not cost effective for anyone driving a
distance yet.

Ophelia

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Oct 12, 2016, 4:25:24 AM10/12/16
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The EU will probably ban IC engines. The movement to stop the burning of
fossil fuels will grow to feverish pitch worldwide and will dictate
political and social policy in the future. That's my guess anyway.

The UK will probably go along even if they're not a part of the EU. How is
that progressing? It doesn't seem to be moving forward - from the view on
this side of the pond. Thanks.
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It is going slowly but there is a lot of opposition from many MPs. They are
trying to put a large spoke in the wheel but PM May seems to be standing up
to them. I would be happy to tell you more but not here. Just to say that
it will be put into operation in March after which we will leave in 2
years:)


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Cindy Hamilton

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Oct 12, 2016, 6:42:04 AM10/12/16
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Especially when the heater is in use.

Cindy Hamilton

dsi1

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Oct 12, 2016, 5:12:36 PM10/12/16
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That's merely a technical problem. It will be solved. My guess is that an electric car with advanced batteries will have a longer range than any gas car available today. Get ready for a world that won't be concerned with cubic inches or valve timing or compression ratios. That'll all be relics of a primitive past.

dsi1

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Oct 12, 2016, 5:14:58 PM10/12/16
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God bless you guys! :)

Ophelia

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Oct 13, 2016, 4:53:56 AM10/13/16
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Thank you, we will need it:)



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Cindy Hamilton

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Oct 13, 2016, 6:27:44 AM10/13/16
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Actually, I'm already in that world. I don't care about cubic
inches or any of that other stuff. A car is a tool for moving
me and my stuff (usually groceries) from Point A to Point B.

What I do care about is that it is capable of driving in snow.
Four-wheel drive and weight are my friends there.

Cindy Hamilton

Ophelia

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Oct 13, 2016, 12:32:28 PM10/13/16
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But, will they be able to fly ...?


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dsi1

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Oct 13, 2016, 1:23:45 PM10/13/16
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One has to be a car guy to be concerned about these matters. The current trend is small turbocharged 4 cylinder engines for mid-sized cars. My car has a ridiculously small 1.8L turbo engine in a very heavy body - 3750lbs.

dsi1

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Oct 13, 2016, 1:28:43 PM10/13/16
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Why yes, it will. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buNOLsd7jzA

Ophelia

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Oct 13, 2016, 1:37:49 PM10/13/16
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Heh not far off. Who knew they could go so fast.

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Cindy Hamilton

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Oct 13, 2016, 2:46:09 PM10/13/16
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You're probably right. I got my 2004 Toyota Highlander as a
hand-me-down from my husband. I think it might have a six-cylinder
engine. I vaguely recall him saying that once. He's not a car
guy, either. Now you've got me curious. I think I'll investigate,
just for informational purposes.

Cindy Hamilton

dsi1

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Oct 13, 2016, 3:12:11 PM10/13/16
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I wish somebody would hand-me-down a 2004 Highlander - that's a nice ride. As of yet there are no prospects on the horizon. :)

dsi1

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Oct 13, 2016, 3:13:15 PM10/13/16
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I love electricity. Who the heck wouldn't?

Ophelia

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Oct 13, 2016, 3:30:17 PM10/13/16
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I love electricity. Who the heck wouldn't?

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I did tell you we have some chargers at service stations? When I say
'service stations' I mean those huge car park things on motorways with
cafe's, shops etc.



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johnny smithers

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Oct 13, 2016, 3:31:32 PM10/13/16
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>> Heh not far off. Who knew they could go so fast.
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> I love electricity. Who the heck wouldn't?
>
Yep, electricity is nice. But, your cousin George Jetson had
lots of problems trying to use it at the Spaceley sprockets
company. Even Janie and Elroy were as perplexed as Fred
Flintstone, Until they got to Hiwaii.


Jeßus

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Oct 13, 2016, 4:05:18 PM10/13/16
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:13:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
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>I love electricity. Who the heck wouldn't?

Those on death row?

Ophelia

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Oct 13, 2016, 4:49:29 PM10/13/16
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Sorry, this is what I was meaning when I was talking about electric
vehicles.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/energy-efficiency/business-benefits-electric-vehicles/

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dsi1

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Oct 13, 2016, 6:35:30 PM10/13/16
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Oddly enough, "service stations" in America are places to fill up on petrol or to have your car repaired - what the Brits would call a "garage." What you call service stations would be called "truck stops" on the mainland. We don't call them anything because there is no long distance trucking on this rock.

There are free changing stations in parking lots around the state. Beats the heck how they can give the stuff away since it's around 35 cents a kWh. How great is that!!!

dsi1

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Oct 13, 2016, 6:36:28 PM10/13/16
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No electricity for you! Get out! :)

Bruce

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Oct 13, 2016, 6:44:11 PM10/13/16
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In article <f4ed880c-c54d-4f44...@googlegroups.com>, dsi1
says...

> On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 9:30:17 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:

> > I did tell you we have some chargers at service stations? When I
> > say
> > 'service stations' I mean those huge car park things on motorways with
> > cafe's, shops etc.
> >
> Oddly enough, "service stations" in America are places to fill up on
> petrol

That is also what they are in Australia, but since "service station" is
more than two syllables long -which give flies too much opportunity to
get into your mouth- the term is 'servo' here.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Oct 13, 2016, 11:41:39 PM10/13/16
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In article <f4ed880c-c54d-4f44...@googlegroups.com>,
dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> There are free changing stations in parking lots around the state. Beats the heck how they can
> give the stuff away since it's around 35 cents a kWh. How great is that!!!

My sure bet is that your great price is very highly subsidized. I
personally help pay for your good prices through taxes. Everyday
Hawaiians pay way more. Get it while it's hot.
We all know that electricity doesn't come from "The Great Electric
Cosmic Ball Mother", don't we?
Elon Musk has plugged into the current government philosophy money vein
for a lot of cash. Why can't we plug in for a little? It's all a very
expensive, governmentally fed, subsidized by all of us, illusion folks.

Hell, the government even subsidizes buying electric junk to drive.
2 cents

leo

Ophelia

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Oct 14, 2016, 4:11:46 AM10/14/16
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"dsi1" wrote in message
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Ahh I forgot you have been here:) I don't know what those charging stations
err charge:))


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Cindy Hamilton

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Oct 14, 2016, 6:38:39 AM10/14/16
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On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 3:12:11 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> I wish somebody would hand-me-down a 2004 Highlander - that's a nice ride. As of yet there are no prospects on the horizon. :)

Well, you can't have my husband. Anyway, the next hand-me-down would
be a 2008 FJ Cruiser, which I will decline. It's too big, and he's
picked the last two cars we bought. It's my turn.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Oct 14, 2016, 6:41:35 AM10/14/16
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I've been wondering for years why Aussies always abbreviate that way.
Thanks for educating me.

We also call them garages, particularly when they do not sell gasoline.
In fact, the vast majority of service stations (at least around here)
don't do car repairs anymore. I take my car to an independent garage,
but I used to have my service done at the car dealership.

Cindy Hamilton

Brooklyn1

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Oct 14, 2016, 10:50:40 AM10/14/16
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dsi1 wrote:
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> There are free changing stations in parking lots around the state.

Do you mean like cabanas?


dsi1

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Oct 14, 2016, 1:21:32 PM10/14/16
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That's true. I seen all the Mad Max films so I ought to know. :)

dsi1

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Oct 14, 2016, 1:37:06 PM10/14/16
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On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 5:41:39 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article <f4ed880c-c54d-4f44...@googlegroups.com>,
Since I don't live in Never-never land, I know that somebody's paying for it. Some of it is corporate sponsors and possibly there's some state and/or federal monies involved. I had all the lights in my office replaced with high efficiency hardware and bulbs. I received no bill for it nor did I make an attempt to find out how it was paid for. Persons that are hearing impaired have an option to get a free captioned phone. This is paid by everybody that uses a phone and a charge for this service is in their monthly billing. I think it's about a buck.

dsi1

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Oct 14, 2016, 1:42:56 PM10/14/16
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Seeing as how diesels are so popular in your country, I can only surmise that electric cars will follow suit. Charging might be a problem since few people own a parking area. Again, that's just another technical problem.

dsi1

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Oct 14, 2016, 1:47:32 PM10/14/16
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Okay, you can keep your husband. I remember my dad saying he bought a car for my mom. It was a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda. Yeah right. When I sold it for my mom in the 80's, the guy said "Whoo I forgot what a V8 was like!"

dsi1

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Oct 14, 2016, 1:49:50 PM10/14/16
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Yes, people like to kick back and enjoy tropical drinks while waiting for their car to get up to charge. It's why gasoline is dead. :)

Ophelia

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Oct 15, 2016, 10:06:47 AM10/15/16
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37654584


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cshenk

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Oct 15, 2016, 2:24:14 PM10/15/16
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dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
I had a 1968 (I think) Barracuda. Maybe it was earlier or later (too
many years now to recall). Sweet ride!

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dsi1

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Oct 15, 2016, 2:57:56 PM10/15/16
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We need free charging stations over here. The price of electricity is so high in Hawaii that most of savings of more efficient use of energy is lost. My guess is that the high cost of petrol and diesel makes electric a better deal in the UK.

http://evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=31089

dsi1

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Oct 15, 2016, 3:12:08 PM10/15/16
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I had a 67 Barracuda. It had the cleanest lines of any car of that era. It had a 273 V8 which was pretty tiny at a time when a 350 Chevy V8 was considered a "small block." A 273 cubic inch engine would measure 4.5L which would be a big engine these days. I loved that 273.

http://st.hotrod.com/uploads/sites/21/2014/01/1967-plymouth-barracuda-drivers-side.jpg

S Viemeister

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Oct 15, 2016, 4:34:08 PM10/15/16
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On 10/13/2016 8:29 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> I did tell you we have some chargers at service stations? When I say
> 'service stations' I mean those huge car park things on motorways with
> cafe's, shops etc.
>
There's one not far from me - so that people can drive the North Coast
500 in their electric vehicles.

sf

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Oct 15, 2016, 5:39:15 PM10/15/16
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 11:57:48 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
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I don't own an electric car yet, but I'd go with a Prius because they
don't depend on charging stations.


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Ophelia

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Oct 17, 2016, 1:10:26 PM10/17/16
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Today we travelled down to the farm. We stopped at at service station on
the way down and lo and behold ... there were two electric car charging
units

I have taken pics on my phone and will get them off tomorrow to post (my
phone is quite old and I need to take out the card to access them)

It says on the units that they are powered by wind and sun and I couldn't
see anything about payment! Apparently they are fast chargers and it gives
warnings about handling the chargers when wet etc.

It will be interesting if it is free:))


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